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Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on June 17, 2012, 17:15:23 pm
I talked to a couple of people about just having a thread for the Smith.  I decided I was going to post mine on just one anyway.  So here goes.  I went back yesterday on 5 hours sleep due to one of my twin daughters calling me at 1:30 in the morning to inform me they ran into a girl from my home town they went to high school with, in a bar in Atlanta.  That's nice, but I do believe that news could have held on until 10 or 11 the next morning.  I got up bleary eyed and headed North.  On the way I called that knot headed daughter and woke her up! -0-   I arrived at the spot I was going to fish around 2 or so.  There was an elderly gentleman in the parking lot rigging up.  He was a nice guy and we talked for awhile.  I decided I was going to let him have that spot and head on upstream.  I went to a place I haven't fished in 2 years.  It took me a little while to get wired in, but once I found the fish I started catching some.  I ended up with 7 fish out of that spot, 1 rainbow and 6 browns.  Only 2 of the browns were under the slot.  I would have stayed there and fished for awhile, but I saw a man coming from upstream headed my way, so I headed back to the car.  I went back to where I started and the elderly gentleman had left.  I walked upstream and hit the river.  After a few minutes I remembered why I had not been back to that place in several years.  I hate that water.  I remembered where I had caught a decent fish the last time I had fished it several years ago, and eased down to where the spot was and cast under the limb and snatched one about 11 inches out.  As soon as I got him in, I cut my losses and headed back to the car.  I went on downstream and caught 2 more decent browns well into the slot.  I have been fishing some new flies I have been messing with  and they weed out the smaller fish.  I have enjoyed the last few trips big time.

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith6-16-12008.jpg)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 17, 2012, 17:49:24 pm
Quote from: 5xTippett on June 17, 2012, 17:15:23 pm
... I got up bleary eyed and headed North.  On the way I called that knot headed daughter and woke her up! -0-   ...


And a happy Father's Day to ya!  b';
I know the last of mine will chime in after I pass out on the sofa later. Jeesh.

Good going Ben! I am all for continuing this thread with all Smiff TR's.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on June 17, 2012, 22:11:46 pm
Those Smith River brownies are no match for you man.  Nice work!   'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bmeador on June 18, 2012, 11:35:14 am
I was able to fish Sat. morning.  Water was gin-clear and 52 degrees at first light.  I had a terrible time w/my hook set and was too slow on the strike!  Was fishing a nymph.  Finally got my act together and started connecting.  Landed 4 browns 7 - 12 inches, nothing spectacular.  Typical Smith brownies.  I did land what I think is the smallest 'bow I've ever seen in the river.  It might've been 6 inches!

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Had to quit at 11 and head back home (2 1/2 hrs.) but I had a good day on the stream.  Gas was $2.989 out in Bassett Forks!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on June 18, 2012, 21:46:20 pm
Sandy, I've caught just a couple of little rainbows like that, but not many.  Scott told me they shock a couple every year.  Most of them come from upstream.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on June 20, 2012, 08:02:21 am
Anybody going to the smith on Saturday?  I am simultaneously trying to get permission from The One Who Must Be Obeyed and talk Big J into catching some Browns.  Let me know if anybody wants to go a fishing.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on June 20, 2012, 09:31:23 am
Quote from: tomato can on June 20, 2012, 08:02:21 am
Anybody going to the smith on Saturday?  I am simultaneously trying to get permission from The One Who Must Be Obeyed and talk Big J into catching some Browns.  Let me know if anybody wants to go a fishing.


What can I say, I'm addicted to the small waters  ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on June 20, 2012, 10:06:59 am
I may be floating somewhere saturday but if that falls though i'll be on the smiff.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 20, 2012, 10:35:24 am
Quote from: tomato can on June 20, 2012, 08:02:21 am
Anybody going to the smith on Saturday?  I am simultaneously trying to get permission from The One Who Must Be Obeyed and talk Big J into catching some Browns.  Let me know if anybody wants to go a fishing.

Well crap, where were you last Sat.? Chores in WV this weekend.  b'; Sorry.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on June 20, 2012, 12:32:37 pm
Family reunion in Aiken, SC for me.   Who ever goes wear 'em out!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 20, 2012, 12:45:30 pm
Good luck gentlemen.  I am off the Smith grid for a few weeks, organizing for annual trip to Wyoming. 

Be sure to keep a few of those 8-9 inchers.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on June 20, 2012, 13:15:31 pm
Man I'd be down for Sunday afternoon
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on June 20, 2012, 17:08:14 pm
"Be sure to keep a few of those 8-9 inchers."  Stephen,  that is from the library on upstream.  From the library on down it is supposed to be in better balance.  I am only keeping the little ones downstream of the library, if they are bleeding like stuck pigs.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: jwgnc on June 20, 2012, 21:41:18 pm
That water sure is clear - how'd yah fool em
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on June 20, 2012, 22:07:30 pm
Jay, I use 12 ft leaders with 3 feet of fluorocarbon tippitt.  I fish flat water.  I walk through water most people fish and I fish water most people walk through.  Other people use different lengths and sizes according to how they fish and what they fish with.  I don't do false casts either.   That river has taught me to never get cocky after a good day.  It will come back and hurt your feelings.  Man, it sure is pretty though.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on June 20, 2012, 22:24:48 pm
Quote from: 5xTippett on June 20, 2012, 22:07:30 pm
Jay, I use 12 ft leaders with 3 feet of fluorocarbon tippitt.  I fish flat water.  I walk through water most people fish and I fish water most people walk through.  Other people use different lengths and sizes according to how they fish and what they fish with.  I don't do false casts either.   That river has taught me to never get cocky after a good day.  It will come back and hurt your feelings.  Man, it sure is pretty though.


And that TC is why I'll be fishing a blue line Saturday  ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 22, 2012, 08:57:26 am
It appears weekend generation for the boaters has begun. 700 cfs 2-5pm Sat., and Sun. scheduled for the same. I would like a trip report if any lucky so-and-so fishes after the generation either day. I'll be there Monday AM if anyone wants to join me.  /'/

(http://waterwatch.usgs.gov/wwapps/ww_chart.php?i=nwis&vt=uv&ot=q&site_no=02072000)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on July 22, 2012, 22:02:08 pm
They weren't supposed to do that this year, unless the boaters snuck it without telling anybody.  I am hoping it is just a one day thing.  The biologist says it hurts the minnow population, which hurts the size of the fish the next year.   The boaters can use the river anytime they want to with my blessings, but I am not big on them using politics to get the generation messed with.  They generate all week anyway if they need a bunch of water to boat with.  They can leave the weekends for the fisherman.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bmeador on July 23, 2012, 09:39:43 am
I agree 100% Ben.  I feel it was related to all the rain they've been getting.  Compared to Farmville, Bassett is a rain forest this year.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 23, 2012, 10:16:04 am
Not sure what has happened. Even the folks who should have "been in the know" were caught by surprise. So far no one is claiming responsibility or credit so it may have been just a fluke - we will see what happens next weekend.

I personally don't mind a weekend generation but if it is for recreational purposes they should time it from 9am to 1pm. That would put the slug of water along the river when most folks, including the fishermen could take advantage of it.

While I have your attention there was a letter to the editor in todays MV Bulletin by SRTU VP Lisa Hall about the litter problem and the our commitment to change that - http://www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=34004+ (http://www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=34004+)  Need your help on Aug 4th with the clean up and beyond to make sure it does not revert back to being known as a "trashy river"
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on July 23, 2012, 12:07:21 pm
Four hours is too much.  One to two hours early in the morning would accomplish what the boaters want without hurting the minnows.  Over two hours hurts the minnows which affects the size of the fish and runs out of town fisherman off the river.  The whole idea of the slot was to increase the size of the fish and increase angler hours.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 23, 2012, 12:52:35 pm
Quote from: 5xTippett on July 23, 2012, 12:07:21 pm
Four hours is too much.  One to two hours early in the morning would accomplish what the boaters want without hurting the minnows.  Over two hours hurts the minnows which affects the size of the fish and runs out of town fisherman off the river.  The whole idea of the slot was to increase the size of the fish and increase angler hours.


We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Ben.

I originally thought 2 hours would be plenty but have since learned the paddlers need at least 3 hours.  It takes at least an hour for the water to get up so boats can safely pass over the majority of rocks. They also need sufficient water coming behind them that they don't run out of water before they get to the take out point because that would ground them and make for a lot of dragging.  For example if you're canoing and fishing at the same time and stop to play a fish or pull over to fish a particularly good looking stretch of riffles you could find yourself running out of water. Same thing would happen if you're kyaking and stop to take pictures or dally at all.

Not sure about the minnow issues but don't see how shutting down generation for the weekend and starting it up for 5 consecutive days during the week would make much difference. I do know a slug of cold water on the weekend helps even out the water temp and helps the way-downstream fishery when water temps are pushing 70-80 degrees.

As far as "running the out of town fishermen off the river" - I don't see that. You can easily figure the flow rate and move up or downstream with the flow.  I even see an advantage if they stop generation in the early afternoon - You'd have several hours of "fishing falling water" which is a prime time for fishing the Smith. On other hand, if like last Saturday, they start at 1pm and run until 5pm there is not enough time for anyone, even the paddlers, to take full advantage of it. (Much better to start in mid morning and stop early afternoon - so slug of water passes by where folks can take advantage of it) - We will just have to see what happens this weekend. Like I said, no one at this stage is sure if it was a fluke or something else is going on. If it is "something else" we need to weigh in on the timing of the release.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutrus on July 23, 2012, 19:27:10 pm
I'm not certain, but I believe that they direct generation toward peak demand periods. Even last year when they "agreed" to run at the request of the angling user group, the time agreed to was in the PM.
http://srtu.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/saturday-generation-starts-this-weekend-july-2nd/ (http://srtu.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/saturday-generation-starts-this-weekend-july-2nd/)

So now, that same group is claiming that the weekend generation is a detriment to the fishery? That's amazing.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on July 23, 2012, 20:06:59 pm
I guess there has to be some middle ground but it seems no one is looking. ;D ;D ;D For those that fish the upper river it can be a problem.I think it is great to get some cooler water down stream and I believe it made a difference down stream last year.Its my understanding that the VDGIF thinks the 4 hour burp can cause some damage.We need to share with the boaters and they can be a great source and a voice when time to make changes and asking for help to make the river better.I personally liked the flows that were coming down river while they were working on the dam.I saw lots more bugs and fish on the feed.Keep it around 100---150cfs during non-generation and do the ramping and take away some of the surge and temp. spikes..... ;D ;D ;D mid-- river and down stream will become a better river.Just my opinion but I never saw enough boaters last year to wonder who was taking advantage of the flows.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 23, 2012, 20:40:04 pm
PeeWee has it about right. There is black and white and somewhere in the middle there is gray. No one, including DGIF is certain what the ideal is. The only certainty is right now we have turbines which only go "full on or full off" and the intake is at the level where water coming out of the turbines is 44 degrees. Until the turbines are changed and they put in a mixing tower,  the fishery will continue to struggle. They can tweak it with ramping and slot limits but even DGIF admits it is a holding action at best. We may be able to increase the growth an inch or two but that is only speculation. New turbines and a mixing tower would leave enough water behind the dam so the state could mandate a minimum flow of 100 cfs like PeeWee suggested instead of the present 20-30 cfs. The water temp could be adjusted to 55-60 degrees which biologist say would increase insect and forage fish proliferation.  You've heard DGIF Biologist Scott Smith say this many times, "little fish don't get big eating midges".

We have studied this to death and know with scientific certainty what must be done.  (yes, even that may not be correct but do you have a better solution) What we need now is the political will power and clout to move things forward. We need you to help by talking it up with folks who may have political influence - it will not happen otherwise.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on July 24, 2012, 20:07:24 pm
I talked to Scott this afternoon and he said I could post our conversation on here.  He said 1 to 2 hours generation on a Saturday morning would probably not hurt the minnows.  Anything over 2 hours would probably hurt the minnow population which would hurt the size of the browns the following year.  He has charts showing the correlation between low generation during the summer and the increase in the minnow population.  Also, he is hoping for an increase in the average size of the browns of around 1/2 inch just for the slot limit being in effect.  The effects of the ramping of the generators is not known, but if it increases the amount of insects we should see some more improvement in average size.  If people will remove some of the browns under the slot we should see even more increases in the size of the browns.  That pretty much wraps it up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on July 24, 2012, 21:41:09 pm
   1. The River
   2. The Fishermen
   3. The Boaters
Ok to me the river is most important.The opinion of the VDGIF should not be ignored if it effects the river.
The fishermen can be mobile and move to fish the down water or the dropping water but if they are to be asked to ride the wave then why not ask the boaters?
I would say the boats are looking for motion and can ride the wave downstream.Why not ride the two hour burp to the next launch site and move to the next as we ask the fishermen to move down river or up to fish the falling water ?
I dont know the answers but if one does not join the other then there is no common goal by either and then the river will loose.The middle river and lower is a dangerous place if you have water rising because of the deep cuts and banks.I know of lots of water that you can get out only at a few locations and then there is no access to get back to your vehicle.I personally have no problem with the release because it helps the mid and lower river but it takes the river away from the fishermen that fish from mid river up to the dam.Damn all I see in this post is black and white  b'; b'; b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on July 29, 2012, 17:13:34 pm
I went back Saturday and fished for about 4 hours, more or less.  I stayed in Bassett rather than going way up or downstream.  As I was rolling through town I saw a group of wild looking characters heading for the river, Al and crew!  I had fun and caught about 10 or eleven, of which 2 were rainbows.  I had 4 browns in the slot and the rest were dinks.  I hooked one grown one which swam right at me and escaped.  One of the rainbows was fairly small and had par marks.

The rainbow with par marks which I am reasonably certain is wild.

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith7-28-12004.jpg)

The decent browns

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After I quit fishing I stopped by Al's and ate kebabs and visited.  One of the guys with Al who had never caught a brown trout before caught a 17 incher that afternoon.  i saw the picture!

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 29, 2012, 20:32:35 pm
Good to see ya Ben. I'm home now and will get my photos and a little report ready as soon as I put out a few "fires" :o.  Took 4 guys who had never fished the Smith before there for the weekend. Everyone caught fish. Not a whole lot but no one got skunked. As been said, one caught a real nice brown.  They all promised to come back next weekend for the Smith River Clean Up  -  You folks should plan to join us - Aug 4th.  See a post elsewhere for details.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on July 29, 2012, 21:06:40 pm
Nice lookin' fish Ben. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 30, 2012, 10:11:24 am
Good stuff Ben. You're still wearing that Bassett stretch out! /'/
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 01, 2012, 15:53:38 pm
http://youtu.be/KwG9iRFmY1I (http://youtu.be/KwG9iRFmY1I)

I have been trying to sneak down for a week and I finally talked myself into it this morning. The foggy morning added to the usual morning mist on the river.

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As I got about halfway down to my jump in, my frequent escorts showed up. High holed by the neighborhood dogs!
Did they learn from the master high holer, himself?  b';

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V8KoB0kgUB4/UBl7Bm2ctYI/AAAAAAAACos/uss6OPDPJ7U/s800/009-001.JPG?gl=US)

Got into fish pretty quickly, mostly on the dropper. Not very big fish today, but pretty as always.

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The hounds moved back downstream and I jumped over the disturbed hole and kept enjoying the cold water, the kingfishers call, and the late summer flora.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZJHIInp25qk/UBl6vuFvpCI/AAAAAAAACnQ/run9mtxMAX0/s800/030.JPG?gl=US)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pACtP5_yyik/UBl6wMQ8qoI/AAAAAAAACnY/dOYbfCwnCVM/s800/032.JPG?gl=US)
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And the fish kept cooperating. I got great satisfaction of catching the nicest fish of the day in a long, slow, shallow section. Lying in the shade, under the tree branches, right where he was supposed to be. And I summoned up the perfect cast and presentation.  ;D

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NltMw6X6Zvg/UBl6tOQWF3I/AAAAAAAACmo/-m99zSBv4Hs/s800/022.JPG?gl=US)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9XRDM3Jwcu4/UBl6pW8z-0I/AAAAAAAAClk/LIroMOVGjkQ/s800/014.JPG?gl=US)
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The golden dog came back and was better behaved. The black bitch probably went home because I didn't have any treats.
That reminded me, time to get some grub. I eased out of the river before the generation and started scheming on my next trip.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 01, 2012, 23:28:37 pm
You did all right, Doug!  It has been awhile since I have fished that river in the morning.  It must be nice to live close enough to do that.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 05, 2012, 22:13:02 pm

After a long stay away, I made my way back to the Smith.  I went down yesterday and helped out with the clean-up and it gave me the itch to get out and catch a few.  I really didn't know what to expect with clear blue skies and 90 degrees, but I just had to go.


I pull into the designated parking area and found a couple of others with the same idea I had.  I found a pair of sunglasses on the way in if anybody lost a pair out there?


Tied me on a 12 foot 6x leader with a couple more feet of 7x tippet.  Size 16 EHC tied up with a peacock herl body immediately put a fish on the line.


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This stuff was thick on the river bottom and looked like a good hiding place for little critters.


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Man these fish loved some sz 16 adams and sz 16 sulphurs.


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All the fish were dinky as could be, but it was still great to get out.  I need to get me a medium action 3wt to have a little more fun wrestling those little guys in.


The Hike out


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Until next time






Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 06, 2012, 09:00:03 am
Glad you got out and had some success, Scott. Good stuff!
Yea, that hike out is a beotch. 0:0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 06, 2012, 09:13:04 am
Quote from: 5xTippett on August 01, 2012, 23:28:37 pm
You did all right, Doug!  It has been awhile since I have fished that river in the morning.  It must be nice to live close enough to do that.


Admit it Ben - even if you lived right along side the river you won't hit it before noon because you're not an early riser. :P

Good to see a lot of familiar faces at the clean up - Thanks for helping out guys and gals.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 06, 2012, 15:16:54 pm
good stuf guys! nice to see the Smith getting some lov'in
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 11, 2012, 22:59:08 pm
http://www.youtu.be/9JFgC3Ub10E (http://www.youtu.be/9JFgC3Ub10E)

Woke up early this morning and jumped on the zero turn and mowed some wet jungle grass.  With the amount of rain we have been getting, two weeks in between mows is tough on the mower.  Finally about noon I made it down to the Smith River fest.  From what I hear it was record turn out.  Dougfish and I had planned to help out at the booth and then head to the river for an evening fish.  About 3 p.m. we made like horse crap and hit the trail. 

The river was up a bit and lightly stained.  We both sort of guessed that it was about 6 inches higher than normal.  Its amazing what just a little bit of extra water will do.  Areas that are normally empty or what I would consider useless water proved to be the most productive areas. 

It wasn't too long before we were both into fish.
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We had a group of paddlers make their way through.
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What is a TR without a flower photo?
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We both struggled pretty bad with losing fish.  Plenty rising to our presentations and just not connecting or coming unbuttoned during the retrieve.  But we still managed several a piece.
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Dougfish throwing some tight loops
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One of Doug's
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Biggest brownie for me
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We fished until I couldn't see my hand in front of my face.
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Overall it was a good time on the river.  The brownies were very cooperative.

Until next time...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 12, 2012, 07:39:34 am
I met up with Al, Larry and Darrin for a  little tying, socializing and talking to the public about TU and fly fishing at the Smith River Fest. By 3 I was d-o-n-e done and fireboy was chomping at the bit to get his feet wet. Tally ho!

The combination of mid 80's, high humidty and a 4 hour generation made for some awesome fog.
He's up stream in the stew.
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He got into fish pretty quick, I got in a few misses and finally got enough separation between us to hit the nice water he had started in. :D
Then the rock grinding, water splashing yak family came along. Forkers. And I couldn't for the life of me handle a fish and take a picture today. Butterfingers with the butter fish.
Caught up with Scott and we started back into them.

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As Scott said, Townes Creek had stained the water some, and from increased runoff, and/or increased flow from the dam we had 6 extra inches of water to work with. Definitively spread the fish out some.

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We fished until dark and hit a quick little hatch you couldn't even see for last minute action.
We both did well, but he spanked me today. Til next time.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 14, 2012, 13:15:15 pm
It would be nice if people would bake in their own juices so they could let up on the generation on weekdays.  Sure would like to get out after work.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 14, 2012, 14:51:17 pm
Good reports Doug & Scott. Glad you guys got into them.  Good working with you at the RiverFest. Thanks for showing support to SRTU.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wesmsmith on August 19, 2012, 15:49:36 pm
Great Report!!!

I`m new to Virginia and need to hit the water.  If someone with no experience or knowledge about the Smith was going to fish it, what would you tell them?  Where to fish it? What bugs?  I appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 19, 2012, 17:50:28 pm
Quote from: wesmsmith on August 19, 2012, 15:49:36 pm
Great Report!!!

I`m new to Virginia and need to hit the water.  If someone with no experience or knowledge about the Smith was going to fish it, what would you tell them?  Where to fish it? What bugs?  I appreciate the help.


Check your PM box - sent you some info.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 19, 2012, 19:25:53 pm
I went back to the Smith yesterday for the first time in several weeks.  I started way upstream in one of my normal  spots and caught 4 in just a few minutes.  I heard some wood ducks squealing and a few minutes later a flock flew over my head.  Shortly after that I heard laughing and a boat floats by with a man and his daughter.  They were nice but it put the fish down.  Close to 30 minutes later I started seeing fish again.  I ended up with about a dozen out of that spot.  I hopped back in the car and headed downstream to Wooly's and Mud's spot.  I don't normally mess with that place as a general rule because of the crowds, but I am glad I stopped.  There wasn't but one car in the parking lot.  I fished for about 2 hours and caught around another dozen.  I left around 8 and arrived home around midnight.  Not a bad day.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 19, 2012, 20:15:38 pm
Good beatdown, Ben.  'c;
I won't be back for a few weeks or more myself. That damn job thing......
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 20, 2012, 19:59:00 pm
Good stuff...I hope to get back out this weekend!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 25, 2012, 20:58:55 pm
Woke up at 6 this morning, threw some clothes on, and headed to the river.  Made it to the parking area around 6:45.  I completely suited up and realized I left my beverages at home.  I pondered for a little about just hiking in and not worrying about it.  But, I knew if I didn't have something to drink I would wish that I did.  So I got back in the truck, waders and all, and made the couple mile drive back to the nearest store. 

Forgive me if this was one of your cousins, but I made a little remark to the lady at the register, "I know I look ridiculous in this body suit".  But, then she smiled and let out a big laugh and the 1 tooth in her head made me not feel so bad.  Anyway, good laugh and I raced back to the river. 

Its about 7:30 at this time and I still had about a mile hike I was going to make down the tracks.  I don't know what I was so worried about time since I had until about 3 p.m. before I needed to head home. 

Finally got my feet wet, but after an hour I was ready to gouge my eyes out.  I've tried several things at this point and nothing is working.  At about 9:00 a.m.  or a little after a good fish made an awesome rise to something and gave me a little hint that things might start picking up.  It wasn't but a few minutes later and I started getting into some fish.

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Stumpled upon this pile.  It was either a fox or a coyote.  Not sure what happened, but it was surprisingly in tact just to be mainly skull and bones.

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Weatherman, or at the least the source I use, was a little wrong this morning.  It rained off and on on me all morning and I never saw the sun.  But, I had the river to myself so I can't complain.

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Overall the Smith treated me very well today.  Leaves were starting to fall.  Summer is leaving. 

Until next time.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on August 25, 2012, 21:10:43 pm
Awesome job, beautiful browns! I hit the river after work today,  didn't have much time so I stayed close to home and fished below Martinsville dam at the canoe launch. I managed about 10 fish but unfortunately they were all bait!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 25, 2012, 21:36:55 pm
Nice fish! Glad you got out and got into fish and stayed hydrated, Scott. I wish I had the time to join you.  b';
Got the new 9 wt. strung up between chores, though.  ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 26, 2012, 11:24:18 am
Consumed, you take a lot better pictures than me!  I believe I need to take a photography course.  Anyway, I fished yesterday afternoon and I didn't see a soul.  I got to the parking lot a little after 3 and I was the only one there.  I walked down the tracks a ways and fished back up.  The first hour or so I caught a grand total of 4 fish,  three of which were dinks.  I made it to the next pool about 5 or so and I started catching fish immediately, some of them decent.  After awhile I decided to get out and head toward Bassett to finish the afternoon off downstream.  I stopped midtown and fished for another hour or so and picked up some more fish.  I do enjoy that river, but I was whipped by the time I got home.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: flatlander on August 26, 2012, 11:47:35 am
Nice work, cousin.  Glad you got out.  Sorry I missed your call yesterday. 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 26, 2012, 12:11:29 pm


Things were getting hectic around the house with the wifey and teenage
daughter having words. I took the dog and despite the late hour headed
up the road for some piece and quiet. Filled up the car and drove off,
not stopping for any refreshments, but changed my mind and stopped in
at the Citgo, who knew they stocked Fat Tire?

Sally chased rabbits, and I hit the water. I worked hard trying to get
one fish that was up against the bank under a downed limb, and another
fish that was rising from under a submerged log. Both involved impossible
cast, but occasionally I got the drift. They wanted the fly on the twitch,
and timing was critical. While I got them to rise, I failed to land them.

I fished until it was way way dark, that's one way past reason, but there
were some sulfurs coming off and #8 yellow drakes, too. The cloud filled
sky darkened the water and it appeared inky black.  The crickets and
cicadas filled the air with their chirping and the water babbled softly
at 65 cfs.  I managed to get a small ones to hand before it became impossible
to see the fly. As I waded back to the trail, I called for Sally. Soon her
silhouette strobed across the trees along the bank and I heard her paws
pounding the ground. Panting , she laid in the river, and waited for me.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 26, 2012, 13:45:54 pm
Well played 5X and Wolly.   -0-
I need to get back down to the torture chamber.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 26, 2012, 14:41:04 pm
I packed up around 2 p.m.  Looks like the Smith faired well for all of us.   V:;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on August 26, 2012, 16:51:02 pm
Congrats to all of you guys, much better than my bait fish but I just didn't have time! Beautiful fish!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 27, 2012, 10:47:10 am


Inspired by the cooler weather I ran off with Sally for another round
of abuse on the Smith River. I was able to leave by four which would give me
an acceptable amount of stream time. When we got to the river I realized that
I forgot my hat. Damn, I always fish with a hat. I checked the trunk and back
seat just to make sure there wasn't a spare lying around. Nope, I'll have to
deal with the afternoon glare, and I imagined that it would be difficult to
deal with.  I popped open a Fat Tire and began the walk across the field.
Sally was on full alert, nose held high in the breeze, hoping to catch a scent. 

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First things, first! Lounge around in the cool water after chasing vermin in the field.

When we got to the water I parked my beer on a rock, half submerged in the
cool water, before rigging up my rod. I was in the shade for the moment,
and the sun was illuminating the run on the far side making it easy to see
below the surface. There were a number of midges and a few sulfurs and
grey drakes in the air. A few fish rose, and I turned my head at the sound,
hoping to see the remaining ring.

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The lack of a hat forced me to stand in the shade, which offered a new angle
to the run. I somehow managed a miraculous cast that hooked to the left and
had enough slack in it to allow a nice long drift under the overhanging shrubs.
Bam! Hot stuff! Fucker ran under the log, oh shit. Don't panic! Side pressure;
pull him out from under the obstruction, success! Maybe that deserves another
beer? Na, I'll wait a little longer.

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Although I spotted a number of risers, they weren't all that regular and
the river wasn't exactly on fire. Long drifts close to the bank under the
overhanging trees and rhododendrons passed undisturbed for the most part,
but occasionally a twitch brought on an aggressive strike. Sometimes the
fish missed the fly, and sometimes I landed another stunted Smith River brown.

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Sally hung out on the river for a while, but then was off up in the field
chasing after small game, while I drank beer and chased after trouts.

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Around dusk I saw this large yellow drake, it was huge, and it fluttered
as it emerged, I grabbed the camera with the intent of videoing the fly
as it bounced along the current trying to gain flight. I mashed the wrong
button and only captured this blurred image  just before the fly took off
and flew down the river about a foot above the surface. Twelve feet from
where it became airborne a  brown came up off the bottom and leapt out
of the water, acrobatically spinning as if trying to jump a high bar in
a failed attempt to capture the drake in midair. How that fish tracked
the flying mayfly is beyond me, but it was the wow moment of the day.

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As dusk approached, Sally came back down to the river as I finished up the last Fat Tire.

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When it became too dark to fish, we hiked out. Sally's nose picked up
some scent and she ran off through the field.

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I stopped in at the best place in town before the drive home.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 27, 2012, 12:05:06 pm
Keith, I have seen yellow Drakes from time to time, but I hardly ever see fish eat them.  Neat!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 27, 2012, 18:25:27 pm
Nice report.  I was telling someone today how I wish most of the fish weren't dinks.  But, considering how weary those little guys are, I think there is still something to be said about bringing them to hand. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: croaker on August 27, 2012, 21:03:15 pm
Well done hatless TR  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on August 29, 2012, 12:52:37 pm
Saw a bit of the sampling below Martinsville dam....I'm sure someone will have pics....looking! pretty damn good
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 29, 2012, 20:51:24 pm
Stream Sampling on the Smith River VA on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/48488898)

that was me... I tossed some streamers in the morning before they got to work. Didn't catch any and stopped to watch the shocking process.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 03, 2012, 00:00:33 am

Got the lawn mowed and rewarded myself with a trip up to the river
with the dog. I thought that the thunderstorms would hold off, but
when we got out of the car at the mirror plant the air was thick and
I thought conditions were now ripe for a shower. I looked at my rain
jacket and decided to leave it behind. A cool rain might just feel good
on a day like today.

When we got to the river fish were rising up and down the pool. There
was a midge hatch in full swing, little grey fuckers. I hate midges. I tied
on a #22 Griffiths gnat and went to work. Those fish sure are picky, it
would sometimes take 20 cast over a riser for it to take my fly! I was
catching about 4 fish an hour, not exactly on fire, but steady in a slow
sort of way. Sally came out in the river and nudged up against me. Then
I hear the thunder and understood what she wanted. We headed out
and saw the approaching storm. Which turned out to be quite a frog strangler.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 03, 2012, 06:48:10 am
I hate midges too. Nice pics, as always! 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on September 08, 2012, 20:14:47 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaiT2ignyEc

Rolled over at 7:00 and started a pot of coffee.  Packed my gear into the truck and headed Northeast.  Made it to the mirror plant a little before 8.  I took my time throwing on the body suit as I sort of began to dread the hike in.  But, I just took a deep breath and a moment to thank God I had the day off and was going to enjoy some time on the river.

This is going to be more of a photo dump than anything....

Got to love the railroad!
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Fish were very active on top this morning and pretty much all day with an occasional dry spell...no pun intended  ::) 

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The sun was bright, but early on the water had a greenish tint to it which helped out a lot.

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These Smith River browns sure catch the eye...

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Had the river to myself up until maybe noon.  But, whoever that guy was, he was like a rabbit.  I saw him maybe 2 minutes and he was gone.

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Ran into the boss man a little later in the day...He and Sally were out enjoying the nice weather.

Sorry no pics of Keith...

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Nothing in the fly fishing realm beats a good rise...

Until next time...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 09, 2012, 07:58:42 am
 'c;  'c;  'c; Nice.
I was going down Sunday morning until my responsible side said "take care of things at home, dumbshit".
Anybody up for Friday AM?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 09, 2012, 13:49:32 pm


Took sally up to the river, yesterday, for a few hours, the wind was blowing and the sky
was overcast. There were bugs on the water and fish were rising up and down the pool.
Somebody was shooting up on the ridge and gun shy Sally wouldn't leave my side. I
manage to get a few fish to rise and saw a couple of decent fish. It slowed down a bit
and I drank a beer of two. Scott came up from down below and we chatted for a while,
then a storm threatened to blow up. Scott called it a day, and I sat down and waited
for the river to clear from all of the leaves that were blown into the water. Things
never picked up and although I thought about fishing until dark, we left the stream for some pizza around six.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 09, 2012, 17:38:42 pm
Went to the Smith this morning, nice and cool....felt wonderful. As I step into the water a dead fish is resting on a rock. Not a lot of risers but got about a dozen on a 18 red zebra midge, only a couple were picture worthy. Nice cold beverage to end the trip. Sorry my pics are terrible compared to most but here it is....
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 09, 2012, 17:40:40 pm
I got up Saturday morning and decided to head up to the Smith to fish Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning.  I called Dean on the way and we decided to meet in Bassett around 4:00.  I stopped and gassed up and checked into the motel.  I arrived in Bassett around 3:00.  Every one of my spots had people in it.  I said the heck with it and went on to where I was supposed to meet Dean.  I managed to lose my lanyard somewhere in Bassett while I was jumping in and out of my car checking spots.  I fished downstream of where I was supposed to meet Dean, and picked up a few while I was waiting on Dean.  He arrived a minute or two early and we fished for an hour or so.  Dean mopped up for awhile and I picked up a few more.  We then hit another spot and the fish were eating pretty good.  Dean left before seven and headed home.  I fished for a few more minutes and rode by the mirror pool.  I didn't see anybody I knew and headed back to the motel.  I started to stop and eat a pizza, but didn't.  Dean called me at 8:30 this morning and we met again and fished for a couple more hours and we both caught some decent fish for the Smith. 

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It was good to see Dean and I wished Peewee could have made it.  Looks like you and Scott had fun, Keith.





Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 09, 2012, 18:22:03 pm
Good going gentlemen! 'c;   You're killing me! b';
I'll tie up some more secret weapons this week while traveling and try to test the waters at the end of the week.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 09, 2012, 19:03:24 pm
 bd;0
Good job 5x, really nice size, makes me look like an amateur.........oh wait! I am :laugh:
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: benben reincarnated on September 09, 2012, 19:11:00 pm
Nice reports by all as of late.   'c;


Keith, you ever call those hitchhikers on your waders beggar lice?  I remember as a kid my grandfather called them that.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: flyrod on September 09, 2012, 19:26:36 pm
Hey Ben, thanks for the bugs and the class on how to fish them.  Really enjoyed the time on the water yesterday and today.  Since I don't get to work for 7 weeks, I hope to spend some time on the water.  Let me know when you want to go again.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on September 09, 2012, 20:32:50 pm
Good job 5x sounds like you and flyrod had them covered this week.Going to have to get back in the water soon before I forget how to catch one of those Smith River brownies. Glad you guys found a few eating.......Be safe
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 09, 2012, 23:40:11 pm
looks like you guys crushed 'em ....

I went back up to the Mirror plant.. will throw up some pics tomorrow...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 10, 2012, 12:15:36 pm


A cold front blew through and it felt great outside the humidity was cut if half from the previous day to a comfy 42%. A hint of fall perhaps and after taking care of some yard work, I split for the river with the dog. She settles into the back seat, lying down out of the way of the rod that is still strung up from yesterday's trip.

As we pulled into the parking lot, Sally perked up and was ready to go. I was amazed that the lot was empty on such a gorgeous afternoon, where is everybody, I wondered. Never mind, I've got miles of river to myself, not that we cover more than 100 yards of it, it's still nice to know that you have it all.

Sally ran down the edge of the field, sniffing along the way, then bounding off to chase after some unseen varmint. It's a half mile to the pool / run where I like to fish. There were two Fat Tires and a Dogfish Pumpkin' Ale  in the pack, and I set the New Belgians into the stream then popped open the 7% Pumpkin', which is tasty but has an ever so slight alcohol burn. I studied the river as I enjoyed the beer, a few midges, sulfurs and yellow and slate drakes popped off. No fish rose in the run, but I saw a trout chase down an emerging drake in the shallows not 6 inches from the bank. I set the beer down in the river half submerged up against a mid-stream rock. I worked the run hoping to entice a rise. 

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-10.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-11.jpg)

As the evening closed in, the river came to life, and the trout began to rise more eagerly. They were mostly small as usual for this part of the river.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/090912-12.jpg)




Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: OldDominionAngler on September 10, 2012, 13:02:37 pm
Damn fine pictures Woolly, I especially like the picture of Sally in the water...perfect camouflage.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 10, 2012, 18:48:33 pm
Woolly, I swear, I don't know what is better, your fish or your pictures! You could make a career out of it! 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 10, 2012, 19:52:07 pm
Quote from: gonephishin' on September 10, 2012, 18:48:33 pm
Woolly, I swear, I don't know what is better, your fish or your pictures! .... 'c;


This.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on September 10, 2012, 20:35:06 pm
Nice pics as always.  That storm that brushed by us on Saturday layed the smack down on Martinsville city...at least thats whats i heard
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 11, 2012, 11:21:34 am
Quote from: consumnfire1229 on September 10, 2012, 20:35:06 pm
Nice pics as always.  That storm that brushed by us on Saturday layed the smack down on Martinsville city...at least thats whats i heard


Yup, a few trees down and bad lightning. I was actually fishing under Martinsville dam as it came up....couple flashes of lightning had me making making a new trail through the trees back to the car!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 11, 2012, 15:54:10 pm


three days running....

I somehow got it in my head that after I checked my emails this morning I could drive up to the river and throw streamers until thy opened up that dam at one. It was still kind of cool at 10:30 when I rigged up the 6wt. with an articulated brown peanut. Worked my down to the big bend without so much as a bump. Switched to a smaller fly. Foulhooked this:

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/091112-1.jpg)


hooked a decent brown but it self released before photo opportunity

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/091112-2.jpg)

Moved back up top and worked the big run, hooked this

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/9/091112-3.jpg)

might have been too bright and sunny today

water came up and I went back to work...



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 12, 2012, 13:56:55 pm
Got to the river around 8 this morning. Something was telling me to keep my phone on me today, so I put it in a zip lock bag and tucked it away. Per usual, only the very occasional riser so I tied on my usual set-up parachute adams and a zebra midge. 5 minutes in I had a nice sized one on the hook but he managed to shake himself off. A couple minutes later I made a cast under a few hanging limbs where I had seen a bit of rising going on and one took my midge. (Two pictures of the same fish.)

Then.......
Phone call from Patrick Henry Elementry school.....my 8 year old is sick and needs to be picked up! b';

I turn and look at all the water I had planned to cover and said "see ya Friday", cried a second and took off to fufill my fatherly obligations.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 14, 2012, 23:15:48 pm
Fish were finicky on the Smith today, I tried emergers, streamers, midges..... I watched several fish chase after a couple olive streamers and my midges but they stopped before acting. b';  Had one hit and miss on a cahill. Finally one took my adams and then 2 cast later what looked like a dink brook hit my 22 zebra midge.

Also, happened to look down and saw a crayfish by my foot, as nothing was hitting at the moment I decided to get a pic in and it turned out it was full of eggs! Interesting :o

But hey, I'll take a 2 fish day over a no fish day anytime! -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 15, 2012, 00:48:38 am
Sounds like work getting in the way of fishing paid off for me today.  :D
Slay 'em next time, dude.  d:b I'm trying them Sat. am. Hope they treat me more kindly.
Eggs?!? Neh, neh my friend. Bait. More bait for the brownies.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on September 15, 2012, 21:17:00 pm
Woke up this morning shortly after 5:30 a.m. and started a pot of coffee.  Outside temp was just shy of 57.  I'm excited to hit the river, but I knew my teeth were going to be chattering until the sun started shining.  Threw some eggs in a pan and some bacon in the oven.  Wife woke up around 6 and ate some breakfast with me and then I hit the trail. 

Doug was supposed to meet me at the parking area at 7.  Where's Doug?  Then I hear his RPMs turning.  Oh, here he comes. 

We both take our time suiting up and finally make it down to the river.  We haven't had any rain in at least a week.  With no help from Towne Creek, the water was gin clear and ankle deep.   Not to mention clear blue skies. 

I connected early on with a left over rainbow from the hatchery.  But, fishing was slow, and I mean slow.  Early on, neither of us could put a finger on what was up, but if I had to guess it would be the gin clear water.

Doug working a rising fish. 
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Lots of cream colored midges around a size 20 or 22 and as always those size 30 grey midges.  Occasional MayFly along with a cinnamon colored caddis.  But, even with the bug activity the fish just didn't see to be active at all.  We would see an occasional rise or maybe find that one fish out of 100 that was feeding aggresively.

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We both had afternoon plans today.  Doug bounced around Noon, but I was going to continue on until 1.  I kept working my way up and finally found some activity going on

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Some of these pics could possibly be the same fish, I'm not really sure...

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Until next time...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 16, 2012, 22:49:17 pm
I headed back yesterday for another go at it.  I called Dean on the way up there and we agreed to meet around 5:00.  A friend called on the way up there and he said he was going to be fishing too.  I started fishing around 2:30 in the middle of town and caught around 8 in an hour or so.  My second friend stopped for awhile and he decided to head upstream.  I had about 2 hours to kill before I was going to meet Dean, so I stopped on the way to where I was going to finish up.  I fished for an hour and a half and caught 3 fish.  That stop was a tactical error on my part.  I called Dean and he told me where he was.  I went about a half mile below him and hopped in the water.  That spot was the ticket.  I caught fish steadily until it started getting too dark.  By that time Dean had arrived.  We talked for awhile and I headed back home.  This is my favorite time of the year to fish that river.

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-17-2012011.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-17-2012010.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-17-2012008.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-17-2012007.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-17-2012005.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-17-2012003.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-17-2012012.jpg)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 17, 2012, 06:48:58 am
Damn Ben. You schooled us. My morning was a magnum suckage. I probably couldn't have caught a bluegill out of a farm pond, I was so cursed.  b';
Then my team spit the bit, big time. Much drinking ensued......
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 17, 2012, 08:01:18 am
 bd;0

yer killin me Ben!


nice pics there Scott!

Thunderstorms forecast all week, don't know when I'll get back up there...  0:0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 24, 2012, 15:04:58 pm
Went back this Saturday expecting to take up where I left off the past two weekends.  The fish had other plans.  The first place I went to I caught a grand total of 4 fish.  I fished my rear end off to catch those.  I left there in search of some easy fish where I always catch fish.  I didn't land a fish there.  I finished up where I always catch fish.  I managed to hook a large rock and get broken off.  I had to rerig and managed to drop my reading glasses in the river and had to go back to the car for a spare.  I had more fish come off in that one day than I have all summer. I finally caught 3 fish at that spot before heading to the car.  Once I got to the car things started improving.  I called a friend back home and found out that S. Carolina had soundly whipped Missouri and that perked me up considerably.  I then remembered that Ralph (ODG 3) graduated from Missouri and had some remorse for a few seconds, but I got over it.  On the way home I called TM to get an update on the Florida State Clemson game.  Both teams scored in the few minutes I was talking to him.  I then lost cell service for awhile.  When I got it back I called a buddy back home who is a SC fan, and he promised to call me whenever Florida State scored.  I couldn't take more than one swallow of coffee at a time before the phone would ring.   His color commentary was better than anything on the radio I'll guarantee you that.  It was a long day for a few fish, but it was worth it.  I caught 3 fish in the slot.

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-23-12002_zps4d84c1ed.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith9-23-12001_zps4f388fc4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 24, 2012, 15:46:00 pm
 :-* "It was a long day for a few fish....."
Glad it's not just me......
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on September 29, 2012, 18:36:43 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio&feature=share

I've been away from the water for a couple of weeks.  I was asked to sing in a wedding near Myrtle Beach, so my wife and I decided to go ahead and spend a few days at the beach. 

Decided to hit the Smith early this morning, but I didn't want to get out of bed.  I didn't make it to the river until sometime between 9:30 and 10:00.  Fishing was slow for the first hour and things started to pick up. 

First brown was very photo worthy, but about the time I snapped the picture my camera read "Card Error".  So I let him go and started to sort out the technical difficulties.

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Same fish different angle
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Saw a bunch of these in a tree while I was trying to untangle...ID???

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Is it a bad omen to catch a fish on a fly from someone else that you found in a tree limb???  I think so and you will begin to see why in a second.  Brown Zebra Midge

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Largemouth stogger rainbow

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Dougfish and I were meeting up around 2:30 to fish in town, so I started to head back to the truck at about 2:00.  As I'm walking along, I realize that my net is missing.  MOTHER TRUCKER...I just bought that net 4 days ago.  As I get back to the truck, a woman approaches me and ask if I will help her get a dead cat off of her front porch. 

Story went like this...the woman's words are in quotations.  "Hey, Hey, HEY!!!  Can you help me with something"  Help you with what?  "Get a dead cat off my porch, I can't get it"  What do you want me to do with it?  "Throw it out in the field I reckon"  What field?  "I keep tires on my porch and I went for a walk and went I got back the tires were laying on the cat and its neck was sticking up through the hole and it was dead..."  I phoned Doug and asked for back up...he was still a ways away, so I floored it and got the heck out of there.  Then, the bottom fell out and it rained and rained and rained some more.  Fishing sucked, but Doug said he was going to fish til dark.  I left early...

