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Title: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 22, 2017, 16:37:48 pm
My pickup requires a new set of tires very soon. I'm off-road somewhat often, but put a lot of miles on it by way of paved roads and interstates. All-terrain is in order here. I've heard Michelin are some of the best. BF Goodrich also has my attention. I need something that will last through a lot of miles but can still get it done in the mud/snow etc. The two I've considered are listed below. Any suggestions or comments on either? Something else that's better? The set I have on now are All-Season Good Year Wrangler.

Michelin LTX AT2 - All-terrain but barely from the looks of it. Should last a long while.

BF Goodrich KO2 - Much more aggressive. I'm not sure if these aren't too much for what I need.

Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: The Dude on June 22, 2017, 18:15:45 pm
The AT2s will be the best for you. If you can find some of the old LTX MS2s, get them. Otherwise the Defender LTXs. The KO2s are good performers, but they aren't going to last very long and are heavy/loud/shitty gas mileage. I guarantee you the AT2s will get you anywhere you want to go.


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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: driver on June 22, 2017, 18:22:00 pm
I used run Bridgestone AT Revos on my Tacoma. I don't like noisy aggressive tread tires. I want quite ride but still have traction in the mud and snow. I was real happy with the Bridgestone but then I got my Tundra I went to my tire guy (a guy I know very well) and asked for the Revos, he said that they were hard to get in my size and would take 3 weeks to get here. He recommended Cooper ATs. They have a more aggressive tread than the Bridgestone and are not noisy and he said the well last as long as the Bridgestone and told me he was on his second set. Since they were about $300 cheaper I went with them, and have been very pleased.

I think they are rated for 50 or 60k miles

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 22, 2017, 18:43:57 pm
I've heard great things about the LTX MS and MS2. The AT2 just seems like it'll be much quieter and more durable than others.

A friend of mine that lives in Fancy Gap with plenty of ice and snow loves his Cooper set. He's on his second set.

A tire man told me earlier that Firestone (owned by Bridgestone) Destination AT is a hell of a tire and will last damn close to the rest.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 22, 2017, 18:57:11 pm
My dad has the Revo. Not sure if it's the original or 2. He never drives much so no real testing with him.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: The Dude on June 22, 2017, 19:25:04 pm
If you are the type that thinks Shakespeare fly rods are just as good as G Loomis, then by all means get the Coopers. If you can tell the difference when you fish those rods and feel that you need the performance of the Winston to get the most out of your fishing experience, then go with the Michelins.
I don't know a lot about the Revos, but Bridgestone typically makes a decent product.


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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 22, 2017, 19:50:48 pm
I've pretty much had Goodyear in one form or another for the last 6-8 sets of tires on my trucks. Funny thing is that everyone I've asked has mentioned something other than Goodyear.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Rhody on June 22, 2017, 22:24:10 pm
2006 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel 4WD. Been running Firestone AT's for about 40k right now, best tires I have run for overall performance off road and on road, wear, and low road noise. Not the least noisy set, but not that bad for my truck. Have run 3 sets of Michelins- great mileage, better on fuel economy, lowest noise,over 50k on all sets, but never liked the off road performance, just did not get enough grip with my truck. Had Bridge Revo, complete shit on my truck, 25k at best, wanted them because used to haul a lot and they were supposed to be best, but not on my heavy truck. My tire guy sells a lot of tires and put me on the AT's and will be my next set again.

Tire performance is very dependent on what vehicle you are running them on IMHO.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: wildmttwalleye on June 22, 2017, 23:06:36 pm
Firestone AT's on my taco. Second set. First had over 60,000 miles on em and probably could have handled another 10k.

Quite ride and great grip. The only tire I'll ever buy.

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dougfish on June 23, 2017, 08:26:33 am
Shakespeare fisher here.  ;D

Got a set of Kumho AT on my beater Nissan. Quieter than the all seasons I took off, handles deep snow, gnarly trails/fire roads.
Tread life? I only put about 4-5K on it a year, so I don't know or care.  -0-
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 23, 2017, 09:05:03 am
The feedback is appreciated.

A couple acquaintances of mine have bragged on the Yokohama Geolander AT as well. One said he liked them better than the Firestone AT he had last. Opinions definitely vary.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: bmadd on June 23, 2017, 09:53:34 am
My last set of tires where the Michelin MS2s. Loved um and got damn near 80k miles on um.

Currently running the Firestone ATs and I don't have any complaints about them at all. They do seem to hold small rocks pretty well. After riding with my windows down I'm constantly checking to see if I picked up a nail because I hear so much damn clicking.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Aka on June 23, 2017, 10:38:45 am
I use magnum XL. They are a bit tight but built well.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: wildmttwalleye on June 23, 2017, 10:45:06 am
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 10:38:45 am
I use magnum XL. They are a bit tight but built well.

You don't supposed to put them over your arm.....

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 23, 2017, 10:47:29 am
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 10:38:45 am
I use magnum XL. They are a bit tight but built well.


But what about mileage? Any?
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: The Dude on June 23, 2017, 10:58:53 am
Lol at the Geolanders. Total pieces of junk.


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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 23, 2017, 10:59:40 am
Quote from: The Dude on June 23, 2017, 10:58:53 am
Lol at the Geolanders. Total pieces of junk.


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I'll mark those off the list.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dougfish on June 23, 2017, 11:15:28 am
The Yoko all seasons that come on the Subies suck balls.  :banana072:
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 23, 2017, 11:16:28 am
Pretty sure these are Geolander ATS.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Aka on June 23, 2017, 12:59:50 pm
Quote from: DAYUMson on June 23, 2017, 10:45:06 am
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 10:38:45 am
I use magnum XL. They are a bit tight but built well.

You don't supposed to put them over your arm.....

