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Title: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 15, 2017, 00:14:49 AM
Spork and me caught a few eyeballs today

(http://i.imgur.com/PasY3Rb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/40VdNYX.jpg)

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I have more pics, but they won't upload for some reason. I even caught a nice channel cat too.




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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Phil on July 15, 2017, 10:42:06 AM
Spinning rod and plastics are way good for smallies. Love it, DAYUMson.
Hey -- what size hooks ya using?
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 15, 2017, 12:18:30 PM


Fuk a walleye tho. 

Damn low performing yankee pop eyed prairie perch.  Whatever you do, don't start talking like yer from Iowa, or some shit.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 15, 2017, 23:00:52 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 15, 2017, 12:18:30 PM


Fuk a walleye tho. 

Damn low performing yankee pop eyed prairie perch.  Whatever you do, don't start talking like yer from Iowa, or some shit.

New River natives bro

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 15, 2017, 23:01:42 PM
Quote from: Phil on July 15, 2017, 10:42:06 AM
Spinning rod and plastics are way good for smallies. Love it, DAYUMson.
Hey -- what size hooks ya using?

1/8 and 1/4 ounce jig heads

#4 hooks for bait


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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 16, 2017, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Onslow on July 15, 2017, 12:18:30 PM


Fuk a walleye tho. 

Damn low performing yankee pop eyed prairie perch.  Whatever you do, don't start talking like yer from Iowa, or some shit.

Smallies are bycatch trash fish. I'd rather catch walleye than eat when I'm hungry.


(http://i.imgur.com/Y6JDIgL.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/Hh1JzS0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vFmXgk6.jpg)

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 16, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 15, 2017, 23:00:52 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 15, 2017, 12:18:30 PM


Fuk a walleye tho. 

Damn low performing yankee pop eyed prairie perch.  Whatever you do, don't start talking like yer from Iowa, or some shit.

New River natives bro

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You might be mistaken on the "native" New Walleye.  Native to the Clinch, Big Sandy, etc. drainage perhaps, but I don't think the Walleye is native to the New River.  Ken also may be smoking his socks when he lumps them as "yankee pop eyed prairie perch".

Best fish I ever tasted were MN Walleye, all you could eat at a mom-and-pop joint in northern MN.

Rock on!
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 16, 2017, 13:36:51 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 16, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 15, 2017, 23:00:52 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 15, 2017, 12:18:30 PM


Fuk a walleye tho. 

Damn low performing yankee pop eyed prairie perch.  Whatever you do, don't start talking like yer from Iowa, or some shit.

New River natives bro

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You might be mistaken on the "native" New Walleye.  Native to the Clinch, Big Sandy, etc. drainage perhaps, but I don't think the Walleye is native to the New River.  Ken also may be smoking his socks when he lumps them as "yankee pop eyed prairie perch".

Best fish I ever tasted were MN Walleye, all you could eat at a mom-and-pop joint in northern MN.

Rock on!



https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251574039_Movements_of_Walleyes_in_Claytor_Lake_and_the_Upper_New_River_Virginia_Indicate_Distinct_Lake_and_River_Populations


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://theses.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-121499-151909/unrestricted/etd.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjiqp3sqo7VAhVDOj4KHaHiDFMQFggdMAA&usg=AFQjCNHj1pHwBHkUy1Qj5-ZymxNkEI-yOA

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brian_Murphy10/publication/251573420_Genetic_marker-assisted_restoration_of_the_presumptive_native_walleye_fishery_in_the_New_River_Virginia_and_West_Virginia/links/0046351f137feb9e8d000000/Genetic-marker-assisted-restoration-of-the-presumptive-native-walleye-fishery-in-the-New-River-Virginia-and-West-Virginia.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjiqp3sqo7VAhVDOj4KHaHiDFMQFggiMAE&usg=AFQjCNEA8eI1UvX0_uGMHpLJlM2J5Ob5pA

George Palmer did his graduate work on the New River walleye and found there exists two genetically distinct stocks: one lotic and one lentic. The lotic stock (or strain) spawns in the river is always bigger.

The genetics of the river strain is more similar to a strain of walleye found in the Rockcastle River in KY than any lake strain known. It is unique in that it has never been found anywhere else except the New. They are restocking New River strain walleyes by testing large female and males via fin clips and protein analysis prior to spawning them at the Buller fish hatchery.

Also, the old timers will tell you about them. They called them "pike".

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 16, 2017, 13:42:40 PM
Smallies are non-native though

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: troutfanatic on July 16, 2017, 17:36:14 PM
QuoteSmallies are bycatch trash fish. I'd rather catch walleye than eat when I'm hungry.


And then you can eat wally, which is the best eating freshwater fish in North America.

Smallmouth taste like shit.

Bonus points for the bold use of spinning rawds.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 17:44:50 PM
That last one sure looks much healthier than those runty runts pulled from Little T, or Linville.

G man, are the Walleyes below Leesville Lake Lotic?  Clearly you are catching resident Walleye on the Old, but the fishery at the Staunton are described as seasonal, implying they are lake fish.  Like most content on the internet, I suspect this former assessment is regurgitated mess from a half wit.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 17:46:05 PM
Quote from: troutfanatic on July 16, 2017, 17:36:14 PM
QuoteSmallies are bycatch trash fish. I'd rather catch walleye than eat when I'm hungry.