Oh and I hope you guys enjoyed the video...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 30, 2012, 07:28:17 am
It continued to suck. I got rained on some more and bagged it within the hour. This road warrior's patience was wore away. Reset manana.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 30, 2012, 11:56:06 am
At least ya'll went.  I had to work!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on October 02, 2012, 00:37:19 am
After getting smacked around the last two times by my bitch called Smith, I decided a little redemption was due. I'll show you mojo. Sunday fishing. And I'll park in the back of the church lot.  Just after services start. Hell, I'm a Baptist, sort of. The late guy to the service saw me putting on my waders. And stringing up. And beers are in the cooler in the truck, dude.  And hey Scott, dead cat lady was walking into town as I rolled by Rosemont....giddy up. The river is my church.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mkpL2YYKWAo/UGpk7IvoVYI/AAAAAAAADZw/YbYyErV63As/s640/007.JPG?gl=US)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IV7XLM1BUs8/UGpk-ho2FPI/AAAAAAAADaY/v1wwtfD0SO0/s640/013.JPG?gl=US)

I broke out my Home depot paint strainer and stuck it over my net to sample the stream. The choir sang. The reverend sermonized. Nothing. Almost nothing. A dreadful few little wigglys. It's that dreadful time on the torture chamber when nothing hatches with regularity, the terrestrials are going bye-bye, and the stunted little trouts are living off midges. F#%@ing midges. #20 zebras saved the day. I caught 'em. I missed 'em. I lost 'em. I caught 'em.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x8UmEcIumfk/UGpk8S7gdEI/AAAAAAAADaA/w2E0aN10myA/s640/009.JPG?gl=US)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7as-UA-sFUg/UGpk9vwoggI/AAAAAAAADaQ/QUYSEIsk8E0/s576/011.JPG?gl=US)

Moved upstream after a good to me riffle turned into slack water. Besides, I had to take a leak. Church property? I think I would be pushing my luck.
A recharge with a Devils Backbone beer (what else/) and some nearly burned leftover pizza (again, what else??) prepped me for round two.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nngNjdyk9YI/UGpk9fkCevI/AAAAAAAADaI/6m1s8l9mYdk/s512/010.JPG?gl=US)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QpDKoWm3XSA/UGpk_nEGaGI/AAAAAAAADao/5UR7kbbrja0/s640/015.JPG?gl=US)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UPn_3Ujj5zw/UGplBI74H6I/AAAAAAAADa4/WgDUb9gCaVE/s512/017.JPG?gl=US)
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I caught a few more. Missed a few more. Some big yellow mayflies started to come off and a yellow elk hair caddis got some fish before I called it quits. I knew that brown zebra midge that Scott found and fished was mine. I lost it in the same place the week before on my extreme suckiest day on the water. It had come full circle as I left the stream. Dangling from a hawthorn branch was a small nymph. Daring me to fish him. Next time bitch. Today was not to be tarnished. A dozen browns washed me clean.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AUiRg_FcKTQ/UGplBQUjaqI/AAAAAAAADbA/-qK1xzfBtTo/s800/019.JPG?gl=US)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on October 02, 2012, 17:59:45 pm
Copper johns can prove to be effective on the Smith if fished in fast moving riffles.  There is no way I would've left all that copper hanging in that tree limb.  We have some copper thieves around here that would give their right arms for that much copper wire.   :laugh:

Nice outing!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on October 02, 2012, 22:16:34 pm
Good job Doug - enjoyed your report.  Hell I may go back to fishing :o. Been deer hunting down here in NC and so far the skunk is smelling strong  :embarassed:  My wife reminds me that every year I start at zero and should not let last years success swell my head. b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 04, 2012, 10:53:47 am


I went yesterday afternoon, go t to the river by 2:30, the water was still up a little, the last 2 hours of generation were at 300 cfs so it was easy to wade. I started off throwing some big articulated flies in the big run and worked my way down stream. I was using the 6wt with a sink tip . The flies were getting deep at some point I switched to a big Nut Butter (http://hatchesmagazine.com/blogs/Hatches/2012/02/29/nut-butter-by-matt-grajewski/) and had a big fish follow and strike but no hook up. That follow was pretty exciting, just to see a big spotted brown chase after the fly got me excited and I cast with renewed vigor. I worked my way back up and by this time the water had dropped all the way. I hit some of the spots on the way up to the bridge. Went around the right side of the Island and worked the bridge pool with several big flies. Then I worked my way down the left channel swinging the big stuff. I thought about going back down along the island, but it was 6:30 and I had enough disappointment for the day.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/100312-1.jpg)
maybe I need to be tossing a big crayfish pattern?

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/100312-2.jpg)

The water was still stained from the rain, I had really wanted to get up there Tuesday, but that just didn't work out. It was partly sunny, for the most part, but clouded up later in the evening.  I think I'll try this section with big flies again if conditions are favorable.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on October 13, 2012, 23:27:57 pm
Fished upstream right after lunch today.  I actually got up a little earlier than normal today and arrived at the Sheetz shortly after 1:00.   I caught about 10 out of the mirror pool in  about an hour or two.  I would catch a few and then it would die for a little while.  When the sun got behind the hills the fish lost interest and so did I.  I rolled down to Basset and fished for about 30 minutes and caught a couple more and that was it.  I left Bassett around six and was home before eleven which was a record for me.  The biggest fish I caught was twelve inches and I was glad to get him.

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/smith10-13-12011.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/smith10-13-12010.jpg)

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(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/smith10-13-12001.jpg)

I stopped on the way through Bassett and actually took a scenery picture!

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/smith10-13-12012.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on October 14, 2012, 09:09:46 am
 'c; Another hit and run spankage by Ben. You are the man!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on October 14, 2012, 17:18:54 pm
I should've went to the Smith this afternoon.  Nice reportage...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on October 20, 2012, 23:31:07 pm
I went back for what I thought would be a good day.  I was wrong.  I am reaching the conclusion that it is now officially midge time and I am not much on midges.  I fished upstream and caught a few.  I rode by the Mirror Pool parking lot and spoke to Keith as he was rigging up.  I went downstream a few miles and caught a few more including 1 rainbow.  I think I am ready for duck season.  Wait, that is over a month away.  What the heck they are pretty in their spawning colors.  These are the three biggest and they aren't real big at that.

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith10-20-2012005.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith10-20-2012004.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/Smith10-20-2012001.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on October 21, 2012, 07:42:38 am
They are damn pretty! And I've been going blind tying midges.......
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 21, 2012, 09:24:24 am


With chores done and daylight left, I took to dog up to the river.
I got there around 5, not much time to fish, Ben tried to be social,
I cut him short. Sorry Ben. I fished tilll dark, there were fish rising and
Sulfurs, Midges and Rusty Spinners were working!

(http://brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102012-1.jpg)

(http://brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102012-2.jpg)

(http://brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102012-3.jpg)

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(http://brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102012-9.jpg)

(http://brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102012-10.jpg)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on October 21, 2012, 15:58:38 pm
Keith, I was in a hurry myself!  I was just being polite.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Phil on October 21, 2012, 16:36:02 pm
Mr. Ben 5X -- Maybe you could take a hint from Keith's pics of trout, the way he handles 'em, and stop doing the complete Death Squeeze on every fish you catch at the Smith. Jist sayin,  dude.....
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on October 21, 2012, 18:21:57 pm
Quote from: Phil on October 21, 2012, 16:36:02 pm
Mr. Ben 5X -- Maybe you could take a hint from Keith's pics of trout, the way he handles 'em, and stop doing the complete Death Squeeze on every fish you catch at the Smith. Jist sayin,  dude.....


Phil - Are you serious?  My goodness...

Ben - Keep posting the pics man. 

Keith - Nice pics!  I would've met up with you this afternoon on the Smith, but I wanted to try out some waters I haven't seen in a few months. 

'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on October 21, 2012, 19:50:34 pm
Phil, my fish are out of the water 5 or 10 seconds tops.  I have cleared my fish handling with the biologist.  I frankly don't give a rat's rear end  whether you or anybody else likes it or not.  Go catch a fish and show us how it's done.  Better yet go catch one on the Smith and post a picture.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on October 21, 2012, 20:27:27 pm
5X I was fishing below you last week and saw 58 dead fish floating by................maybe when you learn to catch a few you can learn how to handle them..........then teach me how its done. bd;0 bd;0 bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 22, 2012, 10:46:50 am

I wanted to go to the SoHo on Sunday, but it just wasn't going to happen.
So I took Sally up to the Smith in the afternoon, I even tied up a half dozen
special flies. I think the dog may have enjoyed the trip more than I did, what a difference
a day can make. I got some fish to rise but missed most of  'em. The bug weren't as
prolific as there were on Saturday. Maybe my new ties weren't the ticket, but I threw
a lot of other flies as well, go figure. Glad I brought along some PBR!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102112-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102112-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102112-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102112-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102112-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/10/102112-6.jpg)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Aka on October 22, 2012, 11:46:09 am
Cut and paste from another forum?  ;D

Quote from: Woolly Bugger on October 22, 2012, 10:46:50 am

I wanted to go to the SoHo on Sunday, but it just wasn't going to happen.
So I took Sally up to the Smith in the afternoon, I even tied up a half dozen
special flies. I think the dog may have enjoyed the trip more than I did, what a difference
a day can make. I got some fish to rise but missed most of  'em. The bug weren't as
prolific as there were on Saturday. Maybe my new ties weren't the ticket, but I threw
a lot of other flies as well, go figure. Glad I brought along some PBR!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/102112-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/102112-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/102112-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/102112-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/102112-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/102112-6.jpg)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 22, 2012, 12:49:19 pm
my bay bad, I left out the month in the url and then got distracted.... ran some errands and then saw that I hadn't fixed it,,
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Transylwader on October 22, 2012, 12:59:53 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on October 22, 2012, 12:49:19 pm
my bay, I left out the month in the url and then got distracted.... ran some errends and then saw that I hadn't fixed it,,

Bollocks, I need to call the dude at Krankies and tell em you can only be served half pints and after 3PM daily.
BTW, this is the second time I have opened this thread. I have seen a vast improvement in 5X's trout handling skills. Bravo mate, asshats like me can no longer shun you :o
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on October 23, 2012, 09:55:13 am
Quote from: Phil on October 21, 2012, 16:36:02 pm
Mr. Ben 5X -- Maybe you could take a hint from Keith's pics of trout, the way he handles 'em, and stop doing the complete Death Squeeze on every fish you catch at the Smith. Jist sayin,  dude.....


n!n  Just in time for the return of the endless smites.

<<<<
Note my death grip.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 10, 2012, 23:00:31 pm


http://youtu.be/hgI8bta-7aw (http://youtu.be/hgI8bta-7aw)

11/10/1975


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/111012-10.jpg)


nothing much going on lately, took the god out for a spell, caught some fish
drank some beer..


here's some more from Friday...


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/110912-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/110912-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/110912-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/110912-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/110912-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/110912-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/11/110912-7.jpg)

/'/ -0-



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on November 10, 2012, 23:39:34 pm
Glad to see you work some magic on the Smith.  Depending on how things go tomorrow I may find my way there in the afternoon.  Did you see any BWOs?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 11, 2012, 00:12:33 am
Tiny BWOs size extremely small
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on November 16, 2012, 11:11:03 am
WTF with the river levels? 

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/va/nwis/uv?site_no=02072000 (http://waterdata.usgs.gov/va/nwis/uv?site_no=02072000)

I know divers were inspecting the dam, but that was supposed to finish up last week.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: OldDominionAngler on November 16, 2012, 17:25:35 pm
Ah, Great Lakes.  The Oktoberfest is most excellent and the Porter is even better.   Looks like a good day to me.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on November 21, 2012, 13:19:22 pm
The Smith started off yesterday kicking my butt.  Rafts of tiny olive duns were covering the water, browns feeding BUT not on the duns.  After ~ 1.5 hours, finally things got dialed in and trout started taking a few duns.  Day ended well.  It was one of the best hatches of the tiny critters that I have seen in some time.  The Smith is an ideal water to polish the skills.

I saw a lot of beaver activity in the small seep/standing water that is next to the tracks, immediately below the mirror plant.  They may make that their home-base for a while.

Happy turkey day!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Beetle on November 21, 2012, 15:17:25 pm
Muddie,
When rafts of tiny olive duns are on the water, your best bet is to start chucking rapalas.   Jis sayin

Glad you had a decent trip and hope you have a great Thanksgiving.  Call me next time!

'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on November 21, 2012, 15:36:56 pm
I shall let ya'll take care of the river for awhile.  I'm gonna be shooting stuff!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on November 21, 2012, 16:50:49 pm
It will be a couple of weeks before I get back to the river.  We have 3 deer in the freezer, but on the quest for a couple more.  Off to the hills with the entire family plus the pooch - for the traditional Thanksgiving meal of squirrel, squirrel gravy, and taters, then hunting for a few days.  I think the tiny olive hatch will last.  I remember seeing it after Christmas.  Remind me that you want to go Beetle.  Can we drag Flats from his lair? 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Beetle on November 21, 2012, 17:08:31 pm
We are unlikely to drag Flats away from bottles and diapers but we can certainly try.   Look forward to it!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 21, 2012, 23:12:19 pm
Fun but frustrating with those super small bugs. The last couple of times I've been up there late I the day the bugs and risers have been sparse. Glad you got out and  caught a few
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on December 16, 2012, 17:40:05 pm
Dougfish and I met up at the mirror plant at 9 a.m. anxious to suit up and hit the water.  It was about 36 degrees when I left the house, but was closer to freezing down on the river.  We both assumed that it would be another hour or so before things started to pick up. 

Around the 10:30 mark the sun started to hit the river and the bugs started flying.  Sort of like dust floating in the air through a sun glazed window.  Tiny midges...Oddly enough, the fish just were rising.  Doug and I tried everything from tiny griffith's knats to streamers.  Nothing!

About 1 p.m.  Doug left and said he knew when he had been beaten.  Me on the other hand, I was tempted to catch a fish.  At this point I had made it back to the trestle pool.  Fish was rising sparsely and I tried my best.

Around 2:30, olive's started to come off the water in abundance.  This last maybe 10 min...After a long hard day on the river, I managed 2 fish along with another 2 that came unbuttoned.  If you were part of Big J's Christmas Swap, you will get a sample of the fly I caught the 2 on...

two measly pictures to show for it.

[attach=1]

Same fish....
[attach=2]

Until next time, chalk this one up as a win for the Smith.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 17, 2012, 06:48:56 am
Ugh. A lovely waste of gas.  :;!
Hope you plugged some more venison later.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on December 17, 2012, 09:02:26 am
Quote from: Dougfish on December 17, 2012, 06:48:56 am
Ugh. A lovely waste of gas.  :;!
Hope you plugged some more venison later.


Now aren't you glad you went brook trout fishing last weekend   ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Beetle on December 17, 2012, 09:37:34 am
I had a really good trip on Friday.   

I drove up to the Smith and kept on going to my bird hunting destination.   ;D




Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 23, 2012, 22:18:44 pm


Hit the Smith for an hour before dark on the way to REI in Greensboro for some last minute Christmas Shopping...

[attach=1]
not granddad, but better than nothing ...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on December 23, 2012, 23:01:50 pm
On your way to Greensboro from Winston?  Not sure how the Smith is on the way but... bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Trout Chaser on December 23, 2012, 23:54:19 pm
Nice detour Wooly!!  When did Greensboro get an REI?

TC
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 24, 2012, 00:15:48 am
It's not really out of the way when trout are involved...

[attach=1]
At 3:15

Honey, I'm taking the big dog and going to pick up a few items at REI, I'm going to stop by the river on the way.
They don't close 'till 9, but I'll be home by 7:30

Okay....

Fished from 4:30 to 5:45, got home at 7:45...

REI's been there for three or four years now I think....

The Shops at Friendly,where the Apple Store is, just down the road from Friendly Shopping Center,
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 24, 2012, 07:35:43 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on December 24, 2012, 00:15:48 am
It's not really out of the way when trout are involved...


Quote of the week. Good going, chief!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on December 24, 2012, 15:24:42 pm
nice little detour. you were only a couple miles from my place. I have to stay away from REI for my bank account's sake
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: benben reincarnated on December 24, 2012, 18:09:45 pm
Nice play Woolly.  I've done a little bit of detour fishing before too, but not quite of that magnitude.


Quote from: gamatt53 on December 24, 2012, 15:24:42 pm
nice little detour. you were only a couple miles from my place. I have to stay away from REI for my bank account's sake


I can walk to one from work, talk about trouble...and not to mention there is an Whorvis store across the street from that.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 29, 2012, 17:13:46 pm


http://youtu.be/_J38r6C26LA (http://youtu.be/_J38r6C26LA)

Lamenting the fact that I'm too old to fish in the cold with young
whippersnappers, I decided to take the dog up to the river and see
what was hatching.  I knew that the rain from the previous day
would add a stain to the river but I didn't expect it to be chocolate.
There were no bugs in the air, nada, zilch, nothing, not even a midge.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/12/smithr.jpg)

Interactive Version! (http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=cd0fbcc7-a8e6-44c4-a31b-4bcb38f0cba2&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=422.194412978413&d=-1.20919957615615:-1.20919957615615:-1.20919957615615&p=0:0&t=False)


I dug down deep into my pack and found an articulated Sex Dungeon,
which was not much smaller than most of upper Smith River brown trout.
It was big black and nasty, tied up by a former BRFFF member, Ditch
Monkey, who is now off on another one of life's adventures, snow skiing.
The monkey boy must have been short of lead eyes, 'cause his Sex
Dungeon is more of a floater than the pattern is intended to be.  I swung
the fly into the runs and threw it up against the bank and stripped it back.
It took a little while but I finally got a trout to explode on it. I was so freaked
out that I may have stripped the fly right out of its mouth.   Encouraged that
I might actually hook one of these trout, I continued to toss the streamer.
Five more fish blew up on that fly. Maybe the hooks were too big for them,
but it was fun just watching them go nuts for the big fly. I worked the short
stretch of my favorite water, then drank a beer and started over again.

It was getting late and I wanted to hit a run on the lower river at dusk during
falling water, so I pulled out and we headed on downstream. It was just after
sunset when I started wading down to the run. I was freaked out by the lack
of water, they are now, for some unknown reason, turning the water off to a dribble.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2012/12/smithrflow.jpg)

Despite the full moon, it was impossible to see the fly hit the water and I wasn't
sure how close I was getting to the far bank, but I hoped that I was close enough.
I worked the run and came up empty. That low water was most likely the problem.

The next day I was still thinking about those fish and decided to go back for some
more punishment that the Smith River can serve up so well. I got away much later
than had hoped too and I had to stop at the Citgo to pick up some barley pops.

The water had cleared and was back down to its normal low level, the sky was cloudy
and it was perfect conditions for a BWO hatch. All I saw were a few midges. I hate
nymphing this water and I reluctantly tied on a #22 bwo emerger trailed by a #22 RS2. 
Worked the water, nothing. Fished till five when the water was expected to come up
and hit the trail. Another Tar Heel in the parking lot picked off four fish on a stonefly
pattern, in the riffles upstream from where I was, go figure. I should have hit the
lower river instead.... Next time!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Beetle on December 29, 2012, 17:39:49 pm
Sounds like the Sex Dungeon needs a stinger hook trailing behind.   Jis sayin....
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on December 29, 2012, 17:42:52 pm
The weather forecast changed a bit today and i thought about trying the smith this afternoon.  I'm glad I stayed close to home. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 29, 2012, 17:49:17 pm
Quote from: Beetle on December 29, 2012, 17:39:49 pm
Sounds like the Sex Dungeon needs a stinger hook trailing behind.   Jis sayin....


stinger, xtra sharp, already included...


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: _Fish_Pimp on December 30, 2012, 01:59:35 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on December 29, 2012, 17:49:17 pm
Quote from: Beetle on December 29, 2012, 17:39:49 pm
Sounds like the Sex Dungeon needs a stinger hook trailing behind.   Jis sayin....


stinger, xtra sharp, already included...





Tie anothernnn' on it!  <-;:
the more hooks the better!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 30, 2012, 08:41:11 am
"The next day I was still thinking about those fish and decided to go back for some
more punishment that the Smith River can serve up so well."

I'm due to go back for my continued punishment, also. b'; :;!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on December 30, 2012, 20:55:41 pm
I went out for some Smith River punishment today, only because I couldn't stand to sit in the house.  I decided on the way that I would fish in town.  Most people I know would consider me crazy for getting out in upper 30 degree weather with 15 mph winds just to catch some fish.  If they only knew!  When I got in town, I couldn't find a place to park.  They stocked the lower section of the Smith a little over a week ago, but people were still out trying to put some food on the table.  I rolled my first loop at 2:30 and was back home by 4:45.  I caught two stockers and called it quits.  I only wore one pair of thin socks and my feet would beginning to burn from the cold.  No pictures because my battery was dead, but you guys don't care about stockers...neither do I...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on December 31, 2012, 13:51:26 pm
I also spent about 2 hours on the lower river yesterday and got skunked. No insect activity whatsoever, water was better than it had been lately but still pretty low. I did happen to see a crayfish and a dink fleeting towards the dam. After 2 hours of nothing and 30+ mph wind gust i cut my losses and headed home to drink my misery away! b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on January 04, 2013, 18:28:55 pm
Another day on the Smith....fished the upper and caught 3, one decent sized, nothing to go on and on about, just good to get out for a while. First time out since the birth of my daughter 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on January 04, 2013, 18:30:59 pm
BTW, thats no kung fu grip on the last fish, just making sure he didnt slip away! ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on January 04, 2013, 22:47:56 pm
That first brown is nice!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 04, 2013, 22:56:17 pm
Good on you. Glad you got out. My turn on the bitch tomorrow afternoon.  :-*
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on January 05, 2013, 00:43:42 am
top of the pools under the white water........stoneflies
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on January 07, 2013, 00:31:57 am
A couple more hours on the Smith today....3 of the typical 8/9 inch browns, not even worth posting pics. Most interesting event was on my way back to the car, i happen to see a large amount of activity under a tree on the far side of the river....instead of seeing the large rock infront of me and i took a swim! Brrrrrr
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on January 21, 2013, 17:58:17 pm
Woke up at normal time this morning even though I was off of work.  My body is a finely tuned machine, at least when it comes to what time it is in the morning.  I initially planned to play golf today, but with the recent snow all of the local courses were closed or wouldn't allow carts. 

Wind was in the forecast, but for the most part it was calm outside.  They were supposed to generate from 6 a.m. until 8 a.m., but at 9:15 a.m. the Bassett gauge was showing close to 800 cfs.  So I sat here on the couch waiting for USGS to update.  At 11:30, the Bassett gauge was still reporting a 9:15 a.m. level.  The Philpott guage was showing 60 cfs, so I took a chance and headed out.

When I got to the river, I was pleasantly surprised.  Water was a bit high, but it was off color.

[attach=1]

I decided to bounce around, "hot spotting" if you will.  I felt just like a "baiter".  I saw maybe 2 midges and 1 winter stone fly.  Bug activity was zip.  I didn't see the first rise, so I decided to fish with gas (AKA, nymphs). 

I moved my way into an area that I knew didn't see much pressure.  People fish it, but not like other areas of the river.  I tied on a winter stone fly pattern to use as an indicator and first cast a little brown came up from the depths and nailed it.  A few moments later about 6 feet to my right, a violent rise grabbed my attention.  It was one those places were you wouldn't expect a fish to be.  No cover, no nothing.  I decided to drift my winter stone fly by him, "WHAM!"

Little fella, but still a joy to catch.

[attach=2]

[attach=3]

People throw the most random stuff in this river.

[attach=4]

Really?  A remote?

I only was out from about 12 until 3.  It was good to get out instead of being shut up in the house.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on January 21, 2013, 18:20:27 pm
At least you got out!  I am about to die to get up there.  I'll just look at your pictures so I can remember what fish look like.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 21, 2013, 18:59:53 pm
 bd;0 bd;0 bd;0
I salute you. Glad you did not suffer through the suckage that was my day............
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 30, 2013, 08:11:19 am
Easy big fella. Is that the repaired rod? 
On the bright side, the days are slowly getting longer. -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 30, 2013, 11:08:19 am
Now that Battenkill is new to me, it was a 'presentation' rod and sold at an estate. It had never been fished before.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 30, 2013, 11:51:44 am
No wonder you were careful! Sweet.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 03, 2013, 22:43:50 pm


http://youtu.be/XdHnGyU1yJQ (http://youtu.be/XdHnGyU1yJQ)

Took the dog up to the field for a run, can't believe what a wind tunnel
the Smith can be. Got down to the corner pool and tried the dry fly thing
for a while, decided to see how the boo would handle a small streamer. Worked
fine and the fish liked it too. Just caught a couple and the we moved upstream,
called the dog and scared up some young guy down in the river, he had managed 8
or nine, he was headed on down stream and we hiked up to the upper end of the field.
Couldn't entice anymore fish, so we split and hit another section of the river.
A brief show shower on the way back to the car. Brief hike in to the lower section.
Tied on a new articulated streamer, too much marabou, fly wouldn't sink at first
and I wasn't thrilled with it's movement, but that didn't matter to bib boy, grabbed
the hell out of it and shot off downstream in the current, had to run him down, and no
I wasn't fishing to boo, put that away and fished the Cortland 8' 6wt. My small trout
net was useless. I managed to get a hand on the fish and get a few photos before releasing
him. The may be the same fish that I caught last year, the jaw has a bit more of a kype now.
Made my day, fished the rest of the run but nobody else was interested.


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-12.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-13.jpg)


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-10.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/020313-11.jpg)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: mecnc on February 03, 2013, 23:13:02 pm
Nice fish WB. 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on February 03, 2013, 23:19:00 pm
That is a very nice brown.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Trout Chaser on February 03, 2013, 23:21:54 pm
A mighty fine Brown!   'c;
TC
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on February 03, 2013, 23:40:38 pm
Pretty fish, Keith!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Rod Champion on February 04, 2013, 00:03:20 am
Nice fish Keith.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on February 04, 2013, 08:39:24 am
 bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on February 04, 2013, 08:57:21 am
Mighty fine.  -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Jfey on February 04, 2013, 10:52:12 am
Note to self, add too much marabou to my streamers... Nice fish WB!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on February 04, 2013, 11:19:46 am
Damn.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 04, 2013, 14:57:31 pm
Just checked my pics, and this is the same bad body that I caught 10 months, 24 days ago. Glad to see he's doing so well.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on February 04, 2013, 15:17:22 pm
    yelp !! look at the gill cover how its scratched from nymphing those gravels.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on February 11, 2013, 00:04:15 am
I went to Winston Saturday to the show.    I finally got to meet Flats and Beetle.  They were both gentleman.  Beetle could fish water in his knee boots that I couldn't fish out of a boat.  Enjoyed it boys!  It was a hoot watching TM tying flies and giving everybody watching inferiority complexes.  It was even more amazing when you realize most people his age are sitting on the front porch in rockers watching their great grand children dig up flowers and stuff.  Lying and tying Saturday night was fun and I got Papal Dispensation from Peewee to fish his and Dean's private water Sunday.  I headed to Martinsville Sunday armed with 2 of Peewee's 15 pound flies.  I arrived at 1:00 and fished until 2 and caught two fish.  Neither one monsters, but they were first my Smith browns of the year.  More important they were my first wild fish caught on my new rod that Ralph (ODG3) made for me.  For all you people who don't know Ralph, he is a gentleman and a scholar and one of the best fisherman you will ever run into.  He is also apparently a master craftsman and a member of the Notre Dame football team.  I only fished for about an hour because it was cold enough that I was having trouble feeling my fingers on my left hand from stripping line and I am too old for that mess.

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/smith2-10-2013003_zpscad17006.jpg)

(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/JBCLMC/smith2-10-2013001_zpscfb9593b.jpg)

I really enjoyed this weekend.  I met Snag Saturday and Fish Pymp.  Saturday night I saw a bunch of people I haven't seen in a while.  I enjoyed seeing all of ya"ll.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on February 11, 2013, 09:03:05 am
I'd be happy with that.  From my understanding, the Smith has perfected the art of skunking people in the winter.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on February 11, 2013, 09:37:24 am
 'c; 'c; 'c; Good times.

How about some rod pics?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on February 11, 2013, 20:24:32 pm
Doug, I'll show you the rod sometime.  If I posted pictures of it every one would want one.   Ralph is working hard as the dickens at this time and he now has one other thing he has to keep up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Trout Maharishi on February 11, 2013, 20:51:22 pm
Ralph is too busy looking for his girlfriend, seems she had disappeared of something like that! Go Irish!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on February 11, 2013, 22:07:16 pm
Nice work!  Sounds like the show was a good outing as well.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 16, 2013, 23:13:43 pm


http://youtu.be/YFabNBveHOk (http://youtu.be/YFabNBveHOk)

After reading BryanM's post about his old dog, on the Drake, I wanted to spend another day on the river with my, soon to be 10 year old, aussie lab mix, Sally. She always gives me the look of disappointment when I tell her to stay as I'm going out the door, but she perks right up when I say, "Let's go!" She rides well in the car, but once we stop, she's ready to get going, and patiently waits for me to gear up so we can begin the hike to the river.

Sloppy snow was the forecast, it was in the mid-thirty's, so no chance of it sticking around.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-6.jpg)
Silly dog got to the river and waded out and started to lay down in the stream, but as soon as her belly got wet she changed her mind.

This should be good.
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-2.jpg)

Threw streamers for a couple of hours. Nothing. Saw 2 BWOs on the water, both got eaten.
Snow showers blew downstream on and off.
Poured a sip for all good dogs, and those who've passed on.
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-5.jpg)

Gave up on the upper river and moved on down to dogtown.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-13.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-11.jpg)

Have to leave Sally in the car down here. Made quick work of it.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/2/021613-4.jpg) 


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on February 19, 2013, 21:00:37 pm
How'd you like that happy ending (the beer)?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 19, 2013, 21:41:44 pm
Spendy but well worth it!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 16, 2013, 23:55:42 pm
Finally felt like I could get out in the river for a spell today. Had some difficulty getting the boot on with the wrapped up ankle and all. Parked at one of the closest river access points and hobbled on down to the water. Tossed a small streamer for a while then switched to half a chicken size. Wham, nice bend in the six weight sure felt good. Great fish for the smith probably went 14 inches or better. No pic so you'll just have to imaging a richly colored and large spotted brown with a huge yellow articulated fly hanging out of its mouth. Celebrated with a Bell's Hopslam!

Thunder drove me off the river.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on March 17, 2013, 16:48:45 pm
here is a few of the better fish  today
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P3100054_zps9dfcc5a0.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P3170066_zps50e27e50.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P3170064_zpsa3baff33.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P3170062_zpsfbb278f4.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P3170060_zpsa75cfba4.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P3170058_zpse751d826.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P3170057_zps55d12f85.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on March 17, 2013, 17:32:07 pm
You enjoy rubbing in, don't you Peewee? bd;0 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: _Fish_Pimp on March 17, 2013, 17:53:54 pm
Quote from: 22midge on March 17, 2013, 16:48:45 pm
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P3170066_zps50e27e50.jpg)



maybe the smiff is worth the gas... :-X

nice fish!  bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on March 17, 2013, 18:37:01 pm
Pretty impressive!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: flyrod on March 17, 2013, 18:40:37 pm
Hey Smoke, I see ya got the fly line on right :).  Good catch, I think the new bugs are working.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on March 17, 2013, 19:06:47 pm
yea flyrod I can make cast 15 feet long now so I dont have to sneak up so close.The top and the bottom of the run had all the fish today.I did find another target at the second spot I fished today...flouro never stopped him.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 17, 2013, 20:39:40 pm
Damn that a little piggy
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 18, 2013, 08:04:13 am
You wore them out on that big stonefly!  bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on March 30, 2013, 16:11:30 pm
Weatherman was calling for Spring weather today, so Dougfish and I planned a trip to the Smith.  It felt a little more like spring today!  We met up around 8:30 and made our way across the fields.  A few weeks ago, Doug started hacking away at a trail along side the river and I helped extend it another 50 feet or so today. 

Doug wanted you guys to believe he did something this morning...you can faintly see the trail...

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We started making our way down to the mirror pool around 10 a.m., keeping a close eye on the water checking for fish activity.  Once we got down to the trussle pool, I said it doesn't look like we will be fishing dries.  No sooner than I finished running my mouth, midges filled the air with a few caddis and the fish started rising!

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Dinks, but they didn't come easy.  We had to work for them.

All in all, it was a good day to get out and we accomplished what we came for.  Extending the trail and catching a few browns...with the exception of Doug's one rainbow...

Until next time...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on March 30, 2013, 17:31:27 pm
I've got to get back up there!  Fish away so I can at least see pictures 'c;!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 30, 2013, 17:56:24 pm
Quote from: 5xTippett on March 30, 2013, 17:31:27 pm
I've got to get back up there!  Fish away so I can at least see pictures 'c;!

Some dumbass forgot his camera today. The 10" rainbow I caught was the wildest looking bow I've seen on the Smiff. A well established holdover or a wild fish? I know they are reproducing, at least limitedly.
First Yellow Swallowtail Butterfly of the year, two. Wildflowers are starting to bust.

Point your nose north, Ben!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on March 30, 2013, 21:10:42 pm
Glad to see you got Doug out  :D

Now work on getting Bill out fishing....That's a nearly impossible task.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on March 30, 2013, 21:17:48 pm
heading up tomorrow...... get your butt in the wind 5X maybe we can find a fish hungry enough to eat sompin.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on April 06, 2013, 22:00:30 pm
I met up with another Smith River junkie this morning to tie flies for an hour or so before heading to the river.  This area gets crazy two times a year when the race comes to town.  Some real crazies pass through, but the most entertaining are those from out of state that do not have the lottery.  I stopped at the store to get a sundrop and waited in line for a guy to buy $140 worth of scratch offs...sheeesh....

I'm not sure what this NS was running, but this train had 8 engines just in the front..man on man...I've always sort of been facinated with trains. 

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Made it down to the river about 1:30 p.m. and fished an area frequented by others, but completely new to me.  Awesome looking water, but the fish were uncooperative...

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The fish were quiet this afternoon despite the bug activity.  There weren't any real hatches to speak of until about 5:30, but bugs continuously filled the air along with the occasional hendrickson and even a few sulphurs...

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I spent most of the afternoon watching and waiting.  The fish were not active today even sub-surface.  Water was up and off-color and water temps made it up to 52 degrees.

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Around 5:15, I started to notice a little sippage and saw a guy upstream from bring one in....  I had a really hard time finding out what they were feeding on, but managed a couple on a sulphur comparadun. 

Around 6 p.m., a remarkable caddis hatch started.  The fish began to feed on the emerging caddis while I just continued to throw anything and everything that was remotely close to the winged adults.  Finally, I decided to fish smart and tie on #22 CDC emerger and started hooking up in short fashion.  Eager little farts!

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Until next time...
   
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 07, 2013, 07:01:21 am
Good stuff Scott! And stellar photography. too! 'c; 'c; 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on April 07, 2013, 08:12:10 am
Nice shots.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on April 07, 2013, 23:08:37 pm
Very nice, glad to see some decent hatches coming off
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 08, 2013, 18:42:47 pm
cool Smith reportage, but now that the evening hatches have started, Dominion power is generation right on top of the hatch b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on April 08, 2013, 19:14:40 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 08, 2013, 18:42:47 pm
cool Smith reportage, but now that the evening hatches have started, Dominion power is generation right on top of the hatch b';


I called today trying to plan an evening on the river after work, but they are generating 1 p.m. to 8 p.m. all week...smh
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on April 20, 2013, 22:09:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnydFmqHuVo

You can always tell when the fishing is getting good in other places when the "Smith-Continued" thread almost makes it down to page 2. 

Today, TU teamed up with Gateway for a spring clean up.  We all met up around 8 a.m. and shot the breeze over a lite breakfast and then started the trash removal around 9 and finished up around 12. 

A Smith River fogy and I had planned ahead of time to fish after the clean up, but torrential rainfall on Friday had Towne Creek blow to smitherines.  It baffles the fool out of me how much mud that creek will dump into the Smith.  We decided to try our luck up near the dam.  When I was suiting up, I noticed I was getting a headache.  I decided to press on anyway!

Beautiful stretches of water, but the wind and the sun were brutal...

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The fish were very active this afternoon and we started connecting early.

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Flub...

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After a couple of hours, the sun started to dip behind the mountain, but the wind was still howling.  At this point my head was killing me and I had to call it quits.  It was a good thing because about that time, 2 guys came dragging their canoe through the shallow riffles and tossing spinners through the pools we were fishing.

One for Doug!

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Longest and most difficult drive home ever.  I almost lost my cookies a few times.  As soon as I got home I took a hot shower and took some pills accompanied with a three hour nap.  I'm still not top notch, but I feel like a million bucks compared to earlier.

We accomplished what we set out for.  Preservation!  Get out and enjoy the river!!

Until next time...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 20, 2013, 23:56:01 pm
I came up there for a bit, fished the muddy part, tossed big streamers, didn't see a fish...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 21, 2013, 07:15:41 am
Glad you got some fishing in Scott. Fogey? Shut your mouth!
Silene virginica, BTW. Fire Pink.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on April 21, 2013, 07:44:07 am
Nice ID doug.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 21, 2013, 09:24:46 am


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-1.jpg)
greeting committee

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-2.jpg)
lunch break

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-3.jpg)
tasty

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-4.jpg)
yup, it was muddy alright...

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/4/042013-10.jpg)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 06, 2013, 10:46:25 am


planned to fish the SoHo Saturday, even left the party early and set the alarm for 5:00

http://youtu.be/6JTzO_md0b8 (http://youtu.be/6JTzO_md0b8)
Friday Night Party...

woke up at eight, wtf? oh, weekday alarm, silly rabbit

baked a pie in the morning, headed to the river in the afternoon, expected some rain and high stained water took the full sink line.
when I got there it was cloudy, clear water, sulfurs hatching and fish rising, banged the banks, moved a few good fish, drank a few beers...
shoulda gone today!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/5/050513-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/5/050513-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/5/050513-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/5/050513-4.jpg)

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(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/5/050513-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/5/050513-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/5/050513-8.jpg)


Next time I'll make sure I've got a floating line with me...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on May 06, 2013, 12:06:52 pm
Glad to see some bugs out!  I was at a graduation.  I will get up there soon.  I don't own any sinking line, so I won;t have that decision to make.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on May 06, 2013, 13:58:45 pm
I haven't been up there in way too long. Water looking good
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on May 06, 2013, 14:16:31 pm
Keith, If I didn't know better, I would swear a professional photographer followed you around. 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on May 30, 2013, 12:19:55 pm
Anyone think this 24/7 generation will wash some of that rock snot out of the upper Smith? Love fishing up there but that shit is ridiculous!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 30, 2013, 15:32:36 pm
Quote from: gonephishin' on May 30, 2013, 12:19:55 pm
Anyone think this 24/7 generation will wash some of that rock snot out of the upper Smith? Love fishing up there but that shit is ridiculous!


I think the flows will wash some away but be prepared for a bloom once it stops...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on May 30, 2013, 15:52:27 pm
It's always thick above Town's Creek during the summer!  I think Keith hit the nail on the head.  However, the generation has to stop before we find out! >:D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on May 30, 2013, 17:19:27 pm
Hmm looks like I finally may get to float the Smith on my bote if they run water on the weekends...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 30, 2013, 19:03:15 pm
the ran it last weekend...

don't know how long it will last...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on May 31, 2013, 23:40:58 pm
Boys the Smith is open for business this weekend, no gen on sat/sun, however Monday starting up at 10am thru 10pm, that was all the recording gave us...thru Monday. Maybe we can have some less slick wading in the upper reaches for the weekend. Will be interesting to see how the fishing is after a 24/7 run all week....see ya out there! /'/
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 03, 2013, 10:22:50 am


http://youtu.be/FKnf3_0xG-o (http://youtu.be/FKnf3_0xG-o)

The Smith has been unfishable for the last couple of weeks as the recent rains forced the dam to run 24/7, but when I checked the flow I realized that they had shut it off this weekend. Saturday was booked, so I made plans to fish the sulfur hatch on Sunday. Despite the weather I took off at 4 and drove the hour and a half to the river. I was pretty much a frog strangler on the drive up, had to take some mphs off the drive to avoid hydroplaning on the highway where the water pooled.  But as I approached my destination the rain slacked off as I expected.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-3.jpg)

I rigged up the boo in anticipation of a decent sulfur hatch. Walking on down to the river I noticed that Philpott had harvested his first batch of hay. The weather was unsettled and thunder boomed in the distance.  When I got to the river there were bugs in the air and the river was slightly stained. A few fish were rising. I managed to get this little guy on a long drift from the top of the pool all the way around the bend, and as I muttered, "damn" in exasperation the fish hit the fly! A few more fish were rising, but the water was getting muddy and rising a bit. That storm must have dumped a lot of rain up on Town Creek. 

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-7.jpg)

Then the hatch subsided and I thought about leaving, but stayed to see if the evening would bring on another round of sulfurs. The rain came back as the bugs started to come off in good numbers. But the fish weren't looking up through the coffee colored water, but I wasn't ready to give up. I thought that at any moment the fish would begin to rise, I waited until dusk, still nothing happened.  But I enjoyed the afternoon standing in the rain casting dry flies to fish that wouldn't rise. I enjoyed watching the bugs and the birds.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-8.jpg)

On the walk out I saw this snapper wondering out of place, perhaps she had laid eggs nearby. I'm not too familiar with the habits of turtles.


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/060213-9.jpg)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 03, 2013, 13:02:45 pm
M-F, 10AM - 10PM generation.  b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 04, 2013, 20:36:03 pm
OK, I'm stupid enough to hit early tomorrow for a few hours.  ;D
-0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 05, 2013, 14:04:14 pm
The forecast is looking dicey for the near future, so Big J and I's Saturday plans might be rained washed out. Screw that, I needed a fix. And I had not touched the Smith in a month or more. Out of bed and down the road this morning to get a couple of hours in before the generation.
I wasn't the only one with that idea. One guy was already there waiting on his buddy. They jumped in way below me and another fellow showed up above me. I only fished about 150 feet of river as I worked slowly and changed often to try to find the right pattern for that moment. A sporadic sulphur hatch was coming off and they were mainly taking the emergers. Enthusiastically for a while.

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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Yert97w6pak/Ua92mE1rpzI/AAAAAAAAHUU/xrc0SiOUFsE/w712-h534-no/006.JPG)

Oops!
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(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ppzvOHiBavw/Ua92o1WB27I/AAAAAAAAHUs/YUeOa0tM1Gs/w712-h534-no/013.JPG)
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(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hepeOuYDzSo/Ua92nI6FgJI/AAAAAAAAHUc/UY6zcK6YfRQ/w712-h534-no/008.JPG)

Trippy!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6QQnDfKr02E/Ua93pvKfqKI/AAAAAAAAHVQ/vb7V_tqRquE/w1043-h517-no/006-PANO.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HKrSR9c9YYQ/Ua92p2bACmI/AAAAAAAAHU0/O9NsBLLVViQ/w712-h534-no/014.JPG)

The obligatory vegetation shots. Hophornbeam and Multiflora Rose.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MVUDLoTFH5Q/Ua92rmGw70I/AAAAAAAAHVE/17QxEzmmJng/w712-h534-no/017.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fUP6zOBkNDs/Ua92sp2U8cI/AAAAAAAAHVI/uS-oNa3TwDg/w435-h534-no/018.JPG)

Fix satisfied.  V:;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on June 05, 2013, 14:18:17 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on June 05, 2013, 14:04:14 pm
The forecast is looking dicey for the near future, so Big J and I's Saturday plans might be rained washed out.



I saw the forecast Doug, I may still get out Saturday, I may not.  My wife Monday night broke her pinky toe (pretty badly too, almost ripped it off) and the fact she has the lowest pain tolerance I have ever seen, I may not be "allowed" out.  I'm busting my tail to finish up this weeks hw though and still trying/wanting to get out Saturday.

I like the shots you've been taking with the new camera.  Glad you could sneak down there before generation.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 05, 2013, 14:27:25 pm
Quote from: Big J on June 05, 2013, 14:18:17 pm
My wife Monday night broke her pinky toe (pretty badly too, almost ripped it off) and the fact she has the lowest pain tolerance I have ever seen, I may not be "allowed" out. 


Flip flop catastrophe?  :o

I'm game for Saturday, buttt........
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on June 05, 2013, 16:22:36 pm
Doug - I'll be back in town Saturday if Big J can't get out.  The weather looks find for Saturday.  I think the issue will be heavy rain on Friday!   b';

Nice work on the Smith, btw!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 07, 2013, 09:39:40 am
From the powerhouse hotline:
10-10 generation today.
12 midnight tonight - 12 midnight June 14. 24/7 generation.

They'll be be some hungry browns after another week of sluicing.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on June 13, 2013, 19:57:43 pm
After the rain we had today it doesn't look good for the next week on the Smith
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 13, 2013, 21:34:14 pm
Quote from: gonephishin' on June 13, 2013, 19:57:43 pm
After the rain we had today it doesn't look good for the next week on the Smith


why are they only spinning one wheel at the damn dam?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on June 14, 2013, 22:01:13 pm
New schedule.....no generation Sat and Sunday...9am to 9pm Mon thru Friday
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on June 15, 2013, 18:08:26 pm
Noticed they weren't generating today and decided to take my new pup on his first Smith fishing trip. I hadn't been up to the homeland in a couple months mostly due to the pup and work so it was nice to get out.

He enjoyed the walk through the fields below the mirror plant

(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv171/gamatt53/IMG_0739_zpsf4e7c9d6.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/gamatt53/media/IMG_0739_zpsf4e7c9d6.jpg.html)

Noticed fish rising to sulphurs as soon as we stepped into the water - Tucker noticed too and decided to investigate  b';. After he realized just how cold the water was though he mostly stayed in the shallow stuff behind me and let me work the run.

(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv171/gamatt53/IMG_0732_zps4ae9212d.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/gamatt53/media/IMG_0732_zps4ae9212d.jpg.html)

Didn't take too long to connect with the first brown of the day

(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv171/gamatt53/IMG_0736_zps3e6bf027.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/gamatt53/media/IMG_0736_zps3e6bf027.jpg.html)

They were looking up all afternoon with the sporadic hatch. Had to be hungry after all the recent generation

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I would stick a few then hit the field again to let Tucker run and warm up before jumping back in. Once I got to double digits I figured it was time to head back - ended up being a nice way to spend an afternoon.

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and tired puppy is a well behaved puppy. We will be back when the generation allows it!

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 16, 2013, 00:26:45 am
cool TR :o
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 16, 2013, 15:03:13 pm
 'c; Good day for you and the pup.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 21, 2013, 14:54:51 pm
http://youtu.be/XYXXhn9fMYs (http://youtu.be/XYXXhn9fMYs)

The old 9 - 9 generation schedule sucks the big one. I've had a good roll going and I wanted to fish, but I probably won't get out this weekend, so I slipped out the door early and headed for the river. I was the only peckerhead there and the sulphurs were sporadically popping off and fish were rising as far as the eye could see.
Got my dry/dropper sorted out and slowly waded in. Third cast, fish. A few more, fish. It went like that for about two hours with a few slow spots thrown in. They took the soft hackle emerger about 2:1 over the dry. A lot of 10"+ fish today to go with the usual suspects. Hope Al and the boys whack 'em this weekend!

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 21, 2013, 15:15:16 pm
that's not a bad way to start the day...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 22, 2013, 18:53:08 pm

OK, round two after yesterday's slap down. Al needed some Wounded Warrior help, and I have a women who lets me get away. A 6:30AM kiss on the cheek and gone. I gathered Joe at Al's cabin and we hit the the lower hay field, a section he had never fished. Cool! Fish were not as eager as yesterday, but we scored.

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0:0  And Salute!



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on June 23, 2013, 14:29:18 pm
Cool cool.  Flows back to normal down there?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on June 23, 2013, 17:43:58 pm
I was up there with the Pup yesterday afternoon as well - just about the same result as last time except they wanted an emerger. Good way to spend a saturday
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 23, 2013, 20:29:36 pm
Quote from: Big J on June 23, 2013, 14:29:18 pm
Cool cool.  Flows back to normal down there?