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You don't supposed, DAYUMson. You don't supposed.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 23, 2017, 13:33:35 pm
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 12:59:50 pm
Quote from: DAYUMson on June 23, 2017, 10:45:06 am
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 10:38:45 am
I use magnum XL. They are a bit tight but built well.

You don't supposed to put them over your arm.....

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You don't supposed, DAYUMson. You don't supposed.


Back off A-a-ron!  He's a scientist! 

I don't suppose he botched high school English, do you?

Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: The Dude on June 23, 2017, 14:09:21 pm
(http://shop.fxnetworks.com/imgcache/product/resized/000/783/344/catl/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-magnum-bulldoze-t-shirt-190_1000.jpg?k=0fbba7a2&pid=783344&s=catl&sn=fx)
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: The Dude on June 23, 2017, 14:11:04 pm
(http://shop.fxnetworks.com/imgcache/product/resized/000/783/344/catl/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-magnum-bulldoze-t-shirt-190_1000.jpg?k=0fbba7a2&pid=783344&s=catl&sn=fx)

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: wildmttwalleye on June 23, 2017, 14:17:49 pm
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 23, 2017, 13:33:35 pm
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 12:59:50 pm
Quote from: DAYUMson on June 23, 2017, 10:45:06 am
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 10:38:45 am
I use magnum XL. They are a bit tight but built well.

You don't supposed to put them over your arm.....

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You don't supposed, DAYUMson. You don't supposed.


Back off A-a-ron!  He's a scientist! 

I don't suppose he botched high school English, do you?

I ain't speak good

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 23, 2017, 14:33:53 pm
There goes this thread to hell. Glad I got some info early on. Carry on.

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Aka on June 23, 2017, 14:34:52 pm
Quote from: DAYUMson on June 23, 2017, 14:17:49 pm
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 23, 2017, 13:33:35 pm
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 12:59:50 pm
Quote from: DAYUMson on June 23, 2017, 10:45:06 am
Quote from: Aka on June 23, 2017, 10:38:45 am
I use magnum XL. They are a bit tight but built well.

You don't supposed to put them over your arm.....

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You don't supposed, DAYUMson. You don't supposed.


Back off A-a-ron!  He's a scientist! 

I don't suppose he botched high school English, do you?

I ain't speak good

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But you sure got a purdy mouth.


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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Big J on June 23, 2017, 14:38:10 pm
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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: wildmttwalleye on June 23, 2017, 14:39:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/iUd3uEY.jpg)

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Native Fisher on June 23, 2017, 21:30:06 pm
I have run 3 different AT tires on my F150 and the best valued one is the Firestone Destination AT. Decent price, quiet, great wet road grip, good in mud and snow.



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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 02, 2017, 20:17:56 pm
Done deal. Now to see how many miles I get out of these. I got almost 47k out of the factory Good Years that came on the truck.

Michelin LTX AT2


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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Beetle on August 03, 2017, 10:39:32 am
He shoots....he scores.   Good call Dee-vo

Goodyear= Good For A Year

Just sayin
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 03, 2017, 10:42:34 am
Yet another Goodyear criticism. I've yet to hear a positive remark.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Phil on August 03, 2017, 11:12:06 am
Lookin' good, Dee-Vo, but they're too pretty. Need to get some mud on 'em....
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 03, 2017, 11:17:20 am
Quote from: Phil on August 03, 2017, 11:12:06 am
Lookin' good, Dee-Vo, but they're too pretty. Need to get some mud on 'em....


Agreed. After getting the new tires put on I had it cleaned up for next week's beach trip. I'm not sure why as it'll be dirty as hell and half-filled with sand when I get back. Meh.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Onslow on August 03, 2017, 12:35:19 pm
Quote from: Native Fisher on June 23, 2017, 21:30:06 pm
I have run 3 different AT tires on my F150 and the best valued one is the Firestone Destination AT. Decent price, quiet, great wet road grip, good in mud and snow.



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Firestone tires are highly underrated.  I have 40k on my work truck tires, and they're only half worn.  Running Transporters HT
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dougfish on August 03, 2017, 12:59:48 pm
I had Goodys Potenza A/S on my wrx and got 82k on them. Good for 2 1/2 years. But they had changed the composition when I went to replace. Dicks.

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dougfish on August 03, 2017, 14:27:18 pm
Bridgestones, technically.

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Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Yallerhammer on August 13, 2017, 14:40:47 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on August 03, 2017, 10:42:34 am
Yet another Goodyear criticism. I've yet to hear a positive remark.


I've always had good experiences with Goodyear Wranglers. Got 60k+ out of the last set I had, and would go like a tank in the snow and mud. They are right proud of them, though.

I bought a set of Kelly Edge ATs a few months ago that I really like so far.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 13, 2017, 18:10:07 pm
Quote from: Yallerhammer on August 13, 2017, 14:40:47 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on August 03, 2017, 10:42:34 am
Yet another Goodyear criticism. I've yet to hear a positive remark.


I've always had good experiences with Goodyear Wranglers. Got 60k+ out of the last set I had, and would go like a tank in the snow and mud. They are right proud of them, though.

I bought a set of Kelly Edge ATs a few months ago that I really like so far.



There are several types of the Wrangler tire. The all-season sets that I've used have been ok - 46k or so on one set. Several years ago I had the all-terrain version that would go damned great in everything you threw at 'em. I don't recall mileage on those.
Title: Re: Rubbers - Gotta Have 'Em....Your Preference?
Post by: Beetle on August 13, 2017, 18:34:54 pm
I've had more than my fair share of tire problems out West and have come  to realize that rentals car tires don't quite cut it out there.    It seems most people out there run 10-12 ply tires.    Is there a trade off with gas mileage from runnning tires that thick?