Smallmouth taste like shit.




Bullfukingshit!
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: troutfanatic on July 16, 2017, 17:56:06 PM
Okay, maybe yer right, they taste like a used tampon.  :banana072:

you need to go get some of them pop-eyed perch and fry the fuckers in some beer batter. The only thing that might be better from fresh water is striper.

native range extends pretty far south...

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 16, 2017, 19:11:21 PM
The one time I tried yellow perch was at lake eerie. It was good. I chose it over walleye. I wish I would've tried the walleye before leaving.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Phil on July 16, 2017, 19:18:12 PM
Walleye and yellow perch are both super eating. Better than any bass or crappie.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: troutfanatic on July 16, 2017, 19:22:09 PM
Yes and yes, Jason and Phil. Same family of fish, so great similarities in texture and taste. I just hate the bones in yellow perch. I wish I had a good place locally to toss a beetle or hopper pattern at them but when you find them around here, they are uber pune.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 19:29:31 PM
I've just reviewed USGS maps to determine the native ranges of Walleyes, and smallies.  If taken literally, both bass walleye were did not exist upstream of the Sandstone/Brooks Falls area of the New River prior to introduction.  The maps are suspect.  Someone with a clue needs to clear this up.  I thought smallmouth were always ubiquitous in the whole of the New Basin.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 16, 2017, 19:57:51 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 19:29:31 PM
I've just reviewed USGS maps to determine the native ranges of Walleyes, and smallies.  If taken literally, both bass walleye were did not exist upstream of the Sandstone/Brooks Falls area of the New River prior to introduction.  The maps are suspect.  Someone with a clue needs to clear this up.  I always thought smallmouth were always ubiquitous in the whole of the New Basin.


In Freshwater Fishes of Virginia, Jenkins and Burkhead state, "In Virginia the smallmouth bass is native to the Big Sandy and Tennessee drainages and is nonnative to the New and all major Atlantic drainages." 

Roughly the same statement for the Walleye, "In Virginia the Walleye apparently is native only to the Tennessee and Big Sandy drainages."

For what it is worth, Jenkins and Burkhead were meticulous in preparing this manuscript; it took them years and they refused to leave any stone unturned.   
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Beetle on July 16, 2017, 20:16:14 PM
Ken, have you ever looked in that hole by the pumphouse below Primland?    I think it's full of them.  Always wondered if they were stocked or native.

Great report G!   
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 20:19:19 PM
I find it quite amazing Sandstone, and perhaps Brooks Falls, prevented these two species from making any headway upstream for perhaps thousands of years.

http://youtu.be/3p1A7fuXTtI

A closer look.  The last minute of this video is quite amazing.  Rather gnarly line.

http://youtu.be/hm1rNxo55Iw
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 20:24:56 PM
Quote from: Beetle on July 16, 2017, 20:16:14 PM
Ken, have you ever looked in that hole by the pumphouse below Primland?    I think it's full of them.  Always wondered if they were stocked or native.




Rumor has it someone bucket stocked Northern Pike, and Walleye in the puddle up the hill.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: troutfanatic on July 16, 2017, 21:00:57 PM
Freshwater Fishes of Virginia is an excellent reference. I wish there was similar effort in books about the Carolinas. I have yet to find anything similar, unless it is about trout.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 16, 2017, 21:01:33 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 20:19:19 PM
I find it quite amazing Sandstone, and perhaps Brooks Falls, prevented these two species from making any headway upstream for perhaps thousands of years.


Ken, you're killing me!  You deleted some of your classic bloviating, again!

I agree.  Hard to believe they did not make it over those falls, which makes me question the old distribution records.  Perhaps the lower New records are suspect.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 21:29:21 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 16, 2017, 21:01:33 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 20:19:19 PM
I find it quite amazing Sandstone, and perhaps Brooks Falls, prevented these two species from making any headway upstream for perhaps thousands of years.


Ken, you're killing me!  You deleted some of your classic bloviating, again!

I agree.  Hard to believe they did not make it over those falls, which makes me question the old distribution records.  Perhaps the lower New records are suspect.



Yes, Kanawha Falls is a bit larger.  So how did the flatties get up that?
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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: NCsporksman on July 16, 2017, 22:03:10 PM
SCIENCE FIGHT.....Spinning rod is tits, need something longer, weird beard seems to think ice fishing poles get the jerb done...he has much to learn about angling the walleye

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: driver on July 16, 2017, 22:31:04 PM
I actually have loomis 7ft walleye rod. It was the FIL's. So the wife won't let me part with it.

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 16, 2017, 22:50:08 PM
Quote from: driver on July 16, 2017, 22:31:04 PM
I actually have loomis 7ft walleye rod. It was the FIL's. So the wife won't let me part with it.

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Sell me that shit

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 16, 2017, 22:52:09 PM
Quote from: NCsporksman on July 16, 2017, 22:03:10 PM
SCIENCE FIGHT.....Spinning rod is tits, need something longer, weird beard seems to think ice fishing poles get the jerb done...he has much to learn about angling the walleye

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Keep casting upstream and losing my shit.

6' is as long as I go. Vertical jigging boss

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: driver on July 17, 2017, 13:24:23 PM
Btw wtf is fam?