Looking good for generation for the near future. The late sulphur hatch will be under generation though.  b';

Quote from: gamatt53 on June 23, 2013, 17:43:58 pm
I was up there with the Pup yesterday afternoon as well - just about the same result as last time except they wanted an emerger. Good way to spend a saturday


I noticed a couple of NC tags alongside us when I took out at noonish. Trestle pool action? Emerger...check!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 24, 2013, 08:59:32 am
Big shout out and thank you to Doug and Larry for helping me with a Wounded Warriors / Project Healing Waters group this past weekend. As most of you know I'm a vet from another era. I remember how we were treated when we came home. In my own little way I've vowed to do what I can to make sure our current veterans do not experience the same thing. We did a good thing this past weekend.

No one got hurt, everyone caught fish, we had fun and if my empty food locker is a good indicator :o, everyone put on a little weight.

More detailed report to follow when I retrieve my camera's SD card from my cabin kitchen table - likely next weekend.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 30, 2013, 15:33:50 pm


http://youtu.be/czZNjEBtMAM (http://youtu.be/czZNjEBtMAM)

Responding to my daughter's question, I replied, "Well, you could go to church". To which she replied, "Why? You don't go".  "I went to church last night, I was on the river," I stated. "That's not church," she retorted. "It's my church! I listened to the birds chirping, waiting for the sulfurs to hatch and the fish to rise. I watched the birds sweep down over the water, picking bugs off the surface. How do they do that? The nymphs are emerging under the water and they molt on the surface and are there for only a few seconds before they fly away. How do the birds see them and swoop down and pick them off the surface? I mean, I can see them, but the birds are flying around, while I'm just standing there and watching. It's really amazing, so yes, I was at church last night," I explained.

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I expected sulfurs, but I got midges, the fish weren't really rising, and I refused to nymph, I thought about it, but decided to drink a beer and wait, hoping that the evening would bring on a hatch like I've seen before. "Are they done for the season", I asked myself?  I rigged up the ole Orvis Bamboo,  man, they feels heavy, especially after fishing with the One Ounce last weekend. Got into the groove, feeling the rod throw the line out there like only bamboo can do. I managed to catch a few of the smallest brown trout. An angler upstream from me, fishing the flat water, casting up against the rhododendron covered far bank, set the hook with a Bill Dance special, "A little less pepper on the hook-set," I yelled. Laughing, he replied, "Too much slack in the line".


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There were a few sulfurs but not many, and the midges were taking over. I sat down and drank another beer.

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(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/072913-9.jpg)

Finally the fish were looking up a little and I managed to catch a number of the regulars and a stocked rainbow too. This was the first rainbow that I've caught in this section of the river, I hope it's not a sign of the future.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2013/6/072913-11.jpg)


As the sun set a small number of sulfurs hatched along with a billion midges and a few more fish were caught. Nice evening of the river with the dog.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 01, 2013, 07:05:43 am
Nice, WB. You are a patient SOB. I throw on the dropper from the get go and start casting! /'/
And I always catch bows that have washed down in that section. Also, I've scored a couple of the "rainbows don't reproduce in the Smith" wild ones, too.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on July 01, 2013, 07:39:41 am
I decided to see what was doing on Sunday.  Much of the same.  Blazing hot temps pushed me out until the evening hours.  Even worse, two guys were already where I wanted to start the day, so it pushed me further down the tracks in the heat  b';

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Sporadic rises and no real bug activity to speak of...

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Doug - Do you recognize that fly?

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In the last half hour, Sulphurs started to break the surface.  I guess it was a hatch if you want to call it that?  One of the last...

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 01, 2013, 07:45:36 am
Quote from: consumnfire1229 on July 01, 2013, 07:39:41 am

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Doug - Do you recognize that fly?




You're sinking pretty low to be using my secret weapon.  :-*
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: CaddisMan on July 01, 2013, 07:58:29 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on June 30, 2013, 15:33:50 pm


http://youtu.be/czZNjEBtMAM (http://youtu.be/czZNjEBtMAM)

Responding to my daughter's question, I replied, "Well, you could go to church". To which she replied, "Why? You don't go".  "I went to church last night, I was on the river," I stated. "That's not church," she retorted. "It's my church! I listened to the birds chirping, waiting for the sulfurs to hatch and the fish to rise. I watched the birds sweep down over the water, picking bugs off the surface. How do they do that? The nymphs are emerging under the water and they molt on the surface and are there for only a few seconds before they fly away. How do the birds see them and swoop down and pick them off the surface? I mean, I can see them, but the birds are flying around, while I'm just standing there and watching. It's really amazing, so yes, I was at church last night," I explained.



Amen.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: CaddisMan on July 01, 2013, 08:12:58 am
Quote from: consumnfire1229 on July 01, 2013, 07:39:41 am

Doug - Do you recognize that fly?



Caddis larvae, perhaps... com'on, give it up...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on July 01, 2013, 08:18:41 am
Quote from: Dougfish on July 01, 2013, 07:45:36 am
Quote from: consumnfire1229 on July 01, 2013, 07:39:41 am

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Doug - Do you recognize that fly?




You're sinking pretty low to be using my secret weapon.  :-*


Ah, his fleshy looking dropper.  Looks like the cat is out of the bag doug  ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 01, 2013, 22:29:11 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on July 01, 2013, 07:05:43 am
Nice, WB. You are a patient SOB. I throw on the dropper from the get go and start casting! /'/
And I always catch bows that have washed down in that section. Also, I've scored a couple of the "rainbows don't reproduce in the Smith" wild ones, too.


I was lucky to have some beer and the dog with me to pass the time while waiting for those few remaining sulfurs.. I didn't get into a good hatch on the Smith this year... damn dams!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 02, 2013, 05:48:18 am
Headed down to try some early AM action as soon as the coffee's brewed  -0- ......TBC.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: CaddisMan on July 02, 2013, 10:09:33 am
Must do decaf on fishing mornings. I know its not the same but I roast my own beans so at least I have a comforting warm brew in my hands before tying a #22 midge larvae on a 7x tippet. Not sure what I'll do if I ever get to drive Smith-way at 4am like I mean to...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 02, 2013, 13:07:24 pm
I went to church this morning. No Tuesday morning church song, so here's a reasonable stand in. Killer penny whistle.

http://youtu.be/FtjuxoYnlaw (http://youtu.be/FtjuxoYnlaw)

After brewing the high test coffee I boogied down to river (I OD'ed on caffeine in college. Doesn't affect me much anymore   ;D).
The skies looked iffy, and sure enough, I was into the rain pretty soon. Then I ran out of it at the Henry Co. line. Got rigged up and headed to the not so secret spot. Slower rises than the last few trips, definitely less bugs coming off. But I got dialed in after a few changes. And I wasn't using the not so secret anymore dropper, Scott.

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I got sprinkled on a few times but it wasn't too bad. No rain jacket, BTW. b';
Then the fish started getting bigger. And my misses started getting more numerous. I threw up a throw-away cast into an unproductive spot so I could move up and over a few feet. When I glanced up, my dry was gone. I set the hook and a very nice brown shook me off. Dumbass!

The only fish to take the dry. Buttah!

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Nice bow for Woolly. Your spot, too.  :P

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Elderberry and Queen Anne's Lace to close the show.

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Rained most of the way home. The fishing is done for a few days. 0:0

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 02, 2013, 14:06:09 pm
you done did good this morning...

If I could get may lazy ass up extra early, I might make a morning trip...

hmmmm, looks like my VA license is up for renewal... b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 02, 2013, 14:22:14 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on July 02, 2013, 14:06:09 pm
you done did good this morning...

If I could get may lazy ass up extra early, I might make a morning trip...

hmmmm, looks like my VA license is up for renewal... b';


My weekends are toast for a while. It's this, or nothing. This is working just dandy.

While standing in the middle of a well traveled creek and talking to a VDGIF employee who was surveying fisherman, I realized that mine had expired a month and a half ago.  :o Thank goodness he wasn't a warden. Vamoosed into town and fixed that. Yea, I carped on a busy lake with it expired, too. With a newspaper columnist. And cameras.  b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on July 02, 2013, 14:39:17 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on July 02, 2013, 14:22:14 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on July 02, 2013, 14:06:09 pm
you done did good this morning...

If I could get may lazy ass up extra early, I might make a morning trip...

hmmmm, looks like my VA license is up for renewal... b';


My weekends are toast for a while. It's this, or nothing. This is working just dandy.

While standing in the middle of a well traveled creek and talking to a VDGIF employee who was surveying fisherman, I realized that mine had expired a month and a half ago.  :o Thank goodness he wasn't a warden. Vamoosed into town and fixed that. Yea, I carped on a busy lake with it expired, too. With a newspaper columnist. And cameras.  b';


At least you fish at all.  I'm beginning to turn into Bill....heck, even he is fishing now.

I would of paid good money to see your mug in that newspaper column getting handed a ticket.  You know that columnist would of never let you live that down.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on July 02, 2013, 20:26:18 pm
That is right Big J I am fishing.  Headed to B!@#!@# creek tomorrow evening!  And then on Saturday flying to MN to fish the boundary waters for a week - every stinking day  And then when I get home I am going to do a TWO day float if the river ever comes down + some more blue line fishing.  You prob. got a toilet to unplug, get that lespedeza under control, gutter cleaning and some mulching.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on July 02, 2013, 21:11:24 pm
Quote from: tomato can on July 02, 2013, 20:26:18 pm
That is right Big J I am fishing.  Headed to B!@#!@# creek tomorrow evening!  And then on Saturday flying to MN to fish the boundary waters for a week - every stinking day  And then when I get home I am going to do a TWO day float if the river ever comes down + some more blue line fishing.  You prob. got a toilet to unplug, get that lespedeza under control, gutter cleaning and some mulching.


I had to look up lespedeza.  I do hate lespedeza.  Thanks for teaching me that.  Also, as far as you fishing so much.......I hate you.........
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 02, 2013, 21:31:17 pm
I had to look it up too, lespedeza I thought that was something else...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on July 02, 2013, 21:53:47 pm
Unless Towne is blown up, an early morning may be my only July 4th option...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 02, 2013, 21:59:07 pm
Rain, rain and more rain. 


oh, and just a side note about the Boundary Waters, my son, who is working at the BSA high adventure camp; northern tier called today! He's already guided two trips, one out of Atikokan, then they brought him back to Ely to guide his second trip. He's going back to Canada on Saturday, and his next trip is Sunday. 

/'/  /'/
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 03, 2013, 16:52:36 pm
Repost of my blog which went to some of you already - figured I'd let the rest of the folks know I am still alive. ::)

It has been awhile since I did any serious Smith River fishing. Been a little here and there but it was either just a short burst trying to beat the crazy 24/7 generation schedule or with someone else which is not exactly serious fishing in my book.  The lawn needed mowing at my get away place which sits on a wooded ridge less then a mile from the Smith so I got that out of the way and headed to a favorite section of the river. My favorite sections are not necessarily the best fishing sections. I label them by where there is easy entrance to the river and a fairly easy exit based on how much time I have to fish. I hate fishing a section and then turning around and wading back downstream to the same point for exit - as many of you know, there are not many spots on the Smith where you can just get out without acting like a Billy Goat or busting brush. I thought I had the river broken down into entrance / exit sections but as my back seems to ache sooner then it used to after a long day of wading I may have to rethink my strategy b';

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP9233_zpsaca40946.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP9233_zpsaca40946.jpg.html)
Here is one of those sections.  I hear a lot of folks say they don't know how to catch fish in all that flat water. My advice is learn. Most of the better fish I catch on the Smith come from water such as this.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP9220_zps8ac592c4.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP9220_zps8ac592c4.jpg.html)
It took we a while to get them dialed in. I rolled seven fish and I mean "rolled them" before obtaining a solid hookup that brought this typical Smith River Brown to the net. BTW I love my ghost net. It is so much easier on the fish and it eliminates the hassle of trying to get your dropper fly out of the regular string woven netting. My last string woven net ended up with more flies then I carry in my fly box  :P

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP9231_zpscc8324b9.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP9231_zpscc8324b9.jpg.html)
Lots of rainbows still in the river. The last two stockings occurred while they were in the 24/7 generation cycle so the fish which are not used to moving water got pushed downstream away from the normal "follow the stock truck" fishing holes. Hint, hint to the DGIF folks who read my ramblings - We (SRTU) sent a letter to DGIF suggesting they coordinate stockings with the COE generation schedule. W e also asked them to let us know ahead of time when they were coming and we will try to round up a "bucket crew" to help spread out the fish. I even talked with one of my friends who is noted for following the stock truck. He thought it was a great idea and said he could get some of his buddies to help as well - no one ever asked them before.   BTW nothing wrong with bait fishermen. We all started out that way. I encountered 5 bait fishermen this past weekend and every one of them was just as nice as can be. Most are entranced with the way our fly lines and flies dance across the water.  When I talk with them, many would like to take up fly fishing but they fear it is too difficult to learn. I've even given impromptu casting lessons on the stream.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP9227_zps93c65402.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP9227_zps93c65402.jpg.html)
This rainbow had a serious overbite problem. Not sure if it is a generic thing or maybe he just rubbed on the raceway at the hatchery too much before growing to stocking size. BTW Kudos to DGIF for stocking some nice fish. Most that I caught were well into the 12-14 inch range. I did see a 20 plus inch rainbow on the stringer of one of the bait fishermen. Even though it broke my heart to think I would not have a chance to catch him, he was caught legally and I congratulated the fisherman who caught him.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP9229_zpse7901f53.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP9229_zpse7901f53.jpg.html)
This is what I was after! This and several others I caught in two days of fishing would have fallen into the 10-24 inch protected slot.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP9245_zpse05aa1db.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP9245_zpse05aa1db.jpg.html)
Here is another one of my favorite sections - this one has a few more riffles.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP9250_zpse360b63d.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP9250_zpse360b63d.jpg.html)
Lots of rainbows stack up in the riffles at this time of the year.

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I could bore you with a lot more fish photos - Lets just say the Smith is fishing well ;)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 05, 2013, 21:12:07 pm
I see Woolly put this out on the chat board but thought it might be good here as well - If youre planning to fish the Smith next week be sure to bring your raft, canoe or kayak.  They are running water 24/7 all week until at least midnight July 12th.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: CaddisMan on July 13, 2013, 06:24:09 am
Drove up on a whim Friday morning and got lucky.  A temporary shutdown allowed me to wade just below the dam for these two (my first browns caught on the Smith). I was just going to do some deep water dead drifting from the lawn (I don't know if this ever works) but, to my surprise and delight, noticed the river was down and the trout were topwater feeding (couldn't identify any sort of hatch.) So, I tried a floating terrestrial, but with no luck I switched to a dry/dropper and caught this'un first on the nymph drifting under the tree overhang.

Couldn't repeat that so I put on a stimulator and cast up and out.  This guy snapped it up on the second cast and within a couple of seconds after touch-down. Then the horn blew and the river rose.

My unexpected opportunity had the adrenaline pumping and I fiddled with gear and knots (forgot my scissor/forceps - stuck using my knife) more than I would have liked. I suppose with practice and experience comes efficiency. I only fished for a short time but I had a blast and enjoyed the scene.

Any chance the dam staff noticed me arrive and was afraid I might wade the torrent? That or just luck, either way, cheers to the timing at Philpott Dam.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 13, 2013, 08:17:55 am
 'c; 'c; 'c;
You lucked out on the pause in generation. Congrats.
10am-midnight over the weekend. 3am-midnight M-Th. 5am-midnight F. Ugh!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 13, 2013, 12:21:28 pm
I've not been fishing this month! going crazy, waiting for all this rain to subside .. but good to see some body got after them on the Smith!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on July 18, 2013, 12:12:46 pm
I went for the first time in about 6 weeks this past weekend.  I fished for about 30 minutes on Saturday afternoon on the one of the few places I could stand on the bank on high water and caught a grand total of 2 fish.  It started raining and I left and ate a pizza. Spent the night and fished Sunday from around 9 until 1 or so.  I caught around 20 during that period.  I caught some of the smallest fish I have caught out of there in years.  I caught 6 fish in the slot with the biggest being maybe 12 inches.  I caught fish that would have made a sardine look like a whale.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 26, 2013, 14:07:41 pm


I scooted down to the river this morning for a little therapy. Between rains and goofy generation schedules, the Smith has been tough to get on without a bote. A NC tagged truck beat me to the parking lot. He must have started at the trestle hole because I could just barely make him out downriver when I fished around the bend. Cooler temps this morning, no mist on the river. Flubbed a bunch of fish pics today, so a lite report.

My welcoming committee was there. Black dog wouldn't pose, but was present.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K263GZlFhiA/UfK0e7DQyTI/AAAAAAAAH4U/Nr14JYlUYeo/w712-h534-no/002.JPG)

The river was cloudy from storms they got yesterday. Just made my footwork a little dicier. Fish still cooperated. Beadhead PT soft hackle is still the go to. Lost one, missed a few, scored enough to make the day.

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Most of today's fish were in the 10-11" range. But not this frisky little fellow.

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Hopped out before the generation got to me and headed home.

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On the honey/bee theme. Sourwood honey in progress
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0:0 mates! To the beach for most of next week. No rod. A week of Sweetie time buys me unlimited fishing upon our return.  :-*

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 26, 2013, 14:20:01 pm
What did you do to that last fish? (Just before the flower shots) It looks abnormal - might even be related to a snakefish or eel. Take a look - expect it is the camera angle but sure looks thin.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 26, 2013, 14:30:40 pm
Quote from: Al on July 26, 2013, 14:20:01 pm
What did you do to that last fish? (Just before the flower shots) It looks abnormal - might even be related to a snakefish or eel. Take a look - expect it is the camera angle but sure looks thin.


Half in the water, half out. Does look weird.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on July 27, 2013, 11:55:51 am
I was hoping to go this weekend, but the rain is going to keep me away...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 05, 2013, 14:47:49 pm


http://youtu.be/ZclddLcOYYA (http://youtu.be/ZclddLcOYYA)

I'm coming off a weeks vacation that involved running to the NC for 4 7 1/2 days and then on to the high hills of Northen WV for the weekend (I was a good boy and didn't take the rods to the beach or WV ;D). We were pooped when we rolled in last night, so my wife decided to work from home and I decided to get in a half day of fishing before hitting the road for work for the rest of the week. Got a lazy start and hopped out before the noon generation got to me. Didn't slay, didn't suck.

Got high holed by man's best friends before I could get rigged up.  b';

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Fish, fish, fish. Browns, browns, browns. Stood in the middle of the river and talked with consumnfire by phone just to rub it in.  :-*

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Flubbed the pic on maybe the nicest fish of the day.

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0:0

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on August 05, 2013, 15:26:49 pm
Nice Dougfish.  Maybe we can go fishing together before the summer is out but we is running' out of time.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 05, 2013, 15:30:06 pm
Quote from: tomato can on August 05, 2013, 15:26:49 pm
Nice Dougfish.  Maybe we can go fishing together before the summer is out but we is running' out of time.


Next week. Give me a call and we'll plan. You know, decide daaaays ahead of time....... ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 05, 2013, 20:06:15 pm
Nice work!  That second fish is a beauty!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 05, 2013, 20:15:20 pm
There was another Smith River Clean Up this past weekend so I made the 147 mile journey north to lend a hand. This was the third clean up of the year. The groups who spearheaded the previous clean ups were publicly thanked for helping get the river in great shape for the upcoming Smith River Fest http://www.visitmartinsville.com/Smith-River-Fest.html (http://www.visitmartinsville.com/Smith-River-Fest.html) . We didn't have the big turnout we had last year but there were enough to get the job done. I did see several folks wearing Trout Unlimited hats which is always encouraging. The Martinsville Bulletin did a story today along with photos at http://www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=38586 (http://www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=38586)

A fellow from Greensboro came up to help out and to learn a little about the river. We hit it off, so once the clean up was over I provided him up with a sketch map and gave him a "windshield tour"of the river which included some of my favorite sections along with access points. He did not bring his fishing gear or I would have included a little sampling of the river. Once he headed back to Greensboro I had an early dinner, pulled on my waders and headed out to fish until dark.


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP9396_zps64d9d4e8.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP9396_zps64d9d4e8.jpg.html)
I wasn't the only one with the same idea because the first two places I went to fish were already covered by local fishermen. Not to worry the Smith has +30 miles of trout holding water and most of it is decent fishing. I finally settled on a long stretch of flat water. The depth ranged from knee to chest deep - ideal holding area for a big brown.

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Well not exactly the big brown I was looking for but at least I know there are fish here. No breeze this evening and it must have been in the lower 90's. I actually broke into a sweat anytime I  was in water less then waist deep. The water was real smooth and I could see a long way upstream -  only 2-3 rises observed the entire evening.

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Only decent fish of the evening and he was still shy of the 10 inch protected slot limit. I caught a decent number but it was hard fishing and the size was so-so. I tried a variety of flies (I normally cast three at a time) but every one of them came to the fly you saw in the first fish photo.

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The exit point had a nice riffle which I fished hard and succeeded in adding a couple more to the tally. All in all a good evening - not what I had hoped for but still a good evening of fishing. 

I hope to see some of you at the Smith River Fest on Saturday, August 10th at the Smith River Sports Complex, 1000 Irisburg Road in Axton, just off the Hwy 58 Bypass.  Smith River TU will have a booth right next to the beer garden. We'll be tying flies, giving casting lessons and talking up the regions fishing opportunities. If you bring your gear one of us might even go fishing with you afterwards.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wind_knot on August 06, 2013, 06:27:40 am
Quote from: Dougfish on August 05, 2013, 14:47:49 pm

Got high holed by man's best friends before I could get rigged up.  b';


I think we need to change your name to Dogfish as many times as he's been fishing with you!! ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 06, 2013, 06:42:24 am
Quote from: wind_knot on August 06, 2013, 06:27:40 am
Quote from: Dougfish on August 05, 2013, 14:47:49 pm

Got high holed by man's best friends before I could get rigged up.  b';


I think we need to change your name to Dogfish as many times as he's been fishing with you!! ;D


Yellowdog and Blackdog greet me in the parking area almost every trip. I pet and talk to them, but I don't feed them. I could never get rid of them if they got a treat.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wind_knot on August 06, 2013, 06:43:51 am
You can't get rid of them now! If you gave them a treat, they'd be in the car before you could open the door all the way!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: rford on August 18, 2013, 15:58:56 pm
Has anyone heard or know about a possible draw down of Philpott Lake in the next month or so?  I have heard that they have a leak in the dam that means generating until they lower the lake by 60 feet.  That will mean a good deal of 24/7 generating. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 19, 2013, 06:15:16 am
Quote from: rford on August 18, 2013, 15:58:56 pm
Has anyone heard or know about a possible draw down of Philpott Lake in the next month or so?  I have heard that they have a leak in the dam that means generating until they lower the lake by 60 feet.  That will mean a good deal of 24/7 generating.


Heard nothing Roy. Will keep my ear to the ground.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 19, 2013, 09:53:46 am
Per the Philpott Operations Manager, there is work scheduled (as always), but no drawdown is scheduled. Rumor squashed.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 20, 2013, 12:50:28 pm


I thought about getting some fishing done on Sunday afternoon, so I headed up to the Smith.

I should have gone to a pool party, but no, I headed up to VA only to find the lower river high, and the old special regs section muddy. I hit the section above town creek, no risers, nymphed with a zebra and a soft hackle to no avail, I should have stayed home and expressed the dogs anal glans! The only saving grace was the cold beer stashed in the cooler!


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no fish were harmed making this report.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 20, 2013, 17:47:09 pm
I headed up there Saturday and fished for a couple of hours in the rain.  I caught a grand total of 5 fish before surrendering.  I went to Poppa's and ate some pizza.  I got up the next morning and headed way upstream.  It was still cold but the water was getting clearer.  I caught a grand total of 2 in the first 2 hours.  I got back n the car and went about a mile downstream.  Lo and behold nobody was in that spot.  I went downstream hopped in the river and started fishing.  It had warmed up some and no rain was to be found.  I started catching fish immediately.  The first 3 were all under 10 inches.  Then I started catching them in the slot.  They were barely in the slot, but what the heck.  I then got back in the car and headed down to a hole I normally save for the fall, but with the river muddy below Town's Creek I didn't have much choice.  I parked and walked downstream to where I normally hit the river and saw some sucker on the other side of the river fishing upstream.  I don't know where the heck he came from but he told me he was going to fish on upstream.  No choice for me, but to keep walking.  I walked  downstream to where I could get in the river and fish a stretch I hadn't fished in years.  I won't wait that long the next.  The first spot was dead, but the next pool had 10 and 11 inch fish stacked up against the bank and I had a ball for the next hour or so.  The water was fairly shallow and they nowhere to go but up.  They were jumping like 10 and 11 inch salmon.  They have changed photobucket on me and I haven't had the time or the inclination to figure out how to resize them.  Here are a few pictures if it works.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 20, 2013, 20:38:38 pm
WB, tough luck brother. We were Smiffing Sat. until a little voice told us to go to a higher stream. It spoke the truth.

5x, persistence pays off.  'c; Glad to see a Smith reportage from you. I thought you got mad and went away. :laugh:
And, congrats and thank you at the same time on your winning ticket a week+ ago.  bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 20, 2013, 20:55:46 pm
Doug, I've barely fished this summer.  My twins moved home from Atlanta in May and are now working here, so I had to get them situated.  Also, my 84 year old mother had back surgery in June.   My wife and I have been keeping an eye on her while she is in rehab getting her strength back. It seems like every time I could get away they were generating. It is just getting to the time of year I like to fish up there anyway. -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 20, 2013, 21:03:52 pm
Quote from: 5xTippett on August 20, 2013, 20:55:46 pm
...... It is just getting to the time of year I like to fish up there anyway. -0-


I thought I saw some "green" in one of those pics.  ::)

Sorry about your Mom. I am heading down that road soon myself. Not fun.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on August 21, 2013, 08:49:53 am
Quote from: 5xTippett on August 20, 2013, 20:55:46 pm
My twins moved home from Atlanta in May and are now working here, so I had to get them situated. 


Nice report 5x.  Your twins didn't like Atlanta?  I told you my thoughts on Atlanta haha
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 21, 2013, 10:27:36 am
They enjoyed Atlanta for 6 or 7 months and then they got tired of the traffic.  Forty five minutes to get to work if you left at a certain time, and an hour if you left fifteen minutes later.  It is nice to have then back in town.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 21, 2013, 16:11:12 pm
Ben, that water nowhere resembles what I saw on Sunday... to me it looked like Yahoo....
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on August 21, 2013, 16:41:35 pm
Woolly, I hit the river above Towne Sunday evening as well.  Not gin clear as it normally would be but not Yoohoo either.  Conditions looked perfect, and I did catch fish, but not quite the evening I had anticipated.  Lots of dinks even by Smith River standards. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 21, 2013, 17:07:31 pm
Keith, it was clear by about 1:30 which is about the time I started catching fish.  I ended up about a mile above you when I quit fishing at around 5:30.  They started eating when it started warming up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on August 21, 2013, 21:31:39 pm
Nice reports!  Fishing the Smith has been unpredictable with rain every 15 minutes for the past 3 months, not to mention cold fronts.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 02, 2013, 15:08:31 pm


http://youtu.be/kdnzB_xkERQ (http://youtu.be/kdnzB_xkERQ)

After a spring and summer of wearing out the Smith (when fishable  b';), I went down this AM for some mental health time and more slaying.
Nay nay, cocky bastard!
I get to the Mirror Plant and some numb nuts had parked right in the middle of the entrance. A huge grass lot and he stops right off the road? There's your sign. I suit up and walk down through the hayfield wondering where nummsie put in. The river was mucho cloudy. WTF! 0.13 " of rain in the last 60 hours and Townes Ck. is running Yoo-hoo. I assume the parking impaired walked down the tracks 'cause the spider webs are all intact. I string up and ease out to the middle to let the river creatures calm down. While tying on my flies I notice the guy about 100 yards downstream. Fishing downstream. He plows through a hundred yards of river and starts back up. I chuckle, then stop. I can't buy a fish. Maybe he's got the right idea.  :o   I missed a couple. Made numerous fly changes, dropper changes. Throw on a big ass foam hopper and four fish slash at it. No strikes, just violet slashes. "Get that shit out of here!" slashes. I caught a few on three different droppers. The really dumb ones, obviously. I ended up chucking a  bugger through the last hole to see if I could get an attack or two. Not easy with the 4 wt. and unsuccessful, too. Fudge it. Home beckoned. Back to the truck and on the road by noon. Four vehicles in the lot, nummsie in the entrance. Two VA plates, two NC and one MD. Poor saps.

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Sigh. Very few fish were hurt in the making of this TR. I ended up with one guy above me and two below when I took out. Not a lot was going on, fish wise.
Happy Labor Day from your Smith River finicky fishes!

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 09, 2013, 11:26:47 am
Went back this weekend to have at it again.  It was more or less a replay of the last time minus the rain with a few more fish caught.  I tried an experiment Saturday afternoon.  I parked in Bassett and walked way downstream to the next bridge and fished back to the car.  Two hours later I had 4 fish and was thoroughly disgusted.  I won't be back there.  I hopped in the car and headed downstream to another spot where I normally end up.  I managed 6 fish in an hour.  One was pushing 14 inches which was the highlight of a somewhat disappointing day.  I spent the night and hit the river the next morning.  The first spot started slow but it picked up somewhat.  I went back to the car, got something to eat and headed back to the river.  The next spot I went to was a replay of the last time I fished there except I caught more fish and had even more fun.  The fish were up against both banks.  I stood in the middle and caught fish everywhere.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Rod Champion on September 09, 2013, 11:42:54 am
Sorry about your Mother, Ben. That is so hard..
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 09, 2013, 12:12:03 pm
Rod, Mother is all right now.  She had back surgery, but she is back home now slowly recovering.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wind_knot on September 09, 2013, 12:38:05 pm
Quote from: 5xTippett on September 09, 2013, 12:12:03 pm
Rod, Mother is all right now.  She had back surgery, but she is back home now slowly recovering.


If you need any pointers on back surgery, I've had 4 fusions.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 09, 2013, 18:06:57 pm
Good to see you catching those SMB (Smith River Browns)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 09, 2013, 19:11:07 pm
 bd;0
Seriously good smack down and congrats on sticking with it....again!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 11, 2013, 11:37:33 am
Question for you guys...yesterday I had a guy tell me that he catches smallmouth out of the smith on a regular basis....anyone ever  seen 'em in there or is he blowing smoke? (Or smoking crack!)

Got me thinking about putting the boat in just above martins ville dam
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 11, 2013, 12:16:17 pm
smallies are way down stream well past the Sports Complex off of 58... or so I've been told /'/

Martinsville, VA - Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Martinsville,+VA&hl=en&ll=36.585898,-79.754391&spn=0.07526,0.162907&sll=35.170517,-79.860994&sspn=4.902499,10.426025&oq=martin&hnear=Martinsville,+Virginia&t=m&z=13)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on September 11, 2013, 12:43:00 pm
about Mitchell Bridge and down river...................they say
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 11, 2013, 14:13:00 pm
DAAAAMMMMNNN :o

Am I seeing this right? To float that section starting at Mitchell bridge the next launch is in eden??!! Anyone tried that before??
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 11, 2013, 15:07:42 pm
They are supposed to be in Towns Creek.  So I have heard!  Some could occasionally wash into the upper river.  I have caught a redbreast in the upper river but that is it.  I would suggest you follow Peewee's and Wooly's suggestions.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gonephishin' on September 11, 2013, 16:03:00 pm
I agree...seems more plausible but this guy was talking about where the river backs up between Kohler and martinsville dam....now I've taken my boat back there and caught some bluegill and even a couple largemouth but never fished it seriously.....hmmmmm....may have to spend the weekend exploring. I could do an eggleston to Mitchell float but I don't know about Eden.... that's damn near 13miles!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Rod Champion on September 11, 2013, 20:35:55 pm
Fish at Black curly tail jig, you will find out.. no kidding.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued-Fish w/a friend event
Post by: Dougfish on September 17, 2013, 07:48:21 am

SRTU hosted an event last Saturday to promote the Smith and the club to non-members and newbies. We had decent turnout, with at least 8 members and 5 guests. Correct me if I'm wrong Scott. It was a beautiful day and expectations were high that we could put these guys on some fish. Guests came from Fayetteville, Raleigh and Marion, to name a few. Feather Chucker and Wind Knot were present and accounted for. Club/forum members Fin, Al, Shane, Consuminfire, and myself were there to impart some wisdom pitiful advice. We met at the Mirror Plant and some teams went upstream, some down and some jumped in from Fish Camp to Hayfields.

Paul started us out with a blessing of this unholy gathering and away we went.

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My bunch. Team Flogger. I wadded out and made a few casts while my two guests finished rigging up. How could I be faster than them? :o
Like a good coach, I caught a brown on the fifth cast. "See guys, do it just like that!" It went downhill quickly from there. b';

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The water was weirdly warm and we saw very few active fish. And nobody caught those, either. There was much sloppy wading, a pratfall or two, a lot of tippet sacrificed, flies donated to the shrubbery and egos bruised. I played coach/spectator most of the time, but even when I did fish, I could not score another fish. Of course we probably spooked every one within a hundred yards. Two fish for three anglers bumbling idiots. Hmmmm, that means someone got skunked? 8)

Hey Mudders, what's this? Just off center to the lower left. Looked like a miniature horseshoe crab. Saw quite a few of them when I resorted to playing with rocks. On a good note, I saw more insect activity on the Smith's rocks than I normally do! Excellent plant day, too.

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More pics from Al's downstream camera:

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We finished up with lunch and lies at the parking area. Thanks Scott, for pulling the event together!

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on September 17, 2013, 09:52:59 am
Well I told you what they were hitting on but no one wanted to hear it

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Good show guys - Big thanks to all who showed up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Feather Chucker on September 17, 2013, 10:06:02 am
Quote from: Al on September 17, 2013, 09:52:59 am
Well I told you what they were hitting on but no one wanted to hear it

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Good show guys - Big thanks to all who showed up.


I have to learn the hard way first. Try every fly in my box that obviously is not working, use 8ft leaders, wade quickly. What really sucked is when Fin and I used the same fly and he was behind me catching fish after fish and I wasn't even getting a hit. I used to think I was kind of a decent fly fisherman. The Smith showed me otherwise. I think if you can succeed on the Smith you can probably catch fish anywhere in the United States.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wind_knot on September 17, 2013, 10:07:11 am
I wouldn't say I got skunked. I just resorted to trying to see the river from the fishes point of view!! Thank you SRTU and visitors for showing a good time regardless of my catching abilities. It is a river I will visit I between trips to the SoHo (a place where I know how to catch fish, but not necessarily know how to actually fly fish). And Doug, your advice was sound. Well, the part on cleated soles anyway! :laugh:

**Edit**

Maybe I should learn the Allie worm. That and making a less false casts.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 17, 2013, 11:10:37 am
Quote from: Feather Chucker on September 17, 2013, 10:06:02 am
What really sucked is when Fin and I used the same fly and he was behind me catching fish after fish and I wasn't even getting a hit.


I told you about Neil before we started. If he gets ahead of you.......well, you're doomed.
That dude can really fish.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on September 17, 2013, 13:15:06 pm
Quote from: wind_knot on September 17, 2013, 10:07:11 am
Maybe I should learn the Allie worm. That and making a less false casts.


At the risk of taking a lot of ribbing here is my advise on fishing the Smith and any other water - this works most of the time for me - not all the time but most of the time.

1) Start out with something you know catches fish, in my case the Allieworm - it will start you out with confidence.  IMHO most any dark nymph will do. It has more with how you fish and not what you fish. IMHO unless you see a lot of surface activity you are limiting your bent rod opportunities if you insist on fishing a dry fly only.

2) Use an indicator - bushy fly or yarn is best.  Those plastic, cork or paste on jobs make too much of a splash when cast and  sucking noise when picked up.

3) False casting puts the fish down, especially on clear water such as the Smith. Pull out whatever amount of line you're comfortable casting and go with that - if you can't reach the fish, move your feet.

4) Fish the near water first - you know there is a fish at the far bank but there may be one in that shallower water you are about to wade in so you can reach the far bank. Give marginal water a lick or two, then move in. Fish out each cast, even those that do not land exactly where you intended - might be a fish there. Never ceases to amaze me the folks who false cast, set it down and then immediately pick it up with a popping sound and then sit it back down about 6 inches from where they just disturbed the water. They then mutter that the fish are not biting today.

5) Cast above where you think the fish will be and let it sink and drift down to the fish. Quartering casts are best - it keeps the fly line off the fish. Let it drift 3-4 feet beyond the sweet spot then pick it up and do it again. Hit each likely looking spot 3-4 licks then move your feet. You're looking for a fish that wants to eat - not every fish in the river is going to hit.

6) Rod tip low - usually pointing at fly with very little slack line is best. If you have a lot of slack you are going to miss the hit. Indicator goes down or jiggles sideways tighten up the line and sideways hook set. We are not bass fishing here - no need to cross their eyes.

7) Careful wading. Shuffle your feet - do not do a lot of high stepping. Do not stand on boulders, you will slide off and likely take an unexpected bath. Studs/cleats and a wading stick help.

8) If after about a half hour nothing is happening then pull out your fly box 

9) If after a few fly changes and even going back to your "go to" fly you can't figure them out and you really want to catch some fish you should consider moving up or downstream a couple miles. I have done that often enough to know it works. One section is devoid of feeding fish and another has a feeding frenzy going on - that's fishing.

10) I'm sure you have some tips of your own - these are what work for me.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wind_knot on September 17, 2013, 13:55:16 pm
Well Al, you won't get any "ribbing" from me! Thank you very much for the pointers!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Feather Chucker on September 17, 2013, 17:19:49 pm
Thanks for the help Al. I'll put these hints to work the next time I hit the Smith.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 17, 2013, 18:18:15 pm
11. if all else fails drink a beer or two!

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wind_knot on September 17, 2013, 19:41:08 pm
This is why Woolly is the Boss!!

Al, thank you again for numbers 1 - 10!! I am sure they'd help anywhere!! Well, except the Allieworm part. ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: croaker on September 17, 2013, 21:46:53 pm
Quote from: Al on September 17, 2013, 13:15:06 pm4) Fish the near water first - you know there is a fish at the far bank but there may be one in that shallower water you are about to wade in so you can reach the far bank. Give marginal water a lick or two, then move in. Fish out each cast, even those that do not land exactly where you intended - might be a fish there. Never ceases to amaze me the folks who false cast, set it down and then immediately pick it up with a popping sound and then sit it back down about 6 inches from where they just disturbed the water. They then mutter that the fish are not biting today.


Sound advice for any flowing water fishing right there.

Hard to hook a fish if the flys in the air...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on September 18, 2013, 21:40:23 pm
Nice reports from a day of sluggish fishing.  At least we all had a good time!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 23, 2013, 11:00:56 am
I fished Sunday upstream and it was pretty tough.  I caught about 5 and earned everyone of them.  Around 3 I headed down to Bassett to see what was going on.  I made the remarkable discovery that the river was pretty durn stained.  It was too late to head back up so I stopped and fished for an hour or so.  I couldn't see my feet so it made the wading interesting.  I saw more fish moving in the stained water then I had the whole morning upstream.  I ended up catching 7 more if you count the one rainbow.  The last 2 fish I caught were 12 and 14 inches.  That last hour saved the day from being an absolute failure.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on September 23, 2013, 11:12:10 am
Glad you got into them.  I'll have to meet ya on the Smith sometime this fall. Give me a call next time you head that way and need someone to fish.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on September 23, 2013, 19:06:57 pm
Did Big J just say he is going to fish the Smith?

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on September 23, 2013, 19:09:39 pm
Bwo's started yet?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 23, 2013, 20:10:59 pm
The midges were out in full force.  I had an urge to switch rods and fish midges, but I successfully suppressed it.  I would probably caught more fish but I am not in the mood for that yet.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 23, 2013, 21:25:47 pm
Damn Ben! When do give lessons? 8)    bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on September 23, 2013, 21:57:06 pm
hey 5x you doing alright up on the top of the river.Can I sign up for them lessons ?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 24, 2013, 07:39:42 am
Nice work! Sometimes a little stain is all you need!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on September 26, 2013, 21:01:48 pm
I made a mistake today and got my hopes up for an evening Smith run after work.  I didn't check the Gen. Schedule.

p;- Nice work Ben! 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: JWJ on November 13, 2013, 17:58:56 pm

Haven't been around the forum in a while

Try and fish the Smith for a few hours every time I'm home. Which is rare

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on November 13, 2013, 18:24:05 pm
nice fish!!!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on November 13, 2013, 18:32:48 pm
Well shit.  bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on November 13, 2013, 19:19:19 pm
Very nice Smith browns!  Great job!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on November 13, 2013, 21:39:32 pm
Nice to see someone is still fishing the Smith. I'd give it a try but I still collecting fly tying supplies. Maybe at the end of the year :-\ but then again the urban archery season goes until the last Saturday in March ;D.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on November 14, 2013, 07:59:34 am
Keel Your Face.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on November 14, 2013, 09:06:39 am
Man, you picked a good couple of hours.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Feather Chucker on November 14, 2013, 10:37:51 am
Dang, those are some of the biggest fish I've seen come out of the Smith in awhile.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 14, 2013, 14:00:44 pm
good browns fer sure... p;-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on November 14, 2013, 20:54:48 pm
Pretty fish! 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on November 14, 2013, 20:58:05 pm
didnt think there was any fish that size left in the Smith.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: outdoorguy3 on November 14, 2013, 21:13:39 pm
Quote from: 22midge on November 14, 2013, 20:58:05 pm
didnt think there was any fish that size left in the Smith.

:o ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on November 15, 2013, 07:47:21 am
In a Borat voice...Very Nice!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on March 01, 2014, 21:07:19 pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMAI26FPeyM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMAI26FPeyM)

People on scooters piss me off...

Had the "old" special reg. section to myself today.  Long stressful week forced me to get out this weekend even though I knew the fishing would be tough.

Eager friggin' beaver...

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Big tree a crapped beside of...

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Porno for Doug...

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After two hours, I had a LDR on a "descent" brown... b';

Around 12:30 the sun started to peak through the clouds.  I decided to get out of the river and start hunting for a potential rising trout.  I have had mediocre success on the Smith by keying in on actively feeding trout.  No sooner that I started my stalk, I noticed dimples, then more dimples, and more dimples... V:;  This was the beginning of an amazing Olive hatch!!!  I said it was amazing, but for me, it was very challenging.  I only managed just a handful of fish...these Olives were an 18 at best, if not smaller.  It was amazing...it lasted for about 45 minutes to an hour of just non-stop struggling adults blowing across the surface of the water with those little brownies exploding on them!  The hatch didn't end abruptly either, it gradually tapered off, but I continued to see Olives up until about 3:30. 

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Since I was a small kid, I have had a slight fascination with trains.  Part of my excitement for the trip was the potential to see a train.  After the BWO hatch tapered off, my train finally came through.  Something very odd happened though!  This train came to a complete stop and not a second later, it started going again.  Usually, if a train stops in this section, two trains are passing each other.  I wonder if he wanted to make sure that the tracks were switched properly?!?!

B&W?

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From 3 or 3:30 until about 4:30, I sat and watched in Wooly's favorite place...nothing...

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One more month, and it should get real good!

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 01, 2014, 21:58:58 pm
 'c;
"A", for effort.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 03, 2014, 22:49:56 pm
Went up today because fishing in the shit gets the Karma primed up for the good weather. It snowed a lot. I cursed a lot. Re-layered a lot. covered a shit ton of new water moved some fish and snagged a couple. Sun came out and was quite beautiful. The way home was interesting, saw a large fire in Martinsville, saw a truck flipped into the oncoming lane sitting on its roof on 158, saw a cop slid out into a guardrail under a 40-biz bridge. glad I made it home without dying  V:;.  It was a facking war zone out there. If i see one more chick in uggs my shit will be lost, ready for spring and chicks in sun dresses.. jeebus

Fish of the day

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/0100C84B-0D6E-4449-B271-A64E77FB1C55_zpsjrmsyqga.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/0100C84B-0D6E-4449-B271-A64E77FB1C55_zpsjrmsyqga.jpg.html)

Contenders

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/1A41A917-A3F8-4B7F-BF0D-A076C749CEAA_zpsdtaaui76.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/1A41A917-A3F8-4B7F-BF0D-A076C749CEAA_zpsdtaaui76.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/201B46DB-45A3-4782-9E3F-469FF65EC071_zpsx1f8rkfn.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/201B46DB-45A3-4782-9E3F-469FF65EC071_zpsx1f8rkfn.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/C943E4CF-FEE3-4733-ABF5-323F3E3427C8_zpskrdjam5u.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/C943E4CF-FEE3-4733-ABF5-323F3E3427C8_zpskrdjam5u.jpg.html)

Swung through Martinsville to hit the Exxon with the cheap gas and saw a large plume of smoke, then balls of flame started spouting out of it so I pulled over and ate a sandwich and watched that shit burn. Fire trucks whizzed by, I need a better camera, but there's better pics online now anyway. Hopefully Martinsville is still on the map and everyone survived.

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/D677225F-C5CA-4A85-B5CF-B7C6A15D5621_zpsg5c1rluw.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/D677225F-C5CA-4A85-B5CF-B7C6A15D5621_zpsg5c1rluw.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/57C31803-B20F-44EB-8977-BD93DD9FB3CC_zpsyfz7zio8.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/57C31803-B20F-44EB-8977-BD93DD9FB3CC_zpsyfz7zio8.jpg.html)

And then sat behind a fire truck for 30 minutes while they flipped a 95' ferd Ranger off its roof, shit was crazy today, Hide yo kids and or wife

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/895A4D48-A08D-49EE-A87B-5C873C3103F5_zpshnx42o3b.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/895A4D48-A08D-49EE-A87B-5C873C3103F5_zpshnx42o3b.jpg.html)










Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on March 03, 2014, 23:36:33 pm
I saw a dude in Uggs just now at the wally world in Grants Pass.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Aka on March 04, 2014, 07:44:02 am

Quote from: RiverbumCO on March 03, 2014, 23:36:33 pm
I saw a dude in Uggs just now at the wally world in Grants Pass.


