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Trout Unlimited/Fly Fishing Federation / Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2018 Smith River Study
« Last post by Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 12, 2018, 12:35:02 PM »
If Fin was in the audience, I bet he asked about diet.  Doug was drinking/ingesting, Al was napping, the Boss was well-oiled, over-oiled  ----  so, I may never get a response.
   
The synergy of an impending first grandson, the encircling of conservatives whom all have made a Faustian bargain with our chief, the unwelcomed holiday gobbledygook, and a Mrs. begging for a new floor has dampened my resolve.

Thank you J, for opening the wound even more, with the recap of my now unattainable retirement dreams.  Santa does not think you are naughty or nice.  He just thinks you are a peckerwood.   
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Trout Unlimited/Fly Fishing Federation / Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2018 Smith River Study
« Last post by Big J on December 12, 2018, 12:00:40 PM »
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on August 16, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
I am still searching for those brookie retirement Shangri-Las.  New reaches of familiar streams and new watersheds are paying dividends.   Several small and medium brookies and rainbows lower down made a hot August Sunday morning enjoyable.  Mother Nature’s slice of the Allegheny Highlands is providing numerous settings to hide from the Mrs. when we retire.   
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Trout Unlimited/Fly Fishing Federation / Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2018 Smith River Study
« Last post by Big J on December 12, 2018, 11:50:04 AM »
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 12, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
<Upper SR overall condition of brown trout seems much improved and appears diets are changing.>

  This seems like the most enthralling information.  Did I miss some “diet” stuff in the presentation?  Again I will ask - what did the biologist say – did anyone contribute to or question the changing diet statement?  Are there data, even anecdotal evidence, suggesting the shift in diet of the upper fishes?   Surely someone at the meeting asked, or were you tanked-up or exceedingly somber over the lower river news or both, or during the summary were you dreaming, fantasizing of downriver monster browns, cleaning your sink-tips, and tying lures that could be cast on any ultra-light spinning outfit?

Go fish a brookie stream.
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Trout Unlimited/Fly Fishing Federation / Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2018 Smith River Study
« Last post by Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 12, 2018, 10:58:51 AM »
<Upper SR overall condition of brown trout seems much improved and appears diets are changing.>

  This seems like the most enthralling information.  Did I miss some “diet” stuff in the presentation?  Again I will ask - what did the biologist say – did anyone contribute to or question the changing diet statement?  Are there data, even anecdotal evidence, suggesting the shift in diet of the upper fishes?   Surely someone at the meeting asked, or were you tanked-up or exceedingly somber over the lower river news or both, or during the summary were you dreaming, fantasizing of downriver monster browns, cleaning your sink-tips, and tying lures that could be cast on any ultra-light spinning outfit?
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Trout Unlimited/Fly Fishing Federation / Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2018 Smith River Study
« Last post by Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 11, 2018, 21:43:28 PM »
What about the Cumberland tailwater in KY?  --- over 70 miles.   All trout water?

Yes Ken, give us some figures.
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Trout Unlimited/Fly Fishing Federation / Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2018 Smith River Study
« Last post by Dougfish on December 11, 2018, 21:24:40 PM »
Considerable, Sir. The Delaware is a beast.
But, lets concentrate on one branch. The drainage of each branch of the Delaware probably dwarfs the rivers I listed. (Where is Ken when you need him?)
And lets consider the Smith is in the warmer Southeast.
The Delaware is in the cooler northeast. 
Lets not confuse the drinking water of NYC for the drinking water of Henry County.
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Trout Unlimited/Fly Fishing Federation / Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2018 Smith River Study
« Last post by Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 11, 2018, 21:05:08 PM »
Quote from: Dougfish on December 11, 2018, 18:49:15 PM
The Smith tailwater is an anomaly. 30 miles of trout.
The Jackson, 18 miles.
South Holston, 14 miles.
Watuga, 17 miles.
All have there individual challenges. All artificial.
Is there a longer tailwater trout fishery in the east?


West Branch Delaware with ~ 12 miles, added to ~ 30 miles of East Branch tailwater, then add main Delaware’s ~30 miles ------ over 70 miles of potential artificial trout waters.
Longer if summed, I suppose, and if you consider NY the east.
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Local Trout Streams / Tailwaters / Re: Sunday Stomp
« Last post by Fishbug on December 11, 2018, 19:55:27 PM »
What is this fishing stuff?


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The bar is open.... / Re: Weather Forecast
« Last post by Phil on December 11, 2018, 19:22:19 PM »
"Wish we could find kids down here that are willing to shovel snow for a few extra bucks.... "
Woolly, I agree 100%. They're all inside playing video games and living on their smartphones.
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Trout Unlimited/Fly Fishing Federation / Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2018 Smith River Study
« Last post by Dougfish on December 11, 2018, 18:49:15 PM »
The Smith tailwater is an anomaly. 30 miles of trout.
The Jackson, 18 miles.
South Holston, 14 miles.
Watuga, 17 miles.
All have there individual challenges. All artificial.
Is there a longer tailwater trout fishery in the east?
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