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 17, 2017, 13:41:12 PM
"Your Peoples"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fam
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: JMiller on July 17, 2017, 14:14:17 PM
Nice!
Love jigging up some walleyes.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 17, 2017, 21:36:00 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 16, 2017, 21:01:33 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 16, 2017, 20:19:19 PM
I find it quite amazing Sandstone, and perhaps Brooks Falls, prevented these two species from making any headway upstream for perhaps thousands of years.


Ken, you're killing me!  You deleted some of your classic bloviating, again!

I agree.  Hard to believe they did not make it over those falls, which makes me question the old distribution records.  Perhaps the lower New records are suspect.


I'm having serious doubts about accuracy of the USGS maps after reviewing the their native range graphic for Striped Bass in the Yadkin/Pee Dee basin.  Moravians keep good records, and I've heard from several sources the Moravians documented the presence of striped bass in the Yadkin River near Winston Salem, probably circa 1760s-1790s.  I've also stumbled across some US Government fish harvest docs from the late 1800s that described the fishery in the early to mid 1800s. Stripers were wiped out due to over harvesting by 1850, and the shad were decimated by the 1880s.  Dams were erected after the turn of the century.  It is also worth mentioning that many stripers call rivers home, not the deep blue sea.  I suspect the Cape Fear, Neuse, Pee Dee/Yadkin, Dan/Roanoke, Catawba, Broad, had stripers throughout at one point.

Back to the New basin, the USGS graphic shows smallmouth native to the Greenbrier which is above Sandstone, but none in the Bluestone, or the New in VA.  This defies basic logic.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 18, 2017, 09:33:51 AM
Quote from: Onslow on July 17, 2017, 21:36:00 PM

I'm having serious doubts about accuracy of the USGS maps after reviewing the their native range graphic for Striped Bass in the Yadkin/Pee Dee basin.  Moravians keep good records, and I've heard from several sources the Moravians documented the presence of striped bass in the Yadkin River near Winston Salem, probably circa 1760s-1790s.  I've also stumbled across some US Government fish harvest docs from the late 1800s that described the fishery in the early to mid 1800s. Stripers were wiped out due to over harvesting by 1850, and the shad were decimated by the 1880s.  Dams were erected after the turn of the century.  It is also worth mentioning that many stripers call rivers home, not the deep blue sea.  I suspect the Cape Fear, Neuse, Pee Dee/Yadkin, Dan/Roanoke, Catawba, Broad, had stripers throughout at one point.

Back to the New basin, the USGS graphic shows smallmouth native to the Greenbrier which is above Sandstone, but none in the Bluestone, or the New in VA.  This defies basic logic.


I agree, distribution maps need to be scrutinized and compared to the literature if possible.

Your Moravian anecdote is interesting.  I would question if they could distinguish a striped bass form other fishes in the 1700s, since the striped bass was described from NY State in 1792.  Cool to think about. 
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 09:47:15 AM
spork and WMTsun, since you are river fishing, have you entered the world of bottom bouncers?
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 18, 2017, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 09:47:15 AM
spork and WMTsun, since you are river fishing, have you entered the world of bottom bouncers?

Negative. Too easy to hang them up in the waterbody I fish. Ive tried them before.

Split shot is all I use

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Big J on July 18, 2017, 13:01:55 PM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 18, 2017, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 09:47:15 AM
spork and WMTsun, since you are river fishing, have you entered the world of bottom bouncers?

Negative. Too easy to hang them up in the waterbody I fish. Ive tried them before.

Split shot is all I use

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I figured bottom bouncers was a new hip sexual term.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 13:33:52 PM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 18, 2017, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 09:47:15 AM
spork and WMTsun, since you are river fishing, have you entered the world of bottom bouncers?

Negative. Too easy to hang them up in the waterbody I fish. Ive tried them before.

Split shot is all I use

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buddy, the true vertical jig in a swift current is a thing of beauty.
ive never got one hung up.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 18, 2017, 13:45:42 PM
Quote from: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 13:33:52 PM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 18, 2017, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 09:47:15 AM
spork and WMTsun, since you are river fishing, have you entered the world of bottom bouncers?

Negative. Too easy to hang them up in the waterbody I fish. Ive tried them before.

Split shot is all I use

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buddy, the true vertical jig in a swift current is a thing of beauty.
ive never got one hung up.

You are talking about bottom bouncers like these, correct?

(http://www.luremaking.com/catalogue/images/bottom-bouncer.jpg)

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 13:55:47 PM
yes.  if they are getting hung, you need to go heavier to get your line more vertical.  should be able to feel the type of structure they could hang on and pull it right up and over it before its too late.  Only exception I can think of is maybe a suspended log or tree branch.

then again, if you're having luck with jigs & shot, stick with it.  the sensitivity you get from that set up is great for feeling takes.
I just like the bottom bouncers cause, no matter what the wind or drift is, you've got a way to keep the jig in the strike zone.  We use floating jig heads on them.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 18, 2017, 14:36:26 PM
Quote from: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 13:55:47 PM
yes.  if they are getting hung, you need to go heavier to get your line more vertical.  should be able to feel the type of structure they could hang on and pull it right up and over it before its too late.  Only exception I can think of is maybe a suspended log or tree branch.

then again, if you're having luck with jigs & shot, stick with it.  the sensitivity you get from that set up is great for feeling takes.
I just like the bottom bouncers cause, no matter what the wind or drift is, you've got a way to keep the jig in the strike zone.  We use floating jig heads on them.