West coast, totally different. Now if said ugh wearer were a bit closer to brookings there'd be a good chance the body weren't found fer a few years.
You doing any fishing out there?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on March 04, 2014, 09:30:16 am
Had guy I know who is a jacked body builder who grew up in California who wears uggs.  He is odd.  I saw him catch a mouse with his bare hands and microwave it.  He is very very odd.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 04, 2014, 17:20:42 pm
4 chicks in my Accounting class this morning with varied colors of UGGs, and one who had the foresight to wear her hooker boots, I love accounting

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on March 04, 2014, 19:58:14 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on March 04, 2014, 17:20:42 pm
I love accounting


Said no one ever.  Even accountants hate accounting.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 04, 2014, 21:44:10 pm

Quote from: Big J on March 04, 2014, 19:58:14 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on March 04, 2014, 17:20:42 pm
I love accounting


Said no one ever.  Even accountants hate accounting.


You sir, have never been to an accountant convention!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on March 04, 2014, 21:53:56 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 04, 2014, 21:44:10 pm


You sir, have never been to an accountant convention!


I take great pride in saying no I have not.  I did have one guy who interned at the company I work for who was majoring in accounting and he thought it was the coolest thing since sliced bread.  He hated working with me.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 04, 2014, 22:25:57 pm
Big-J just come sit in on my class, apparently young women in their early morning skankerwear love accounting which is funny cause I thought the remedial math would be more their flavor

But seriously it helps to know what my accountant is doing, maybe even edge her outta the picture one day and keep mo of my hard earned money  -+;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on March 05, 2014, 03:01:16 am
Quote from: AK Aaron on March 04, 2014, 07:44:02 am

Quote from: RiverbumCO on March 03, 2014, 23:36:33 pm
I saw a dude in Uggs just now at the wally world in Grants Pass.


West coast, totally different. Now if said ugh wearer were a bit closer to brookings there'd be a good chance the body weren't found fer a few years.
You doing any fishing out there?


Let me explain further, "set the stage" so to speak.  He was wearing those middle-school-math-teacher-thick-brown-rimmed-aviator-shaped-bottle-cap glasses, a camo and khaki vest with way too many pockets, a camo hat, a camo and khaki fanny pack (wish i was making this up, really tried to get a pic), mesh-6"-above-the-knee basketball shorts and motherfucking no bullshit mudstained ugg boots.  I had plenty of time to double check.  That shit occurred.  Total bottom feeder.

On a brighter note, the TV show Portlandia is totally true best i can tell.

Drove thru Brookings, floated 24 miles in 7 days, TR to come.  Glad my new friend Aaron knows Arregon.
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 06, 2014, 09:49:56 am
Serial killer status, prolly took the uggs off a victim hence the mud
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 10, 2014, 12:04:50 pm


http://youtu.be/mQ2Fhl8ORSE (http://youtu.be/mQ2Fhl8ORSE)

I sent a text to "Mr. I'm a Big Time Steelheader Now", to see if he wanted to explore some more of the mighty Smith River. But, he had no time for the moody trout of the Virginia Tailwater, and he suggested that I should give NCsporksman at try. He wasn't too busy and we left Winston with a cup of coffee from Krankies the next morning.

The river was up a little and stained, we went in at the "Dead Baby" hole. I let the Sporksman lead the way, offering up first chance at the good looking runs. I tried to let him have the far side of the run too, but he insisted that it was my turn and he thought my articulated peanut envy had a better profile in the murky water. Working from top towards the tail I turned a good fish in the middle, I saw it roll on the fly which was perhaps a foot below the surface. A little while later and a little further down the run a good fish slammed the fly. The Spork was kind enough to net it and take the hero shot... While removing the hook, I managed to scrape my finger against the upper teeth of this boy and I notice that I was dripping blood as I released the fish. This was a good fish for the Smith and I declared 'I'm done!', meaning that one fish would make the day, I didn't expect that it would be our last fish. Next time this happens, I going to say, "Nice way to START the day!" so as not to put the jinx on us again.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-9.jpg)

We fished on for a while there and then moved on to another location where we were surprised to see two other NC trucks in the parking lot. We spied the anglers and made a move to high hole them only to discover they were BRFFF friends, PeeWee and Dean, they were nymphing and weren't planning to hit the high holes in these water conditions. As we negotiated the slick rocks we noticed that the water was getting muddier, taking on a coffee color. The water was really pushing through the runs and it didn't look good. Spork turned a good fish up against the bank in an eddy but that was the only fish we saw up there. Time for lunch and some brewski.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-4.jpg)

We relocated upstream and stuck out there too. Later we moved on down to the middle section and gave it out last shot at the honey hole. We didn't see any fish, the water was too cloudy to even see a follow. Hiking down to find some more structure, we noticed a kayaker paddling up the river. I wondered where he had put in. "We're going to scare the hell out of him," I commented before I called out "Hello." "Wooly," came the reply from the river. It was BRFFFer FIN in the yak.  "Is there anybody you don't know on the river," commented the Spork. It was quite a coincidence to see someone floating on the river as we had been talking about doing that earlier.  Now all I need is a towee and a jet drive....

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/030914-8.jpg)



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 10, 2014, 12:13:10 pm
Quite the traffic jam on the Smiff. Sunshine brings all the cretins to the river.
Nice fish.  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on March 10, 2014, 12:16:57 pm
QuoteHiking down to find some more structure, we noticed a kayaker paddling up the river. I wondered where he had put in. "We're going to scare the hell out of him," I commented before I called out "Hello."


Dang right you scared the hell out of me!  I hear someone call out, look up and see some disheveled looking homeless dude in fatigues standing in the bushes, drinking a beer.  I nearly went overboard.  It was good to see you guys after I got over my initial shock.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on March 10, 2014, 12:27:00 pm
Fin is the gatekeeper.

Nice hero shot!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 10, 2014, 21:05:57 pm
lol disheveled homeless dude, not dudes, glad I got a haircut Saturday  -0-


Started w  a couple of these

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/689E8B40-8493-40B4-8A44-E8412DAA2222_zpsp6gb9vm9.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/689E8B40-8493-40B4-8A44-E8412DAA2222_zpsp6gb9vm9.jpg.html)

Keith floggin a honey hole that provided no honey

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/3B9403E8-16F5-4A70-8235-3454716B8DDE_zpscdpadzif.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/3B9403E8-16F5-4A70-8235-3454716B8DDE_zpscdpadzif.jpg.html)

Streamer weather or bust

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/FA255050-73A7-410F-8E0E-3BB153A51D7B_zpsrrcz3jx3.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/FA255050-73A7-410F-8E0E-3BB153A51D7B_zpsrrcz3jx3.jpg.html)

will be back with these

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/E8F14BF4-D776-4C1E-9B63-379E9C4D6DC0_zpsdnsduhtg.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/E8F14BF4-D776-4C1E-9B63-379E9C4D6DC0_zpsdnsduhtg.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 10, 2014, 21:38:26 pm
Now you're choosing wisely. Olive, amber and gray would be good additions.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 10, 2014, 23:43:30 pm
Going to beat the sporkster to the river (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/11/myburuna.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 12, 2014, 12:00:58 pm


http://youtu.be/gp5JCrSXkJY (http://youtu.be/gp5JCrSXkJY)

Sunny and in the 70s, sitting at the coffee bar with my laptop finishing up some work, the barista ask when I'm going fishing again. I thought about it for a few seconds and said, "Now"! I called the powerhouse to check the generation schedule and found that I could fish the upper river till close to dark.

The water is cold enough to warrant waders all year round, but the air felt warm enough to wet wade. I hiked in, the clear sky high UV day was beating down and it felt good to finally set into the chilly waters of the Smith. While rigging up the rod and breaking out the 7x, I noticed BWOs mixed in with the usual midges. The long slick pool was running clear and the leafless trees provided only broken shade. "Gulp", a trout rose. There were a few other fish who hit the surface but nothing steady, I tied on a #22 emerging midge pattern and went to work. I caught a couple of the small resident brown trout and took a picture with the phone as the Olympus TG-1 was at home.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031114-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031114-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031114-3.jpg)

I searched the river for rising fish, but didn't find any in the runs and riffles where the BOWs were hatching. If  I had beer with me I would have called rule 11 and drank a few while waiting for the river to light up. Instead I found a comfortable spot on the bank to lay down and watch the river for a while. Hawks were soaring on the thermals and a beaver crossed the river above me, silently paddling in a straight line to the other side. The bugs were really starting to come off and there were egg layers as well I saw bugs emerge and float down through the feeding lanes for 30 or 40 seconds totally ignored and unmolested by the trout which I was certain were lurking down below and that at any moment would begin to rise regularly. I just relaxed and waited. Closing my eyes I saw the rubber legs of the streamers I had been tying. Then a red ever changing red orb floating above the river, I relaxed and began deep breathing then drifting off listening to the riffle above to the left and the other one downstream, mixed with birds chirping. I was almost asleep, when the sound of a trout rising brought me back to focus on the river. I waited and continued to watch, the trout rose again, "Could this be the beginning", I wondered. An hour had passed and there were only two hours left to fish. This effort to do nothing may have been brought on by a joke I read earlier in the day, "A Buddhist Monk approaches a hotdog stand and says, "Make me one with everything".

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031114-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031114-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031114-7.jpg)

The trout never rose, but I did find a couple who were willing to take a BWO parachute. Spring is here, the hatches will only get better and the fish will rise. Next up Sulfurs!

When I got home this was waiting for me.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031114-8.jpg)

What's up with the integrated rod sock divider thingy?
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031114-9.jpg)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Feather Chucker on March 12, 2014, 12:16:37 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 04, 2014, 21:44:10 pm

Quote from: Big J on March 04, 2014, 19:58:14 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on March 04, 2014, 17:20:42 pm
I love accounting


Said no one ever.  Even accountants hate accounting.


You sir, have never been to an accountant convention!


Must be like a pharmaceutical rep convention. Basically any kind of sales convention usually has some talent.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Rhody on March 12, 2014, 12:32:04 pm
we need to go break in that 6 wt., nice writin
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 12, 2014, 14:47:39 pm

Quote from: Rhody on March 12, 2014, 12:32:04 pm
we need to go break in that 6 wt., nice writin


SoHo Saturday is looking good
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 12, 2014, 15:08:41 pm
You have much patience, Grasshopper. Sitting and observing. With brewski, of course.



I would have been throwing the whole fly box at them.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 12, 2014, 15:41:32 pm
I'm with D-fish, why drive to the river just to sit there, didn't have ya pegged for a Buddhist...hippie maybe
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on March 12, 2014, 21:39:52 pm
Sometimes you just have to take in what God made!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bmeador on March 15, 2014, 22:15:24 pm
Fished Friday after generation till dark - 830 to 330 Saturday.  Friday was pretty good.  Landed 8 browns with 2 being 12 - 13 inches,  all on a streamer.  Got into a pool loaded with stockers and took 6 home.

Sat. was tougher.  Only brought 3 to hand.  Wind was terrible.  Very sporadic stones started popping off around 1030.  Up in the top end of the SRA,  BWO and Blue Quills started coming off really good around 1230 - saw a couple of stones in the mix.  Only saw a single fish take a dry off the surface.  The wind was blowing straight down the river and it was tough to get a decent cast! 

All in all it was a wonderful day, LOTS of company from Stanleytown bridge all the way up.  The rock is where the beverages came out and my day was over...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 15, 2014, 23:03:03 pm
4 months and have yet to see a fish take a dry on that river
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 16, 2014, 06:57:33 am
Good job! More times than not, the wind is coming right down that river.  b';

Glad to see you posting.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on March 16, 2014, 20:55:16 pm
Found a couple of bigger ones today eating meat...........

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P1010170_zps37589f1f.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/22midge/media/P1010170_zps37589f1f.jpg.html)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/P1010173_zps3a9ad9e5.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/22midge/media/P1010173_zps3a9ad9e5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bmeador on March 16, 2014, 21:10:01 pm
Very nice feesh!  Congrats!   'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Rod Champion on March 16, 2014, 21:13:38 pm
you got that gig figured out don't you Midge.
Very nice !
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 16, 2014, 21:18:37 pm
Dayun peewee you be tearing them up!


I caught one and turned five others, while Spork also caught one and turned three or four others.


Pics to follow
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 17, 2014, 14:58:40 pm

http://youtu.be/An2a1_Do_fc (http://youtu.be/An2a1_Do_fc)

Spork wanted to fish, rain was coming, we left as early as possible after a Saturday night. He said 7, I said 8, to which he replied, "I thought old people got up early".  I did a little recon on Saturday and broke in the Sage Response, catching a nice brown on the swing. This is perhaps the worst fish photo that I've taken. Shot with the iPhone which does not have a waterproof case. So I'm paranoid about dropping it in the water. Ended the day after losing both articulated flies.. Tied up two more, running low on marabou and hooks... First fish on the Double L replacement rod, a Sage Response.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031514-1.jpg)

This fish looks like a pune in this pic but it was over 14", it was stuffed full of a bait fish, the tail was just sticking out of its mouth, no room to swallow anything else but it still hit the fly.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031514-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031514-3.jpg)

I got to the coffee shop with 20 minutes to spare, while waiting for Spork to show up I went over THE LIST in my head, "Fuck! I forgot the rain jacket", I thought! "Just enough time to drive home and get it, it wasn't even an option. When I returned it was exactly 8:00.  Settled in for the long ride after hitting Sheetze Autofood Mart thing. I get the auto menu thing, but why can't I just swipe a card right there?

Geared up and hiked on in with high hopes. Water looked awesome, little satin two foot visibility... rocks slick as anywhere, need to all more cleats to the boots and remember to take the wading staff. The Spork got knocked down a time or two and I came damn close to taking a spill.

Turned some fish and then got a solid. Glad I had the Olympus with me..

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031614-2.jpg)

Trout lilies pushing up, spring is near, waiting on caddis hatch!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031614-3.jpg)

Rested the water and drank some of these.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031614-7.jpg)

Before getting back to tossing these.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031614-5.jpg)

Turned some more fish, fucked up a hookset or two... finally the Spork got into one.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/031614-16.jpg)

After seeing some of the huge mottled sculpin in this river we are going to tie up bigger flies..


Bugger out.





Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 17, 2014, 15:14:49 pm
Now that's what we're talking about!  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bmeador on March 17, 2014, 17:56:10 pm
Good Job!!  Better than any I landed.   bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creekfreak on March 17, 2014, 20:26:01 pm
Nice!! Got them studs just for that river, see what the weather does this week.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on March 17, 2014, 20:56:46 pm
Here piggy, piggy!  I just wish those had the coloration of their upper kinfolk... bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 17, 2014, 22:39:05 pm
Quote from: consumnfire1229 on March 17, 2014, 20:56:46 pm
Here piggy, piggy!  I just wish those had the coloration of their upper kinfolk... bd;0


Truth....Thought I'd hung a stray rainbow until he was in the net, straight silver

slick rocks and too much turbo-dog the nite before got my ass... woolly looked like a fugging zen ass heron wading next to me and he was multiple beers deep

Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 24, 2014, 11:40:39 am


Beetle called, "Let's go fishing Sunday!" "Okay, it's going to rain! Bring streamers and sink tip!", I reply. I was going anyway, the weather report sounded too iffy to make the three hour drive to TN so we selected a stream a little closer to home. I tied up a coupled of extra flies.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/032314-6.jpg)

In the morning the weather wasn't too bad, warmer than forecast and the rain hadn't started.
We hiked in and stripped streamers, nothing turned, changed flies still nothing. Beetle spied three big fish but they had lockjaw. I went on down to a run where I had turned a good fish last week, having a wading staff helped on the snot covered rocks. I worked into position, studied the water, stripped out some line, and cast into the run. BOOM! Fish on! After removing the hook the fish slashed out and those brown trout teeth caught my finger.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/032314-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/032314-5.jpg)

The rain started, and we fished on. Beetle had a big brown on the line, it hit the Peanut Envy that I tied (inspired by Kell G and Matt G) but the trout set allowed the fish to evade capture.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/032314-3.jpg)

Beetle called an early day and I celebrated with a Hopslam!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/3/032314-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 24, 2014, 11:54:05 am
Weee doggie! That's a nice fish!  bd;0

The big boys do have some "update your tetanus booster" teeth.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Transylwader on March 24, 2014, 11:55:35 am
I think Im gonna head to the shitter for an ego boost, since I can't fish this Smith River n all...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on March 24, 2014, 19:56:58 pm
nice fish Woolly ....the rain got there a little to soon .
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: _Fish_Pimp on March 24, 2014, 22:11:28 pm
sweet fishy
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on March 24, 2014, 22:23:03 pm
It's no carp but, I guess it's better than sitting at home
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Transylwader on March 24, 2014, 22:28:29 pm
You WS bearded fuckers are a weird bunch...where the cunter is my blasted invite?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 24, 2014, 22:44:38 pm
Tranny,
You have been very social on the boards in the past few. Giddy, playful. You even took Dylar fishing. Humanitarian-like.
Ah Spring. It brings lovers, combatants, territorial males, and compliant hens into a social whirling dervish that leaves us breathless, and in awe. And then the Saffa with a 2 wt and a 18 pack of PBR entered the field. Screenplay by Homer. Should be an epic spring for you. And the casual observer. Carry on.

But just to be clear, you don't want a piece of the Smith. It wants a piece of you.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Beetle on March 25, 2014, 08:34:14 am
Last time I invited Tranny to fish- I never heard back from him.   I spotted him cruising through WS on the way to "something way more epic".   He gave me the finger and hightailed it to wherever he was going to catch 5" brookies, break rods and get arrested.    :P

Sound about right Keith?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 25, 2014, 09:01:01 am
It got a piece of me yesterday, all up in my waders and only a dink brown to show fer it all, fack!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on March 25, 2014, 09:37:22 am
the old gal has enough slick rocks to keep you honest...........every once in awhile you have to write her a check.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 25, 2014, 10:09:58 am
Tranny, you know the door to the Smith is always open... -+;

Spork is going to have to take a loan to cover the debt the river is collecting...
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2014, 11:02:40 am
No photos, no fish, from a Sunday visit to the river on race weekend. Water and wind were up, tossed a green sex dungeon. Moved a nice fish right off the bat, then found an eager bastard who hit the fly four times, coming completely out of the water twice, it failed to swallow. Water was pushing hard with an extra 125 cfs. That wind was monstrous and almost blew me into the drink several times.

Thought I had the race traffic beat but stop lights on 158 were all backed up, it took an extra 30 minutes to get home.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Transylwader on March 31, 2014, 11:20:13 am
I want a piece of this beat down the Smiff claims she dishes. I bet it's served...cold.
Im flex. Beetle, I haven't been arrested in 9 months. /'/
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2014, 11:36:03 am
Quote from: Transylwader on March 31, 2014, 11:20:13 am
I haven't been arrested in 9 months. /'/


a bit overdue, aren't you? :;!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 31, 2014, 11:37:20 am
Quote from: Transylwader on March 31, 2014, 11:20:13 am
I want a piece of this beat down the Smiff claims she dishes. I bet it's served...cold.
Im flex. Beetle, I haven't been arrested in 9 months. /'/


Looks like an interesting April lining up for you, pune.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Transylwader on March 31, 2014, 11:43:32 am
Quote from: Dougfish on March 31, 2014, 11:37:20 am
Quote from: Transylwader on March 31, 2014, 11:20:13 am
I want a piece of this beat down the Smiff claims she dishes. I bet it's served...cold.
Im flex. Beetle, I haven't been arrested in 9 months. /'/


Looks like an interesting April lining up for you, pune.

We'll make it OUR lovefest. April, she's a chick, not the overrated steelie queen, the news reporter from The Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles. :;!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 31, 2014, 11:53:12 am
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 14, 2014, 15:22:42 pm



http://youtu.be/0y8Q2PATVyI (http://youtu.be/0y8Q2PATVyI)


For your Monday viewing pleasure, I bring to you a few spring hours spent on a Virginia tail water. I wanted to get to the water early, but it's not always easy to rise early on a Sunday morning, but I still managed to get there before nine and there were some shadows reaching out across the runs I planned to fish. I went with a olive peanut envy based on past experiences on this water. Nothing, no follows, not strikes, nothing at all. I noticed some boot prints on the way in and wondered how hard the river had been hammered on Saturday. Were the fish sulking in the depths? I changed flies, several times, to no avail, before moving on down to the next run, a fishy looking place, where I had never caught or even seen a trout before. A pretty significant caddis hatch was going on and the flies were dapping the water in their final glory. I was now casting a white Zoo Cougar which I acquired from the Ditch Monkey a few years back, spun hair is something I haven't mastered, the fly looked alive in the waters as stripes caused it to flutter in an appetizing manner. Working from close to far, the last casts were up against a submerged tree. Strip, Strip, Strip, Bam! Fish on. The smallest brown from this section, but a fine specimen non the less. Despite working more water, my one fish streak continued. The sun was now high in the bluebird sky and any confidence of getting a trout to strike had faded in the bright light.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 14, 2014, 15:52:02 pm
 'c;
But do you now plan on streamer fishing exclusively? Even on a blueline in two weeks?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on April 14, 2014, 15:52:04 pm
AH YISSS!

#woollyselfies
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Beetle on April 14, 2014, 16:30:10 pm
I have found Mrs. Smith to be a total bitch.   

Nice going Bugger!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on April 16, 2014, 16:51:16 pm
Deer hunting is my passion so it has been awhile since I did any serious fishing. With urban archery season behind us I have no excuse - well maybe a little excuse because I'm now scouting for next season and moving stands.  Deer hunting for me never really ends. Anyway the generation schedule did not kick in until late afternoon this past Monday so I hit a section of the Smith River.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0266_zps3d8e3bbb.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0266_zps3d8e3bbb.jpg.html)
Maybe some of you guys with photographic memories and eagle eyes can figure out this secret spot.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0265_zps26c36ebd.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0265_zps26c36ebd.jpg.html)
It took about five hits before I was able to close the deal with this small Smith River Brown. I was fishing a soft hackle dropped off my traditional Allieworm. This particular section had a lot of ditty-mo which made me shorten the distance from the indicator to avoid globs of ditty-mo AKA "rock snot".

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0268_zps2612c110.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0268_zps2612c110.jpg.html)
Before too long I got into a pod of stocked Rainbows. Kudos to DGIF for stocking some nice size fish.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0269_zpsf048a61f.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0269_zpsf048a61f.jpg.html)
I now look at Rainbows on the Smith as competition for the limited food source so creeled a limit of six for the skillet. You eagle eyed folks will note the soft hackle is holding it's own.

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I finally caught a decent brown which would have been protected under the 10-24 inch slot limit.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0278_zps572d1197.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0278_zps572d1197.jpg.html)
I was about to dump my entire fly box of Alliworms in the river when this small Brown fell for the old standby. This was followed by several more of about the same size. Probably a good thing because I have so many Allieworms if I'd chucked them all in the stream I could have been cited for creating a hazardous waste dump.

Well there ya have it. I now have something to do while waiting for deer season to roll around again. Hmmmmm, now let's see - I still need to move the deer stand down near the old stump about 15 feet to the left.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on April 16, 2014, 20:14:35 pm
Glad you got out, Al!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 16, 2014, 20:38:06 pm
Glad you got some fish to break up that venison diet! ;D

'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 17, 2014, 18:47:44 pm
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/18/eza6aguj.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/18/da8yvu2y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/18/evy7yqe2.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/18/abe6u8y4.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/18/ba2a7asa.jpg)

What to do on Thursday afternoon?
Hit the upper Smith! Flow was up much higher than usual so I was forced to throw a small woolly bugger in the black variety, the fish agreed. Brought an easy dozen to hand.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on April 17, 2014, 22:11:52 pm
Good show Woolly. I'm beginning to think bigger fly, bigger fish.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 21, 2014, 12:04:56 pm


Conditions were going to be very favorable for a trip up in search of Leroy. When I arrive at the river, I saw that Peewee and Dean had the same idea. As I hiked in footprints revealed that they had already fished the top end of the fishable water. But I was confident that with the strong cloud cover and spit of rain that I could entice a strike. I worked the runs that had produced in the past and cursed by friends when I failed to turn a fish.  Moving on down to a large pool, precariously perched on top of a bolder for additional reach, I cast a Zoo Cougar, strip, strip, and a follow, with a slashing short strike.  "Damn, that was huge," adrenaline pumping, I cast again, and on the swing the trout rose completely out of the water attacking the fly. "Strip set," I silently commanded, and I felt the weight and the tug as the trout went down in a frothing tail slapping dive. The fish was lost, became unbuttoned, and I cursed loudly enough to turn Dean's head 100 yard down river.

Later, I worked a run that I had fished many time before without seeing a fish, but this time a large trout struck the streamer, and I was already anticipating a celebratory beer, when I lost that fish too! WTF? A close inspection of the fly revealed a rock dulled hook. Argggg, "my bad," as they say. "I will sharpen my hooks, I will sharpen my hooks, I will sharpen my hook . . .

I somehow managed to fuck up another hookset before heading back to the car, Peewee and Dean were there, they had caught a few, mostly with stoneflies. I moved on to another part of the river and on the way in stumbled across a patch of Morels. "Well, even without catching a trout, this isn't a bad day after all."

I worked all my favorite runs and hooked another large brown, but my streak of suk continued, I was anticipating taking a photo when this fish managed to shake loose. I continued on in a funk but determined to catch a fish. Finally one came to hand, the smallest fish that I've caught on this part on the river, but a brown trout none the less.

Hiking back to the car I discovered another patch of Morels and picked a few more. On the way home, at dusk I went back to see in the big brown that I stuck earlier in day would come out to play again. No dice.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 21, 2014, 13:36:24 pm
Nice fungus haul.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on April 22, 2014, 06:08:01 am
Any part of the smith floatable with a drifter?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 22, 2014, 06:11:20 am
PM, Drifts.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on April 22, 2014, 06:58:02 am
The prob. with the ramps i have used on the smith (and many va waters) is they are not trailerable.   You can not back your trailer down to the water and launch your DB.  They have inconveniently placed a bollard or split rail fencing in the way of the boat ramp.  I don't know why VA had done this with many of the ramps, it sucks.  But I am itching to float the smith again so when your ready let me know. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 22, 2014, 10:55:52 am
When watching the sampling in the smith at the ramp, I saw that they removed the split rails to get their equipment down to the river.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on April 28, 2014, 11:24:50 am
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0434_zps720960a8.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0434_zps720960a8.jpg.html)
One of my fishing buddies won't let anyone photograph him with the stream in the background or with him holding a nice fish before he takes the fly out of it's mouth because he doesn't want to give away any secrets.  I fall in the other extreme.  Most of us are in it for fun and also doing  "catch and release"  so no secrets here. Besides that, in the case of the Smith, the more folks fish her the more clout we will have to help make changes necessary to return  her  to a world class trout fishery once again. Here is one of my favorite spots. I really had not planned to fish here Sunday morning but someone else was already fishing my original choice so I drove on and ended up here. I've been fishing the Smith for over twenty years and don't really have a favorite spot. I've mentally broken up the river into sections based on ease of entry and exit points - they are all good if you fish them right.


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It took more time then I like to admit for the first fish to come to the net. I'm now keeping stocked rainbows on the Smith because they compete with the stream spawned browns for the limited food.  I'm hoping for a limit of six before I shuffle my feet forward to my "get out" point.


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0439_zps387c3bd7.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0439_zps387c3bd7.jpg.html)
Caught a lot of browns - not many required the net but if they have any size at all  I've found it easier to control them for a photo when you're standing waist deep in water.


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0435_zps0727796d.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0435_zps0727796d.jpg.html)
The real small ones get the wet hand light grip treatment. I see a couple flies on display but they don't show very well so let me reveal I was fishing an Allieworm about 2 feet under a yarn indicator  with a zebra midge dropped about a foot below the AW. The zebra midge got most of the play on Sunday, however this particular fish fell for the AW.


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0437_zps8b6f052c.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0437_zps8b6f052c.jpg.html)
A half dozen rainbows committed suicide by the time I approached my predetermined exit point.


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0445_zps6f251aaf.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0445_zps6f251aaf.jpg.html)
Ok, here is where things go astray. My creel is one of those "keep it cool" canvas types which straps to your waist and rides in the water if you're wading fairly deep. I'm small framed without much in the way of hips so the full creel was slipping down. I unhooked it with the intention of tightening the waist strap. It was full of water so I turned it up to lighten the load. Much to my feeble brains astonishment the fish poured out right along with the water. I was able to corral four of them but two sank out of sight never to be seen again.


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0449_zpse8239520.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0449_zpse8239520.jpg.html)
Every fish I caught after that bone headed mishap was a brown trout so there were no replacements. What the heck - it makes for a good story anyway. Great morning. In  my opinion the Smith is fishing very well. I saw a lot of midges but no splashes or swirls to indicate the fish were keying on them or anything else. Nymphing is the way to put a bend in your rod most of the time. That could change shortly because we are approaching the 2-3 week period of great sulphur hatches and right after that it will be time to try beetles and ants.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: flyrod on May 02, 2014, 20:59:17 pm
Hey, I just recently retired in March.  Been wanting to fish the Smith during the Spring sulfur hatch.  This past wed. and thur.  I got the chance to fish in the afternoon.  Been having some luck and really enjoying myself.  Here are a few pics of many, all on a sulfur pattern.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/flyrod5w/2014-05-01033007_zps2689cccd.jpg) (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/flyrod5w/media/2014-05-01033007_zps2689cccd.jpg.html)(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/flyrod5w/2014-05-01030806_zpsd496a00f.jpg) (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/flyrod5w/media/2014-05-01030806_zpsd496a00f.jpg.html)(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/flyrod5w/2014-04-30033758_zps1bd1a4f4.jpg) (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/flyrod5w/media/2014-04-30033758_zps1bd1a4f4.jpg.html)(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/flyrod5w/2014-05-01033010_zps86e16b5a.jpg) (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/flyrod5w/media/2014-05-01033010_zps86e16b5a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on May 02, 2014, 21:13:47 pm
 nice work flyrod..........guess them yeller corks are finally here . Glad you are getting some time on the water. Be safe
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 03, 2014, 08:08:59 am
Good stuff. The rain messed with my mid-week plans. Maybe I'll see you next week.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 04, 2014, 20:40:30 pm
Good work Dean.

I was up this past weekend and fished with a couple friends who had never fly fished before. Challenging but they all caught a few fish  - will post more tomorrow. Saw some bugs but did not see enough surface activity to make me fish on top. May try to key on them next time I am up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: rford on May 05, 2014, 06:11:23 am
I saw some bugs flying, but I did not see any fish rising to get them.  I tried some dry flies without any success on the dries.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 05, 2014, 09:04:52 am
Quote from: rford on May 05, 2014, 06:11:23 am
I saw some bugs flying, but I did not see any fish rising to get them.  I tried some dry flies without any success on the dries.


Flies in the air but no surface activity -  try emergers and soft hackles unless of course you just like to practice your casting.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: outdoorguy3 on May 05, 2014, 11:14:30 am
Soft hackles..........do they work?

Ralph ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 05, 2014, 21:12:53 pm
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0457_zpscc6e498a.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0457_zpscc6e498a.jpg.html)
It is not every day you get a chance to link up with old army buddies to play the "do you remember" game and at the same time share with them the passion many of us have for fly fishing. We did just that this past weekend when the executive officer (XO) from my company commander days in the 82nd Airborne and one of the lieutenants from a sister company and their wives were guests at my "get away" place in Bassett, VA.  None of them had ever fly fished but having read some of my fishing reports knew if old Captain K could do it, it must be pretty easy.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0455_zps8ab2ef45.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0455_zps8ab2ef45.jpg.html)
First things first. How about a little casting instruction on the lawn? "Hmmmmmm, why does my line keep collapsing in a big mess right in front of my rod tip?"

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0453_zpsaa2abf80.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0453_zpsaa2abf80.jpg.html)
The sister company officer from "back in the day" suffered a stoke about 15 years ago and wisely decided fly fishing might not be on his bucket  list. 

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0501_zps4e761e5b.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0501_zps4e761e5b.jpg.html)
His wife however, took to it like a duck takes to water.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0475_zps172ddcbf.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0475_zps172ddcbf.jpg.html)
Wade, cast, place the line under your finger, point the rod tip towards the indicator, keep slack line to a minimum - WOW, Captain K. is still a hard taskmaster.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0471_zps9b567042.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0471_zps9b567042.jpg.html)
It is funny how a fish brought to hand changes a frustrated frown to a big smile.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0511_zps51aa1dfe.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0511_zps51aa1dfe.jpg.html)
"Hold on there - I'm putting one on the scoreboard for the ladies"

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0518_zps25ade714.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0518_zps25ade714.jpg.html)
"You're going home with me buddy. Al says we can keep rainbows"

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0467_zpsf643767a.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0467_zpsf643767a.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/IMGP0497_zps330525ae.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/IMGP0497_zps330525ae.jpg.html)
There are a lot of nice stream spawned browns and plump stocked rainbows available right now.  It is not easy pickings but if you can cast about two rod lengths beyond your rod tip you can catch them.  Just remember to control your slack line and watch the indicator!

It was great reconnecting with old friends. Just sitting there BS-ing made me recall things I have not remembered in years.  I am honored they saw me in such a positive light. Another plus was we did a little touring around my adopted hometown of Martinsville / Henry County. We also ran into several folks who knew me and dropped a few dollars on the local economy. Life is good.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 05, 2014, 21:22:02 pm
Nice, Al.
See you shortly. We'll see if you can use a new pattern. ....or need it.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on May 10, 2014, 22:37:34 pm


I woke up at 4:30 this morning and hit the turkey woods.  Those of you who do not know me or care to know a little bit more about me, I am an avid whitetail deer  and turkey hunter.  I didn't connect with a turkey with the good ol' 12 gauge, but it was by far the most exciting turkey hunt I have ever had. 

Now to Sulphurs!  I left the house around 4:15 p.m. to meet up with pwooley to see if we could capitalize on an evening sulphur hatch...I'll let the pics and video take care of the rest...

Doug porn...

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Odd find...Mudwall??

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Doing some "waiting"

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Crappy pic, but you get the idea!

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The vid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOGbVKhw-sY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOGbVKhw-sY&feature=youtu.be)

Until next time...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on May 10, 2014, 23:20:15 pm
Nice hatch
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 11, 2014, 03:02:13 am
Game on!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 11, 2014, 07:12:20 am
Good stuff, dude! I hope they are stay playing at the end of the week.

And in true fashion, Paul is talking loud enough so anyone with a quarter mile can hear him.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 11, 2014, 15:17:34 pm
That "Doing some waiting" photo reminded me of why I don't get excited about a sulphur hatch.

Went there one time with with Paul and there were several others, including Mudwall staking out their spot. We got into line and stood on one leg with rod pointing to the water - sort of like a bird dog pointing out a covey of quail.  Paul and Muddy thought  it was sacrilegious but I caught 2-3 with my AW while waiting. The hatch was pretty sparse that evening and did not come until dark which made it 1-2 fish and you're done - Lot's of "ya should have been here last night" stories on the walk back to the parking lot. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on May 11, 2014, 15:54:56 pm
Quote from: Al on May 11, 2014, 15:17:34 pm
That "Doing some waiting" photo reminded me of why I don't get excited about a sulphur hatch.

Went there one time with with Paul and there were several others, including Mudwall staking out their spot. We got into line and stood on one leg with rod pointing to the water - sort of like a bird dog pointing out a covey of quail.  Paul and Muddy thought  it was sacrilegious but I caught 2-3 with my AW while waiting. The hatch was pretty sparse that evening and did not come until dark which made it 1-2 fish and you're done - Lot's of "ya should have been here last night" stories on the walk back to the parking lot.


I remember that evening, but what I don't remember is Al offering an AW or any other pattern to me or Paul.  Now that was "sacrilegious" and downright rude.     I have zero AWs in my box.  In fact I could not even identify the pattern.  There's probably a delicate message in this nonexistent transaction.  I have no real pals!!!

Good luck on the Smith gentlemen.  Duties pull me in a different direction.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 11, 2014, 20:30:03 pm
Come on down to the L&T shindig at Bassett Cabin this weekend Muddy - We'll have a good time and I'll even give you a couple AW.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on May 16, 2014, 14:55:31 pm


www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nexuAIKZmY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nexuAIKZmY)


Unsuspecting generosity in generation scheduling coupled with a solid chance of clouds and rain made Thursday the day to slug the Smiff. Woolly was down to skip work and play..I fished... he caught...dudes got mad mojo on this river..I rake over a spot til its beat and the man walks in and pulls the fish....."just cleanin up your mess dude"


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"Dude you gotta take a selfie in the rain" tis protocol?

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Then the ass fell outta the clouds... mass soaking occured... one more fish jumped my fly and thats a wrap  p;-

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This Man routinely outfishes me

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on May 16, 2014, 15:51:04 pm
Hes got my trout 'milk' for sure.  Warmwater...well lets just let him have his moment.
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 17, 2014, 07:15:33 am
I should have taken that big ass fly out on water, bet the beastly browns would have smashed it too.

Favorable generation schedule this week as well. All we need is another storm.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on May 17, 2014, 20:17:41 pm
I love me some selfies
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Deepblu505 on May 18, 2014, 15:12:01 pm
Thanks to the guys at the SRTU ,It was good to meet yall. And thanks to Al for the invite had a good time shoot the bull around the fire the last two nights, Look forward to coming up there again, maybe even cat some fish next time.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on May 18, 2014, 22:23:57 pm


On Friday, we met up at the cabin for some lyin' and tyin'.  There wasn't any tyin' going on while I was there, but some of the stuff I heard was definitely far from the truth. 

On falling water...

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I decided after Friday night, I was going to skip out on the rest of the outing.  My wife had been out of town on week, returning on Saturday.  Plus, there were a number of chores that needed to be completed around the house.  Dougfish, Pwolley and I discussed fishing the Sulphur hatch on Sunday evening.

I met up with Dougfish around 4:30 and Pwooley soon followed...

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Bug activity was sporadic early on...the fish would key in on emergers for about 2 or 3 min, and then it would shut off...

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Then the bottom fell out...

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Until next time...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on May 18, 2014, 22:31:36 pm
Dang.  I didn't know the Smith had hatches like that.  bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on May 18, 2014, 22:37:13 pm
Wish I could have made it up....
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on May 18, 2014, 23:02:12 pm
insanity...how are those fish still so dinkish...hope you guys ritualistically sacrificed those fitches on a bed of frisee with browned butter and toasted pecans,  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 18, 2014, 23:28:26 pm


http://youtu.be/nEjUfu9-W-w (http://youtu.be/nEjUfu9-W-w)

Three days of fishing.
Again.

I had not (gasp!) fished the Smith since early March. Our Lyin', Tyin' and Fishin' weekend fixed that for me.
Al has pics of the cabin festivities, I'll go straight to the river.
Fished a little at the cabin section before generation Friday and then after generation as the water fell. Caught fish, no home runs.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/ArfjcnqNvIj578joD-1IU7DD0n6ejYerNkZ2DZ_GAxiE=w720-h540-no)

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Saturday dawned cold. 42 friggin' degrees!
The evening's alcohol slowed everyone down and we tied some while savoring the coffee and smelling bacon frying.
Shane and I headed down to a usual haunt. Hendricksons and Cahills were coming off. Slow, but steady for four hours.

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Sunday came too fast. I started tying the blank fly that had proved to be the go to emerger yesterday.
Ugh, different day, rules changed. Oh, well. The Smith, if nothing else, is a classroom.

I fished by myself after we cleaned up, loaded and said our good byes.
I was going to go lower, but I could not account for all the people that the cars in the parking area allowed. I assumed some folks had beat me to it, so I jumped in at the same place as yesterday. Flat water? Nadda. Seams, riffles, slots? Bang!
I brought 12+ fish to hand and lost more in a few hours.
Hiked back to the car and got a brew and snack and tied some more flies while waiting on consumingfire and pwooly. There were still  two cars in the lot and Scott was freakin' thinking they were gonna be in "his" spot. One car load showed up just as we were ready to go.
The guy who was working toward the honey holes had dumbly decided to go down and flog the water that I had fished.
The sulfurs started to sputter off. Then they really picked up. But matching the emergers the fish were keying on was tough. It's a little unnerving to be looking through your fly box while trout are savagely eating all around you.

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Thanks to all the campers and day trippers for a fun weekend. Good to put some more faces to names!
We will have our June Meeting on the river and have our Fish w/A Friend immediately afterward. Look for a post on that.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 19, 2014, 20:35:18 pm

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Looking at the calendar and trying to figure a date for an event without conflicting with something else is near impossible these days. With that in mind SRTU stuck to it's guns and went with our originally announced schedule of Friday, Saturday and Sunday, May 16-18 for our Lying / Tying / Fishing at the Bassett Cabin which sits right on the bank of the dam or upper section of the Smith River. Considering everything else that was going on we had a pretty good turnout.
Some folks bunked at the cabin, some camped on the grounds and several who lived in the local area just came for the main events and went home for the evening. One thing is for sure, those who missed it, missed a heck of a good time and also missed some good fishing.
 
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Others have posted some good stories and photos on BRFFF about the fishing http://www.brfff.com/forum/index.php/topic,10127.0/topicseen.html (http://www.brfff.com/forum/index.php/topic,10127.0/topicseen.html)  so I will confine my post to happenings at the cabin with a little of the fishing thrown in where I was personally involved.  Photo above shows a couple Smith River Regulars waiting for "newbies" to show up so they could be greeted and pointed in the right direction.

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On Friday they were generating from 1-7pm so afternoon fishing was limited to the lower river ahead of the flow or the upper river during the last hour before dark once they shut the turbines off. I was there early so jumped ahead of the flow to see if the river was fishable after the recent rain which had dumped a lot of silt into the lower river. The section down through Bassett was cloudy but apparently the fish could see a nymph because I caught a half dozen like this before heading back to the cabin to help greet folks.

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We had two fishermen from Fayetteville NC show up in hopes of learning a little more about the closest trout stream to the majority of folks who live in eastern NC.  Just before the COE turned the turbines off I grabbed one of them and headed to the dam in hopes of catching a sulfur hatch on falling water. We had to wait a little before stepping in but as soon as the water started to receed you could see fish activity.

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I fished downstream and gave the riffle with all the activity to Eddie.

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I just knew we were going to tear them up but I went a long way before hooking this stocked rainbow. I added a couple of small brown trout to the tally before locating a "get out" point. The recent surge of 44 degree water was bone chilling cold. When I got back to the truck Eddie reported a similar experience, i.e. some activity but no spectacular hatches like we had hoped for.

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Prior to heading out we had been made the "designated pizza delivery team", so called ahead to Papa's Pizza where we dropped the better half of a century note on the local economy.  Pizza, a hot fire, good friends,  tall tales authenticated by a liberal flow of adult beverages - What more can a fisherman ask for?


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There was no generation over the weekend so we should have been up early and on the water but for some reason folks were late getting out of the sack.

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Once up no one was eager to be the first to head out. It seemed like most of the tying took place in the morning both days - folks were mumbling about trying to tie something that would match the hatch they had seen the evening before.

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Shane does a great job of whipping up breakfast.

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While the folks who had over indulged the night before got their act together a few tested the waters right in front of the cabin. We saw several fish rising there but if anyone caught them they did not reveal it to me.

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I took a different "newbie" to a well know spot. There had been a drastic change in the weather with a  cold front pushing through but we were determined to give the fish a try.

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It doesn't take long - at least half a dozen similar to this put a big grin on his face. I'm betting we have the makings of a "Smith River Regular" here.

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Saturday evening we had a big meal of barbequed pork with all the fixings washed down with the beverage of your choice.  I even tried a strawberry beer which tasted like strawberries (officer I've been eating strawberries all day - they must have  been spoiled and fermented in my bloodstream).

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Once again no early risers Sunday morning. The crowd has thinned a bit but Doug is determined to tie something which will match the hatch everyone saw the evening before.

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Got to give that pesky trout which has been giving us the finger for the past three days one more opportunity to commit suicide. It turns out it is still saying "are you kidding me - I'm not falling for that imitaiton".  Some of the diehards stuck around for the evening hatch and reported "ya should have been here". Most of us packed it in, cleaned up the place and headed for home with the feeling that life is good and we are fortunate to have good friends to share it with.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 19, 2014, 21:14:16 pm
Big props to Shane for hooking us up at the cabin.  V:;
He is the man!

We tied some flies. We potentially wore out the pit toilet.  :laugh:
We caught fish. We made new friends. and solidified others.
Seeing Scott hooked up in a cloud of sulphurs sealed the deal. Good times.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 29, 2014, 10:43:38 am


http://youtu.be/mnZzNToI1tE (http://youtu.be/mnZzNToI1tE)

When I stepped out of the car I heard thunder to the north and saw lightened flash in the clouds. I had left all of my rain gear at home but it was close to ninety degrees and I hoped any storm would be brief. As I walked the half mile to the river through the hay field which was ready for a second cut, it started to rain huge drops that spattered on my back and hat. The sun was out and as my grandmother would say, "The Devil is beating his wife!", as I walked east into my growing shadow. It was so humid that my shirt was soaked, reminding me of sleepless summer nights lying in bed sweating and praying for a cool breeze to blow in the window. On down to the river, I found that I was early and the water had not receded enough from the generation to be fishable. As I rigged the rod I realized that I had left the fly box with the flies that I had tied just for this evening on the front seat of the car. Damn! I popped a Dale's and hiked back to the car. The rain had stopped by the time I got back to the river and the water had fallen another six inches. There was a thick fog growing on the water as the evening approached. I opened another beer. A fish rose, I cast. Again. It took a while to adjust to the bamboo, especially after casting chickens for musky. On the third cast the fish rose to my fly and I felt the tug of a Smith River brown. It's been a while since I've fished the boo, after breaking the tip on this rod a couple of years ago, I've been hesitant to take it to the river. Photo taken, fish released, eyes on the water looking for the next rise. I was hoping for a decent hatch and or a spinner fall, but it wasn't coming on. I saw a few sulfurs floating and saw more fish rise as darkness approached. The river came to life, with fish rising everywhere, during the last half hour of light and I fishing on until it was too dark to see the fly upon the water. Stepping up out of the riverbed to the open field I walked through a blizzard of fireflies that blinked and danced in the cool night air.

Old School!
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: JWJ on May 29, 2014, 15:06:28 pm
That's the essence of fishing a hatch right there Woolly. I think I'm gonna have to go check on the sulfurs at my local now.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 29, 2014, 16:15:59 pm
Sounds like my experience Saturday night.
Except the boo part. You're too cool for school.  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 29, 2014, 17:31:04 pm
I'd go back again but it's a long drive for an hour if action
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on May 29, 2014, 21:03:08 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on May 29, 2014, 20:54:42 pm
QuoteI'd go back again but it's a long drive for an hour if action


amen to that and I have a couple more hours than you, but I bought the damn license. might as well put it to use.