Gotcha. We are running 1/4 ounce jigs vertically and casting. Working well so far, but you do lose a lot. You are correct, you can feel a minnow's fart when running this setup.

I like this concept for running worm rigs tho

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Aka on July 18, 2017, 14:47:48 PM
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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Grannyknot on July 18, 2017, 15:47:49 PM
LOL.

Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 24, 2017, 14:29:50 PM
Walleye have always been one of my favorite fish to catch. On spinning rods.

Yallerhammer does not release walleyes. Ever.

And anybody who thinks smallmouth taste like shit either has defective taste buds, has never had one out of cool, clean water, or lacks basic cooking skills. Or left the skin on 'em and tried to fry a filleting fish whole like it was a 6" bream. They ain't walleye or yaller perch, but they are sho-nuff tasty.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: troutfanatic on July 24, 2017, 22:41:04 PM
Only Largemouth taste worse.  :banana072:
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 25, 2017, 08:00:19 AM
Largemouth out of our mountain lakes aren't bad at all, at least early in the year. Not my favorite eating fish, but still taste 10x better than any of that shit fish from the grocery store. I don't see how anybody can eat a ditch tilapia and enjoy it.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 25, 2017, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 25, 2017, 08:00:19 AM
Largemouth out of our mountain lakes aren't bad at all, at least early in the year. Not my favorite eating fish, but still taste 10x better than any of that shit fish from the grocery store. I don't see how anybody can eat a ditch tilapia and enjoy it.


I have to agree with Yaller.  LM from the Dominion recreational ponds up the road taste just fine.  It's been awhile since I've eaten a SM, but if I remember correctly, they tasted OK, kind of like a redeye.  Am I correct? 

Tilapia are ok if you blacken the shit out of them.

In fact, I question the palate credibility of some of you elitists, you pretentious peckerwoods.  I doubt if your palates have ever come close to the flesh of some of these fishes.  You never kill anything.
 
Speaking of killing, the Martin takedown recurve is shooting like a dream since I put the fast-flight string on it.  I am ready to kill bambi and/or his mother.  I might even get into bowfishing. 

More killing – a kid in the neighborhood got one of these recently.  He's having a ball with this spear. 
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: tomato can on July 25, 2017, 10:22:29 AM
we called that a Hawaiian Sling in Hawaii.  and big muddy I have been at some fish fries, eaten red eyes, google eyes, jack, red fin pike, robin, shellcracker, bream, channel cat, mud cat, horse fish, LM bass, SM bass etc.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 25, 2017, 10:32:56 AM
I have eaten largemouth. It was not from a clear lake. It tasted like a warm bowl of Cecil soil. This was not the fish's fault.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: driver on July 25, 2017, 13:19:24 PM
Fam-it
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 25, 2017, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 25, 2017, 08:00:19 AM
Largemouth out of our mountain lakes aren't bad at all, at least early in the year. Not my favorite eating fish, but still taste 10x better than any of that shit fish from the grocery store. I don't see how anybody can eat a ditch tilapia and enjoy it.


I have to agree with Yaller.  LM from the Dominion recreational ponds up the road taste just fine.  It's been awhile since I've eaten a SM, but if I remember correctly, they tasted OK, kind of like a redeye.  Am I correct? 

Tilapia are ok if you blacken the shit out of them.

In fact, I question the palate credibility of some of you elitists, you pretentious peckerwoods.  I doubt if your palates have ever come close to the flesh of some of these fishes.  You never kill anything.
 
Speaking of killing, the Martin takedown recurve is shooting like a dream since I put the fast-flight string on it.  I am ready to kill bambi and/or his mother.  I might even get into bowfishing. 

More killing – a kid in the neighborhood got one of these recently.  He's having a ball with this spear.


Bowfishing is fun. Especially with old homemade wooden bows. It don't matter if dem invasive Asian bitches won't hit your fly when you gotta bow. :D
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 26, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 11:14:32 AM
Bowfishing is fun. Especially with old homemade wooden bows. It don't matter if dem invasive Asian bitches won't hit your fly when you gotta bow. :D


Is that you Yaller?  You made that bow?  What you chewing in that left jaw?  What do you have to smoke in that t pocket? 

I believe I have the same string silencers on my long bow and recurves.  Otter skin?

Good stuff!
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 12:57:44 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 26, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 11:14:32 AM
Bowfishing is fun. Especially with old homemade wooden bows. It don't matter if dem invasive Asian bitches won't hit your fly when you gotta bow. :D


Is that you Yaller?  You made that bow?  What you chewing in that left jaw?  What do you have to smoke in that t pocket? 

I believe I have the same string silencers on my long bow and recurves.  Otter skin?

Good stuff!


Yep. Yep. Red Seal fine cut natural. Winston Lights. Beaver.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Aka on July 26, 2017, 16:12:10 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 12:57:44 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 26, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 11:14:32 AM
Bowfishing is fun. Especially with old homemade wooden bows. It don't matter if dem invasive Asian bitches won't hit your fly when you gotta bow. :D


Is that you Yaller?  You made that bow?  What you chewing in that left jaw?  What do you have to smoke in that t pocket? 

I believe I have the same string silencers on my long bow and recurves.  Otter skin?

Good stuff!


Yep. Yep. Red Seal fine cut natural. Winston Lights. Beaver.


Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait just a fucking minute there. You mean to say that is you in the aforementioned photograph? 
I knew, without hesitation or prior visual reference, that Mud was old as dirt regardless of his pseudo-salt of the earth, hipster interests and that has been verified but I'll be damned if I hadn't figured you were a few more decades advanced in age than what this picture shows.

Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Big J on July 26, 2017, 16:17:56 PM
Quote from: Aka on July 26, 2017, 16:12:10 PM


Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait just a fucking minute there. You mean to say that is you in the aforementioned photograph? 
I knew, without hesitation or prior visual reference, that Mud was old as dirt regardless of his pseudo-salt of the earth, hipster interests and that has been verified but I'll be damned if I hadn't figured you were a few more decades advanced in age than what this picture shows.


If what Aaron is saying is "I thought you were a wrinkly old man", then yes, I thought the same thing as him. 
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 16:41:45 PM
LOL. I never said I was old, just a damn curmudgeon. :) I'm older than many of the folks on here, but younger than some of the ones like Mud, who witnessed the Appalachian Orogeny in person and has a SS# of 3. :D
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Dougfish on July 26, 2017, 18:08:24 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 16:41:45 PM
LOL. I never said I was old, just a damn curmudgeon. :) I'm older than many of the folks on here, but younger than some of the ones like Mud, who witnessed the Appalachian Orogeny in person and has a SS# of 3. :D


Just a pup.  :laugh:   :banana011:
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 26, 2017, 18:16:20 PM
You see, this is a perfect example of why you need to ask questions, and the correct questions, to learn something. 

I learned much about Yaller from his last few posts under this thread, and I respect him even more now ---even for his selection of the Carhartt t-shirt, IF he had removed the fucking label/tag from the pocket!  I wear the same t-shirts but not until I take a knife and remove the Carhartt brand.  He's a curmudgeon whippersnapper, and still has many years to absorb what is acceptable, so some concession is warranted. 
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Big J on July 26, 2017, 19:17:51 PM
 He's a curmudgeon whippersnapper, and still has many years to absorb what is acceptable, so some concession is warranted.
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Says the man who bought a bass boat
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 19:26:57 PM
I don't have enough hipster in me to give a shit one way or the other about labels-I don't think about them as status symbols, and I also don't care if I'm perpetuating commerciality by having one on my shirt. I buy Carhartt t-shirts because they fit right, they're comfortable, and they last a long time.

I'm not an old withered-up fart, but I'm not a whippersnapper either-come October, I will have been annoying the good inhabitants of this planet for half a century. I'm just an unapologetic hillbilly who grew up too fast on a hillside dirt farm. And I also own an aluminum bass boat. :D
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 26, 2017, 19:34:33 PM
Don't tell Tranny, but I shoot gar, too. And eat them.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 27, 2017, 00:08:29 AM
What the fuck has happened to my thread?

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: troutfanatic on July 27, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 25, 2017, 08:00:19 AM
Largemouth out of our mountain lakes aren't bad at all, at least early in the year. Not my favorite eating fish, but still taste 10x better than any of that shit fish from the grocery store. I don't see how anybody can eat a ditch tilapia and enjoy it.


Tilapia is a toxin magnet.
The honest truth? I don't eat much freshwater fish except crappie and walleye.


Have no fear bassbros, I consider catfish far more disgusting.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 27, 2017, 10:42:27 AM
Can someone please properly prepare turtle so I can try it?
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: driver on July 27, 2017, 11:09:16 AM
How did that carp taste?
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on July 27, 2017, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: driver on July 27, 2017, 11:09:16 AM
How did that carp taste?


Carp are supposed to be captured alive, and turned loose in a tank, and fed a controlled diet for a spell before consuming.  This according to an affluent Filipino dude who adores the flavor of carp.

Same goes for possum.  They need to be fed corn, and vegetable scraps for a week in captivity before consuming.  Heads up, they are still nasty.  My wife has eaten possum, and snapping turtle.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 27, 2017, 15:05:22 PM
Quote from: driver on July 27, 2017, 11:09:16 AM
How did that carp taste?


I do not consume carp. I am not one to believe what everybody says, so I tried one once to see for myself. It was nasty. Very, very strong and fishy. The whole fish was like that nasty red streak that you cut out of stripers, big catfish, or white bass fillets.

I have no guilt in shooting them, as they are a non-native, invasive scourge. But I don't waste them. I either give them to a black guy or a Ukranian guy I know, both of whom love carp; or use them for fertilizer.

The gar on the other hand, are excellent. Nice white, non-fishy boneless meat that in taste and texture is somewhere between alligator and lobster.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 27, 2017, 15:06:33 PM
Quote from: Dee-Vo on July 27, 2017, 10:42:27 AM
Can someone please properly prepare turtle so I can try it?


I have never tried it, but my grandpa used to eat them. I'd like to try one.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 27, 2017, 16:27:10 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 27, 2017, 15:06:33 PM
Quote from: Dee-Vo on July 27, 2017, 10:42:27 AM
Can someone please properly prepare turtle so I can try it?


I have never tried it, but my grandpa used to eat them. I'd like to try one.


Alright, time for a turtle stew.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Phil on July 27, 2017, 16:52:09 PM
When I was a kid we'd go out fishing and shooting turtles w/ pellet guns. Take the bass and crappie home, and give the mudfish and turtles to the black folks at the dock.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: itieuglyflies on July 27, 2017, 17:36:08 PM
To join the wide ranging discussion. First, walleye.....just got back Sat. from annual(20th)  trip to Quebec where our group of ten catches a little over one thousand each year on the six day trip. I eat a lot of fish and I must say a fresh caught walleye sautéed in butter with salt and pepper with a little lemon juice is about as good as it gets when it comes to eating fish. Since we are so far back in the sticks we have walleye with everything.....walleye with blueberries, fried eggs, spaghetti yep tried it!
Yes you can catch them on a fly and I have done it, but a good ole spinning rod with a jig is far superior.

In my younger days I bow fished a lot and would shoot a hundred or so carp each spawning season. Guilt made me at least try carp, since those folks from across the pond brought them here as table fare  I felt I needed to try. Smoked it was ok, just ok. Never felt the need or hungar to deal with them again. I tried to clean a gar once but gave up trying to get through that armor plated skin.....I hear it is tasty. Also, heard their eggs are toxic?

I have also eaten possum once.....never again. Memories of the fat are not pleasant. Snapping turtle I have eaten many times and it is very good. Cleaning the damn things is a chore that I don't like. The standard was to start carving them out of the shell, we even resorted to scalding the whole turtle to make it easier. Bottom line too much work for me.

Sorry for the rambin, wife and I are baby sitting grandkids in northern Va. And I needed a little escape.


Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: tomato can on July 27, 2017, 18:14:53 PM
6 types of meat in a turtle!
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 27, 2017, 19:13:25 PM
Quote from: itieuglyflies on July 27, 2017, 17:36:08 PM
To join the wide ranging discussion. First, walleye.....just got back Sat. from annual(20th)  trip to Quebec where our group of ten catches a little over one thousand each year on the six day trip. I eat a lot of fish and I must say a fresh caught walleye sautéed in butter with salt and pepper with a little lemon juice is about as good as it gets when it comes to eating fish. Since we are so far back in the sticks we have walleye with everything.....walleye with blueberries, fried eggs, spaghetti yep tried it!
Yes you can catch them on a fly and I have done it, but a good ole spinning rod with a jig is far superior.

In my younger days I bow fished a lot and would shoot a hundred or so carp each spawning season. Guilt made me at least try carp, since those folks from across the pond brought them here as table fare  I felt I needed to try. Smoked it was ok, just ok. Never felt the need or hungar to deal with them again. I tried to clean a gar once but gave up trying to get through that armor plated skin.....I hear it is tasty. Also, heard their eggs are toxic?

I have also eaten possum once.....never again. Memories of the fat are not pleasant. Snapping turtle I have eaten many times and it is very good. Cleaning the damn things is a chore that I don't like. The standard was to start carving them out of the shell, we even resorted to scalding the whole turtle to make it easier. Bottom line too much work for me.

Sorry for the rambin, wife and I are baby sitting grandkids in northern Va. And I needed a little escape.


Gar: chop the head and tail off with a hatchet or machete (I have even used a band saw when I had a dozen or two to clean.) Go down the back with some shears, tin snips, or hand pruners. Peel that hide back and you can fillet the backstraps out just like you would with a deer. Good shit. Yes, the eggs are toxic. And nuclear green/blue.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Phil on July 27, 2017, 19:41:47 PM
That sounds like a lot of work, Hammer. I've never eaten gar or turtle. Boy, I used to eat lots of rattlesnake, alligator, squirrel, bass, and crappie (we called 'em speckled perch, though-- never heard 'em called crappie till I was grown). Only tried possum once. It sucked big time.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 27, 2017, 19:54:43 PM


Quote from: itieuglyflies on July 27, 2017, 17:36:08 PM
To join the wide ranging discussion. First, walleye.....just got back Sat. from annual(20th)  trip to Quebec where our group of ten catches a little over one thousand each year on the six day trip. I eat a lot of fish and I must say a fresh caught walleye sautéed in butter with salt and pepper with a little lemon juice is about as good as it gets when it comes to eating fish. Since we are so far back in the sticks we have walleye with everything.....walleye with blueberries, fried eggs, spaghetti yep tried it!
Yes you can catch them on a fly and I have done it, but a good ole spinning rod with a jig is far superior.



I have always dreamed of two major sportsman trips:

1. Upland pheasant/chukkar hunt over a solid German Shorthair in the Dakotas

2. Fly in Canadian Shield Lake trip for walleye, smallies, pike, and musky.



Tell me more about your walleye trip.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: tomato can on July 27, 2017, 21:16:34 PM
we always split the turtles with a hatchet.  Cleaned the guts out of it.  thought this fellar cleans 'em a little differently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzFiB7q3V9I

Dayumson:  Pheasant hunting in North Dakota is the bomb.  But I used a Gordon Setter and a Am. Water Spaniel.  We also shot some sharptail grouse and huns.   I think chuckars are up in the mountains.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 27, 2017, 21:50:59 PM
Quote from: Phil on July 27, 2017, 19:41:47 PM
That sounds like a lot of work, Hammer. I've never eaten gar or turtle. Boy, I used to eat lots of rattlesnake, alligator, squirrel, bass, and crappie (we called 'em speckled perch, though-- never heard 'em called crappie till I was grown). Only tried possum once. It sucked big time.