That's what I said.. Woolly's always down to hit the smiff, I started neglecting responsibilities, stopped answering calls, telling myself the cheap gas was worth it, friends got worried, thankfully I'm back at work now but damn I'll be back up there next week whoring myself out to the fickle bitch  p;-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 30, 2014, 14:54:56 pm



http://youtu.be/Lm-L9uMxzQA (http://youtu.be/Lm-L9uMxzQA)

rain last night, clouds this morning, no generation. got out the door early.
wasn't as dark and stormy as I had hoped.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on May 30, 2014, 15:29:35 pm
holding the record strong for "Old man selfies" ...nice bass
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on May 30, 2014, 16:10:57 pm
Damb nice Woolly, can i get me driffter down through said drainage? bd;0
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 30, 2014, 16:56:26 pm
Quote from: DRIFTS on May 30, 2014, 16:10:57 pm
Damb nice Woolly, can i get me driffter down through said drainage? bd;0


Pretty sure you can float from the dam to the sports complex, getting over the falls would be tough, that's where I fish
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 03, 2014, 08:19:21 am
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I spent the past weekend at our "get away" place in Bassett VA. We are celebrating sixteen years of ownership this month. It has been a good ride. When we first purchased it we said we'd keep it for at least ten years, then it was maybe five years more. We now say as long as it is still fun we will take it year to year. I bought it because it sits less then a mile from the Smith River. The fishing is good and the deer and turkey hunting, which was an afterthought, is good as well. Another big plus has been several local people who share our passion for the outdoors have become good friends. We joined with many of those people to help clean up the river and enhance the fishery long before such things were in vogue.  Thankfully the value of  economic tourism has caught on and many others have now taken the lead - I'm happy to support them when time and energy permits.


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Once cabin chores were out of the way, (That's one of the joys of owning two places - you have two lawns to mow, two roofs to keep in repair, two water systems to keep running, two of everything), I headed to one of my known spots on the river. I've said this before - I don't really have a favorite spot. They are all good and I pick them by how much time I want to devote to fishing.  Most of the river is hemmed in with private property but less then 5% of it is posted. See a spot to park, pull on your waders and go fishing - just don't block a driveway or damage any property on your way to the river.  Getting into and out of the river is sometimes a challenge - the riverbed has eroded one grain of sand at a time over the past 50 years of power generation. This has resulted in 5-6 feet of steep banks before you reach the water. Combine that with underbrush and just getting in and out of the water is problematical.

I was just working some line out when a lone kayak paddler came by. I don't mind sharing the river with them because the more folks utilize the river the more clout we have.

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That paddler did not disturb my fishing because on the second cast of the day this stocked rainbow decided the zebra midge I hung underneath my primary fly was too good to pass up.

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You can't fish the Smith without catching lots of these little brown trout. Pretty, and they are a challenge for those who only fish delayed harvest water but it would be nice if they all averaged a foot or more in length.

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This and a few others of better size were brought to hand before it was time to check on my bride who I'd left back at the cabin.

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The following morning I decided to beat the weekend crowd by getting up early but found this fellow already had another of my good sections of the river staked out.

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He muttered a few loud choice words and flew off when I pulled this decent brown out right in front of him.

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Morning number three of my long weekend (They are all long weekends when you're retired ;D) found me at a different section of the river where I had some prime water all to myself.

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This was probably my best fish of the weekend. He certainly fell in the protected slot of 10-24 inches. I was pleased to catch him but I was really looking for a nice rainbow to take home as a baking fish.

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Turns out I caught a dozen fish that morning but only one was a rainbow. This small brown came to the top for my size ten stimulator which I use as an indicator.  I guess he thought if he could catch and swallow that huge fly he would not have to eat again for a week. 

There ya have it. We had a good weekend. Got the lawn mowed, did some fishing, spread a little money around on the local economy and had good friends over for some venison and delightful conversation. Life don't get much better than that.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 03, 2014, 08:52:28 am
Nice get away report. I had some paddlers come down last week late in the evening. We fished the spinner fall last night and I got a newb onto the fish. She hooked three and landed two.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 03, 2014, 11:57:51 am


I was filling up the growler for my pending float with Rhody, when I ran into a friend. She had just broken up with her boyfriend, and when she found out that I was floating the river, she said, "I want to go, I need an adventure!" I sat down and told her that I would take her up to the Smith some evening for the spinner fall and put her on some rising trout. That evening I checked the upcoming generation schedule and told her that Monday or Tuesday would be the evenings to go this week as the generation was stopping at 6 pm.

I picked her up at Krankies at 5:30, she was drinking a Pisgah Ale and brought along three more. We suited up at the Mirror Plant in the heat of the afternoon and hiked the field down to the falling water of the chilly river. The water was still up and no fish were rising but there was a decent flotilla of yellow bugs cruising down the currents. So we drank a beer and waited. I demoed casting technique and then she gave it a try, too much wrist but eventually she began to get the fly out into the current and she began to spot the rising fish. I worked one up against the bank, and hooked it, much to her amazement, on the third cast. She went back to the bank for another beer and brought one out to me in the middle of the river where we waited for the magic to start. A king fisher flew down stream and chirped out its territorial warning. Fish began to rise, I stashed the beer in my vest, and got her to cast upstream from the rise and bam, "Oh my god, I caught one." She played it and stripped in the line so that I could net her first fish ever caught! That was 8:40 pm, six minutes past sunset, light fading fast. High fives and toasts ensued, and she cast again and again getting another bigger brown to hit the Puff Daddy, but, after a short fight it self-released. Somewhere in there, the fly got birdnested and I had to tie on another fly, a rusty spinner. She cast that and bam another fish on at 9:00, the last fish of the evening, we did fish on for a few more minutes, I don't think she wanted to stop, but it was way too dark to fish, and we stumbled to the bank in the darkness.

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First fish ever! On the puff daddy @ 8:40 pm

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Second fish on a rusty spinner @ 9:00 pm

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 03, 2014, 12:35:22 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on June 03, 2014, 11:57:51 am


I was filling up the growler for my pending float with Rhody, when I ran into a friend. She had just broken up with her boyfriend, and when she found out that I was floating the river, she said, "I want to go, I need an adventure!" I sat down and told her that I would take her up to the Smith some evening for the spinner fall and put her on some rising trout. That evening I checked the upcoming generation schedule and told her that Monday or Tuesday would be the evenings to go this week as the generation was stopping at 6 pm.

I picked her up at Krankies at 5:30, ..................  A bunch more of mushy, sappy stuff!


Well ain't that sweet!!!

I am damned sure this potential malfeasance should be reported to the BRFFF OPR (Office of Professional Responsibility).  Well scribed commandments have been broken, unwritten contractual covenants have been wrecked, tossed to the wind with what appears to be libido-driven disregard. 

Surely there are others here that have flouted the laws, specifically those encompassing the Fly Angling Anti-Title IX, but there have been few that have so blatantly defied the code with publically displayed photos and text.

An official review will be scheduled!

Other than that, great job!!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on June 03, 2014, 12:42:17 pm
Way to go Woolly! You da man!  V:;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 03, 2014, 12:54:55 pm
Bring her to SRTU Fish w/a Friend this Saturday - Meet at Mirror Plant @ 9 am. I'm sure one of the Smith River Regulars would love to show her his favorite hole. If she is real adventurous, and she must be to go fishing with Woolly, we may invite her to the Grayson Highlands outing 20-22 June.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 03, 2014, 13:04:07 pm
Quote from: Al on June 03, 2014, 12:54:55 pm
Bring her to SRTU Fish w/a Friend this Saturday - Meet at Mirror Plant @ 9 am. I'm sure one of the Smith River Regulars would love to show her his favorite hole. If she is real adventurous, and she must be to go fishing with Woolly, we may invite her to the Grayson Highlands outing 20-22 June.


That's it; all of you randy old coots are going on report. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 03, 2014, 13:09:44 pm

Quote from: Al on June 03, 2014, 12:54:55 pm
Bring her to SRTU Fish w/a Friend this Saturday - Meet at Mirror Plant @ 9 am. I'm sure one of the Smith River Regulars would love to show her his favorite hole. If she is real adventurous, and she must be to go fishing with Woolly, we may invite her to the Grayson Highlands outing 20-22 June.


Not a chance Al, not a chance,
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Transylwader on June 03, 2014, 18:22:22 pm
Hey hey!
Fast forward to 0:38
40 year old virgin mooj (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vhwQEc4-Kw#ws)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on June 03, 2014, 21:33:10 pm
I'm baffled    :o
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on June 03, 2014, 22:18:11 pm
I hope to Buddha that he tried the ol creeper thigh grab as they drove back to WS.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 04, 2014, 06:30:42 am
Quote from: RiverbumCO on June 03, 2014, 22:18:11 pm
I hope to Buddha that he tried the ol creeper thigh grab as they drove back to WS.


I suppose, but what I hope is he got some sort of clarification on why today's gals paint every other nail.  Now that is baffling.  In the day, I liked all the nails on my concubine to be painted. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 08, 2014, 07:46:56 am


We held our June meeting in the Mirror Plant parking area. In waders.
Small turnout of the usual suspects and two guests.
I took Mark, a guest from Raleigh, down to the river and gave him a tour from the trestle pool to the end of the vegetable fields.
Then we fished.

Did some tying this week. Soft hackles.

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Two fishermen.

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Forget-me-nots
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We broke for a grilled burger and dog lunch. Thanks consuminfire!
Then everyone bugged out except for he and I. It was bright and hot.
The bugs were still coming off and the fish were off and on. But not cooperating.
We flogged for a while and packed it in.

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I have replaced almost all my modern reels with vintage ones now. Pfleuger 1494, sculted pillars, round guide, metal cap, metal drag knob. From the '30s. Solid as a rock.

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Picked up some big bottles when traveling this week. How could I refuse this one? Very good, unfiltered, Nelson Co. ale.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 08, 2014, 22:18:03 pm
This is an addition to DougFish's post on same topic:

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If you missed the Smith River Fish with a Friend event this past weekend you missed a great opportunity to network with some very knowledgeable fishermen who are collectively known in some circles as the "Smith River Regulars".  It was a great chance to peek into fly boxes, compare rod and leader set ups, watch experienced fishermen as they approached different sections of the river and have fun doing it.


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Trout streams don't get much prettier than this. Plenty of casting space. Most sections are wader friendly and there are lots of fish.  Some of you may be thinking, "Ya - but what do you do with all that flat water beyond that attractive riffle and old log?"  Knowledgeable "regulars" will tell you that is where most of the fish are located. Learn to fish it and you will have solved half the rivers secrets.


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Need proof - here you go!  I pulled this one and several others out of that very long stretch of flat water.


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Sure there are a lot of small fish in the Smith River but they are fun to catch. There is a saying which I believe has merit. It goes something like this - "If you can consistently  catch a handful of trout out of the Smith you can catch trout anywhere" or words to that effect.


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One of our "friends" took awhile to figure it out but that bend in his rod and the determined look on his face tells the story.

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Back at the Mirror Factory parking lot all that smoke must mean it is time to share some good food and swap stories.


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"I swear the one I lost right at the net was at least this long - maybe a little longer"

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After lunch we were on our own. A few linked up with a "regular" and gave it another try.  "Now lets see - how did he say I should fish this gorgeous section of flat water?"

Our next scheduled event is a fishing trip to Grayson Highlands 20-22 June 14. We did this same trip last year during the same timeframe and had a great time. You don't have to be a member of SRTU to attend. If you would like to join us contact Doug Jessie djessie@jrpeters.com or Al Kittredge aakitt@earthlink.net
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 14, 2014, 18:27:26 pm


I hadn't fished by myself in a while so I kept my mouth shut and eased down to the river this AM. It was good. I took my time. Sampled the flows for bugs with my seine. Turned over rocks. Sat in the shade and watched. Observed. Watched caterpillars drop into the river and meet their fate.
I feel like I should write a haiku about the day.

It was a quiet Saturday. Only saw one other fisherman and he was working away from me. The bugs were not coming off much. And there were long droughts of nothing. I ended up nymphing more than dry flying. Caught enough to make me happy, lost/missed enough to piss me off. That's me and this river. I know what patterns I need to tie more of, how to tweak them, and what sizes. A few pics.

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Turtle in forest
Brown trout in milky waters
Big crayfish dies old


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on June 14, 2014, 19:01:31 pm
Is that white paniculated crap elderberry?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 14, 2014, 19:07:48 pm
Quote from: tomato can on June 14, 2014, 19:01:31 pm
Is that white paniculated crap elderberry?


Elderberry, yes.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 14, 2014, 20:15:48 pm
Good show Doug.

Yep, just fishing by yourself is satisfying at times. Maybe not as much fun but definitely more productive.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on June 14, 2014, 21:02:05 pm
What, you can't take the high holing anymore?  I'm hurt..
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on June 14, 2014, 21:07:36 pm
Elderberry syrup, a great way to make any desert sauce sound pretentious in a fine dining atmosphere....I wish I knew what flies to use, tweak and tie..
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 14, 2014, 21:26:27 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on June 14, 2014, 21:07:36 pm
Elderberry syrup, a great way to make any desert sauce sound pretentious in a fine dining atmosphere....I wish I knew what flies to use, tweak and tie..


I make a Manhattan with Black Elderberry syrup, called a Black Miranda. My woman is putty in my hands after two of those.

I don't know shit, but learn every day. Then I go back all cocky and stuff, and get smacked down.  But my fly box(es) is(are) full.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 15, 2014, 01:50:41 am

Quote from: NCsporksman on June 14, 2014, 21:07:36 pm
Elderberry syrup, a great way to make any desert sauce sound pretentious in a fine dining atmosphere....I wish I knew what flies to use, tweak and tie..


#16 puff daddy & rusty spinner

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 15, 2014, 13:07:21 pm


http://youtu.be/kVpLi1iJH7Y (http://youtu.be/kVpLi1iJH7Y)

Little recon in the evening, since they don't generate on the weekends I can get a better look at the bugs.
BWOs came off, followed by the sulfurs at dusk. Forgot to put the memory card back in the camera so iPhone had to be put into service. Early on swung soft hackles and picked off some of the bigger fish (12 inches is good in the upper Smith) followed by Puff Daddy and Rusty Spinners. Dale's Pale Ale helped pass the time while waiting for the river to light up.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 27, 2014, 12:52:50 pm


http://youtu.be/SBNFG-NZW5o (http://youtu.be/SBNFG-NZW5o)

Hot and humid, work done, needed to get away. Took the Sally god up to the river. As I drove into town the western sky looked bleak. Check the radar app, yup a narrow band of T-Stroms headed my way, they should pass in an hour I thought. I got to the parking lot and grabbed a cold one and listened to the radio and waited for the storm to pass. I was early and it would be a while before the water receded from the dam release anyway. It rained pretty hard and I was worried that Town Creek might start pouring in mud. A little after seven I could see clear sky to the west and I geared up in the light rain. We could still hear thunder in the distance and Sally stayed in the car until I was ready to hike down to the river.

I carried a couple of White Zombies and a Dale's to the river. The water was still up a bit and I popped the top on the Dale's. Opening my fly box I was drawn to the Zoo Cougars that I swiped from the Transylwader last weekend... Picked the green one and worked my way across the river to cast to the far bank. Bam! Fish on! That was quick. But further efforts didn't product. Fish started to rise and I switched over to a #16 Sulfur comparadun. I targeted the rising fish and brought six to hand before it became too dark to see the fly. Hiking back to the car Sally heard a deer break brush and took off like a rifle shot... she came back into the field 50 yards down the trail a few moments later. She chased something else unseen by me, so she was pretty pleased with the trip too!

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on June 27, 2014, 20:33:16 pm
I crossed this river right many times in Martinsville while traveling to various jobsites in southern Va but have never made an effort to wank a rod there.  Dammit, I guess I need to give a try. 

Too many effing rivers and too little time.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on June 29, 2014, 09:01:11 am
I thought about an evening or two after work, but responsibilities kept me at bay...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 30, 2014, 10:45:24 am


http://youtu.be/S7sNSduf7Gc (http://youtu.be/S7sNSduf7Gc)

Not much going on, but I felt the need to get out for a bit and drove up to the river to check out the weekend flows.
Got there last and stayed till 9:00 really couldn't see the fly after that and the rising fish were gone too.
Early they wouldn't take the puff daddy, but after the sunset they were on it. Nothing specular, just sight casting to rising browns.

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too dark to photo without the flash....

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Transylwader on June 30, 2014, 10:57:40 am
Those Zoo cougars work on red drum too. I think it's the new "clouser". Tied up some in white. The GARfunkels are in big shit tomorrow.
Gewd shiat brah. /'/
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 30, 2014, 14:05:28 pm
WB, last two reports were dark and moody. I likey.  'c;
Oh, good brownies. I'm due a trip.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 30, 2014, 16:27:39 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on June 30, 2014, 14:05:28 pm
WB, last two reports were dark and moody. I likey.  'c;
Oh, good brownies. I'm due a trip.


that's what happens 1/2 hour past sunset....

d:b
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on June 30, 2014, 16:46:52 pm
Woolly...we got to float that bitch one day...I wood enjoy putting the jack on a few leroys!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Shane on July 01, 2014, 11:25:46 am
Quote from: DRIFTS on June 30, 2014, 16:46:52 pm
Woolly...we got to float that bitch one day...I wood enjoy putting the jack on a few leroys!


Go from Fieldale to Country Club
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on July 01, 2014, 12:43:39 pm
Thanks for info
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 01, 2014, 22:00:49 pm

Quote from: Shane on July 01, 2014, 11:25:46 am
Quote from: DRIFTS on June 30, 2014, 16:46:52 pm
Woolly...we got to float that bitch one day...I wood enjoy putting the jack on a few leroys!


Go from Fieldale to Country Club


Where does one take out? Is there a ramp?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on July 01, 2014, 22:03:52 pm
there is a canoe ramp off of Dupont Rd....
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Shane on July 02, 2014, 11:19:16 am
Quote from: consumnfire1229 on July 01, 2014, 22:03:52 pm
there is a canoe ramp off of Dupont Rd....


There is an outlaw takeout on Country Club road. If you get onto the 58 bypass toward Stuart from the City dam, it's your first right. Go down until you come to the cable gate of the Pythian property. Might be a better place for a boat that can't get past a canoe ramp pole obstruction. Kind of a steep muddy bank, but Scott Lewis and I have taken his big raft out of there a few times.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Migray on July 02, 2014, 21:53:39 pm
Hi guys, Migray again. I figured I would participate a little. I went down a bit farther than I usually do to toss some streamers. I don't think I have ever done a day of only streamer fishing but I read Kelly Galloup's book and I am in. I had a ton of huge splashy hits but only one fish to hand. He was around 13 or so inches. I am tired but happy with how that went down. I believe one of them was pretty decent. 16-18 possibly. That is a fun way to catch trout. There were some fish feeding up top but I did my best to ignore them.
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on July 02, 2014, 22:10:50 pm
Quote from: Migray on July 02, 2014, 21:53:39 pm
Hi guys, Migay again.


Stop.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bmadd on July 03, 2014, 14:50:41 pm
Migay, I have a serious question. This has kept me up at night since reading your introduction. Is the first half of your name pronounced "my" or "me"? I'm not judging, just curious.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 05, 2014, 13:22:49 pm


http://youtu.be/0O1v_7T6p8U (http://youtu.be/0O1v_7T6p8U)

Headed up the road to catch the falling water and hopefully an evening hatch.
As I approached town, I noticed that the river was extremely muddy. I drove on hoping the upper river would be clear.
Town creek was muddy but I was still hopeful that any stain would still be fishable. As I was hiking in Old Man Phillpott pull up in his pickup, he offered some advise and offered my a ride down to the end of the field. I declined and continued to hike on down. The water had just started to fall an wading in the river was a little dodgy. I brought along two rods, 4 wt for dries and a 6 wt sink tip for streamers. I started off with a zoo cougar but the fast water and short sink tip wasn't getting the job done. Switched to a conehead slumpbuster and the game was on! Although I heard there aren't many if any baitfish this far up the river, the stunted browns were all over the green rabbit! The action continued until I noticed some bugs popping and a few risers. Switched rods and got one, just on one the dry during the last half hour of light.

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Days are getting shorter and I had to stop at 9:05! 
Peepers and Fireworks greeted me on the way out.



http://youtu.be/gpM45f40elM (http://youtu.be/gpM45f40elM)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 05, 2014, 18:24:58 pm
Way to adapt, boss. Nice fish! 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 06, 2014, 21:07:13 pm
If that "LIVE FISH" truck went through Bassett / Henry County half the population would be following it. :o b'; b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 11, 2014, 22:53:21 pm


I needed to get out. A couple of weeks without fishing had me in a foul mood. Family stuff, life stuff, you know.
Went to visit a friend. A friend who loves me, a friend who kicks my ass.
The Smith.

http://youtu.be/6yCIDkFI7ew (http://youtu.be/6yCIDkFI7ew)

Scooted down the road to catch the falling water of a early generation. Met up with Pwolley on the way for a shady parking lot reel for cash exchange.
Old Medalist finds a worthy owner. He got his 1492, I reversed the flow of reels coming in by one.
A fellow Roanoker I didn't know followed me into the lot, and we suited up trying to high hole each other.
We walked down through the hayfield together.
Ended up he wanted to jump in waaaay higher than me in slack water. Bye, sucker!
The water was off color and coming down fast. I tied on the only bugger in the box.  b';

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Unlike the true Bugger, I only had one fish fall to the stripped offering.
The water dropped, the dry/dropper rig went on. I started small.

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Stashed a beer, hit a dependable section. Meh.
Caught a few. Not as productive as it should have been.

Hit some slack water and fish were rising. WTF, lets do this.
Switched to a more delicate landing dropper. Game. On.

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The last pic doesn't do the upper Smith brown justice. He would not sit for a hand held pic. 15" of brown in 9" of water. Jumped like a tarpon.
He did not want to pose for a hand held shot.
I was a hundred feet from the walk out. I let him go, clipped the flies off and headed for the truck. Thank you, river.

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Tipped a Parkway nod to Roanoke's Beth Macy at the truck. Her award winning book about the Bassett family and the furniture industry is coming out July 15. "Factory Man". Seriously good American story. Parkway brewed an IPA to celebrate. Damned good beer.  'c;
A hell of a writer, a hell of a story, an IPA girl. 
Happy to have the local connection.
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on July 12, 2014, 17:10:09 pm
Why didn't pwolley join you?  Didn't want to miss the blue hairs in the pool at the Y?  He loves them water aerobics...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creekfreak on July 12, 2014, 18:27:24 pm
Excellent reportage Doug. Great call on the Parkway, quickly becoming my fav in that area.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 12, 2014, 20:58:22 pm
Here is a look at some behind the scenes history of Bassett VA and surrounding area

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/a-tale-of-two-furniture-towns.html#slide_ss_0=1 (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/a-tale-of-two-furniture-towns.html#slide_ss_0=1)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on July 12, 2014, 21:48:26 pm
Yea D-man shitty pic aside that's an upper smiff hawg
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on July 12, 2014, 22:36:56 pm
Good story Al and nice report there, Douglas.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 13, 2014, 07:18:24 am
Quote from: consumnfire1229 on July 12, 2014, 17:10:09 pm
Why didn't pwolley join you?  Didn't want to miss the blue hairs in the pool at the Y?  He loves them water aerobics...


He was headed to Roanoke for an appointment. Gimpy knee.
Otherwise he would have probably joined me.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on July 14, 2014, 06:46:57 am
Nice report. ..I got to get down there soon to float her
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on July 14, 2014, 08:06:27 am
 'c; It's been nice not seeing you post up a tr every two days and are back to the fishing schedule of most of us working folk.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 14, 2014, 09:47:01 am
Here is another link to the "Bassett" history story I posted earlier. Book recently published.

http://www.roanoke.com/arts_and_entertainment/columns_and_blogs/blogs/back_cover/book-review-a-remarkable-work-about-made-in-virginia/article_5417f952-cf1b-507c-8e22-f2fee660a5e1.html (http://www.roanoke.com/arts_and_entertainment/columns_and_blogs/blogs/back_cover/book-review-a-remarkable-work-about-made-in-virginia/article_5417f952-cf1b-507c-8e22-f2fee660a5e1.html)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Shane on July 14, 2014, 10:24:09 am
PS,

  That Live Fish truck is full of Tilapia on their way to chinatown in chicago, Philly, or New York. Martinsville is home to the world's largest indoor aquaculture facility. Their customers prefer to be shipped live fish.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 25, 2014, 07:53:42 am


http://youtu.be/s1sAkZF7SCQ (http://youtu.be/s1sAkZF7SCQ)

I could not make the river clean up and fishing afterward. Sorry mates.
I was able to sneak down Tuesday AM after a early generation.
I was a l little late and missed the falling water, though.  b';

Smoke on the water.

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Then fire in the sky as temperature climbed.

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I was sweating like a pig by the time I hopped into the cold water. A few fish were rising, even fewer bugs were coming off. Threw a beetle, a hopper, changed the dropper. Caught a couple, but they were not keyed in like they should have been. Switched to the recent go to's even though the mayflies were barely there. Bang!

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On an average day, most fish are below the slot. This day, most were within the 10-24" slot. Good bug year = growing fish.
I fished on, but I didn't even cover 200 yds. Came to my stashed brewski and called it quits. Satisfied.

Circus cast. Mad skills.

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Hopped out. Caught sight of a better fisherman in the midday smoke.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on July 25, 2014, 08:37:22 am
That was good.  I know you needed that outing with everything on your plate as of late. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: benben reincarnated on July 25, 2014, 08:45:40 am
Doug, get that Old Chub on nitro, it will change your life.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on July 25, 2014, 09:51:02 am
I'm going somewhere this weekend.  Period!  Nice work!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 27, 2014, 20:15:28 pm
The Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries (VDGIF) will be "shock sampling" the trout holding sections of the Smith River starting on Tuesday, August 19th through Thursday August 21st.  They nomally arrive in the area about 10:00 am on the first day and work the specific locations and times around the Philpott generation schedule, much like knowledgeable fishermen who either get behind or ahead of the generation surge. They remain in the area for a full day on Wednesday and usually depart  early afternoon on Thursday.  There are ten or more sample sites. A good way to locate them is ride up and down the easy access points and look for a half dozen or more VDGIF trucks.

The VDGIF Fisheries Biologists encourage participation by volunteers willing to help as they scoop up and process the fish. Don't forget your waders if you want to help with the line of "netters" as they move upstream through each site. If you just want to sit on the bank and watch they don't mind that either. Many of us have participated before and it is definitely an eye opener. It gets pretty humbling when you look at a 100 yard section of stream and think "I could probably catch 2-3 out of there" and then they come up through it with the electro prods and roll up 4-600. There are a couple of sites that normally produce over a 1000.

As the time gets closer and we have a more definitive schedule we will share it with you.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TroutMedic on August 18, 2014, 05:17:39 am
Al can I get some more info on this. I would love to participate
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 18, 2014, 08:37:15 am
Quote from: TroutMedic on August 18, 2014, 05:17:39 am
Al can I get some more info on this. I would love to participate


Here ya go - this direct from VDGIF

Here is our schedule for sampling the Smith River next week if flows stay the same.  Please pass on to your TU group for those who may want to attend.

Day 1:  August 19, 2014

1.      Meet at sampling site at 10 AM,  Bassett Mirror Plant 36 47' 14" N by 79 59" 51" W  (travel to the back side of the plant, through the field to the far left corner to the sampling site) sample and then have lunch
2.      Travel to next sampling site,  Bassett Library 36 45' 45" N by 79 59' 45" W
3.      Travel to next sampling site,  Shady view Road 36 44' 15" N by 79 56' 24" W  (by historic church at dead end road)

End of day one sampling.

Day 2: August 20, 2014

1.      Meet at sampling site 9:00 AM, Yellow Stairs 36 47' 38" N by 80 01' 03 " W (This is half way up the road going to dam)
2.      Travel to next sampling site, Martinsville Dam 36 39' 35" N by 79 52' 46" W  (Lunch)
3.      Travel to next sampling site, Derelict Bridge 36 44' 15" N by 79 57' 26" W
4.      Travel to next sampling site, Sewage Plant     36 41' 35" N by 79 55' 32" W

End of day two sampling.
 
Day 3: August 21, 2014

1.      Meet at sampling site 9:00 AM, Dam       36 47' 37" N by 80 01' 34" W

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 18, 2014, 15:57:56 pm
Small change to schedule - see email below which just came in from VDGIF - Start at Yellow Steps instead of Mirror Factory on Tuesday.

With all the rain we are having we need to adjust the sampling schedule.  We were planning to meet tomorrow at the Bassett Mirror Plant at 10 AM but the rain may make travel through the field hard.  So we are going to switch sites an start at the yellow stair at 10:00 am.  Please confirm that you received this email and are aware of the change, let others know also.

Thanks and see you tomorrow

Day 1:  August 19, 2014

1.      Meet at sampling site 10:00 AM, Yellow Stairs 36 47' 38" N by 80 01' 03 " W

1.      Travel to next sampling site,  Bassett Library 36 45' 45" N by 79 59' 45" W

2.      Travel to next sampling site,  Shady view Road 36 44' 15" N by 79 56' 24" W 

End of day one sampling.

Day 2: August 20, 2014

1.      Meet at sampling site at 9 AM,  Bassett Mirror Plant 36 47' 14" N by 79 59" 51" W  (travel to the back side of the plant, through the field to the far left corner to the sampling site)

2.      Travel to next sampling site, Martinsville Dam 36 39' 35" N by 79 52' 46" W  (Lunch)

3.      Travel to next sampling site, Derelict Bridge 36 44' 15" N by 79 57' 26" W

4.      Travel to next sampling site, Sewage Plant     36 41' 35" N by 79 55' 32" W

End of day two sampling.

Day 3: August 21, 2014

1.      Meet at sampling site 9:00 AM, Dam       36 47' 37" N by 80 01' 34" W



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TroutMedic on August 19, 2014, 04:27:11 am
Thanks al
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 31, 2014, 15:37:03 pm
Well I tried to get back with you but you were likely in the middle of the river and did not want to risk dropping your cellphone. Wanted to clue you in on where we removed a lot of fish during recent sampling - likely there are still fish there but not as many as before because several hundred from 3 different sites were relocated downriver.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on September 01, 2014, 08:10:43 am
I was actual thinking about fishing the smith this next weekend. Too warm for musky still and too warm for brookies. I don't know if I can bring myself to fish the smith though. . .
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 01, 2014, 09:02:52 am
 Get Scott to show you the way.  :P
I'll be in dirty Jersey.  b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on September 02, 2014, 22:16:54 pm
Quote from: Big J on September 01, 2014, 08:10:43 am
I was actual thinking about fishing the smith this next weekend. Too warm for musky still and too warm for brookies. I don't know if I can bring myself to fish the smith though. . .


Sure is nice to get in that cold water on a hot summer day.  I'm tossing the same idea around as well.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on September 02, 2014, 23:33:03 pm
Quote from: Big J on September 01, 2014, 08:10:43 am
I was actual thinking about fishing the smith this next weekend. Too warm for musky still and too warm for brookies. I don't know if I can bring myself to fish the smith though. . .

The Cup awaits your visit to the Smith Big J.  :P
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on September 07, 2014, 15:39:49 pm
Had the urge to catch some trout Saturday. Decided to make the short run up to the Smith to see if *I could catch a few. The weather report was calling for partly cloudy skies. When usually appeases the brownie gods. I left home about 7:30 I noticed the skyies had  burned off to blue bird skies. I immediately cursed and start thinking of where the closest place to catch some smallies was. But as I got closer to Martinsville the skyies started to look more favorable. I decided to fish a stretch that i have never fished before. Hopped in the foggy river to see what I could do. I didn't see many bugs coming off. Only a few sulfers. And only a couple of rises. The water was pretty cloudy. So I went to my favorite winter time pattern. And on the second drift..
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/P1000825_800x600_zps37b7c7b1.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/P1000825_800x600_zps37b7c7b1.jpg.html)
on the third..
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/P1000826_800x600_zpsfc73f16a.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/P1000826_800x600_zpsfc73f16a.jpg.html)
I proceded to catch about 10 out of this one hole.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/P1000827_800x600_zpsefe25360.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/P1000827_800x600_zpsefe25360.jpg.html)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/P1000828_800x600_zps6f3a743d.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/P1000828_800x600_zps6f3a743d.jpg.html)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/P1000837_800x600_zps7eacb472.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/P1000837_800x600_zps7eacb472.jpg.html)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/P1000838_800x600_zps0e544f89.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/P1000838_800x600_zps0e544f89.jpg.html)

I worked my way up stream and picked up a few more. Did catch one nice wormchunker fodder at the next hole. Decided to head back to the truck and fish some more familiar spots. I couldn't resist the first spot. So I made a few more drifts there. And watched the line stop and lifted up. I immediately knew if was a good fish. Got it to the surface and it made another run and threw the hook. Looked to be about 16 inches. Would have been the biggest brown I have ever caught out of the Smith.

Headed upstream a bit and the bottom fell out. I looked at the radar and it seemed it was going to pour for awhile. So I called it a day. So no food or beer pics.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 08, 2014, 17:22:01 pm
Went to scope out the lower Smith today, it was muddy.


(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/08/7bc703cb8ecc9abb0c2f8036e812b9e7.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/08/a620fd2fc5d28c44229b7dce6d1c5a8d.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on September 08, 2014, 17:46:29 pm
QuoteWent to scope out the lower Smith today, it was muddy.


Shit mayne, I had an unexpected partial day off.  Water with on the Old plateau was fine. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 08, 2014, 18:16:53 pm
Driver with the smackdown!  'c;
Nice fish, man.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: itieuglyflies on September 08, 2014, 18:51:20 pm
Great to see the Smiff is still alive and willing to share some of her bounty
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on September 15, 2014, 00:58:29 am

The old codger and myself set upon Smith's River for a day of leisure....all pictures were shot in dramatic filter for effect, said drama is feigned, it was a very drama free day...except woolly lost his net on account of his diminishing faculties.... the net was recovered and further drama was averted...much rejoicing ensued and we filled the net with many troots of proportions too large to speak of, here's the smaller ones
<-;:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=45HPaTF0u7U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45HPaTF0u7U)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141777_zps60149b4c.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141777_zps60149b4c.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141780_zpsf8777a3f.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141780_zpsf8777a3f.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9091768_zpsa8d973ea.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9091768_zpsa8d973ea.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141789_zpsbfe3f5c5.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141789_zpsbfe3f5c5.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141783_zpseb663a71.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141783_zpseb663a71.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141782_zps1b3237b0.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141782_zps1b3237b0.jpg.html)

A kind old man

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141791_zps8d01e5cc.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141791_zps8d01e5cc.jpg.html)

why yes G, that is a new reel with sex appeal

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141798_zps48129c0d.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141798_zps48129c0d.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141800_zps4f72f552.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141800_zps4f72f552.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P9141788_zps46b8fcfa.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P9141788_zps46b8fcfa.jpg.html)

the Real Score here, gas station burger I will put up against any other any day...fuck yes
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on September 15, 2014, 07:59:34 am
That's a nice brown.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 15, 2014, 08:30:42 am

My first real trip on the month, long over due.

Struggled to bring the fish to net today, few and far between.

Note the two small fish have clipped adipose fins. These fish were "transplanted" during the recent sampling.



(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-10.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-11.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-12.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091414-13.jpg)





Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 15, 2014, 08:48:58 am
Sweet! Nicely done, gents.  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on September 16, 2014, 00:32:14 am
The same fish back in May I think, he's put on maybe 2 dick inches, stop gettin caught and he'll be a badass mutha

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p694/homegrowncrepe/P5150340_zps99bb0e82.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/homegrowncrepe/media/P5150340_zps99bb0e82.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Rhody on September 16, 2014, 09:35:47 am
good to see another old man with a wading crutch, noice fish, beats my weekend plumbing under the kitchen sink when i needa be fishin
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 19, 2014, 17:56:37 pm


http://youtu.be/XJIuP7zEVeM (http://youtu.be/XJIuP7zEVeM)


skipped work, drove on up to the local in the rain, hoped for the best, water was up and muddy, threw streamers, large, small, dark, bright and everything in between

Shoulda stayed home and tied up some flies, NOT!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-10.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-11.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-12.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-13.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/9/091914-14.jpg)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: itieuglyflies on September 21, 2014, 19:31:03 pm
Looks like the new camera is a winner
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on September 21, 2014, 22:36:10 pm
ya might of caught something if you didn't spend your whole trip showing us your macro skillz guy
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 28, 2014, 20:12:47 pm


Well the finicky little bitch is back.
After treating me so good, very good, for so long, I got bitch slapped today.
I should have known I was due.
Tomatocan said the Smith "was great yesterday!". And the overcast skies I was counting on turned into bluebird skies.

It was slow from the start. The caddis were not coming off (like they would have been on an overcast day). Little gray stoneflies were.
But the fish don't tend to care for those. Must taste like ass.

"Moved a few fish" (WTF is that?), had a couple SDR's at my feet, fumbled a small fish, missed some, and cursed.
Did find some good pawpaws and had a delightful snack. Moved upstream to see how Shane and his buddy were doing. Ditto experience.
We tied on stupid stuff, big stuff, little stuff. Shot the shit, decided to move on.
Turned them onto the joys of pawpaws, drank the second beer and said fuck it. You win.  b';

Fucking worthless flies:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u0h2kquypTw/VCcvPwV2jCI/AAAAAAAAcAw/im6szRr3nxM/w405-h540-no/P9270024.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IruomSdT-_Q/VChhh8VsmtI/AAAAAAAAcE0/TjTDLoFPSFY/w720-h540-no/P9280003.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AMjby6Y_PFI/VChhijZKqmI/AAAAAAAAcE8/q9KKUk_MhiM/w720-h540-no/P9280004.JPG)

Waders!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q_aDWe4EBQM/VChhk7v63MI/AAAAAAAAcEU/BpbFES1n3ko/w405-h540-no/P9280007.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1HvBo5_DAbc/VChhnK1uvLI/AAAAAAAAcEM/TEd4NF-yWG4/w720-h540-no/P9280010.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GwBhCa9OZoA/VChhoYZiu3I/AAAAAAAAcDc/4YN86BCDwYQ/w405-h540-no/P9280012.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-s7hqsqr5fE8/VChhp0mZIUI/AAAAAAAAcDo/Vj9fhYUHQ_I/w465-h540-no/P9280014.JPG)

For TC, they are not to be confused with Chinese Quince, Pseudocydonia:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-y695esHmnlo/VChhsp6TJMI/AAAAAAAAcD4/L-_tehZ3eYc/w720-h540-no/P9280017.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9Z12e_b7bHk/VChhtbZHDeI/AAAAAAAAcDI/Acx_m8iRnpM/w720-h540-no/P9280018.JPG)

I have yet to try and render this edible. Hard as my head.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on September 28, 2014, 20:35:25 pm
I got a sack full of them paw paws yesterday.  Hope to make some paw paw ice-cream this week or get my wife to cook some paw paw nut bread.  I think you have to cook the quince but I am not sure.  I also think they get FB real bad so I have never messed with them.  Was that quince growing wild or are you foraging in someone's yard?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 28, 2014, 20:47:31 pm
It's in my yard. I grow it for it's great bark. It is awesome.
And yes, it has some fireblight going on. Chainsaw bait one day.

Where's the TR?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Shane on September 28, 2014, 21:08:46 pm
Yeah, we moved a few fish. Rolled a couple.

Fuckin A paw paws
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on September 28, 2014, 22:02:02 pm
Hey Shane.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on September 28, 2014, 22:28:45 pm
TC, when are you going to invite me over for some of this mysterious PawPaws I've never tried?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 29, 2014, 18:47:20 pm
I'll have to give those Paw paws a try the next time I'm up that way...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 20, 2014, 15:20:19 pm

http://youtu.be/VLs09J_x6-c (http://youtu.be/VLs09J_x6-c)

Took the god our for a half day of fishing and running in the field. She's getting older now and didn't express too much interesting in chasing after stuff. She mostly stayed with me on the river settling on a mid-stream rock. No memory card in the camera so I was limited in picture taking. Tons of bugs popping off the water, micro bwos, a few sulfurs, an occasional yellow drake and midges, tons and tons of 'em. I passed an angler who was coming off the river as I was heading in, "They are starting to rise, I've been nyphing and didn't want to change lures." Go figure on that one... Fish were rising, but only occasionally, I got a half dozen to hit, but no hook-ups as I constantly changes flies... Finally, I fooled a finicky fish which fought frenetically for a few moments.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/101914-10.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/101914-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/101914-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/101914-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/101914-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/101914-5.jpg)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: tomato can on October 20, 2014, 20:33:19 pm
The Kinks!  Yes yes yes
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on October 25, 2014, 09:36:47 am
Nice TR there Woolly...can't wait to get out after em again. Keep it coming
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Phil on October 25, 2014, 10:40:16 am
Nice.
Damn Woolly, you are a good photographer.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 29, 2014, 18:10:27 pm


http://youtu.be/HKhI09XO5R0 (http://youtu.be/HKhI09XO5R0)

Filled up the night before in anticipation of an early start.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-10.jpg)

I wanted to go sohoing but, didn't get out of the house until 11ish, so I drove on up to the local, forgetting that it was race weekend. I managed to avoid the traffic by taking the back way in. It was close to noon and the sun was beating down through the cloudless sky. I was using this trip as a Gopro experiment, using the camera with the "chesty" harness for the first time.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-12.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-13.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-8.jpg)

Topped off on the way home....

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/10/102614-14.jpg)

Learned a few lessons about the camera, grabbed some stills from the footage...
I had a few follows, that was all...


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on October 29, 2014, 20:21:46 pm
Thank you, B-day boy for bringing us this visage.  -0-

Lordy, I need to get back in that water.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 31, 2014, 09:00:40 am


Work sux so I took the dog out for a bit.
Intended to try a time-lapse with the GoPro, but
couldn't mash the correct buttons... d:b

I was in such a rush to get to the river that I left my
cell phone on the seat (not secure in a convertible)
and didn't check the tippet on my lanyard, only hade 12 lb
no 6x or 7x, fished with a clipped 9 6x foot leader, but after
changing flies a few times it was getting pretty stout. Also
forgot the magic fly dust stuff... Bwos, Sulfurs, Caddis, Midges
and Yellow Drakes, I tied on a big ole Sulfur parachute and
that did the trick...

Fly Fishing on the Smith River VA on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/110543075)

Made this for the hater p;-

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 03, 2014, 09:56:28 am


http://youtu.be/zhCfehYJxXA (http://youtu.be/zhCfehYJxXA)

The hunt continues for the big browns. It rained all day Saturday and I should have gone then, but I thought the river might be too muddy.  Sent out a group msg to my hommies, one yes, on can't and one was too hungover and in the godhouse. I was hoping the water would still be off color on Sunday. I couldn't believe how clear the river was when we arrived just before noon. Despite the full on sun, there was a chill in the air and the wind was wicked at times. We fished all the usual spots and found a few new ones as well, we both moved a couple of fish and felt a short lived tug or two. As the day was getting late we made a move to another section. That worked for me and the Spork had a tug as well.


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-1.jpg)
id the tree from the seed?
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-10.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-11.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-12.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-13.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-14.jpg)
found this hoop in the water, any ideas???

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-15.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-16.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-18.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-19.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-21.jpg)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bmadd on November 03, 2014, 10:45:51 am
Nice looking trip.

Seeds look like they're from a persimmon
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on November 03, 2014, 10:51:34 am
Damm, I wish I could have gone. That looked sorta fun
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 03, 2014, 10:53:18 am
Quote from: wildmttrout on November 03, 2014, 10:51:34 am
Damm, I wish I could have gone. That looked sorta fun


you coulda gone if you manned up! y;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on November 03, 2014, 10:56:19 am
Nice. I need to check generation and head down.
Pawpaw seeds, I believe.

The hoop? I got nothin.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TroutMedic on November 03, 2014, 13:23:14 pm
The hoop is a treasure. Comes from the native Bassett residents.   A dream catcher non the less.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 03, 2014, 18:02:16 pm
Quote from: TroutMedic on November 03, 2014, 13:23:14 pm
The hoop is a treasure. Comes from the native Bassett residents.   A dream catcher non the less.


I can see it now, all my dreams washed away downstream in the dirty smith river
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: croaker on November 03, 2014, 23:43:27 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on November 03, 2014, 09:56:28 am




(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/110214-14.jpg)
found this hoop in the water, any ideas???






Upper Slot Size Trout Dream Catcher?     'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: benben reincarnated on November 04, 2014, 07:53:19 am
Keith, that's a dark ass brown you caught.

On the video you are filming of you driving your go-cart around, what kind of mount do you have to mount it to your car for the side shots and the front-view shots?
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 04, 2014, 08:41:19 am
Quote from: benben on November 04, 2014, 07:53:19 am
Keith, that's a dark ass brown you caught.

On the video you are filming of you driving your go-cart around, what kind of mount do you have to mount it to your car for the side shots and the front-view shots?


Gopro grip mount is a spring clamp with an articulated arm, twist and turn

Fish was lit up but I didn't get a good shot of its belly

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this shot shows the color better...

Go cart gets 30.59 mpg!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: AwesomeBillFrmDawsonville on November 07, 2014, 10:43:24 am
Those are beautiful photos Woolly Bugger, keep it up!
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 01, 2014, 19:49:06 pm
My friend released his first album in three or four years, The Arrow, by Jeffrey Dean Foster.
My friend Haydee put together this video for him, she shot it while sailing about England, France, and Spain this summer with more friends.

Jigsaw Man by Jeffrey Dean Foster on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/112131041)


The path to the river was littered with a blanket leaves, all brown and piled thick, they crunched as I hiked in along the trail to the river. The sun was off the water, the hill blocking the winter sun. There would only be about three hours of daylight. I was here yesterday and I didn't move a fish, I planned on tossing the same streamer, it caught fish here before. I brought along the floating line and tied up some stoneflies as a backup. Rigging up the streamer express, I noticed a few more nicks in the coating and wondered when I would have to buy a new one. " Has anyone tried heat shrink tubing", I  wondered? Three feet of 15 lb looped to the short leader should do. I study the water and try to look through it, trying to figure out where the trout are. I remember exactly where every fish was caught or blew up on the fly.  I cover all the water several times and was about to change flies or move on when, "Bam! Fish on!"