Not as much work as it sounds like.  A couple minutes per fish. And yeah, possum is nasty.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 27, 2017, 21:53:56 PM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 27, 2017, 19:54:43 PM


Quote from: itieuglyflies on July 27, 2017, 17:36:08 PM
To join the wide ranging discussion. First, walleye.....just got back Sat. from annual(20th)  trip to Quebec where our group of ten catches a little over one thousand each year on the six day trip. I eat a lot of fish and I must say a fresh caught walleye sautéed in butter with salt and pepper with a little lemon juice is about as good as it gets when it comes to eating fish. Since we are so far back in the sticks we have walleye with everything.....walleye with blueberries, fried eggs, spaghetti yep tried it!
Yes you can catch them on a fly and I have done it, but a good ole spinning rod with a jig is far superior.



I have always dreamed of two major sportsman trips:

1. Upland pheasant/chukkar hunt over a solid German Shorthair in the Dakotas

2. Fly in Canadian Shield Lake trip for walleye, smallies, pike, and musky.


Tell me more about your walleye trip.


Sounds good to me. I would add a caribou or moose hunt with primitive archery equipment. And catching some of those 2' long brook trout up in Canada on flies that look like a big wharf rat. Or colored-up Arctic char.
 
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: The Dude on July 28, 2017, 07:31:52 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on July 27, 2017, 15:05:22 PM

I do not consume carp. I am not one to believe what everybody says, so I tried one once to see for myself. It was nasty. Very, very strong and fishy. The whole fish was like that nasty red streak that you cut out of stripers, big catfish, or white bass fillets.

I have no guilt in shooting them, as they are a non-native, invasive scourge. But I don't waste them. I either give them to a black guy or a Ukranian guy I know, both of whom love carp; or use them for fertilizer.


Being of Slovak (Rusyn) & Ukrainian (Lemko) descent, I have eaten and enjoy a lot of the ethnic dishes at family gatherings - pirohi, halupki, bobalki, halushki, kolachi, hrutka, etc. Christmas Eve supper is a particularly traditional meal (meatless as is the Byzantine Catholic policy).  The main dish is typically smoked carp, but that was one part of the old world palate that we never incorporated (maybe because it was too hard to come by on Christmas Eve) - instead we always just had shrimp. To this day I've never eaten carp.
I did eat possum once. I was a fresh 2LT in the Army and one of my soldiers died in a horrific car accident while home on leave in Magnolia, Arkansas. I attended his funeral, and funerals in the rural south black community are like a party with lots of potluck food. Someone brought a possum dish and the family dared me to eat it. It wasn't particularly good, but I didn't think it was as nasty as people usually say. It was bland in taste and the texture was a little mushy, but mostly I just remember it being really greasy, almost like a petrol based grease like Vaseline or something like that. I still finished my plate so it couldn't have been that bad, although I passed when offered seconds.


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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: troutfanatic on July 28, 2017, 10:27:00 AM
Turtle soup is a big thing in southwest Pennsylvania. Although it seems to be declining (generation thing?) I used to eat it frequently. There is a bar near my MiL's house that is well known for it. Closest thing I can describe it as, is similar to Manhattan style clam chowder. So a tomato broth with potatoes, veggies and, uh, turtle.

Agree with Ken about keeping a carp for a bit before eating. One of my Dad's friends used to ask me to put a couple on a stringer. He'd come get them in a cooler with an aerator. He had a small pond behind his house where he kept them. He'd brine them and smoke them. I ate it a few times, and it wasn't bad.

If we wanna discuss odd table fare, I once ate rover while in Korea. I didn't know until afterwards but it wasn't horrible. I also had horse and camel on various Mideast visits.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: itieuglyflies on July 28, 2017, 12:21:48 PM
Beaver has always been a favorite of mine.....
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: The Dude on July 28, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: itieuglyflies on July 28, 2017, 12:21:48 PM
Beaver has always been a favorite of mine.....


You like it served with a side of spicy red clam sauce?
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Post by: troutfanatic on July 28, 2017, 12:57:41 PM
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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Aka on July 28, 2017, 18:13:13 PM
I had hawksbill turtle soup in Nicaragua. It was prepared simply with local tubers and chayote. The meat had a pleasant flavor but was very greasy.
The tiny "restaurant" that had it on that days menu had two other turtles behind the shop that were awaiting a similar fate as the one in my soup bowl. A couple of eco-warriors slipped behind the restaurant later that night under a cloak of darkness to liberate them and then returned them to the sea from whence they came.


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Post by: Onslow on August 26, 2017, 09:04:16 AM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 16, 2017, 13:36:51 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 16, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 15, 2017, 23:00:52 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 15, 2017, 12:18:30 PM


Fuk a walleye tho. 

Damn low performing yankee pop eyed prairie perch.  Whatever you do, don't start talking like yer from Iowa, or some shit.

New River natives bro

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You might be mistaken on the "native" New Walleye.  Native to the Clinch, Big Sandy, etc. drainage perhaps, but I don't think the Walleye is native to the New River.  Ken also may be smoking his socks when he lumps them as "yankee pop eyed prairie perch".

Best fish I ever tasted were MN Walleye, all you could eat at a mom-and-pop joint in northern MN.

Rock on!



https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251574039_Movements_of_Walleyes_in_Claytor_Lake_and_the_Upper_New_River_Virginia_Indicate_Distinct_Lake_and_River_Populations


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://theses.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-121499-151909/unrestricted/etd.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjiqp3sqo7VAhVDOj4KHaHiDFMQFggdMAA&usg=AFQjCNHj1pHwBHkUy1Qj5-ZymxNkEI-yOA

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brian_Murphy10/publication/251573420_Genetic_marker-assisted_restoration_of_the_presumptive_native_walleye_fishery_in_the_New_River_Virginia_and_West_Virginia/links/0046351f137feb9e8d000000/Genetic-marker-assisted-restoration-of-the-presumptive-native-walleye-fishery-in-the-New-River-Virginia-and-West-Virginia.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjiqp3sqo7VAhVDOj4KHaHiDFMQFggiMAE&usg=AFQjCNEA8eI1UvX0_uGMHpLJlM2J5Ob5pA

George Palmer did his graduate work on the New River walleye and found there exists two genetically distinct stocks: one lotic and one lentic. The lotic stock (or strain) spawns in the river is always bigger.

The genetics of the river strain is more similar to a strain of walleye found in the Rockcastle River in KY than any lake strain known. It is unique in that it has never been found anywhere else except the New. They are restocking New River strain walleyes by testing large female and males via fin clips and protein analysis prior to spawning them at the Buller fish hatchery.

Also, the old timers will tell you about them. They called them "pike".

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Thread of the year.

So the USGS data suggests that Muskies, Redbreasts, Rock Bass, Walleyes, Smallmouth Bass are all upper New interlopers.  Flathead cats, and brook trout are native brethren.  Lets discuss. 

While this is possible due to features such as Brooks Falls, and Sandstone, I simply cannot wrap my head around what is currently regarded as facts.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Stone-Man on August 26, 2017, 12:00:52 PM
I've eaten a few muskrats -- Delicious  !!

Back to Cave
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: wildmttwalleye on August 26, 2017, 20:49:12 PM
Quote from: Onslow on August 26, 2017, 09:04:16 AM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 16, 2017, 13:36:51 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 16, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 15, 2017, 23:00:52 PM
Quote from: Onslow on July 15, 2017, 12:18:30 PM


Fuk a walleye tho. 

Damn low performing yankee pop eyed prairie perch.  Whatever you do, don't start talking like yer from Iowa, or some shit.

New River natives bro

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You might be mistaken on the "native" New Walleye.  Native to the Clinch, Big Sandy, etc. drainage perhaps, but I don't think the Walleye is native to the New River.  Ken also may be smoking his socks when he lumps them as "yankee pop eyed prairie perch".

Best fish I ever tasted were MN Walleye, all you could eat at a mom-and-pop joint in northern MN.

Rock on!



https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251574039_Movements_of_Walleyes_in_Claytor_Lake_and_the_Upper_New_River_Virginia_Indicate_Distinct_Lake_and_River_Populations


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://theses.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-121499-151909/unrestricted/etd.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjiqp3sqo7VAhVDOj4KHaHiDFMQFggdMAA&usg=AFQjCNHj1pHwBHkUy1Qj5-ZymxNkEI-yOA

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brian_Murphy10/publication/251573420_Genetic_marker-assisted_restoration_of_the_presumptive_native_walleye_fishery_in_the_New_River_Virginia_and_West_Virginia/links/0046351f137feb9e8d000000/Genetic-marker-assisted-restoration-of-the-presumptive-native-walleye-fishery-in-the-New-River-Virginia-and-West-Virginia.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjiqp3sqo7VAhVDOj4KHaHiDFMQFggiMAE&usg=AFQjCNEA8eI1UvX0_uGMHpLJlM2J5Ob5pA

George Palmer did his graduate work on the New River walleye and found there exists two genetically distinct stocks: one lotic and one lentic. The lotic stock (or strain) spawns in the river is always bigger.

The genetics of the river strain is more similar to a strain of walleye found in the Rockcastle River in KY than any lake strain known. It is unique in that it has never been found anywhere else except the New. They are restocking New River strain walleyes by testing large female and males via fin clips and protein analysis prior to spawning them at the Buller fish hatchery.

Also, the old timers will tell you about them. They called them "pike".

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Thread of the year.

So the USGS data suggests that Muskies, Redbreasts, Rock Bass, Walleyes, Smallmouth Bass are all upper New interlopers.  Flathead cats, and brook trout are native brethren.  Lets discuss. 

While this is possible due to features such as Brooks Falls, and Sandstone, I simply cannot wrap my head around what is currently regarded as facts.
All I can really discuss is brookies and walleye. I could be wrong, happens more often than not, but both of them are viewed as Native by to the New Basin by VDGIF.

I'm fairly well versed in the papers which establish this notion for both species. I can post em up if you want to read them.

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Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: Onslow on August 27, 2017, 06:06:13 AM
I'm interested in methods used to arrive at conclusions. 
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: troutfanatic on August 27, 2017, 11:05:17 AM
QuoteI can post em up if you want to read them.


Please do.

Unrelated, but if you have anything that provides an idea of temperature tolerances for crayfish and common aquatic insects, I'll buy you a beer or six.
Title: Re: Spinning rods are the future fam
Post by: RiverbumCO on September 02, 2017, 01:37:25 AM
My extended family had a barrel of turtle but somehow we couldn't get enough to justify a satisfactory cooking. I am sorry To my friend Spork, who acquired one turtle, but the cookout never happened