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/113014-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/113014-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/113014-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/113014-2.jpg)

Moving on down to the next run I came across an unfinished raccoon meal.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/113014-5.jpg)

I covered all of the accessible spots on this part of the river and only left the water when it was too dark to see. 

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/113014-6.jpg)

Finished the day with a Hoots Morning Stout (brewed with Krankies Coffee)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/11/113014-7.jpg)


[size=50]MY HP Envy crashed last week, motherboard gone bad, HP's two year warranty came through, but I had to reload all of the programs that I use. Office, CS6, were the two biggies.... all data was backed up but some of my recent TR photos are on the backup computer... so these TRs are going to be a bit out of order for now.[/size]
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 01, 2014, 20:29:52 pm
Nice!    'c;
Including the video.  y;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on December 01, 2014, 22:44:25 pm
You are a bastard n!n

That coon left all the good parts
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: JWJ on December 02, 2014, 10:24:11 am
Nice Woolly!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 05, 2014, 16:48:01 pm


http://youtu.be/KzHMxfbF-cI (http://youtu.be/KzHMxfbF-cI)

December, getting close to the end of another year. Many age related milestones in my family. Parents hitting 90, my son turned 21, daughter 18, and I hit the big 60! It brings new joys and challenges too. My high school classmate and long time accountant passed away this spring and I'm missing him as we get ready to close the books for 2014.

The Smith River TU chapter's meeting was last night, George Palmer and Scott Smith, fisheries biologists with the Virginia Department Game and Inland Fisheries (VDGIF) gave a presentation about the results of the recent electroshocking survey of the upper and lower river section. It confirmed what we all know, lots of small fish close to the dam, getting bigger and fewer as you move downstream to the next dam. Big fish below the second dam, but fewer and father between. George is new to the area and has some plans to "improve" the fishery, I'm skeptical.

Since I was making the drive, I might as well fish a bit. The lower dam was releasing too much water to wade, so I hit the upper section and took the Sally god with me, where she can run in the big field besides the river. After I geared up and we began the hike across Philpott's field, Sally caught a sent and was off running down the edge of the woods. When we arrived at the path to the river, Sally lay down on the top of the bank as I stepped down onto the gravelbar. Nothing was happening on the water, the grey skies were perfect for a BWO hatch, but all I saw was an occasional midge. I looked in several boxes for inspiration before settling on an emerging midge patter, which I received from the suk basketball pool a few years back. Damn if that think didn't raise a fish on the third or fourth cast! I though I was good, but not another fish would hit that fly. Finally gave up and clipped it off, settling for a fly that I picked up at the TU monthly raffle last month, a large elk hair sulfur patter, which I thought looked like the yellow drakes that sometimes pop off.

Cast that fly up under the rhodos where I had seen an early rise, and bam! They like the big yellow fly and several fish came to hand before darkness crept in and my casting was either two feet short or in the trees. I retreated to the bank and sat down with the god and drank a beer while waiting for the river to rise from the evening generation.

I led the way up the path to the field and when I stepped into the open there was a whitetail 10 yards in front of me. The deer froze until Sally, who was two steps behind me stepped up and got a glance, she shot off in hot pursuit as the deer ran across the open field to the wood about 200 yards away. Sally quit at the far edge an circled back to my as I began to hike back to the car. I guess she got her exercise for the day.

We drove back into town for the TU meeting where we heard the biologist report on the data collected from the most recent sampling. Some interesting options were brought up for "improving" the lower river fishery. More sampling needs to be done.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/120414-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/120414-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/120414-3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 05, 2014, 17:20:57 pm
Good to see ya, bossman. And glad you and Sally got out.  'c;

If nothing else, George is enthusiastic and has plans. Nobody else has had that fire. We'll see what happens!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 07, 2014, 13:57:57 pm


http://youtu.be/3fa4HUiFJ6c (http://youtu.be/3fa4HUiFJ6c)

It was a prefect streamer day, heavy overcast, falling water, and just a slight intermittent drizzle, and I had visions of hooking into a big brown. I started up on some runs that I have not visited in a while, they weren't productive, but I was saving the best part for the end of the day. Moving on down I worked some new water, exploring the river and finding a few new ways to wade across the rive and hit the far bank. Took one pune on the swing and that was it for the second location. Packed up and hit the lower river, each cast was filled with anticipation, but I failed to get a strike. I moved around and worked parts of the river from opposite the usual way we attack this water and I discovers some new access points. One fish blew up on the fly and I had a second solid tug but no fish came to hand. Moving up past the head of the rapids, I climbed up on top of a log jam. Peering over the top I saw some really great looking water where a trout was surly to hold. With one foot placed on top of the log, I stepped out to brace myself with the other foot on a smaller and lower log. Looking down, didn't look good, falling was not an option. It wasn't he most secure or comfortable position, but, hopefully secure enough to cast from. I began to strip out line, I wasn't sure how I would land a fish from here, and was aware that hooking a big fish here might be tragic. Dropped the fly right in the diner plate, got a number of good cast into the run but I got nothing! I backed down, knowing that I would have to keep on trying this new spot. Came off the river at o'dark thirty and headed home to the local brewpub for a pint or two of their, just released, Creekside Pale Ale, which I think is their best beer to date!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/120614-1.jpg)

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(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/120614-15.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/120614-16.jpg)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on December 08, 2014, 11:39:20 am
I hadn't been up to the Smith since springtime but decided to hit the road Saturday around 11 to see how she was doing. Planned on running and gunning but I stuck a good fish on the 5th cast and stayed in the same general area all day.
Glad I went because I had my most succesful day I have ever had on a section of river where I have been skunked plenty before but knew good fish lurked. When conditions are right like they were saturday these browns just crush a certain fly on the swing.

Best brown of the year for me. Iphone pics forgot my camera  b';
(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv171/gamatt53/stuff/fish4_zpsd35f56f7.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/gamatt53/media/stuff/fish4_zpsd35f56f7.jpg.html)

(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv171/gamatt53/stuff/fish5_zpsbb4f5f02.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/gamatt53/media/stuff/fish5_zpsbb4f5f02.jpg.html)

(http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv171/gamatt53/stuff/fish1_zps21105737.jpg) (http://s681.photobucket.com/user/gamatt53/media/stuff/fish1_zps21105737.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on December 08, 2014, 12:54:45 pm
 'c; Hell yeah
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 08, 2014, 13:07:47 pm
Mighty fine fish. Redemption song.   'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on December 08, 2014, 13:49:47 pm
Nice! I might have to head that way this weekend.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 14, 2014, 11:17:24 am



http://youtu.be/Y1q4Eb34mwM (http://youtu.be/Y1q4Eb34mwM)

Clear skies be damned, I'm still throwing streamers...

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/121314-1.jpg)
the streamer bite was off,  so I took this pic.

I switched to dredging the bottom with a rubber legs, and then got low holed by two spinners,
who, armed with worms and Rapalas proceeded to whack'em, I moved on and hit the last
chance big run and found some fish that were interested in my offering.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/121314-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/121314-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/121314-4.jpg)

Left the river and got ready to move on down the road, reached down into my waders and
removed my wallet as I planned to may a drive through snack run, but when I got there,
I couldn't find my wallet, which I thought I tossed onto the seat. I pulled out of line and
tore the Miata apart looking for it. I began to freak out as I feared I was loosing my mind.
Drove back to the put in scouring the road and parking lot, but it wasn't there. Tore everything
out of the car once again, and then patted down my waders in hopes that I had somehow
dropped it. This was beginning to ruin my day, and I was ready to call it quits ad drive home.
So I took off my waders and there, down in the bottom was my wallet! Crazy, I guess the
gravel guard prevented me from feeling it. Well, that only took a half hour or so. Got my
snack and drove on down the road to the next spot.


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/121314-5.jpg)

Hiked in and ran the rubber legs through some of the runs, got a nice bump, in a spot
where I've never taken a fish before, but that was it. I switched back to the streamer as
the sun was fully off the water now. After a while I double hauled the lead eyed streamer
right into the tip of the rod, THWACK! Oh, shit, I broke the tip off the rod.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/121314-6.jpg)

Hiked back to the car to rig up the spare and went back in. Started way up at the top
and worked my way back on down. Finally got a nice one swinging in the tail of a big
pool. It was 5:22, 18 minutes past sunset. I hoped for another and fished on for another
20 minutes or so before hiking out in the dark.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/121314-7.jpg)
flash went off

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2014/12/121314-8.jpg)
turned it off 1/2 sec. f/2 iso 100

Until next time.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on December 14, 2014, 11:22:12 am
Veddy nice, boss.  Still have yet to wank it on the Smith.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 14, 2014, 11:25:29 am
Nice, big guy.
Way to squeeze in that broken rod just before the end of the year.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 14, 2014, 11:42:19 am
Quote from: Dougfish on December 14, 2014, 11:25:29 am
Nice, big guy.
Way to squeeze in that broken rod just before the end of the year.


it didn't last long, purchased 3/6/14
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on December 21, 2014, 18:37:52 pm
Didn't have time to run 3 hours west today. So I settled on the Smiff. I decided to do some exploring today, and fish some areas I have never fished before. I can count on both hands how many times I've been to the Smith.

Arrived at 9am, 38 degrees
First run I fished yields this guy
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/shareimage20141221_171309_zps858fa1da.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/shareimage20141221_171309_zps858fa1da.jpg.html)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/shareimage20141221_171545_zps2a5f9e38.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/shareimage20141221_171545_zps2a5f9e38.jpg.html)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/shareimage20141221_171705_zpsfa3308d4.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/shareimage20141221_171705_zpsfa3308d4.jpg.html)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/shareimage20141221_171615_zpsafe6932a.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/shareimage20141221_171615_zpsafe6932a.jpg.html)

First cast into a run and I thought I was hung up. Until the rock took off down stream. My biggest Smith brown to date.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/shareimage20141221_171118_zps55d04c08.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/shareimage20141221_171118_zps55d04c08.jpg.html)
a hair under 19

Caught many more that weren't camera worthy. The sun came out about 2:30 and I decided not to push my luck.

Some fine wine for the ride home
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/shareimage20141221_171741_zps81a19c18.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/shareimage20141221_171741_zps81a19c18.jpg.html)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jtdriver/shareimage20141221_171828_zps06a6a26a.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/jtdriver/media/shareimage20141221_171828_zps06a6a26a.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on December 21, 2014, 19:05:49 pm
Well fuck, that be a nice haul there homes 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 21, 2014, 19:40:21 pm
Well, shit.   'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on December 21, 2014, 21:14:37 pm
 'c; 'c; 'c; Very nice.

Less than two weeks more of this insanity called deer hunting which I get afflicted with every fall and I'm switching gears. Anyone know a good delayed harvest stream I can hone my skills on?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on December 22, 2014, 09:42:30 am
Driver, fish number 3 appears to have a clipped adipose fin.  That would make it an upstream transplant; appears to be enjoying it's new home.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on December 22, 2014, 12:46:45 pm
I forgot about the fin clipping until afterwards. So I didn't look for it while on the stream.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on December 26, 2014, 18:39:50 pm


Fin and Doug convinced me to fish the Smith. I was pleased with it. Threw streamers and was rewarded.

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m144/BigJSV2/65187E10-5BEA-45BA-BDAE-17EBA14A844D_zps0o8lrda3.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/BigJSV2/media/65187E10-5BEA-45BA-BDAE-17EBA14A844D_zps0o8lrda3.jpg.html)
Cheap gas

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m144/BigJSV2/0837ABFE-0D5B-4341-BAC7-C6051121AF16_zpsyppfbhab.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/BigJSV2/media/0837ABFE-0D5B-4341-BAC7-C6051121AF16_zpsyppfbhab.jpg.html)
FIL assuming I'm incompetent. 

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m144/BigJSV2/48070C65-CCA8-4609-87F7-196D92465446_zpsw5j8kjqo.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/BigJSV2/media/48070C65-CCA8-4609-87F7-196D92465446_zpsw5j8kjqo.jpg.html)
Cold morning drive

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m144/BigJSV2/0EAB555B-A486-4125-A0EE-9AE21CEEE77A_zpspvgpy7vq.jpg) (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/BigJSV2/media/0EAB555B-A486-4125-A0EE-9AE21CEEE77A_zpspvgpy7vq.jpg.html)
Was rewarded. I had good guides though to show me the ropes.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on December 26, 2014, 20:21:20 pm
Are you trying to say a pack of Newports is outrageous?  $4.99????  Good lawd!  That's a lot of mamma-jamma!

p;- on you guys!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on December 27, 2014, 22:32:32 pm
Dang spork.  You killed it today.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on December 28, 2014, 00:28:10 am
Nice!  What a difference a day makes.  Friday we dealt with 400 + CFS and muddy water.  Tough fishing and even tougher wading.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 28, 2014, 08:41:35 am
Fudger.  {S;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Beetle on December 28, 2014, 09:13:11 am
Nice job!   One more day of this and I am done finally.  Time to go fishing
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: mealworm on December 28, 2014, 12:43:46 pm
That explains why I couldn't find a parking spot down there.
Had to settle for dinks on dry flies further north.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on December 28, 2014, 20:37:37 pm
Quote from: mealworm on December 28, 2014, 12:43:46 pm
That explains why I couldn't find a parking spot down there.
Had to settle for dinks on dry flies further north.


Do your really live in Needmore?  I'm trying to understand why you're fishing at the Smith. I've been scoping out stuff in your backyard.  I've crossed the Smith on my way to various jobs about 50 times.  Not once have I fished there.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: mealworm on December 28, 2014, 21:01:50 pm
Quote from: Phallus in Wonderland on December 28, 2014, 20:37:37 pm
Quote from: mealworm on December 28, 2014, 12:43:46 pm
That explains why I couldn't find a parking spot down there.
Had to settle for dinks on dry flies further north.


Do your really live in Needmore?  I'm trying to understand why you're fishing at the Smith. I've been scoping out stuff in your backyard.  I've crossed the Smith on my way to various jobs about 50 times.  Not once have I fished there.


I travel a LOT.  Spent many days on the Smith before.  Was feeling a little nostalgic.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on December 29, 2014, 13:11:47 pm
Some of these fine showings will surely cause some groin anxiety for some.  Wonder if this will ultimately result in more dick on the smiff.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 29, 2014, 16:35:15 pm
Quote from: Phallus in Wonderland on December 29, 2014, 13:11:47 pm
Some of these fine showings will surely cause some groin anxiety for some.  Wonder if this will ultimately result in more dick on the smiff.


Yes, I am sure the river will see a few more visitors.  The somewhat recent encouraging fishy photos and reports coupled with the fresh management strategy for the resource will create a beckoning aroma.  The whole contemporary uniqueness could be a double-edged sword. 

Heck fire, if I had the time, the equipment, and the knowledge I might even follow the scent.  I will say I am happy for the Smith lovers; they are enjoying the fishery and it appears they are having a great time.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on December 29, 2014, 17:57:34 pm
 p;- good luck to all and any who wanna give er' a go, she's a nasty bitch, not all that good lookin either...my type I guess
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on December 30, 2014, 20:01:56 pm
Quote from: mealworm on December 28, 2014, 12:43:46 pm
That explains why I couldn't find a parking spot down there.
Had to settle for dinks on dry flies further north.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 31, 2014, 11:50:26 am
I managed to hit the Smith with the Sally dog, nothing going on up top, so we scooted on down to where the Sprok was killing 'em, but that was any better for me...
Slid off a rock into a deep hole, got soaked, flooded the waders, but fished on for a while before quitting
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on December 31, 2014, 21:01:30 pm
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood on December 29, 2014, 16:35:15 pm
Quote from: Phallus in Wonderland on December 29, 2014, 13:11:47 pm
Some of these fine showings will surely cause some groin anxiety for some.  Wonder if this will ultimately result in more dick on the smiff.


Yes, I am sure the river will see a few more visitors.  The somewhat recent encouraging fishy photos and reports coupled with the fresh management strategy for the resource will create a beckoning aroma.  The whole contemporary uniqueness could be a double-edged sword. 



I know a lot of folks are into "secret spots" and I'm with them when it comes to small streams. I have also been around the Smith long enough that IMHO if not for the hue and cry put out by a few which caught the attention of many others we would not be where we are today. The more folks who fish the water the larger a voice we have. We seem to have arrested the downward decline. Still too early to tell if the upward trend will continue but it is not for the lack of trying.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 01, 2015, 22:20:52 pm

http://youtu.be/1Ahtcp_LUwg (http://youtu.be/1Ahtcp_LUwg)

late start, was invited to float the soho, but I didn't get up in time and besides it was friggin cold in Tennessee. So it was off to the local, where, last week, spork landed three good fish on streamers. Brand new 300 grain sink tip, a Christmas present, on the reel.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/1/010115-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/1/010115-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/1/010115-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/1/010115-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/1/010115-5.jpg)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 02, 2015, 18:18:41 pm


http://youtu.be/OFgHy-ia8RM (http://youtu.be/OFgHy-ia8RM)

Consuminfire and I rang in the new year by getting our arses handed to us on a cold, small stream.
Did it on this stream last February, too.  b'; Less snow this time, though.
We then scouted some sketchy water, some promising new water, and I ended up driving home in my waders and boots.
Defeated. Well shit.

The highlight of the morning. Local nog, bourbon. Breakfast of skunkage.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-liSuyajwb00/VKcDdCMRZSI/AAAAAAAAd2s/4TNBpfqs2Yo/w402-h540-no/P1010003.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FLNc0z9wqTI/VKcDfiTxw0I/AAAAAAAAd28/UDIpjqXc_74/w720-h540-no/P1010006.JPG)

That left me in a foul mood. You see, I got skunked slingin streamers last Friday. Fuck this.
Nobody was looking for me to be very productive today anyhow. Redemption time.  d:b

Got down to the usual and there was some river virgin from Durm waiting on his buddy river virgin from Cheater Hill.
Gave him a few tidbits and was on the water by 10:30.
First run, three fish, one miss, one unbuttoned. OK, this more like it.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rWkO_9vYXy8/VKcDj9P_N8I/AAAAAAAAd3U/lW6jNJ6z1XE/w720-h540-no/P1020009.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AOnk2CvXjiQ/VKcDrYSNNII/AAAAAAAAd4M/SXtnuWTxXos/w720-h540-no/P1020023.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mtAavw1BV9s/VKcDskUKAII/AAAAAAAAd4U/Tu0WHJthH5M/w720-h540-no/P1020024.JPG)

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Dammit Scott, told you we should fished here yesterday!
Water temp was 42 degrees. I only saw a handful of BWO's coming off.
All damage was done deep. It slowed a little after that, but I kept picking up fish. Pretty nice fish, too.
Tall boy with lunch.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qVCWo7vNbUo/VKcDwCK9PqI/AAAAAAAAd4s/NmOnl2OLF18/w679-h540-no/P1020028.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6hrIhvXcCWY/VKcDxrokDbI/AAAAAAAAd40/MRjbU0UTvfA/w429-h540-no/P1020032.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nCpZS5EY7ic/VKcDy7wLFlI/AAAAAAAAd48/ykv5eNpiQ6U/w720-h540-no/P1020062.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PlfKIWPMjaw/VKcDkybzmSI/AAAAAAAAd3c/uHM7TQQUZJs/w764-h540-no/P1020012.JPG)

Woolly wasn't home.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nQIzm1Hgf1I/VKcD8i48FcI/AAAAAAAAd50/sCVgMgHQ65o/w720-h540-no/P1020069.JPG)

Two spin guys showed up on the bank about 75 feet ahead of me and started to rig up.
I busted some etiquette on them and advised that I was fishing this run. They went down below me and I said Thank You.
But the mojo was gone, and I soon hung it up.

NC crew was parking challenged.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Tjby_JR1I2c/VKcEGi4LrKI/AAAAAAAAd6c/IjDmRnK_CT0/w720-h540-no/P1020074.JPG)

Thanks for the new tasty beers from up the valley, bro.
0:0


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on January 02, 2015, 18:58:39 pm
What we did and what we should've done, will always be two different things!  Nice work! 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on January 02, 2015, 21:41:44 pm
Well that does it Doug. I reckon I will haul my arse up there to play with ice tit.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on January 04, 2015, 11:15:42 am
Well damn, that be some fine catchin there.  I'd drive an hour and a half for that.

QuoteBut i swear smith browns are actually muskys.


Yessir.  That is the reason for my brown love.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 04, 2015, 12:50:09 pm
Mitey fine, boys. Mitey fine.  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Jfey on January 04, 2015, 12:53:31 pm
Glad you finally caught a fish
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: benben reincarnated on January 04, 2015, 13:17:14 pm
Shit Erik.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bmadd on January 04, 2015, 14:04:23 pm
Nice fish bum and nice pics. I was disappointed that the bottle of champagne in pic 2 was not popped midstream.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Aka on January 04, 2015, 17:39:41 pm
All y'all just suck.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on January 04, 2015, 18:52:41 pm
Thats it! These Smith reports have to stop! This sucker is going to be as crowded the SoHo before long if reports like these keep getting out.;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on January 04, 2015, 19:08:41 pm
That is a nice fish Bum.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: consumnfire1229 on January 04, 2015, 20:07:49 pm
 :o 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on January 04, 2015, 20:32:53 pm
...need maps and flashing lights for all the parking areas   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 05, 2015, 08:24:34 am
You fuckers had high water to fish, too.

Damn you.  n!n

Hotspotter money, these posts.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: SouthernDrifts on January 08, 2015, 20:27:13 pm
Darren. Met you and your freind out near the mirror plant sunday. Was wondering if you could email me the picture of my catch of the day? Baughman803@gmail.com thanks
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 08, 2015, 21:19:27 pm
Don't think Darren is on this board
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 08, 2015, 21:57:05 pm
Another Roanoker on here? WTF.

Dude, I'll pass it on to Darrin.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ptfranze on January 15, 2015, 23:49:29 pm
So how muddy is the Smith going to be this weekend?  Anyone heading up there?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 16, 2015, 07:41:51 am
Gin clear.

Going? Maaaaaybe.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1tSwn-XRRjs/VLj4ERa4GBI/AAAAAAAAeAQ/iaxBm9JLrvM/w405-h540-no/P1150002.JPG)

Without the 9' 4 wt., though. Broke at the first ferrule and here.  p;-
Guess I'll be reviewing the new Recon rod soon.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ruttness on January 16, 2015, 08:44:54 am
They replacing it with the recon?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on January 16, 2015, 10:51:45 am
Quote from: Dougfish on January 16, 2015, 07:41:51 am

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1tSwn-XRRjs/VLj4ERa4GBI/AAAAAAAAeAQ/iaxBm9JLrvM/w405-h540-no/P1150002.JPG)

Without the 9' 4 wt., though. Broke at the first ferrule and here.  p;-
Guess I'll be reviewing the new Recon rod soon.


I'm guessing there is a story behind that broke rod and it does not involve hooking up to a fish. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TroutMedic on January 16, 2015, 11:36:15 am
Someone thinks it's clear enough to fish.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TroutMedic on January 16, 2015, 11:36:56 am
Someone thinks it's clear enough to fish.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 16, 2015, 12:22:18 pm
Quote from: Al on January 16, 2015, 10:51:45 am
I'm guessing there is a story behind that broke rod and it does not involve hooking up to a fish.


Aren't most rods broke on something besides fish?
I casted the top three sections off while chucking streamers for a couple of hours without checking to see if things were loosening up.
Took about 3/4" of the male ferrule with it. Knew it was doomed after that.
5 or 6 trips later, and many fish, it snapped on a hang up. Weaker than 5x tippet.
When it's time, it's time.
Going in the mail today.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on January 21, 2015, 18:19:28 pm
It's taken a while to get folks thinking like this but there may be life in the old Smith after all

http://www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=45154 (http://www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=45154)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on January 21, 2015, 18:59:18 pm
They should worry about improving stream conditions, not stream bank conditions.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 21, 2015, 20:11:24 pm
Money spent on anything along the river causes people to look closer at the river itself.
It's all good in the end.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TroutMedic on January 21, 2015, 21:53:07 pm
I think that money is suppose to be for a bait shop as well   Would be nice to get a fly shop.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TroutMedic on January 23, 2015, 15:03:26 pm
Fished this morning.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on February 24, 2015, 10:07:12 am
Update to this:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1tSwn-XRRjs/VLj4ERa4GBI/AAAAAAAAeAQ/iaxBm9JLrvM/w405-h540-no/P1150002.JPG)

Got the rod back from the big O yesterday. Almost 5 weeks to the day.
Still a Hydros, not a Recon. They replaced the bottom section only. I guess they deemed the female ferrule in the next section OK.
The quality of the cork is not as good as the original, either. They are not getting five stars from me on this deal.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on May 24, 2015, 14:35:43 pm
Nice report. Still using waders?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 24, 2015, 14:49:38 pm
Waders?
It's a tailwater. 44 degrees right now. Come on up, lets watch you wet wade.  -+;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on May 24, 2015, 15:03:37 pm
I wasn't being a smartass. I was really actually curious. I haven't been there.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on May 24, 2015, 15:23:48 pm
No worries. I'm going to try it. Hopefully sooner than later.

Last year I was wet wading a river at the first of April I think it was. Leg cramps like a champ. I wondered if I would make it back to my truck. No fun. Caught some nice smallies though.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 24, 2015, 15:44:34 pm
I thought everybody on here was a smartass?
Me included.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on May 24, 2015, 15:46:52 pm
I think you're right. Fukk it.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 24, 2015, 17:07:10 pm
Let me see if I can add a little to TF's trip report. First of all it was a good trip even if we fished our butt off and didn't do as well as we had hoped. Just getting out with good friends is what if is all about anyway.

Light was fading fast by the time we rigged up and made it to the "hot spot" where the annual sulfur hatch had been reported to be under way. The fact that we had the parking lot to ourselves was a clue that it might have been an unfounded rumor :'(
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm030/IMGP1561_zpsaokpg2ci.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm030/IMGP1561_zpsaokpg2ci.jpg.html)

I gave TF the prime run and moved upstream a ways so as to let him move back and forth if need be. There really was not any surface activity. A few insects (probably sulfurs) were coming off but nothing was raising to them.  It was a long time before I heard a shout and saw a bend in his rod.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm030/IMGP1603_zpse1ze9k4c.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm030/IMGP1603_zpse1ze9k4c.jpg.html)

In the meantime I targeted a fish that was periodically rising in a seam right up against the far bank. About the third drift down past him and there was a "gulp" and the fight was on. Nothing big but at least I had the potential "skunk" out of the way.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm030/IMGP1568_zpsoji9nmeo.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm030/IMGP1568_zpsoji9nmeo.jpg.html)

By the time I released my first fish the water all in front of me started dimpling and with feeding fish. I was able to put a bend in my rod about every third or fourth cast. I shouted to TF to get his butt up here but he replied he was observing lots of rises in his section as well (But he was not able to entice them - I think he has a stimulator up on top which was way too big for what the fish were keying on)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm030/IMGP1587_zps6adqsyci.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm030/IMGP1587_zps6adqsyci.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm030/IMGP1572_zpsxqoolqir.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm030/IMGP1572_zpsxqoolqir.jpg.html)

I got to the point where I could not see my fly and just reacted anytime I say a splash near where I thought it was. It was over as quickly as in began - they totally stopped rising just before dark.

The following morning we went to one of my "secret" spots.  We did some re-rigging and tied on double nymphs backed up with indicators.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm030/IMGP1573_zps6j5xopyo.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm030/IMGP1573_zps6j5xopyo.jpg.html)

The water was a little low, gin clear and the sky was one of those "Chamber of Commerce" days. Not a good formula for fishing.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm030/IMGP1579_zpsfpodl0xx.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm030/IMGP1579_zpsfpodl0xx.jpg.html)

We caught a few but for the most part they were "dinks" - Just before we reached our "get out point" TF shouted "I've got a nice one on - now if I can just get him in.  I watched for several minutes and we both thought he had foul hooked an 8-9 inch fish and was pulling it in sideways. When it finally made an appearance it was a large shouldered brown fairly hooked in the mouth. Now to play it cool until a net could be slipped under him.
http://(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm032/IMGP1584_zpsdexsjpju.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm032/IMGP1584_zpsdexsjpju.jpg.html)

Nice brown - just about as large as I have seen in the past 2-3 years in that section of the river.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm032/IMGP1590_zpsezihnj0t.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm032/IMGP1590_zpsezihnj0t.jpg.html)

We spent the afternoon moving around to several other sections of the river - all of which have yealded double digets in an hour or so of fishing, but not today. A fish here and there but only one worth writing home about
http://(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm030/IMGP1612_zpsy9mulxrf.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm030/IMGP1612_zpsy9mulxrf.jpg.html)

Back at my cabin where we picked up our overnight bags and loaded up for the long drive back to Fayetteville. Just before I left I pulled the SD card from the Deer Camera I keep on the edge of the back lawn. When we got there the afternoon before I mentioned to TF I wonder why that camera is tilted almost sideways when in normally sits straight up and down? Downloaded the pictures this morning and it is obvious what happened - here is shot when things are normal, then a shot of the culprit and what he did to the camera when he didn't like his picture taken.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm031/CDY_0042_zpsnk9ezr6z.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm031/CDY_0042_zpsnk9ezr6z.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm031/CDY_0043_zps9pc7cyku.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm031/CDY_0043_zps9pc7cyku.jpg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Allieworm/Allieworm031/CDY_0045_zpsqbmltbj2.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Allieworm/media/Allieworm031/CDY_0045_zpsqbmltbj2.jpg.html)

Overall a good trip - Thanks watching after this old fart and sharing time on my favorite trout stream TF

Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 25, 2015, 10:27:41 am


http://youtu.be/Tf7DV0wEong (http://youtu.be/Tf7DV0wEong)

Went back up to the local for more sulphur action, had to wait a spell before things turned on.
Pretty spectacular when the fish start chasing down the bugs and leaping out of the water after them.
These trout don't grow big in this section due to lack of food, uber cold water and other factors, but they sure color up nice!


Waiting for the evening rise...
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-2.jpg)

little yaller bugs
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-3.jpg)


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-10.jpg)

the hatch was pretty much over by 8:30, but I fished on till 9:00
picked up a few more
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052415-11.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 25, 2015, 21:09:11 pm
 'c;
Nice efforts and reports, fellers.
I'll be there. Soon. And again. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutrus on May 26, 2015, 07:53:46 am
Thanks for the reports. I've been missing that place.
If generation ends at 6 pm, may be able to squeeze in an hour or so some evening.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on May 26, 2015, 08:18:26 am
Al can I come to your cabin?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 26, 2015, 09:02:22 am

Quote from: troutrus on May 26, 2015, 07:53:46 am
Thanks for the reports. I've been missing that place.
If generation ends at 6 pm, may be able to squeeze in an hour or so some evening.


That last hour of the day can be magic!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 27, 2015, 11:20:24 am


http://youtu.be/2Vou51-755I (http://youtu.be/2Vou51-755I)

Dead Shit Falling Out Of Trees!

I arrived at the parking lot, which was empty, at a quarter till six, fifteen minutes before the dam was to be shut off for the day. I thought about wet wading as the heat was oppressive and the thought of hiking a half mile across the field was not appealing. But I knew that come evening and the chill of the 44 degree water I would be glad that I was wearing them. Packed three ice cold Dale's into my vest and headed to the bend in the river.

The shade was a relief and I stepped into the water to cool down. Mid-thigh deep I felt the cold water work it's way into the pin holes in the waders that Simms had failed to find and seal. Six o'clock and the water was just beginning to come down from the staggered generation shut-down. I sat on the bank and popped the top on a Dale's. A little moth Butterfly - Azure kept me company as I waited for the water to drop to the point where I could wade out and swing a muddler. I played around with the microscope mode on the TG-3, capturing some close-ups of the moth. A lone Sulphur flew up from the water, and I watched as it was snatched out of the air by a dragonfly! Fish, birds, bats, and dragonflies all waiting for the feast of the little yellow bugs.

I ventured out into the stiff current and swung the muddler for a while, attracting nothing, I went back to the bank for another Dale's.  It was a full two hours before the water dropped, for some reason I was thinking it would only take an hour. Glad I brought three beers! The sun was low and the shadows were long and still I waited, eight o'clock, nothing! Eight fifteen, nothing. I'm rigged and ready, still waiting for a rise, when I hear a crash in the tree across the river and then a big splash as a dead unidentified bloated possum sized animal plops down into the run. Never seen anything like that before, snapped a pic, circled the UDSFK in red.  Eight thirty, a rise.  I turn and cast. Good drift and bam! Got 'em! Had to use forceps to remove the fly, mangled, I had to tie on another one in the fading light. Another fish rose. I cast and hooked up again.  Caught a third riser and managed to mess up the 6.5x tippet, too dark to tie, so I called it quits, and went to Papa's for a slice of pizza before the 90 minute drive home.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-10.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-11.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-12.jpg)

150 miles
3 Dale's
2 flies
3 trouts
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on May 27, 2015, 12:02:31 pm
.....and a half pack of depends
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: rbphoto on May 27, 2015, 12:53:58 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 27, 2015, 11:20:24 am

A little moth kept me company as I waited for the water to drop to the point where I could wade out and swing a muddler. I played around with the microscope mode on the TG-3, capturing some close-ups of the moth.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/052615-4.jpg)


3 Dale's
2 flies
3 trouts



Butterfly - Azure (Spring/Summer - can't ID without microscope) species.  Cool that it would sit on your hand.

One of these days I'm gonna take a week off and fish this river and surrounding areas.
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 27, 2015, 13:43:55 pm
@rbphoto , I was going to say butterfly, 50/50 chance I'd be wrong

It would only sit on my right hand, so the pics are lefty shot!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: JMiller on May 27, 2015, 14:42:41 pm
Dragonfly's a Gray Petaltail.
Nice pics.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 27, 2015, 15:59:12 pm
What's with animals falling out of the trees dead, this week?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 27, 2015, 17:35:24 pm

Quote from: driver on May 27, 2015, 15:59:12 pm
What's with animals falling out of the trees dead, this week?


What? Who else has had dead shit fall out of a tree?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 27, 2015, 21:20:28 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 27, 2015, 17:35:24 pm

Quote from: driver on May 27, 2015, 15:59:12 pm
What's with animals falling out of the trees dead, this week?


What? Who else has had dead shit fall out of a tree?


http://www.brfff.com/forum/index.php/topic,13207.0.html (http://www.brfff.com/forum/index.php/topic,13207.0.html)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 27, 2015, 21:28:55 pm
Go WB!

Speaking of dead aminals.......
I spent way too much time on the highways the past 6 days.
Are the deer suicidal right now? Ho Le Fuk, every half mile across three states they have hurtled themselves into internal combustion vehicles.
Oh, the deermanity.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 27, 2015, 21:32:25 pm
@driver, I read that post... just forgot...
@Dougfish , I've seen too many deer getting ready to jump, scary thought in any vehicle, but especially so in a Miata...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 28, 2015, 21:11:36 pm
What size are  those sulfurs that have been coming off?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 28, 2015, 21:19:05 pm
Size 14 worked for me.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 28, 2015, 21:20:32 pm
14-!8, IMHO.

Bring emergers, comparaduns, spinners.

A buddy got skunked last night. A good fisherman.  b';
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 28, 2015, 21:20:46 pm
I've been fishing #16 and #18 puff daddy's and comparaduns cdc and elk with and without trailing shucks

I used to fish 7x but have switched to trout hunters 6.5x and because of those esn competitive assholes I am now using a 14' leader
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 28, 2015, 21:24:16 pm

Quote from: Dougfish on May 28, 2015, 21:20:32 pm
14-!8, IMHO.

Bring emergers, comparaduns, spinners.

A buddy got skunked last night. A good fisherman.  b';


That hatch after the 6 pm generation wasn't much to speak of on Monday evening.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 28, 2015, 21:32:18 pm
Thanks for the info. Since im sitting at the bench now, i figured id knock a few out.  I might give it a whirl tomorrow or Saturday.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 28, 2015, 21:33:40 pm
The evenings have been, meh.

I'm going morning next week to switch shit up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 28, 2015, 21:46:47 pm
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/28/6afe63e54709343549e8950e06ab7261.jpg)

I tied some up this evening, would advise against the Friday evening as they don't cut the water off till six
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 28, 2015, 22:23:15 pm
Good to know
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 29, 2015, 19:11:56 pm
thinking of hitting it in the morning if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 29, 2015, 20:32:15 pm
Shane will be there.  8)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 30, 2015, 23:24:54 pm
The smith is a cruel bitch, that is all!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 30, 2015, 23:40:53 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 30, 2015, 23:24:54 pm
The smith is a cruel bitch, that is all!


Agreed!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 31, 2015, 12:42:33 pm


Quote from: driver on May 31, 2015, 12:40:37 pm
Well. I tried to see if I could get in on a morning hatch. Saw 3 bugs. So I fished around the hatch area for a few hours. Took a few nymphs to determine what they wanted. But once I had the right one I was surprised when I didn't catch a fish out of a run. I forgot my camera so i didn't take many pictures for not wanting to take my new phone out over the water.

Best fish up there
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/31/d76ab7ab079eb2fa4aa5b9389e045251.jpg)

after this I hit some other areas, took a brake. Then I decided to stay for the evening hatch. I was out of beer at this point, so I stopped and resupplied and headed back up river. And waited..

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/31/1d893dfed922dd03721aedc5eb144da6.jpg)

Rather slow hatch.. Had lots of fish rising, but they didn't want anything to do with the 8 different flies I tried. I guess until next year.



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2015, 13:31:11 pm


Hoping for an evening hatch / spinner fall we headed up the road and arrived at the mirror plant around six o'clock. I looked and sounded like there were doing some work on the Townes Creek bridge and the sound of the compressor droned on down the river to the end of Philpott's field intruding into the otherwise peaceful solitude that the river offers. After hiking in waders the 1/3 of a mile across the mowed and tilled field we waded waste deep into the cold waters to cool off! Nothing much was happening on the river, so we drank a beer and waited. I gave some basic casting lesson and let my friend give it a try while we waited for the hatch and rising fish. I thought that if there was high volume of bugs, like previous night, there was a good chance that she would get into a fish or two. Unfortunately, the steady risers were either across the river, too far for her to cast, or in the slick of the run were they are extremely picky. She took off and targeted one steady riser at the tail of the pool while I caught a few in the foam line running along the far bank. As dark approached the activity picked up a little and it one little spot there were five or six fish feeding actively, surely, with a lucky cast she could hook one of them, I thought. Tangled lines and snagged hooks ensued, and then she took off after another riser, she did manage to slip, trip and fall into the river. Laughing, she headed to shore to recover, I thought she was done for the day, but after a short time she rejoined me in our futile attempts to catch another fish before dark.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/053015-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/053015-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/5/053015-3.jpg)

Not sure, but I think the best of the 2015 sulphur hatch is behind us now...


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 31, 2015, 16:25:52 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2015, 13:31:11 pm


Not sure, but I think the best of the 2015 sulphur hatch is behind us now...




Gezzzz, I hope so. Now we can get down to real fishing :P
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2015, 16:42:44 pm
Quote from: Al on May 31, 2015, 16:25:52 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2015, 13:31:11 pm


Not sure, but I think the best of the 2015 sulphur hatch is behind us now...




Gezzzz, I hope so. Now we can get down to real fishing :P


allieworms? -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 31, 2015, 16:54:56 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2015, 16:42:44 pm
Quote from: Al on May 31, 2015, 16:25:52 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2015, 13:31:11 pm


Not sure, but I think the best of the 2015 sulphur hatch is behind us now...




Gezzzz, I hope so. Now we can get down to real fishing :P


allieworms? -0-


Whatever it takes :o  Seriously - I've caught more fish this year on a midge dropped off the curve of the hook of my allieworm or some other dark colored nymph. I suspect beetles, ants and hoppers will come into their own before long.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 31, 2015, 20:23:10 pm
Quote from: Al on May 31, 2015, 16:25:52 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2015, 13:31:11 pm


Not sure, but I think the best of the 2015 sulphur hatch is behind us now...




Gezzzz, I hope so. Now we can get down to real fishing :P


Yep! As hot as it has been, I hope to not put my waders on until November...

It's time to catch fish measured in pounds, not inches!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 01, 2015, 10:55:36 am
I am now officially done with the lower river until fall!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on June 01, 2015, 11:04:19 am
Quoteallieworms? -0-


Make fun if you want but the allieworm was the truth this Saturday on the small carp.  Two pound carp on a 3 weight glass rod is a blast.  Only problem I had was the damn hook kept straightening out; not a problem I encounter with mild mannered trout.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on June 01, 2015, 16:46:06 pm
Quotecarp. Al and I hit a hole two weeks ago that had a bunch of em on the bottom; just hanging out


Just to be clear, the carp was not from the Smith.  I was only pointing out the crossover appeal of the great allieworm.  /'/

Fished the Smith my whole life but have never seen a carp; suckers, now that's another story.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on June 01, 2015, 16:57:42 pm
Fin hijacking the smith thread like a boss. Carp on a 3 weight like a damned nihilist
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 01, 2015, 17:08:00 pm
[size=150]Dead trees falling into the water![/size]

Being the responsible person that I am, I took off early this morning and hit the lower river for an hour or so. Slung articulated streamers, but either nobody was home or the just weren't interested. The far bank was in deep morning shade, and I would have thought I'd get an eat. I'm ready to blow this section of water until the fall anyway.

Hiking in the trail was crisscrossed with spider webs, this Garden Spiders web caught my eye and I took some pics before destroying its work. The I hear the loud snapping of limbs as a large dead tree gave up part of itself to the river. What was so strange was that there wasn't any breeze at all. Just flat calm. So, when the tree falls, it does make a noise.

Have a good week y'all!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/060115-1.jpg)


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/060115-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 01, 2015, 17:08:54 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on June 01, 2015, 16:00:02 pm
Quotelower river


May I recommend some streamers that look like any of the 5,500 fingerling dink food competitors they stocked down there?


they put those triploid browns in??? n!n n!n  n!n
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 01, 2015, 17:38:05 pm
Yep.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on June 01, 2015, 20:18:53 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on June 01, 2015, 17:08:54 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on June 01, 2015, 16:00:02 pm
Quotelower river


May I recommend some streamers that look like any of the 5,500 fingerling dink food competitors they stocked down there?


they put those triploid browns in??? n!n n!n  n!n

?? When did they do this?
I caught a bow in the lower section Saturday. Plus 4 clippers

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on June 01, 2015, 20:25:04 pm
Quote from: driver on June 01, 2015, 20:18:53 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on June 01, 2015, 17:08:54 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on June 01, 2015, 16:00:02 pm
Quotelower river


May I recommend some streamers that look like any of the 5,500 fingerling dink food competitors they stocked down there?


they put those triploid browns in??? n!n n!n  n!n

?? When did they do this?
I caught a bow in the lower section Saturday. Plus 4 clippers


Rainbows wander.  I caught a DH bow 20 miles downstream of point of stocking while bass fishing this past week.  Oddly enough the fish was very acrobatic despite the water temps being in the mid-upper 70s.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on June 01, 2015, 20:29:35 pm
It was a gnarly looking stocker, no gill plates. It was either stocked or went over the dam.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: BRFFF on June 01, 2015, 22:22:59 pm

Quote from: driver on June 01, 2015, 20:29:35 pm
It was a gnarly looking stocker, no gill plates. It was either stocked or went over the dam.

Surely you must mean the Maxillary (part of the mouth) and not the gill plate ?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on June 01, 2015, 22:38:50 pm
It was it gill plates. Gills on both sides were exposed.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: BRFFF on June 01, 2015, 23:42:46 pm

Quote from: driver on June 01, 2015, 22:38:50 pm
It was it gill plates. Gills on both sides were exposed.

Damn I can't imagine it living long that way
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Shane on June 02, 2015, 10:35:16 am
Fished upper Sunday night. Saw a handful of dead trout in the water - weird. Smattering of bugs. One streamborn rainbow about 14 inches. He gave good fight
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Shane on June 03, 2015, 11:04:55 am
Quote from: troutfanatic on June 02, 2015, 16:00:30 pm
Any ideas on the cause of said dead trout?


All Browns. All about 5-6 inches. I wonder if they dumped some of those triploids up there and these were bridge dump fatalities
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on June 09, 2015, 14:36:07 pm
Fished Saturday afternoon for the first time in a couple of months.  I fished one spot for a little while and caught 3 or 4 including one decent one.  Went on upstream and for another hour and caught about another 10.  That hour was strong.  Most of them were in the slot.  I was some kind of glad to be back and not have to throw midges.


(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/obcrouch001/Smith%206-5-15%20003_zpsj6iuim5n.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/obcrouch001/Smith%206-5-15%20003_zpsj6iuim5n.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/obcrouch001/Smith%206-5-15%20005_zps8bdwqq9r.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/obcrouch001/Smith%206-5-15%20005_zps8bdwqq9r.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/obcrouch001/Smith%206-5-15%20008_zps3sjsygdf.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/obcrouch001/Smith%206-5-15%20008_zps3sjsygdf.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/obcrouch001/Smith%206-5-15%20010_zpsfbsllfee.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/obcrouch001/Smith%206-5-15%20010_zpsfbsllfee.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 09, 2015, 17:21:04 pm
Glad to see ya back Ben. I missed that silver watch band. :D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 09, 2015, 17:46:22 pm
Good on ya, Ben!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 29, 2015, 19:02:41 pm


http://youtu.be/DKftiJS30Cs (http://youtu.be/DKftiJS30Cs)
R.I.P. Chris Squire... at 67...


I finally got a few hours to myself and put off fixing the turn signals on the Miataa (wiring problems) and headed up to the closest cold water not expecting much but surprised to see a succession of rising fish. It wasn't exactly on fire but I did mange to catch bunch of pune brown trouts. If they showed themselves I could, eventually, catch them on the puff daddy. When the hatch slowed down I tied on a soft hackle and caught a few more. I would have stayed late, but I had dinner plans, so I left just after five, and go going back up the hill... Oh, shit, what's that noise, and shaking? Crap, a friggin flat! Damnation, that road hazard that I couldn't avoid had punctured the tire. I unloaded the trunk and tried my best to bust those lug nuts free with the standard (way too friggin short to do any good) wrench.  After a while another Miata passed by and then stopped to offer assistance, a real 18" breaker bar. Now we're dealing, or so I thought, the damn spare (doughnut) didn't have enough air and I rode it on down the mountain to a stop-an-rob, picked up a can of 'fix-a-flat" and put the tire back on... Hot and stinky, I was way late for dinner as I dropped the car off at the tire store, time for a new set for the Miata...  Destroying the spare was the worst of the whole thing...

Here's the usual dink / pune Smiff River brooon trouts...


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-5.jpg)

Here's one for Doug, what kind of tree is that with the blooming tassels?

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/6/062815-10.jpg)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 29, 2015, 19:46:49 pm
Sourwood, boss. Oxydendron arboreum.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on June 29, 2015, 20:57:14 pm
Having not spent meaningful time on the water in at least a month, I would be down for tailwater, punes, anything but work. 

Now I understand why you spend so much time at the smitty....48 degree beer 'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TylerDurden on June 29, 2015, 21:01:10 pm
Great stuff Woolly

Those smith river browns are beauts. Been thinking about picking up a Va fishing lic and hitting the smith seeing as its only an hour away from me...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 29, 2015, 22:13:27 pm
Quote from: Phallus in Wonderland on June 29, 2015, 20:57:14 pm
Having not spent meaningful time on the water in at least a month, I would be down for tailwater, punes, anything but work. 

Now I understand why you spend so much time at the smitty....48 degree beer 'c;


Fishing Friday, dingleberry.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on June 30, 2015, 05:56:37 am
Quote from: Dougfish on June 29, 2015, 22:13:27 pm
Quote from: Phallus in Wonderland on June 29, 2015, 20:57:14 pm
Having not spent meaningful time on the water in at least a month, I would be down for tailwater, punes, anything but work. 

Now I understand why you spend so much time at the smitty....48 degree beer 'c;


Fishing Friday, dingleberry.


Good fer you.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 01, 2015, 17:02:30 pm



http://youtu.be/dBN86y30Ufc (http://youtu.be/dBN86y30Ufc)


I hit the road this morning to check this river out for the first time. I was forced to get a considerably late start due to getting the child ready for baby school while the mother got primped for her workday.

Good looking river. Always a little confusing when you don't know where the hell you're going. I had some assistance from some of the regulars here, much obliged.

I don't know what the hell the deal was, kept losing fish. Lost several while nymphing and several on dries as well, just came off half way through the fight. Fishing shall be fishing, still pissed me off.

Sad, ashamed and somewhat embarrassed I tucked my tail when time came to head home. The generation was scheduled for noon but it must take a little while before it's evident downriver, I fished until about 2:00.

I guess this fat ass rainbow would have to suffice today. At least I landed something. I'll definitely be back with an adjusted game plan now that I've somewhat felt this water out. Time well spent, you know, learning curve.



I couldn't really even see what I was doing when I first got in. Oh yea, that water's cold.


(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010043_zpsnicu2eic.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010043_zpsnicu2eic.jpg.html)

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010044_zpssrnf1kvx.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010044_zpssrnf1kvx.jpg.html)

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010045_zpsgtdwo3i3.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010045_zpsgtdwo3i3.jpg.html)

I caught this bow on a streamer. The one hit wonder:

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010048_zpsln3qf2bp.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010048_zpsln3qf2bp.jpg.html)

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010049_zpsgxyevngk.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010049_zpsgxyevngk.jpg.html)

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010050_zpsgbyqdgog.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010050_zpsgbyqdgog.jpg.html)


One of you drunk fucktards get too ripped to get your boots back on?

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010051_zpsqounfyib.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010051_zpsqounfyib.jpg.html)

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010052_zpsjnxkkkg3.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010052_zpsjnxkkkg3.jpg.html)

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7010053_zpsisckxpx2.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7010053_zpsisckxpx2.jpg.html)

Until next time..... n!n





Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: apache1973 on July 01, 2015, 17:13:57 pm
As I am new to the Forum I am looking for ares in Southern VA to explore and fish. I am somewhat familiar with the Smith but not where to really try and wade and fish. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: revfox on July 01, 2015, 17:29:28 pm
TF is such a nice guy.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 01, 2015, 17:38:44 pm
Good job, Wade. A swift kick in the nuts from the Smiff is not a new thing.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on July 01, 2015, 18:09:52 pm
Must have not got the rain like we did last night. Water looked pretty clean.

The Smitty has sent home with less than that many times.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 01, 2015, 20:32:09 pm
Quote from: apache1973 on July 01, 2015, 17:13:57 pm
As I am new to the Forum I am looking for ares in Southern VA to explore and fish. I am somewhat familiar with the Smith but not where to really try and wade and fish. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks


Get in your vehicle and put some footwork in. You can ask and ask (I have) but until your ass is in the water you ain't gonna catch shit.

Quote from: Dougfish on July 01, 2015, 17:38:44 pm
Good job, Wade. A swift kick in the nuts from the Smiff is not a new thing.


Quote from: driver on July 01, 2015, 18:09:52 pm
Must have not got the rain like we did last night. Water looked pretty clean.

The Smitty has sent home with less than that many times.


I'll be honest. I was happy to have fooled the several on top and nymphing, but the bastards coming unfastened on the way in got old real quick. About made me lose my religion several times.

http://youtu.be/xmxjOIoGXbs (http://youtu.be/xmxjOIoGXbs)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: apache1973 on July 01, 2015, 20:58:02 pm
I have been up behind the dam at Philpott and through Bassett in that area. Did not really know if i can go further down into Fieldale and Martinsville as I see the river but again don't know areas to park and wade. Sorry maybe I should be a little more specific.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 01, 2015, 21:07:43 pm
Dude, do an intro. Take your lumps, then contribute a TR or two before you ask for a handout.
Or suffer the wrath.

And, if it ain't posted and there aren't Rottweilers chewing on your calves, it's good access.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: apache1973 on July 01, 2015, 21:11:57 pm
My humblest apologies. I am scrolling through the damn app trying to figure out how or where to do an introduction.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: benben reincarnated on July 01, 2015, 21:15:10 pm
Quote from: apache1973 on July 01, 2015, 21:11:57 pm
My humblest apologies. I am scrolling through the damn app trying to figure out how or where to do an introduction.


Just give up now, trust me.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 01, 2015, 21:15:46 pm
I thought I was going to be doing the Rottweiler thing but the bastard never got off it's lazy ass. Just barking. All mouth.

Some bald dude was watering his flowers and I talked to him. Polite fella. Let me park in his grass. Much obliged.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: apache1973 on July 01, 2015, 21:21:09 pm
Intro done and I deserve what I get.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: revfox on July 03, 2015, 17:48:01 pm
Went up to the Smith yesterday to learn and explore. It was my first time and my dad was tagging along. He had a tough time moving around in the water and was worried about falling over (claims he is too old for this). He did alright with the casting but seeing as I wasn't catching anything new he decided to call it quits early, enjoy the scenery and nap in the car.

Started off up top and got skunked, but really enjoyed to the beauty of the river. Never seen such clear still water in a river.

Plenty of fog too to complicate things.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/afc44859ed28728c59b28908192a2af6.jpg)

Finally got the skunk off with the first hares ear my wife tied.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/48972b9f21b043c22a9b275e7f35e0aa.jpg)

Worked hard all day and it paid off finally

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/b5201813674d9603be9cd1c25adb2a26.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/fe8232e334406c5788c8086158885ec9.jpg)

I missed one about 20 inches that broke me off but at least I have a reason to go back.
Some tough fishing and some cold ass water.

Rain hit so we cut the day off a bit early
Probably needed to get home anyway.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/eb1838113dcc4f55a15fb48d076fa479.jpg)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TylerDurden on July 03, 2015, 17:57:49 pm
Check out the big brown on Brett.

Nice stuff bro. Im headed up that way next week for the first time too.

ps hope someone catches that reference
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 03, 2015, 17:57:53 pm
Nice job dude.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 03, 2015, 18:19:09 pm
Sweet.
The Sniff nets another.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on July 03, 2015, 18:52:53 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on July 03, 2015, 18:19:09 pm
Sweet.
The Sniff nets another.


That bitch won't ever net me.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 03, 2015, 19:25:52 pm
Quote from: TylerDurden on July 03, 2015, 17:57:49 pm
Check out the big brown on Brett.

Nice stuff bro. Im headed up that way next week for the first time too.

ps hope someone catches that reference

Pulp Fiction

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: TylerDurden on July 03, 2015, 19:27:31 pm
Quote from: wildmttrout on July 03, 2015, 19:25:52 pm
Quote from: TylerDurden on July 03, 2015, 17:57:49 pm
Check out the big brown on Brett.

Nice stuff bro. Im headed up that way next week for the first time too.

ps hope someone catches that reference

Pulp Fiction


(http://images.rapgenius.com/a0fw7gppl3vf89k4ncfuoj34d.552x464x1.jpg)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: revfox on July 03, 2015, 19:40:16 pm

Quote from: troutfanatic on July 03, 2015, 17:51:05 pm
Victory!

How'd your dad like the rod?


He found it pretty easy to cast. Real test will be what the father in law thinks since it's his now. Hope to take him up there in a few weeks when I get back from Seattle.

Hope to post some pictures of Steelhead and King Salmon soon!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 05, 2015, 16:46:36 pm



http://youtu.be/oGQvKU8Iaz4 (http://youtu.be/oGQvKU8Iaz4)


I headed back to the river this morning with hopes that the rain we received at home last night hadn't screwed the river up in VA. It looked as if rain had taken place but all was well.

Got into quite a few browns and a couple bows and seen a few nice sucker fish. As always, I lost far more than I landed. I don't know what I've changed to bring this on.

I left right before a hellacious rain arrived. Glad to have gotten out today.


(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7050054_zpsjqwyexjn.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7050054_zpsjqwyexjn.jpg.html)


Hercules Beetle.....I think.

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7050055_zpsui917su9.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7050055_zpsui917su9.jpg.html)


(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7050056_zpsc6fncmku.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7050056_zpsc6fncmku.jpg.html)


(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7050060_zpsan8vd39l.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7050060_zpsan8vd39l.jpg.html)


(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7050061_zpsmlswj3oa.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7050061_zpsmlswj3oa.jpg.html)


(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p543/jasonpreslar/P7050062_zpspgjvvvj3.jpg) (http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/jasonpreslar/media/P7050062_zpspgjvvvj3.jpg.html)


I'll be back.  n!n

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 05, 2015, 16:54:38 pm
Bet that Heron in pic 4 caught his limit.  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 05, 2015, 16:56:34 pm
Bet so. I thought the damned thing was going to take my head off before it put the brakes on.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 06, 2015, 09:39:17 am


http://youtu.be/9AB4hg2mbCs (http://youtu.be/9AB4hg2mbCs)

After a lazy Sunday morning I headed over to the Weatherspoon to revisit Tom Burckhardt: FULL STOP art installation... and create a Microsoft Photosynth "Walk" Check it out!
(https://photosynth.net/preview/view/3ab02138-7ea8-43af-9d82-04aab2ab5fda?startat=0)
After lunch I headed up the road to the river and after waiting out a thunderstorm I hit water. Sulfurs were a popping and fish were rising. I caught a dozen or more before the next storm blew me off the river. I forgot my "powder" and the fish would only hit a "high floating" fly, so I was constantly changing out flies as once they were slimed and dunked they had no appeal to  the trouts....

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/070515-1.jpg)


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/070515-2.jpg)


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/070515-3.jpg)


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/070515-4.jpg)


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/070515-5.jpg)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 06, 2015, 10:47:32 am
I like the "outline" Woolly.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 07, 2015, 05:53:40 am
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/07/87b81285ac7c5c48f55513f90e6f4df3.jpg)

All those smith river and soho trips add up
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 07, 2015, 09:19:02 am
When I got rid of my last truck almost a year ago it had just a few thousand miles shy of 300,000 on the odometer.  n!n
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 07, 2015, 09:43:19 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on July 07, 2015, 05:53:40 am
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/07/87b81285ac7c5c48f55513f90e6f4df3.jpg)

All those smith river and soho trips add up


Yep, tell me about it!  My 2011 Tacoma has 79K and most of that is running back and forth to the Smith.  I also put a lot on it during deer season. This is my first "rice burner" but it is holding together much better then all my previous "made in USA" vehicles.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 07, 2015, 09:55:11 am
The aforementioned 300K vehicle was a Ford Ranger, miss that truck. Had more crazy fuckin' times in that bitch than I will in every vehicle I'll ever own combined, most likely. Good times.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on July 09, 2015, 21:45:44 pm
Wooly don't call no mo.....  :(
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: BRFFF on July 09, 2015, 22:59:28 pm

Quote from: NCsporksman on July 09, 2015, 21:45:44 pm
Wooly don't call no mo.....  :(
feesin tomorrow - holler
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Da Heisenberg on July 09, 2015, 23:01:29 pm
This is a pretty cool thread- 50 pages. A lot of nice browns.

I never fished it, but I haven't fished many tailwaters other than the Holston.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 09, 2015, 23:36:51 pm


Quote from: the_sculpinator on July 09, 2015, 23:01:29 pm
I never fished it, but I haven't fished many tailwaters other than the Holston.


Cool story bro
Title: Re: Smith-Continued Hot Friday Edition
Post by: Dougfish on July 10, 2015, 15:34:30 pm


http://youtu.be/mmALL-V74Po (http://youtu.be/mmALL-V74Po)

Wore that album out.  y;
I'm headed out for four days of work in Buckeye land tomorrow. You bet I'm wearing VT garb.  n!n
Fishing fix was needed. Smith called.
But she really just wanted a tickle fight. I bailed after a few hours for some domestic duties.
Small fish were caught, a nice fish was lost at the net, it was hotter than two rats fucking in a wool sock, and blah, blah, blah.
I did have fun with a old rig. 7' 6" Berkley Parametric and J. C. Higgins reel. 6 wt. Pounded out some righteous casts.

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KbguUrFMB__R35PVkcKcpWPE0WaapzIQYz_O6KFcmVJ3=w840-h630-no)

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/N7A6wZUn-VZY2-uXYwmeqVTUNLAJaNlg23p5d28v7VJx=w840-h630-no)

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BW3okl2kNJrZ8kzI_2gGb4H6uBFs4eNehAc9q5bNud-8=w840-h630-no)

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ac6NVblwIoSN2KN9kB1aMMp87EVnMrKNK4nzUwI2Ku3t=w879-h630-no)

New beers via BIL visit last weekend.

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ggaGi_ACaF5gW5gxhRfd2cR8iNhlrA0iIznHeHVP9AQ4=w840-h630-no)

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/z8YGku-Y6ytnxhvaEZPwg3lZw09Or2UlgI_-ODyhDOUN=w840-h630-no)

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YolA4ost8VC5__6OZUnhoEIg7ExIDg6J6HItxXpDlLBI=w840-h630-no)

Perhaps the sorriest corn field. Ever.

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gxznd7BfSR-l6ev3bJ51vUeSjuAOCBSLuTCtwzQO4tYI=w840-h630-no)

I wondered who was camped out in the usual spot just upstream.  Bossman arrived after me. I tricked his ride out.

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/73l6oeyIvS2g7jHfv7yeB5rHJzWt13bDI4Dy8-krDxAt=w840-h630-no)

Thanks for the swag, WB.

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JnCzyPnAHyLl0-yVyJO0YK2a5nQ49PRBYZACsnQ_37UU=w840-h630-no)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 10, 2015, 16:29:16 pm
Glad you got out. Good shit.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on July 10, 2015, 16:52:21 pm
Good on ya  doug..... did your lady friend not wanna take another tour?  #wheresmynewstickersbrah
Title: Re: Smith-Continued Hot Friday Edition
Post by: driver on July 10, 2015, 16:54:33 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on July 10, 2015, 15:34:30 pm


Small fish were caught, a nice fish was lost at the net, it was hotter that two rats fucking in a wool sock, and blah, blah, blah.




I prefer, "Hotter than a half fucked fox in a forest fire"

I was hoping to go there this weekend.. Gotta go to DC instead.. b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Da Heisenberg on July 10, 2015, 18:15:50 pm
Nice. I'm liking that wonderod. It looks brand new. I have my dad's. It does not look brand new. There is something about vintage glass.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 10, 2015, 18:32:29 pm
Quote from: the_sculpinator on July 10, 2015, 18:15:50 pm
Nice. I'm liking that wonderod. It looks brand new. I have my dad's. It does not look brand new. There is something about vintage glass.


Failing at reading comprehension, newb. Berkley, not Shakespeare. 70's.
I do have many Wonderods, though.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Da Heisenberg on July 10, 2015, 18:36:03 pm
Lol, that makes sense. My wonderod is a translucent puke green; but I swear I have seen white ones on eBay.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on July 10, 2015, 19:05:33 pm
Quoteit was hotter that two rats fucking in a wool sock,


Uh, serves you right for sticking your wanker in some low altitude touron tailwater n!n  Were you wearing waders ?:P
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 10, 2015, 19:06:45 pm


I've been working and wankin in a cube on the 14th floor of the concrete bunker for the last month. The project is nearing completion, so when they said no work to be done on Friday, I headed up the road for some trout time. Two peckerheads were in the parking lot when I arrived, so I tagged 'em with a sticker! Walked across the field, hotter than a half-fucked fox in a forest fire!  <-;: Got to my spot and dumped my vest and tried to cool off in the muggy shade. Some dude was standing in the tail of my pool. I moved on up and whacked a few before low holing him. The fish stopped rising for a while and I moved around a bit before approaching the pool from a different angle. That angle proved to be effective and I caught fish after fish while standing balls deep in the cold water.  Smith on fire.... at least for a little bit. Left the river around two, just before the water arrived.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015a-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071015-10.jpg)


https://vimeo.com/133195535 (https://vimeo.com/133195535)


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 10, 2015, 20:05:05 pm
He arrived before me. That dude lost his fly box and was working his way down to find it. 
His box floated almost to me in my honey hole and got hung up just upstream. I retrieved it.
And we fished unwittingly towards each other for the exchange. 
He was a happy guy. His ties were awesome. 
Got a few reward flies. V:;

Reminded me to put my name and # on ALL my boxes.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 10, 2015, 20:19:46 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on July 10, 2015, 20:05:05 pm
That dude lost his fly box and was working his way down to find it. 
His ties were awesome. 
Got a few reward flies. V:;


Might be nice ties, but he wasn't catching too many of dem smiff brownz -- he complained about losing $300 worth of flies as he headed on down. Good on you for collecting 'em...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 10, 2015, 20:33:28 pm
Nobody tops the Bugger.  bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on July 10, 2015, 20:39:45 pm
Hey Doug, where is my list of poisons for the war this weekend?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 10, 2015, 20:59:09 pm
Oh shit.  b'; PM.
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 11, 2015, 22:51:27 pm


Had some time to kill, went back for more Pune punishment. This time I brought some beerz.

Ran into a couple of fellows from Roanoke, they knew of Mundflap and the younger one told me how Muddy had given him a fly on the Smith and told him "not to leave it in his fly box" so he was fishing that fly, a comparadun he also had some luck with beetles.


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-1.jpg)

As I'm taking to this fellow as he's munching on a sandwich, he says that his best fish of the day was 13 and a half inches. Pretty accurate for a streamside measureguesstimate.  So, I show him the above picture of the 12" (maybe twelve and a half) brown that I had just caught. He was amazed and said, "Wow, what a beautiful fish, that's a great brown." which left me to believe his measurement must have be in dick inches.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-6.jpg)

Some visitors on the river...

https://vimeo.com/133274800 (https://vimeo.com/133274800)

Things slowed way down after 4 o'clock. Couldn't get a trout to rise, so I did a little streamside meditation and drank a beer or two.
Around seven, the other fishermen left the stream and shortly later, more bugs started popping off, sulfurs, bwos, and a few yellow drakes. I don't remember the sulfur hatch lasting this late in the year and was a bit puzzled by bwos. The bugs were collecting in some of the back eddies and the trouts began munching on the surface once again. It was a great way to end the day. 

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/7/071115-9.jpg)



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 12, 2015, 06:56:03 am
Phone or camera you're doing good Woolly.  ---  I remember way back when I first started posting about the Smith you told me there were no fish there and I should drive 100 miles more to the Holston :o.  Bigger fish maybe, but it will be awhile yet before we have to "take a number" to get a spot to fish our favorite run.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 12, 2015, 11:02:46 am
@Al, if you read the unedited report with all of the autocorrect words you would understand what I meant by "should not post from phone"

All good now, I hope.... I half expect to run into you up there...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 12, 2015, 11:24:37 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on July 12, 2015, 11:02:46 am
@Al, if you read the unedited report with all of the autocorrect words you would understand what I meant by "should not post from phone"

All good now, I hope.... I half expect to run into you up there...


Hope to head up on Thursday.  Going to see if any of those we sampled a couple weeks ago will fall for a bigger version of the Allieworm. :o  If not I have a couple other secrets in my arsenal.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 12, 2015, 19:57:16 pm
Looking good Woolly. I had a couple kayakers come by me the last time I hit that river.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 19, 2015, 16:29:36 pm


Pull up a chair. Get a beverage. Hey, I'm buying.
Now let Uncle Dougfish tell you a story. A life lesson really.
You wanna fish a tailwater river? Well, you see, they have theses websites and phone numbers you can use to see when they do and when they don't let biblical amounts of water out into the river downstream. Do as I say, not as I do. CALL THE FUCKING NUMBER!

I knew they were going to do some "mini" releases for the paddle folks on the weekends. Hell, they did it two weeks ago, I checked.
Today? No check. I get there at a few minutes before 8, suit up and head for the river. There is one vehicle in the lot w/NC tags. I head downstream looking for him(s) and locate him above the trestle pool.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DD5z-TK-ZH2DCv5bv9TejsysDbl__tv3BRB77D14mbP9=w840-h630-no)

I am sneaking by and he spots me. Turns out to be the fellow I fished with back in May. (We had a slooow day then, bad omen)
I headed down further and tied on the winner. Three casts, fish. 103 casts later, another small fish. 303 casts later (and fourteen fly changes) another small fish. I lost track of the dude around the bend. Waded in to take a piss and left my shit on a big rock. Finished my bidnesss, turned around and thought "The water is coming up?". I gathered my shit, pulled out a sammie and brew and headed upstream. Fuck, it really is coming up. I get up to where I can see him about 100 yds. upstream and standing in waist deep water. I yelled, he heard, and with deft hand signals I advised him to get the fuck out of the river. We hit the tracks back to the cars. 6 dinks between us. Dial the number, 10-2 releases, Sat. and Sun.  Fuck me.

He went home, I headed down below Bassett to take some more lashes. Missed a couple, then broke off the would-be brownie of the summer.
Guess who forgot to cut off his 6x.  b';
Drank a couple of solace beers and headed home.
At least I have bodacious leftovers for dinner.

Flowers and reptile. That's all I got.

Phlox

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rNEOQvKPpJSrCfxXFTaqjcJAyfKvuHmpQukednpUcWOT=w840-h630-no)

Bearsfoot

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gDEOJOAYOs5A8NLGer4hsRAvEp0uxM3swdlCuukylAhn=w840-h630-no)

Trumpetvine

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wGeY5WfPjk-Tg1EKpTkYILaJbUdXhVYfFdVhIA0sM-TK=w840-h630-no)

Turtle of the box. Orange version.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bDfqlrjUo-Ho_za9WYG37CUfkjDG_q-Qq36O-nUwWg91=w840-h630-no)

Tools, '50's vintage

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZceP_Wyt5WX1FU7Z4GmvZkziO6JQE_xMFgeSsr004-Ve=w473-h630-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jqqssUrV3m6huKKSvW_M-HrbT5IQdjtbUzrQe_XOgn7Y=w473-h630-no)

Fuck me.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 19, 2015, 20:35:10 pm
Sweet. At least you, and the other dude didn't have to swim.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 19, 2015, 20:44:17 pm
You shoulda swung a streamer in that rec flow, jis say'in
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on July 19, 2015, 20:57:28 pm
Me and Franzen went up Sat. We got there about 8am. I had to leave early to go to a horrible party. So we were off the water by 2pm. Not a banner day but we held our own. We did notice the water pulse as well. We were able to avoid it. Will be calling the number myself before next time.

New Toy
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/06Qpquojc1bgZCJXv4fW21bgcMiXSjaSDoQvtfrLNAA=w640-h480-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RgqmvYEhoJVZdUIQ3Bg5ZlSSe8B6PLwYN4C5KefKxrk=w640-h480-no)

Anyone ID this. Either wolf or fishing spider
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OHfOFhAXVsce5f7yqqB8ga-H_woUcwZGVQAygiL5LpU=w640-h480-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HcsmzyiIuuYhNm9PwXfXYvDiBr8xQPknyi4JteNWa3k=w640-h480-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ahl5MxYKMZ2HpESo3wZ8dh-iZXabwykHg4Yi2ue6RQU=w640-h480-no)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 19, 2015, 21:04:25 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on July 19, 2015, 20:44:17 pm
You shoulda swung a streamer in that rec flow, jis say'in


Thought about it. But, I had a bitchy attitude.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 19, 2015, 21:36:07 pm
That there is a "Big assed brown spider"
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 19, 2015, 21:43:48 pm
Nice fish, Driver. Well done.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ptfranze on July 19, 2015, 22:51:39 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on July 19, 2015, 21:36:07 pm
That there is a "Big assed brown spider"


Thanks for that spot on ID woolly.  I was heading over and he was in my way, I went and told Jason there is a god damned tarantula on this tree.  It was not scared of us at all even let Jason pick up one of its legs with a stick before it finally moved and ran away
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on July 20, 2015, 08:37:15 am
How'd that two hander do for ya? Flinging meat w it? I wants one
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on July 20, 2015, 08:54:20 am
what two hander did you get?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on July 20, 2015, 17:06:58 pm
Its a Cabelas TLR 11ft 6wt. Picked it up for $50.
Actually it was a pain in the ass. I didn't have a switch line on it so that didn't help. And that reel weighs a ton. So my arm would get tired from high sticking. New line should be here soon and I'll put it on a different reel and we'll see how its does.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: CaddisMan on July 22, 2015, 07:51:28 am
Greetings to the Smith-continued regulars. Hope everyone is keeping cool from summer heat by enjoying the Smith as regular as possible. Me... well I get up from Raleigh occasionally for a day trip fix when I can't string together a few days for the NC Blue Ridge.

I came up yesterday arriving at dawn up at the dam. I fished several points from the dam to down say a quarter of a mile. I DIDN'T SEE A SINGLE FISH! ...staying until 10 am casting nymphs and dry droppers along the far bank. If they were there, they were hunkered to within 5 feet of the bank.  The mist wast heavy and the water around 48F had me shivering... in July?!... an odd experience. 

Anyway, moved down to Basset... same deal. Finally  located a few rising down Fieldale way around noon but difficult wading prevented me presenting them properly. Did manage one nine inch brown on a hopper 20 minutes before I had to bug out to ward off the skunk.

In the 7 or so trips I have made to the Smith over the last couple of years, I've never seen less fish-sign than yesterday. I was wondering if the regulars could provide some insight on the above. So my gas money will be better spent next time.

For the beer lovers, ya'll give White Street Brewing a try. They are out of Wake Forest, NC and make a delicious Kolsch and the Hoptimist IPA may be the best this side of Asheville.  Any recommended local beers I should track down next time I'm up your way?

Best, guys and thanks,
CaddisMan

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 22, 2015, 08:24:19 am
Snort.

From SRTU website, reporting on annual VDGIF sampling:

"Following comments are from Philpott to Martinsville Dam:
* they samples 8 sites above the Martinsville dam. All together, they totaled about 8000 feet of river sampled.
*2300 fish were collected. 70% were Brown Trout, 2 % were Rainbows, 13% Darters, 5.5% Chub. and the other 9.5% were other baitfish,    bass, sunfish, etc. They estimate that they only collect about half of the fish in the sampled areas using the barge technique employed on the   upper river.
*They have collected an average of 11 trout/10 meters over the last ten years. Last five years have trended higher.
*The average fish size above Martinsville dam was 8.3″. This is also trending higher.
*Higher numbers of trout were collected from the Mirror Plant to the Philpott Dam. Numbers collected fell of dramatically below Bassett. But baitfish numbers were reversed. The waters below Bassett become harder to sample and the sampled areas were smaller, but is something else going on?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: CaddisMan on July 22, 2015, 13:57:21 pm
Just to be clear, not meaning to dis the fishery or suggest dwindling trout population. Just wondering if there was something about time of year, time of day, conditions, or something related to water release that had them hunkered down.  Hell, maybe I just got lucky the other half dozen or so trips. The Smith just seemed uncharacteristically stingy yesterday. But no worries, as the governator says, 'I'll be bach'...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on July 22, 2015, 13:59:11 pm
It's the Smith... when its on, its on. When its off.. you won't catch jack
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 22, 2015, 14:22:42 pm
Quote from: driver on July 22, 2015, 13:59:11 pm
It's the Smith... when its on, its on. When its off.. you won't catch jack


This.^

My post was meant to show that there are gobs of fish. You may not see them, but they see you. They are there.
And when they turn off......
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Aka on July 22, 2015, 14:27:31 pm
Quit being a dick, Doug. Tell us how to catch fish on the Smith.








jk  ;D

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 22, 2015, 15:08:05 pm
Twenty years ago, when I started fly fishing, I could hardly catch a fish in the Smith, things haven't changed much over the years ;-)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on July 22, 2015, 17:07:53 pm
The river can be a fickle bitch - especially when the sun is up high and nothing is hatching.

This time of year it's all about the beetle and fishing early or late. Beetles on the bank early AM with mist on the river is super fun.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 02, 2015, 15:29:57 pm
Good report and great photos.  Did you see what I meant about not wading when they are generating full bore?

How about the kayak hatch - any of that going on?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 02, 2015, 17:58:28 pm


Despite the rec release, I went up to fish with the fanatic. We did have to spend some time counting kayaks and wait for the water to fall.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/8/080115-1.jpg)
Brian standing in the stiff current swinging flies.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/8/080115-2.jpg)
While I had eight strikes on the streamer, they failed to hook themselves.
So I played around with the camera settings.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/8/080115-3.jpg)
still waiting for the hatch to take off.


(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/8/080115-4.jpg)
One skunk remover!



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beauty shot...





Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 02, 2015, 20:34:47 pm
I know a lot of you wonder about what keeps pulling Woolly and the rest of us back to the Smith. Wonder no longer. Here is your chance to see that the "Smiff", as TF and several others call it, does indeed hold more brown trout then most streams within easy driving distance. The fish are there but they are not easy pickings like on "bluelines" or delayed harvest streams. Pay your dues, learn what works and what doesn't and you can puff out your chest and likely catch trout anywhere. For sure it will make you a better fisherman.

Don't forget it also holds a lot of Rainbows during stocking season.



VDGIF will conduct their annual multi-location sampling of the Smith River Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, August 11-13. This is a wading sample and requires a large crew. Volunteers are always appreciated. If you don't feel comfortable wading there are several land based tasks you can assist with. You're also welcome to just come by to observe - VDGIF Biologists welcome your questions.

Here is the projected schedule -  GPS locations are close to the actual locations.

Day 1:  August 11, 2015

1.      Meet at sampling site at 10 AM,  Yellow Stairs 36 47' 38" N by 80 01' 03 " W  (This is up the road going to the base of the dam - just before road turns to gravel)

2.      Travel to next sampling site (lunch)  Bassett Library 36 45' 45" N by 79 59' 45" W

3.      Travel to next sampling site,  Shady view Road 36 44' 15" N by 79 56' 24" W  (Site of the old church at dead end road on downstream side of 220 Bypass)


Day 2: August 12, 2015

1.      Meet at sampling site 9:00 AM, Bassett Mirror Plant 36 47' 14" N by 79 59" 51" W  (travel to the back side of the plant, through the field to the far left corner to the sampling site) sample and then have lunch (this will be a 3-pass depletion - During the 2014 sample we moved the fish collected from this site to below MV Dam so it will be interesting to see if this site replenished itself)

2.      Travel to next sampling site, Derelict Bridge 36 44' 15" N by 79 57' 26" W (Stanleytown Bridge - near CVS)

4.      Travel to next sampling site, Sewage Plant     36 41' 35" N by 79 55' 32" W


Day 3: August 13, 2015

1.      Meet at sampling site 9:00 AM, Dam site  36 47' 37" N by 80 01' 34" W  (same road as Yellow Stairs - this site is just before big pool called Lemon's Hole - steep concrete steps to small cabin on right of road/stream - During the 2014 sample we also moved the fish collected from this site to below MV Dam so it will be interesting to see if this site replenished itself)

Contact Al Kittredge email aakitt@earthlink.net or cell phone 910-624-3457 for up-to-date information as to time and location. 



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 02, 2015, 20:52:49 pm
You boys done good!  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on August 02, 2015, 21:10:42 pm
You've represented the Smith very well there, Brian.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on August 03, 2015, 08:00:43 am
Those are some nice, solid fish, especially for this time of year.  y;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 31, 2015, 15:55:20 pm
Fished it Saturday afternoon for a little bit and Sunday morning for an hour or so.  Not a lot of fish, but they were decent sized for the upper Smith.

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/Smith-8-30-15%20006_zps0t8iinuj.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/Smith-8-30-15%20006_zps0t8iinuj.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/Smith-8-30-15%20001_zps4lipo6ah.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/Smith-8-30-15%20001_zps4lipo6ah.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/Smith-8-30-15%20005_zpsmn8sn7g6.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/Smith-8-30-15%20005_zpsmn8sn7g6.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/Smith-8-30-15%20004_zpskaj8hnzp.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/Smith-8-30-15%20004_zpskaj8hnzp.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/Smith-8-30-15%20003_zpssey6hhqn.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/Smith-8-30-15%20003_zpssey6hhqn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 31, 2015, 16:11:18 pm
Nice catching, Ben! Hope the generations did not mess you up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 31, 2015, 16:18:13 pm
Beetle boy bags big browns, nice going
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 31, 2015, 17:29:24 pm
Nice going Ben  'c; 'c; 'c;

I was there for a little fishing on Friday and Saturday - did it below the other dam.  Still have not figured how to catch them big ones but did catch several of the ones we fin clipped during the recent sampling.  They looked healthy so no worse for wear from being transported.  Also caught several 4-5 inch fingerlings which were likely some of the 1200 they stocked down there in early spring.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 02, 2015, 16:16:44 pm
Doug, the generation was a pain to fish around.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on September 02, 2015, 17:09:12 pm
Quote from: 5xTippett on September 02, 2015, 16:16:44 pm
Doug, the generation was a pain to fish around when you sleep in and don't get on the water until 10:30 or later in the morning.


Fixed  ;D

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 08, 2015, 11:15:25 am


As ya'll know they broke the generator(s) at the Philpott dam, so with no generation rec generation scheduled for Saturday I hit the river for a couple of hours...

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/9/090415-1.jpg)
Train Wrecker Mushrooms (Edible???)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/9/090415-2.jpg)

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(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/9/090415-9.jpg)

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Doug will know what this is???

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Fall's coming!

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(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015/9/090415-13.jpg)

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Not the lowest in VA but mo better than NC prices!

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on September 08, 2015, 14:03:45 pm
Great pics, nice browns! The mystery plant is developing seedheads of Clematis virginiana, virgin's bower.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on September 08, 2015, 14:09:40 pm
Is anyone culling those little pan fryers? I need to do some technical dry fishing soon...nm I'll prolly just chuck dishrags at trannys gars
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 08, 2015, 14:16:53 pm
Better call, they are going to dump all the water they've been saving up starting Friday if not Thursday....

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 08, 2015, 15:36:20 pm
I dunno if they are going to generate on Saturday, might save it till Monday, jus call on Friday to be sure
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 08, 2015, 20:33:10 pm
 'c;
Definitely call.

$1.93 at Basset Flats last week.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on September 08, 2015, 21:48:50 pm
Filled up for $1.84 last week in Lynchburg.   -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 20, 2015, 15:26:45 pm


forgot the camera
used the gopro
caught a major hatch
lunch was the highlight
shoulda stayed home and tied flies


http://vimeo.com/139852594 (http://vimeo.com/139852594)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2015//9/091915-1.jpg)


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: JWJ on September 21, 2015, 10:05:36 am
Nice Woolly. Making me home sick.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 21, 2015, 15:13:29 pm
Fished a couple of hours Saturday afternoon and a couple of hours Sunday morning.  It was nothing special but I did catch one pushing 15 inches Saturday afternoon.

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/Smith-%209-19%2020%202015%20002_zpsvdl37e4k.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/Smith-%209-19%2020%202015%20002_zpsvdl37e4k.jpg.html)


(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/Smith-%209-19%2020%202015%20003_zpsdbfxuggt.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/Smith-%209-19%2020%202015%20003_zpsdbfxuggt.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/Smith-%209-19%2020%202015%20005_zpsxowvg7ru.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/Smith-%209-19%2020%202015%20005_zpsxowvg7ru.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 21, 2015, 20:52:50 pm
Go Ben!  'c;
I might fish the bitch next week. I'm overdue.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 22, 2015, 15:47:33 pm
if they fix that damn dam and get some regular flows going I may fish it again

Thurs and Friday of this week are suppose to be 12am - 7am and 6pm - 12pm, sending lots of cold water down river.  d:b

That schedule looks like this..   V:;
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 24, 2015, 14:42:33 pm


Too damn nice not to go fishing


first cast caught a dink
drank some beers
bakers dozen
fished till dark


https://vimeo.com/140338336


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on September 24, 2015, 18:38:14 pm
So you drank a bakers dozen of beers!!  <-;: And caught some dinks!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on September 24, 2015, 20:57:07 pm
Video was gay...vett brothers.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: BRFFF on September 24, 2015, 21:18:45 pm

Quote from: driver on September 24, 2015, 18:38:14 pm
So you drank a bakers dozen of beers!!  <-;: And caught some dinks!!


Pretty much
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on September 25, 2015, 06:08:32 am
kill'n me man, kill'n me /'/
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: BRFFF on September 25, 2015, 09:27:02 am
Quote from: DRIFTS on September 25, 2015, 06:08:32 am
kill'n me man, kill'n me /'/


Well they're back to generating so a lower river float is possible
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 26, 2015, 13:25:53 pm
Quote from: RiverbumCO on September 24, 2015, 20:57:07 pm
Video was gay...vett brothers.


I had not even look at that, now 17 page, post...  p;-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 15, 2016, 11:28:07 am


While daydreaming at the office, I thought I'd run up to the Smith and see
if I could steal some of Doug's beers, but he was missing in action, so I tied
on an ultrasmall black slumpbuster and hit the river while the water was down.
Might shoulda changed over to nymphing, but refused  'c;
I may have arrived a tad to late and missed the falling water bite, but I still
caught a few pune brows, and a stocker rainbow, which, by the way, is the first
bow that I've caught in this section. Almost threw it up on the bank. Maybe they'll
keep the water off on the weekend and we can get a whole day up there

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/01/011416-4.jpg)

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(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/01/011416-14.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/01/011416-15.jpg)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: revfox on January 15, 2016, 21:51:54 pm
This is beautiful. I'm so ready to get back up there. My first and only trip was successful and hopefully the water subsiding will correlate with my work schedule some day.

Thx for sharing Wooly
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on January 15, 2016, 22:33:07 pm
W.B. - Glad you got to hit it. I know you been missin' that river. So, we can still fish it while not generating as usual, but there's just not much time that they're not generating.....correct?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 15, 2016, 22:43:42 pm
That's it, it's always a bitch in the winter, and with the crazy generation schedule, you got to ask yourself is it worth the drive for a couple of hours
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 15, 2016, 22:47:43 pm


After months of work,  broken generators and high water, I finally got on the Smiff for 2 whole hours. In the cold rain.
Bammer messaged me and we met up and got to work. Streamers were the choice of the day.
We caught the water on it's last 6 inches of fall and started in. I had one roll on the fly on the second cast, a tug on the 4th and 5th cast and a decent fish on the 7th.

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After that, we grinded on with little success. Bama had some bumps, I rolled a couple more and had some more tugs. One small fish with a big appetite was my only other catch. We had a scotch break and climbed out as the water rose again. Try, try again.

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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XIizm-CC5fypb-3n42-P8Th7ZsS71GzjCvxPCYqaROgPL_1654e8O2oJ76fITALd1aKb_4AKud8jSNglCpJrYRpapRMxFKJcpryDgqRLNNCoLUcozaAZwpGw_ATra5WZ9dT075CZzI9gVwehCnVAl_LzLkxUZd3aWqkmCzBD7I9dOxGTbY0ph8mEfyTxwInHu5Bz4UnOn_INpC96F1z0538-fxpnvnwbdIxRavouTDWWGz82yMYoVE1XCZT1qDZbgIc8X8Nus5XcDxpGadk1gYXCbTlQoeN01FLk0XDMPXSD2p2fEP8RzvDWyzH0moXAKAUOefVsdrsrURzqe8ZXHC_2Kl44dHinOFQ2oCd8mFzHLFTTas4FFIFx0hn0nc-aTaSsV35YhsJw8rvxQTKMw6L0wQ4FPT22eKqewKoq5jsjRRR8xNhHuZCUROzY7OFFoAJ3z5w8xLF7h05pWVk_gFNcgnKE7QUPPN5TVcNLO-_IjvHqQFoY397LTU8jQi0QKM9eGnrQNCGjSH2HxSDJqp87vCjLt-FpaKqDeeZKYt-9aZEW3mJucLJbVjnNjdZZDsUgTA=w814-h610-no)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 15, 2016, 22:51:54 pm
Awe heck, I woulda drove on up for some Scotch!
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on January 15, 2016, 23:21:10 pm
WB - I've done far worse than a little drive to scratch the itch.

Dougfresh - Nicely done.

Who's Bammer? The new dude? No fishes for him?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bamafisher on January 16, 2016, 07:12:21 am
Yeah, got my skunk on. First time in a while, left a bitter taste but the scotch helped with that
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on January 16, 2016, 07:49:47 am
I enjoy that river. It could be more scenic, that's for sure, but I like the challenge. At least you have to actually fish there instead of just throwing any random fly into a small creek and having the natives go to town on it (I enjoy this as well). I haven't been skunked there yet, but maybe I'm jinxing myself now. In my opinion, those bigger waters, with more pressure, and more water to contend with, will make you a better fisherman, and that's what I'm shooting for nowadays.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 16, 2016, 09:24:56 am

Quote from: wademaster on January 16, 2016, 07:49:47 am
It could be more scenic.


That's why I like the old special regs section, not a fan of fishing in town (Bassett) even though good fish are caught through there.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on January 16, 2016, 10:03:10 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on January 16, 2016, 09:24:56 am

Quote from: wademaster on January 16, 2016, 07:49:47 am
It could be more scenic.


That's why I like the old special regs section, not a fan of fishing in town (Bassett) even though good fish are caught through there.


Indeed. I need to spend a little more time down that way.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 07, 2016, 08:13:01 am


Maneuvered around the generation.
Slung big stuff with old glass on old and new stretches.
Hung with some Carolina guys.
Drank.
Enjoyed a black caddis hatch.
And stuck a few meh fish.


(http://i.imgur.com/5QwCpXS.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tYdOAwl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1tZtoBy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vKRC5dp.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/f1FmpPl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/e8p0b0C.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lBXHQzU.jpg)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ptfranze on March 07, 2016, 10:38:12 am

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/ptfranze/F79208DA-02B7-4174-B80C-FD0FCAC3F7AB_zps21d1rcdn.jpg) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/ptfranze/media/F79208DA-02B7-4174-B80C-FD0FCAC3F7AB_zps21d1rcdn.jpg.html)

These guys were coming off the water like crazy yesterday but only saw one fish rise about 3 times.  A little disappointing but fun to see the hatch.

Best fish of the day caught  a couple others smaller than this

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/ptfranze/CB0AE64E-1579-4E14-A182-741AD017B151_zpsdcuw83t1.jpg) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/ptfranze/media/CB0AE64E-1579-4E14-A182-741AD017B151_zpsdcuw83t1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 07, 2016, 10:53:58 am
Woolly has all my pics hopefully he can compel Satan out of my SD card
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 07, 2016, 12:27:36 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on March 07, 2016, 10:53:58 am
Woolly has all my pics hopefully he can compel Satan out of my SD card


all yer chit is uploaded to google driver, i sent a link to yer email... <-;:

i'm convinced that operator error was involved in your problems....

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: JWJ on March 07, 2016, 13:37:17 pm
The Smith, finally able to get a little love. Nice work.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 07, 2016, 13:48:27 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 07, 2016, 12:27:36 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on March 07, 2016, 10:53:58 am
Woolly has all my pics hopefully he can compel Satan out of my SD card


all yer chit is uploaded to google driver, i sent a link to yer email... <-;:

i'm convinced that operator error was involved in your problems....

Keep talking that shit old man.....u jelly
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 02, 2016, 09:44:35 am

2016-27

https://youtu.be/nxFJ44gPE3M (https://youtu.be/nxFJ44gPE3M)

With news of a fire at the Philpott dam and a weekday minimum flow, I took off and hit the old special regs section hoping for a sulfur hatch and some dry fly action. Another angler, a local TU member who knows Al, but who's name I've forgotten, had the same idea to take advantage of the break in generation.  We found black caddis working in the riffles, but the fish weren't rising.  The old timer, was doing well with a soft hackle pheasant tail by using a twitch retrieve, "They can't stand it," he in formed my when I asked about his fly and method. I sat down and drank a beer and watched for risers. When they hit the surface I was ready and in quick order brought three to hand. Then the water began to rise and I headed out.
Since I left the Oly TG at home I tried to use the iPhone and GoPro to capture the events of the day.

https://vimeo.com/161287620 (https://vimeo.com/161287620)

Rotating the GoPro, I captured an interesting perspective of catch and release, but tried to "fix it in post."

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/03/033016-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/03/033016-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/03/033016-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/03/033016-9.jpg)

Now that they restored power to the sluice gates and are dumping 500+ cfs, I'll need to get a boat to fish that bitch!

I sure hope the fish like the steady high flow!






Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 19, 2016, 22:44:58 pm


The COE dropped the sluice down to 100-150 cfs about 5 this afternoon. I could not stay away. Neither could Woowie. Since la grand sluicing will pick up again about 5 pm Friday, this could be the last evening sulfur hatch to be fished for the year.
And it was.........not epic. Very meh. But the little fish were turned on and full of spunk. So we caught them. A pune-a-rama for 2 1/2 hours until it was too dark to tie on a fly.

I was down a little early to do some work. After that I suited up and watched the water. Fish were rising at 500 cfs. Encouraging.

(http://i.imgur.com/tc6x91C.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/O3NyhVN.jpg)

And I watched the water some more.

(http://i.imgur.com/uhGEhZw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QuspJGl.jpg)

Finally, I decided it was starting to recede. Waded in, looked up river and the bossman was ready to step in, too.
Three quick fish. Then the switch was off. That's the way it was all the way through.

(http://i.imgur.com/aIZXrSc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RF5GsEC.jpg)

Realized I was still thirsty, so I waded in, grabbed my pack and little cooler bag and walked up stream to the master.
It's going to be another stellar corn crop.

(http://i.imgur.com/Rpmdtjy.jpg)

We drank a few beers, bullshitted about the rest of you assholes, caught some fish and enjoyed the beautiful river.

(http://i.imgur.com/iNzXYv3.jpg)

And then we stumbled out and hit the road. He south, me north. 9:00 pm. 
0:0 to the Smiff.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on May 20, 2016, 09:09:05 am
I respect the commitment you guys make with that flow. Righteous.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 20, 2016, 09:41:30 am
Quote from: Dee-Vo on May 20, 2016, 09:09:05 am
I respect the commitment you guys make with that flow. Righteous.

I has its appeal, and the sulfur hatch is one of them!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on May 20, 2016, 09:51:34 am
I've enjoyed it the few times I've fished it. Personally, I think if you can catch fish there, you can catch fish most places. The challenge is what I like about the river.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 20, 2016, 14:27:50 pm



Only One Day to Wade


TU national is meeting in Roanoke this weekend and some of the local guys managed to convince the COE to cut the flow for Friday so those gathering at the meeting could experience the Smith in favorable conditions. So they cut the flow for 24 hours, starting at 5:00 PM Thursday evening, giving us the only opportunity this year to fish the evening sulfur hatch, which can be specular.  I got to the river just past 6:30 and caught the falling water. There were a few bugs sailing and it took a while to spy a rising fish. A few cast later and I watched my target miss my fly. I switched up patterns to give him a different look and bam! A nice, for the upper Smith, brown trout with hugs spots and a butter belly. Of course I had forgotten my camera, but I did attempt to use the GoPro, but the fish got away before I could get a shot. Worked on my technique and managed to video a few of the dozen trout that I caught. The hatch never really came on strong, but the fish showed interest in the few that were floating on down the feeding lanes. Pretty location, some good beer and conversation with a fellow fisherman.

https://vimeo.com/167463962


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 20, 2016, 19:48:46 pm
I got out today. Had an order for some skillet Rainbows from my better half so fished the lower river down through Bassett. Didn't take long to fill that order.  That gave me time to mow the lawn at my cabin before going back down for some catch and release fun.

BTW -  talked with three local fishermen who are ticked at the weekend releases. Urged them to make the June 9th meeting which will be last chance to weigh in.



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on May 21, 2016, 11:47:48 am
Git'n it

Keef what was the song in the vid.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 21, 2016, 22:30:42 pm
Quote from: RiverbumCO on May 21, 2016, 11:47:48 am
Git'n it

Keef what was the song in the vid.


Doc Watson, The Old Man Below off of the Home Again! album. I downloaded it off of Archive.org, but can't find that listing anymore....

Send PM if you want more info...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 08, 2016, 21:37:54 pm
I did a little work on the Sulfur Hatch hook set video from the other day, a little zoom and slo mo and music...  :banana011:  :banana026:  /'/  -0- -0-

Sadly I may have misplaced / lost the GoPro Hero 4 Silver... I thought I put it in the car when I went off to fish with B.R.A. but, despite tearing apart the car, I've not found it....

:embarassed: :banana072: b';

first run at normal, second 1/2 speed on the hook set, fish jumps...

http://vimeo.com/169947470
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 08, 2016, 22:40:57 pm
Ha, just found the bitch!!! -0- V:;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on June 08, 2016, 22:41:37 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on June 08, 2016, 22:40:57 pm
Ha, just found the bitch!!! -0- V:;

Dam. I was about to head down there and pick me up a new GoBro
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 14, 2016, 13:35:29 pm

2016-50,51
Now that the river is wadable and there are still some sulphurs around I headed up Sunday and Monday evenings. Forgot the TG-3, so strapped on the GoPro. Hiked in across the field, which felt like a desert in the heat of the afternoon. Fish were rising, might have done better with a soft hackle, but stuck with a dry fly. I relished the solitude of the quite evening, and watched the color of the water, was it blue, black, or golden yellow? Perhaps all of those colors and a million more all at the same time as it reflected the trees, sky and the clouds which were now tinted by the colors of the setting sun.

Sunday, two cars it the lot! Damn, crowds! Repeat of the day before. I fished on downstream, watched the two anglers come on up and behind me where they settled in to "see if we could learn anything" by watching me. Turns out it was Benny and his friend Roy(?) who have fished together for 30 years. They were glad to see the lower flows, but had told me that they had fished the higher flows too. Benny had wacked about 40 of the little peckerheads, he fishes a flymph, down and across and then stripping it in....

Looking at the video you would think this river would hold a lot of good sized trout. But it's running at six times it's normal flow as they continue to work of the dam. Here are a few pics and another video....

https://vimeo.com/170646390

Hottest day of the year so far...
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061216-1.jpg)

Typical pune...
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061216-2.jpg)

Fish till dusk...
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061216-3.jpg)

Go back the next day, if you can, just because it looks like this...
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061316-1.jpg)

Catching these diminutive beauties doesn't hurt...
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061316-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061316-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061316-4.jpg)


0:0



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 14, 2016, 13:43:44 pm
Hell yea, Woolly. I enjoyed the vid.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on June 14, 2016, 14:10:31 pm
Good stuff! Liked the vid, too. Those may be punes in the river, but would be solid fish in a smaller creek.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 14, 2016, 14:41:34 pm
Good stuff Woolly.  We are going to sample below MV on Wed and Thurs. I'll probably have some photos but may not post too many out here on public side. I will let everyone know what my impression is of the flows though.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 17, 2016, 20:56:35 pm
Quote from: Al on June 14, 2016, 14:41:34 pm
Good stuff Woolly.  We are going to sample below MV on Wed and Thurs. I'll probably have some photos but may not post too many out here on public side. I will let everyone know what my impression is of the flows though.


Flows are still too much for my taste - if you are in shallow water in areas where it is fairly wide you have no problem but you should be aware that the water is about a foot higher then normal all over so wading even in the easy spots is limited.

Here's the only photo you are going to get from me here in the public side from our recent samplinging
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 18, 2016, 12:06:08 pm


2016 - 52

i could go to the place a million times and never get tired of it...
i may even go back again today...

0:0

https://vimeo.com/171215157

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 18, 2016, 13:21:11 pm
Rock on, Mr. Smith.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: swervinmervin on June 18, 2016, 23:26:35 pm
Good work, Bossman.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 19, 2016, 07:03:17 am
I share your opinion of that place.

Nice... V:;  0:0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 19, 2016, 10:18:17 am


2016 - 53

While most of you fuckers were off catching bid azz carps on the surface, I had to settle for the smith river punes...  n!n  I was surprised that nobody else was fishing in this location. There were plenty of paddlers on the lower river thou. I see that DARBA now has a drone... WTF?  :;![/rant]

Having my morning coffee downtown, watching the world go by (yoga pants) and editing the video from yesterday, nothing else on the schedule. Some friends are chasing the cicada hatch, catching carp on the surface. I'm trying to get in on some of that action, but for the moment, I'm stuck on the local pune brown trout stream.

I made sure that I packed the camera today and left the gopro behind. Yeah!!

Inspiration
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816a-4.jpg)

Across the street for a snad and some beerz, oh yeah!
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816a-1.jpg)

Mosaic lives up to the promise!
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816a-2.jpg)

Twisted up a few streamside
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816a-3.jpg)

Keep 'em cool; water running at 46 degrees
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-1.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-2.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-4.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-5.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-6.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-8.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-9.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-10.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-11.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-12.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-13.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-14.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-15.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-16.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-17.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-18.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-19.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-20.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-21.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/06/061816-22.jpg)

I had intended to stay till half past dark, but the river just plain shut down after seven, and I was out of beer.

I wish the river would run at this level year round... I think that the river is wadable, tough in spots, but other places its really not a problem. I think it's 9 or 10 inches above the normal low flow.. I does however look like the diddymo is loving all the cool water and the rock snot is covering up the rocks. I don't know if this has any impact on the bugs or not.




Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 19, 2016, 10:30:36 am
Most excellent carpage alternative.  -0-
That beer is too hoppy for me.  :o Slipped some into Aaaaron's cooler to rid myself of them.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: jwgnc on June 19, 2016, 11:36:08 am
 0:0  Thanks - I needed that
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on June 19, 2016, 11:39:06 am
More Smith goodness.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on June 20, 2016, 06:29:33 am
Good stuff!  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: rford on June 20, 2016, 08:18:15 am
Flows are still too much for my taste - if you are in shallow water in areas where it is fairly wide you have no problem but you should be aware that the water is about a foot higher then normal all over so wading even in the easy spots is limited.

I agree.  I tried it last week and had to use caution.  Wading upstream is tough.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 22, 2016, 16:28:45 pm
If anybody want to tag along on one of my jaunts, just holler, I'm kind of a pansy wader, so you shouldn't have a problem wading where I fish, jis say'in

I'll be back on the smith after the 4th of July!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 22, 2016, 16:34:01 pm
I'll be there when I'm done with the goldfish.  ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 13, 2016, 13:27:48 pm


2016 - 62

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/07/071216.jpg)
Sitting at the bar chatting with the server and getting nowhere, I decided that it was time for me to get back on the river. Headed up north with an eighth of a tank, hoping to get into some cheap Virginia gas. Filled up and picked up a sixer of NB citradelic, a snad and a powerball ticket. Lunch on the river = winning!

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/07/071216-1.jpg)
Back to the local and the unofficial greeting committee.  They had to dump some water, so the river hasn't been fishable for the last several week, now it's ratcheted down to where wading isn't a problem and I went to see what bugs would be showing up despite the forecast for afternoon thunder storms.  It was a hot and humid walk in waders, but the 48 degree water temps made them necessary.
Going old school, 4 wt RPL+ and the CFO

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/07/071216-2.jpg)

On the way in I spied a new crop of Train Wreckers, planned to harvest on the way out.
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/07/071216-3.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/07/071216-4.jpg)

After the hike it I popped a bottle and waded waist deep into the cold water, the dogs laid in the shallows. I sat and watched the water, while sharing my snad with my companions.
(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/07/071216-7.jpg)

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/07/071216-8.jpg)

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Just a few bugs on the water, and no fish rising, so for the fun of it I tied on a mutuka, but nobody was interested. Finally spied a few rising fish and switched to a dry.
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It was nice to catch these pune browns on a Tuesday afternoon as the sky darkened behind the ridge and thunder rumbled.
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A light rain began to fall but I didn't feel like I was getting any wetter as the humidity was at least 70%. Raindrops spotted the river but not enough to curtail dry fly activities. It lasted about an hour, then the sun came back out and I continued to fish.
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Taking a beer / photo beak from time to time. I only brought 4 beers with me, an attempt at self limits.
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The fog began to roll down the river and out of the mist paddlers appeared.
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There was a little sulfur hatch between 6 and 8 and I continued to catch the Smith River Punes.
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I opened the last Critridelic, took a healthy swig and stashed it in a vest pocket. Moving around and casting, to horrors the bottle fell into the river spewing precious beer into the river. It was ruined. So when the river shut down around 7:30 I bailed.

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Good to be back on the home waters, and as I post this at lunch, I'm thinking about skipping out and doing it again.

:banana026:

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 13, 2016, 18:20:02 pm
Good stuff!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 14, 2016, 07:25:09 am
 'c; 'c; 'c;
Hell yeah!
I almost came down yesterday. Went high instead.
Next week....... -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 14, 2016, 13:01:42 pm


2016 63

Finished up work at 2 o'clock, (well not actually finished, but enough done that I could put the rest off till today), and was up on the water 4:30. Checked the radar, looked good to me.

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Picked up a sixer in cans, I like cans, but this Blowing rock IPA actually blows and not in a good way. I had to force myself to drink the second, the third was tolerable, and the fourth tasted okay, I guess.  The shower had passed and the skies were clearing, but the fog on the river was thick.

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Shoulda stuck with the Citradelic, this swill was not good, IMHO

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shoulda stuck with Citridelic, but cans recycle and pack better!

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Forgot the TG-3, had to use the cell phone, only got one fish pic, a stocked rainbow, one of two caught last evening and only the 3rd that I've caught in the wild brown water. Landed about a ten pune, but colorful browns.

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The hatch was mixed with midges, sulfurs, and bwos. I tried 4 different patterns, in 3 sizes and got refused by more fish than I caught, I could get 'em to rise, just not to eat. So a big FU goes out to the fog and finicky fish tonight.
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 14, 2016, 13:08:23 pm
I only take sure thing beer when fishing. Often, the fish aren't a sure thing.  'c;  -+;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on July 14, 2016, 18:06:47 pm
Nice pics.  On tues, they were taking a little pheasant tail dropper better than the dun.  18.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 14, 2016, 18:34:46 pm
Nice. How long will the water be at normal levels?


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 14, 2016, 18:58:04 pm
I thought about tying on a trailer but was convinced I would get enough on the dry, the trouble was the fog as everything past 12 feet was pretty fuzzy


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 14, 2016, 20:58:05 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on July 14, 2016, 18:34:46 pm
Nice. How long will the water be at normal levels?
/quote]

The new normal? For the see able future. Fish on!
I'll be there next week.  V:;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on July 14, 2016, 21:16:15 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on July 14, 2016, 20:58:05 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on July 14, 2016, 18:34:46 pm
Nice. How long will the water be at normal levels?
/quote]

The new normal? For the see able future. Fish on!
I'll be there next week.  V:;


Gracias, amigo.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on July 14, 2016, 21:25:59 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on July 14, 2016, 18:34:46 pm
Nice. How long will the water be at normal levels?


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It is still quite high compared to normal July levels w/o generation.....
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 14, 2016, 21:46:53 pm
You youngsters might want to take a wading staff or wait for your balls to drop.

The wading isn't difficult at all especially compared to the waters in Montana, they would just laugh at the smith even at 400!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on July 23, 2016, 10:57:58 am
Sat 10 July 23 10 AM.  Looks like Philpott is letting some water go (now up to 530 CFS).  on the tape, no indication.  Maybe for canoe/kayaks?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 23, 2016, 11:11:30 am
Yes, Brian Williams has Orchestrated a photo op for today to show how many paddlers are using the river. Trying to get a crowd of paddlers passing behind historical society in Bassett. Expect you will see big write up complete with photos in newspaper tomorrow.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on July 23, 2016, 12:07:16 pm
Well shit.

Al you should have said something. We could have staged some shit too.

I know a 10 y/o who can turn the tears off and on at will. Imagine the media effect of a little girl who rode 160 miles to fish only to see a river too fast to wade.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 23, 2016, 12:21:51 pm
Fucker, I was going to go today
Glad I saw this!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 23, 2016, 12:29:51 pm
I only found out about it last evening. Think they kept it close hold until last minute.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on July 23, 2016, 12:32:39 pm
I got bored kids asking to fish.
Their PA trout smallmouth trip did not feed the need
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 23, 2016, 16:03:30 pm
Any idea how long its going to run at 500?


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on July 23, 2016, 16:07:00 pm
How does that guy have the COE in his pocket like that?


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on July 23, 2016, 16:12:31 pm
Quote from: IFStultz on July 23, 2016, 16:07:00 pm
How does that guy have the COE in his pocket like that?


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Call your congressman and complain.  Seems like to me that the Federal Government is assisting one sole proprietor instead of following their mission statement.  Today was Smith River Outfitters Grand Opening in Bassett.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on July 23, 2016, 16:22:34 pm
So he opened an actual shop? Probably gonna sell fishing gear too. We are all boycotting right?


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on July 23, 2016, 16:27:07 pm
Quote from: IFStultz on July 23, 2016, 16:22:34 pm
So he opened an actual shop? Probably gonna sell fishing gear too. We are all boycotting right?


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He's in that old gas station next to the post office.  At the corner of Fairystone Park Hwy and Bullocks Dr.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on July 23, 2016, 16:29:40 pm
Here:
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on July 23, 2016, 16:48:59 pm
Brilliant

That's some serious bullshit.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on July 23, 2016, 16:59:20 pm
Quote from: IFStultz on July 23, 2016, 16:22:34 pm
Probably gonna sell fishing gear too.


I hear he will have a full selection of powerbait and whole kernel corn.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on July 23, 2016, 17:18:39 pm
Quote from: VaTrout on July 23, 2016, 16:12:31 pm
Quote from: IFStultz on July 23, 2016, 16:07:00 pm
How does that guy have the COE in his pocket like that?

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Call your congressman and complain.  Seems like to me that the Federal Government is assisting one sole proprietor instead of following their mission statement.  Today was Smith River Outfitters Grand Opening in Bassett.


I absolutely have not problem with him opening a shop or running a canoe livery but if they use it as justification for weekend water on both days I have a problem with that.  Only time will tell but even the DRBA directors and folks who live in the area should be able to see behind that as well.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 23, 2016, 18:21:56 pm
Hottest day of the year below Martinsville dam

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on July 23, 2016, 18:27:35 pm
AW doesn't have a dog in this fight, but they've been fighting on the behalf of whitewater kayakers successfully for years.  TU could learn a few things from the AW.  The AW is always involved in hydro dam relicensing if it affects whitewater paddleing. At some point, Philpott will need to be relicensed by the FERC.  It may be worth it for TU to open a line of communication with these folk.  I believe if TU were to make a cogent case about the disruptive nature of the weekend releases, perhaps the FERC will consider the facts and force the dam operators to be more inclusive to potential beneficiaries of the dam.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on July 23, 2016, 19:41:06 pm
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I believe this part of the Yadkin holds trout.  A trib(Stony Fork) of the Yadkin that has a larger watershed w/lower altitude holds wild browns.  The trout at Stony Fork do not benefit from deep pools as they would at the Smith.  I doubt any die off will materialize.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on July 23, 2016, 19:49:51 pm
came thru there today and the river was full of boats from Pappa's  Pizza down river. Guess they got a lot of pictures for the grand opening and the newspaper articles. Guess the COE for sure has an asshole in its pocket.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on July 23, 2016, 19:59:11 pm
Ideally the guy will compromise on the weekend generation schedule and we won't have to hate each other. However up until this point it seems like he has friends in the right places and is using it for his own personal interest/ gain. We'll see. Maybe next year will be a drought year and the core will put the lake first and it won't matter.


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Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on July 23, 2016, 23:51:04 pm
Just a heads up if anyone had their fishing plans ruined by the increased flow today, I got in around 5:30 and the water came back down while I was floating so tomorrow should be good to wade. It was a bit stained but it'll probably clear up tomorrow.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on July 24, 2016, 08:46:39 am
I would pay good money to see Brian Williams as he reads these comments.  Bet you he calls up the redhead and she is yelling at you all through the computer screen.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 24, 2016, 11:35:59 am
Quote from: Big J on July 24, 2016, 08:46:39 am
I would pay good money to see Brian Williams as he reads these comments.  Bet you he calls up the redhead and she is yelling at you all through the computer screen.


You really think BW and Cricket look at this site?

If not, someone needs to have BW review his DRBA Staff bio.  If you search Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College in Tifton, Georgia, there is no mention on the availability of a degree in Wildlife Biology.

Remember, there's nothing nastier than a bag full of crickets. 


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 25, 2016, 10:46:07 am


2016 - 64

"Don't get old," that's what dad says all the time. He'll be 92 in a couple of weeks. The other morning, he got up and feeling a bit restless, went for a walk. On the way back he fell. Mom found him at 7:15 while looking out the kitchen window. He had been there for some time. 911, fire - rescue arrived shortly and dad was transported to the hospital with a broken elbow. Knocked the wind out of his sails. Two screws and a cable, put it back together again. A week later we moved him to a rehab facility to get him back up on his feet. So going, maybe he'll get to go home in a couple of weeks. I've been running shuttle, transporting mom and the grandkids. I finally took the afternoon off and went fishing.

Stopped in at the snad shop and the guy ask what's up, when I told him I was going fishing, he looked at me like I was crazy and replied, " In this heat?" "Gotta go when you can, and it'll be cool standing it the cold water," I explained. It was 95 with high humidity. Nobody else was at the parking, I geared up and toted the cooler down across the field to the river. The first third of the way was in the sun and miserable. As I turned the corner I came into the cooler shade, the late afternoon was low and cast a shadow from the river bank trees. A bit more sun and then I was down the bank and into the coolness of the river. I shucked the cooler, my vest and waded out balls deep to cool off some more with a left over beer.
Iced down, the blow IPA was half tolerable.

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Fished steamers for an hour, just a couple of blow ups, and when the sulfurs showed up I switched to dries. Caught a bunch of punes.

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And a few better fish too.

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The catching was pretty steady. The fog came off the river around 7 and got thicker as the evening wore on.

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Beer and snad break.

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Then back to catching...

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It was getting late, but I could still see the fly through the fog and creeping darkness

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This guy had a close encounter of the bird kind. Just before catching this fish I heard kayaks bumping their way down the river. As they passed behind me I commented that it was a nice way to cool off. There was no reply, strange, then I realized that they would be paddling in the dark as they had a ways to go to the take out....

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Last fish of the evening....

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Up the bank into the field for the walk back to the car. It was 85 at 9 PM.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on July 25, 2016, 16:34:57 pm
Nice.  :banana-fu:

I'll join you late next week.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 28, 2016, 17:59:46 pm


2016 - 65

With dad in rehab, I've been visiting two or three times a day, but lately I've been trying to get back into a more normal routine and I've been jonesing for form streamtime. I came up with a plan to pack in the stove, a frying pan and some cured bacon to cook up a brace of 9" brown trout streamside! The days have been brutally hot, so after stopping in for breakfast with pops, I headed over to the GFs to mow her lawn, and no that's not a euphuism like "filling the growler" has become. Small lawn only took 40 minutes and I was finished by 10 and the clouds had help keep the temps from climbing above 80. Still sweat poured down my back, there were four Little Sumpins (7.5% ABV) in the fridge and I downed two before hitting the shower. I worked until three and then headed up to the river. Just out of town I pulled into a Stop n Rob for ice and noticed I forgot the TG-3, almost turned back, the phone will have to do.  I got ready to hike to the river packing up all the gear and little cooler with the rest of the Lagunitas along with a Citradelic and a few random cans of IPA. But before I hit the trail, thunder boomed and the sky over the ridge lit up.  I waited for a bit and drank a beer, later a check of the radar indicated that there was a chance that the storm would stay to the north and miss the river. So I picked up and headed down to the river, I only got about 50 feet when BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, four lighting strikes so close that I jumped with each thunder clap. I went back to the car and drank another beer. Now confident that the worst was over I went out one more time and make it to the river in the now cool air. I waded out into the river and was tying on a dry fly, when it started to rain, I retreated to the bank, donned my rain jacked and opened another beer. I sat down on the bank and waited, waited about an hour and consumed another beer or two before the rain stopped. As soon at the raindrops stopped hitting the water fish began to rise. First cast brought a trout from four feet down up to smash the fly. Then I spotted another riser and got it a few cast later, this one was destined for the frying pan I told myself. I was stripping in line when a gaggle of Canada Geese took off and flew upstream, one of them catching my fly line and breaking off the fish. Motherfucker! I caught a few more punes, not quite pan sized, and then the river began to rise with the storm water coming in all muddy from a feeder creek and the fish turned off. I cooked the bacon and drank the last of the IPAs before heading out to Papa's Pizza and the drive home...

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10:00 AM beer after mowing the lawn

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I drove an hour and thirty minutes for this

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Waiting for the rain to stop

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 29, 2016, 14:31:14 pm
Fuck a goose
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on July 29, 2016, 16:24:06 pm
Good reminder to get duck stamp. Only a month away until total goose destruction.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 29, 2016, 16:35:07 pm
Quote from: driver on July 29, 2016, 16:24:06 pm
Good reminder to get duck stamp. Only a month away until total goose destruction.

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Fuck em up

VA has a 15/person limit for residential geese in Sept
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on July 29, 2016, 16:43:08 pm
Same as NC. Unplugged guns and electronic calls FTW
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on July 29, 2016, 16:45:28 pm
Quote from: driver on July 29, 2016, 16:43:08 pm
Same as NC. Unplugged guns and electronic calls FTW

Hells yeah
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on July 30, 2016, 08:32:09 am
Good stuff as usual, Woolley! I hate a damn resident Canada goose. Flying rats they are.

I fear I have been either a bad or good influence on the forum with my heathen trout devouring ways. :D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 01, 2016, 11:20:34 am

2016 - 66

http://youtu.be/nqwPyYRxLHA

Back to the river to fulfill the plan, stopped by the shop to pick up an unreasonably expensive cooler, I told the clerk, who gave me a discount, that I must be crazy. Iced down a coupled of sixers and made the drive up after looking at the radar. Just got to the other side of the fence when a pick-up pulls in blowing the horn. I turn and wait for the driver to get out, it's DRIVER!!  I tell him to catch two trout for dinner after reminding him of the 10" - 24" protected slot on the browns. I hit the water and cool off with a Lagunitas. There is a small number of sulfurs on the water and I spy a fish or two rising sporadically. The first two fish that I caught measured a little over eleven inches, so they went back, then I culled a little one and one around nine inches. Cleaned 'em up and went back to drinking and catching until Driver wades up declaring, "I've got enough for two," as he holds up a fat rainbow. Cooked 'em up with some cured bacon and chased with another beer. Fished until darkish and then headed home. Got caught in a violent thunderstorm, missed the turn for the short way home and had to drive an extra 5 miles in the deluge.

Peer pressure
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This has to be one of my all-time favorites
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A tad too big for the frying pan
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A little on the small side but it was tasty
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Especially when washed down with this ipa
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Shore dinner
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Damn, that smells good
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Cooked just right
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Last ditch to get the Driver a brown trout on a dry
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 01, 2016, 18:06:03 pm
Look at you two.  0:0
Another hipster succumbs to the lure of the Yeti.

And Jason going wet wading in the Smiff.  :o
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on August 01, 2016, 20:06:59 pm
It felt sooo good. Wading socks make a world of difference. But a little cool on the nuggets though..
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 01, 2016, 22:13:02 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on August 01, 2016, 18:06:03 pm
Look at you two.  0:0
Another hipster succumbs to the lure of the Yeti.

And Jason going wet wading in the Smiff.  :o

Just tired of warm beerz


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on August 02, 2016, 08:28:47 am
Good stuff!  -0-  -0-  -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 02, 2016, 09:23:07 am
Good stuff.

Yeti? Ha. When I still partook in alcoholic beverages I liked mine room temperature, maybe a little cooler.

Trouts look tasty.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 02, 2016, 11:40:25 am
Quote from: Dee-Vo on August 02, 2016, 09:23:07 am
Good stuff.

Yeti? Ha. When I still partook in alcoholic beverages I liked mine room temperature, maybe a little cooler.

Trouts look tasty.

some of those odd crafty beerz need to be ice cold, the ipas, warm up on the way to the river...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on August 02, 2016, 20:58:29 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on August 02, 2016, 09:23:07 am
Good stuff.

Yeti? Ha. When I still partook in alcoholic beverages I liked mine room temperature, maybe a little cooler.

Trouts look tasty.


I like ice-cold beer, but I like warm likker.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 03, 2016, 10:39:23 am
2016 - 67

I needed some time on the river. Dad's improving and we're bringing him home of Saturday. This will bring a new set of challenges, I hope all goes well with that. Stopped in at City Beverage and picked up a case of the low rider for $24 bucks and topped off the Yeti. The air was thick with humidity and as I rolled into the parking lot the skies looked threatening. Packed the rain jacket and headed on down to the river. That was a miserably hot and sticky walk, but I had a cold one along the way. Once again as soon as I stepped in the river the rain started. I loaded up the rod with a sinking line and tied on a slump buster which had worked well on this stretch before. I resisted putting on the rain jacket because the humidity was so high that it didn't feel like I was getting any wetter in the rain. It came and went for a while and as the bugs started I gave up on the streamer and switched reels and began tossing to the few risers that were looking up. Then the rain set in and I thought about putting that jacket on but it was really too late as I was soaked through. By seven I bailed and headed home. This is the first skunk that I've included in my TRs, there was one other this year, but I'd rather not talk about it.

I have no regrets...
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Looks like trouble..
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Tasty
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Number 2
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slice
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Slump not busted
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Foggiest ever
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Number 3
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6x to 6.5x blood knot
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Number 4
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: benben reincarnated on August 03, 2016, 14:54:31 pm
Damn Keith, in AVL New Belgium 12 packs go for $14.99 on average, and that's not if you get them at the brewery. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 03, 2016, 15:51:17 pm
Quote from: benben reincarnated on August 03, 2016, 14:54:31 pm
Damn Keith, in AVL New Belgium 12 packs go for $14.99 on average, and that's not if you get them at the brewery.

City beverage picks up overstocks and sells em at a discount. A dollar a bottle isn't too bad, some of the more pricy beers have a deeper percentage discount


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on August 03, 2016, 18:23:53 pm
Sometimes skunks aren't a bad thing-they just reset our perception of reality. If it was always easy, it wouldn't be addictive.  And we got some damn good photos out of this one.

Glad your dad is doing better. We have been having all kinds of stuff going on with my 83-year-old mother, and my wife's mom died last week, with an overdose of stupid family drama involved. My brain is fried. I need to go wade a creek.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 03, 2016, 18:35:42 pm
A Smiff skunk is a badge of honor. I've worn it. Will wear it again, I'm sure.
Glad Dad is improving.

Sorry about your mom-in-law Yaller. We juggle our 78-86 yro parents. I'd rather deal with their needs than bury them.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on August 05, 2016, 12:07:46 pm
Woolly got a yeti? Where u at guy let's smiff

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on August 05, 2016, 14:32:35 pm
Almost called you last weekend. But i decided i needed some "me" time.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 05, 2016, 14:54:16 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on August 05, 2016, 12:07:46 pm
Woolly got a yeti? Where u at guy let's smiff

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Could smifff soon holler


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 05, 2016, 14:58:13 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on August 05, 2016, 12:07:46 pm
Woolly got a yeti? Where u at guy let's smiff

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Could smifff soon holler


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on August 10, 2016, 16:39:35 pm
They just jumped it up to 600 CFS. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 10, 2016, 18:08:10 pm
Quote from: creakycane on August 10, 2016, 16:39:35 pm
They just jumped it up to 600 CFS. 


Fuckers, all thay rain, I guess its really a good thing, Brian just creamed his jeans!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 10, 2016, 18:10:55 pm
Lake is 1.7' above the guide curve. I expected this last week.
River Fest is Saturday. Even if they drop it back to 300ish before then, there will be a 4+ hour pulse Saturday early am.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: swervinmervin on August 10, 2016, 20:44:10 pm
That blows. I had the day off and permission from my wife to make the drive down tomorrow. Have a new baby, so opportunities are super limited. Will have to make alternate plans I suppose.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: revfox on August 10, 2016, 20:45:32 pm
Anybody want to kayaking?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: revfox on August 10, 2016, 20:50:43 pm
Quote from: swervinmervin on August 10, 2016, 20:44:10 pm
That blows. I had the day off and permission from my wife to make the drive down tomorrow. Have a new baby, so opportunities are super limited. Will have to make alternate plans I suppose.


Congrats on the new baby. We got a 7 week old and ya...pretty much never gonna go fishing again. I did get out last week thankfully though. Missed a two big browns but only came up with punes.

My brother-in-law's dog had a good time though
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 10, 2016, 21:15:34 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on August 10, 2016, 18:10:55 pm
Lake is 1.7' above the guide curve. I expected this last week.
River Fest is Saturday. Even if they drop it back to 300ish before then, there will be a 4+ hour pulse Saturday early am.


Bad for the fishing but good for the fish. With no regular generation pulses the water was getting close to dangerous  temperatures. This increased flow will help cool things down a bit.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 10, 2016, 22:16:37 pm
Quote from: swervinmervin on August 10, 2016, 20:44:10 pm
That blows. I had the day off and permission from my wife to make the drive down tomorrow. Have a new baby, so opportunities are super limited. Will have to make alternate plans I suppose.


I was getting ready to go, but I kinda was keeping an eye on the gauge cause of all the rain!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on August 11, 2016, 06:38:36 am
You all need to expand your stream portfolios. 

Crossed the Smith many times this year, and not once did i stop. 

Buffalo Mt VA is where its at.  Ample ripe forbidden fruit behind the fences waiting for those daring enough to partake.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 11, 2016, 09:26:16 am
Quote from: Onslow on August 11, 2016, 06:38:36 am
You all need to expand your stream portfolios. 

Crossed the Smith many times this year, and not once did i stop. 

Buffalo Mt VA is where its at.  Ample ripe forbidden fruit behind the fences waiting for those daring enough to partake.


I'm interested. You game?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on August 11, 2016, 11:35:55 am
I'll be out saturday. Looks like my smiff box will stay home

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on August 11, 2016, 12:26:35 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on August 11, 2016, 09:26:16 am
Quote from: Onslow on August 11, 2016, 06:38:36 am
You all need to expand your stream portfolios. 

Crossed the Smith many times this year, and not once did i stop. 

Buffalo Mt VA is where its at.  Ample ripe forbidden fruit behind the fences waiting for those daring enough to partake.


I'm interested. You game?


Sure, when time avails itself.  Too damn busy at the moment.  Still have 20 hours of weekend mentoring to bust out before the year is out, and scouting, as well as everything else.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 11, 2016, 14:33:36 pm
Quote from: Onslow on August 11, 2016, 12:26:35 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on August 11, 2016, 09:26:16 am
Quote from: Onslow on August 11, 2016, 06:38:36 am
You all need to expand your stream portfolios. 

Crossed the Smith many times this year, and not once did i stop. 

Buffalo Mt VA is where its at.  Ample ripe forbidden fruit behind the fences waiting for those daring enough to partake.


I'm interested. You game?


Sure, when time avails itself.  Too damn busy at the moment.  Still have 20 hours of weekend mentoring to bust out before the year is out, and scouting, as well as everything else.


I know the feeling. My workload has multiplied times a billion over the last month or two. I've officially taken full-responsibility at the store as Store Manager. Free-time has been necked-down terribly. Nature of the beast.

I'd like to locate some off-the-grid shit that sees very little to no traffic. I'm in for that tough shit. You know, the type of place that you have to plan out, and the type that makes you wonder why the hell you're there once you finally get there.....

Headwaters we've mentioned in the past still haunt me. I'm looking forward to it. I may have scored more access (legally), but I'm failing to remember if I've mentioned it to you.

I hope all you assholes go fishing soon. I'm feeling the strain.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on August 11, 2016, 16:53:32 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on August 11, 2016, 11:35:55 am
I'll be out saturday. Looks like my smiff box will stay home

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Let's go carpin.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on August 11, 2016, 17:16:49 pm
Where's at?

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on August 11, 2016, 17:35:06 pm
Anywhere the water is not dirty
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on August 11, 2016, 17:35:46 pm
Which rules the triangle and east out
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on August 16, 2016, 22:50:11 pm
http://www.meetup.com/triangleflyfishers/events/232896708/?rv=ea2 (http://www.meetup.com/triangleflyfishers/events/232896708/?rv=ea2)

to many shit shows in one place
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: revfox on August 17, 2016, 00:09:06 am
Quote from: driver on August 16, 2016, 22:50:11 pm
http://www.meetup.com/triangleflyfishers/events/232896708/?rv=ea2 (http://www.meetup.com/triangleflyfishers/events/232896708/?rv=ea2)

to many shit shows in one place


Wow...never been to one of these meetings but this might be a good one to start. I guess he is just advertising? Did he miss the turn for the Triangle Paddling Club?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on August 17, 2016, 05:21:26 am
Quote from: driver on August 16, 2016, 22:50:11 pm
http://www.meetup.com/triangleflyfishers/events/232896708/?rv=ea2 (http://www.meetup.com/triangleflyfishers/events/232896708/?rv=ea2)

to many shit shows in one place


You failed to mention your best friend is coordinating this cluster

http://www.brfff.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2840
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 17, 2016, 07:43:55 am
They are clueless.  p;-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: AAGoldsmith on August 17, 2016, 09:04:49 am
Yes, I joined a fly fishing club a few years back as I was newer to the sport, then volunteered to help out some. Good find sir.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on August 17, 2016, 09:20:44 am
Quote from: Onslow on August 17, 2016, 05:21:26 am
Quote from: driver on August 16, 2016, 22:50:11 pm
http://www.meetup.com/triangleflyfishers/events/232896708/?rv=ea2 (http://www.meetup.com/triangleflyfishers/events/232896708/?rv=ea2)

to many shit shows in one place


You failed to mention your best friend is coordinating this cluster

http://www.brfff.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2840


It is possible that Goldie likes pasty, bony redheads.  One man's cluster fuck can be another man's Les Misérables on Broadway.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on August 17, 2016, 09:54:06 am
Or perhaps he's just a webmaster for the TFF site and has nothing to do with planning meetings, speakers or events?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: AAGoldsmith on August 17, 2016, 09:58:10 am
Mud, you must be smokin some good shit. The only thing I have to do with TFF is updating the meetup page. I don't organize or ask for any speakers, but since you clearly have so much to say, maybe you want to come and give a snore inducing speech about flowers or something?

You guys can fight your own battles with the Smith River, considering your local TU can't get anything done, and half of you just shoot the shit on a forum instead of fighting to get something done.

Whitewater kayaking on the Smith is starting to sound mighty nice.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 17, 2016, 09:59:41 am
Muddy does bugs.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: AAGoldsmith on August 17, 2016, 10:05:08 am
Quote from: Dee-Vo on August 17, 2016, 09:59:41 am
Muddy does bugs.


I hope he at least uses bug-friendly lube.

Entomology presentations are boring too
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 17, 2016, 10:16:31 am
Simmer down boys - I just hope someone asks them about their working relationship with VDGIF and Smith River TU.

I have told both individuals before and it applies here as well - "We are or should be in this together. Together we can accomplish a lot, separately not so much"
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on August 17, 2016, 10:23:50 am
Quote from: Al on August 17, 2016, 10:16:31 am
Simmer down boys - I just hope someone asks them about their working relationship with VDGIF and Smith River TU.

I have told both individuals before and it applies here as well - "We are or should be in this together. Together we can accomplish a lot, separately not so much"


According to Brian, it is great.  He is a Smith River TU member he says.  And VDGIF was in on the meeting about the weekend release.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 17, 2016, 10:43:28 am
The only sure thing about all of this is that if Brian's lips are moving, he's lying.
Those are only two of countless ones he's spouted.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on August 17, 2016, 11:00:02 am
I've spoken to a couple people and I'm texting with others. A plan may be in the works. I am not a TFF member anymore. I relocated to PA last year.
However, if the speaker remains Williams, perhaps a few of our PHWFF members from the local chapter will be willing to drive up to the meeting and thank him for making the river so easily wadable for older fishermen and disabled folks. I'll know tomorrow evening as we have our meeting.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on August 17, 2016, 12:29:35 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on August 17, 2016, 11:00:02 am
I've spoken to a couple people and I'm texting with others. A plan may be in the works. I am not a TFF member anymore. I relocated to PA last year.
However, if the speaker remains Williams, perhaps a few of our PHWFF members from the local chapter will be willing to drive up to the meeting and thank him for making the river so easily wadable for older fishermen and disabled folks. I'll know tomorrow evening as we have our meeting.


At a minimum, perhaps desirable flows could be scored at the behest of the PHWFF during Veterans Day and Memorial Day.  Of course Brain would take.credit for such a thoughtful move.

While on the subject of handicap accessable water,  WTL is developed for those who are mobility challenged at the hatchery section.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on August 17, 2016, 14:09:17 pm
It's a novel idea (for him) but some political types were contacted this spring. If that achieves anything, I'm sure the elected will take credit.

Keep dropping the 94.00 comment. I am but one nonresident who has not bought a license this year. I did pay 16.00 to fish the two times I went this year.

The money saved, paid for licenses in two other states.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on August 17, 2016, 14:56:19 pm
Quote from: AAGoldsmith on August 17, 2016, 10:05:08 am
Quote from: Dee-Vo on August 17, 2016, 09:59:41 am
Muddy does bugs.


I hope he at least uses bug-friendly lube.

Entomology presentations are boring too


My bug talks were not boring --- well maybe they were, but I am no longer in the game.  I've presented my last critter talk. 

Now I am on the fried chicken tour giving speeches on "why men should never wear skinny jeans" and "a woman as president equals fewer wars."
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: swervinmervin on August 17, 2016, 15:59:13 pm


Back to the regularly scheduled programming . . .



Made it out yesterday morning, as I parted ways with the job place ten days ago. Unemployment certainly suits my fishing schedule. This was my first time on the Smith- I wanted to see if it lives up to the hype.

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Should really spend more time in Floyd.
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Fish were plentiful and mostly punes.

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Last fish was the best fish. Almost everything was on dries, though I had a big hit on a streamer at one point.

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Got out of there as it heated up around lunchtime. Beautiful day on the water. Back home to the wife, dog, and new baby.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 17, 2016, 16:07:56 pm
That's getting it done.  y;

Between jobs, or just say fuck it, I'll live off Doug, Mud, Woolly and the boys?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 17, 2016, 17:24:36 pm
Good job Mervin - How was the water flow?  Seems like you found it wadeable.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: swervinmervin on August 17, 2016, 22:59:58 pm
Between jobs. Last boss and I couldn't come to an agreement on terms, paying my previous contract, etc. Frustrating, but a guy has to eat. In the meantime, lots of fishing and baby time.

Flows were quite reasonable, I thought. Gauges were st 300 cfs.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 18, 2016, 07:59:29 am
Holler next time you are planning to go , love / hate that water


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 18, 2016, 12:28:56 pm

I was sitting at the bar with my third gimlet in hand listening to what I can only assume was some kind of tinder date. They were both spouting off their resume of education, jobs and goals.  Then they started talking about how people don't notice change or ask why things were the way they are. I could talk about change, they were both too young to have observed any real change. They both grew up with the Internet. I remember when the main drag in town ended to a two lane flanked with farms where we would drive down the dirt roads and smoke dope, drink and screw while listening to 8-track tapes of Jefferson Starship and Led Zepplin. They know this area as Hanes Mall, the shopping mecca of Forsyth County. I was drinking while I was waiting for a friend to arrive home from an overnight visit to the hospital because of a stress induced cardiac event. A couple day prior, I had unrelenting neck and chest pains and after consulting WebMD, I checked myself into that very same ER. EKG, enzyme and other blood test ruled out anything serious and they chalked it up to a musculoskeletal issue. I had to cough up a $500 obamacare copay for that shit. But at least I know the ole ticker is keeping time and no nasty clots are threatening to lodge in my lungs or brain. These kids were really starting to get on my nerves as they drank iced coffee as if they needed any caffeine in the first place. A couple of shots of tequila might have served them better. The women was especially brilliant in her "we are all slaves to capitalism", as this was an original thought. On and on they went, even touching on white privilege, I had enough and as I left I assign them a history lesson, to watch Famine to Freedom (https://youtu.be/6jIVOgvZ6Ig) on YouTube, just for some perspective. 

But this is a trip report, I was on a roll the first half of the year, hoping to hit over 100 days this year, but as you may or may not have noticed, things have slowed down dramatically the last couple of weeks since dad broke his elbow and I've been staying close to home. He's improving and getting around the house about as good as can be expected, so I slipped out of town for a couple of hours. Added some beer and ice to the cooler and made the drive up the road to the closest trout waters. Hell, I might even cook up a couple of them pune bitches! As I hiked on down to the my spot on the river, old man Philpot drove on past me in his old pickup, damn, I wish he'd of offered me a ride, it was bejezzies hot and humid, pushing the feels like temps to Fucking HOT! By the time I got down to the corner, he was driving back and stopped to let me know that there was a bear laying down in the back corner of the corn field. I said thanks and headed off out into the cool water while drinking a beer. I few bugs were floating on by, a couple of yellow drakes, some sulfurs, bwos and midgets. Tied on a dry and went to work. Damit it! I forgot to but the memory card back in the camera! Fuck, I can only take 4 photos with the built in memory. Why the hell they can't put in 8, 16, or 32 GB of memory is beyond me! Well hell, one fish photo and one beer photo is all you're gonna get for today's report.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2016/08/081616-1.jpg)

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Well it took a while to post this up, cause while I was at work yesterday, dad had another fall, passed out on the bathroom floor, mom called 911 and they transported him to the ER. Spent the day having him checked out and bringing him back home, he's pretty much back to his old self. When the splint comes off in two weeks, I'm headed up on a spring creek road trip with the Spork and Translywader...


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on August 18, 2016, 12:42:22 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on August 18, 2016, 12:28:56 pm
When the splint comes off in two weeks, I'm headed up on a spring creek road trip with the Spork and Translywader...



He's on speaking terms with you again?  Lucky! I'm no longer FB friends with him  :'(

P.S. young people are stupid
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 18, 2016, 13:15:34 pm
Quote from: Big J on August 18, 2016, 12:42:22 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on August 18, 2016, 12:28:56 pm
When the splint comes off in two weeks, I'm headed up on a spring creek road trip with the Spork and Translywader...



He's on speaking terms with you again?  Lucky! I'm no longer FB friends with him  :'(

P.S. young people are stupid


Spork brokered the powwow
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 18, 2016, 20:03:14 pm
What the hell is this shit? A damn downpour I'm the morning, fucked my plans!

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On another note., the downstream temps don't look good at all

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 21, 2016, 10:42:58 am
2016 - 69

Swervinmervin said he was going to hit the Smith on Saturday, so I thought I would join him for a morning of fishing. I attended a memorial service for a friend and previous co-worker who took her own life at the age of 60. The large church was filled to capacity, the service and witnessing was sad and moving. A bunch of old friends and co-workers decided to head to a tavern for an extended wake and that was a good time catching up with old friends. It did however have an impact on my attempt to get to the river early.

When I arrived I noticed that some jerk with VA tags had parked across the drive but fortunately left just enough room to pass. I left a note! Since there was another NC car parked in a proper spot and I figured that was the Swervinmervin's car.

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Despite the coolest day in quite a while I wet waded the chilly waters and drank a couple of beers while waiting for something to happen on the river. It was still stained from the rains and the fog was thick, there only a few bugs in the air, mostly tiny BW0s, and no risers to speak of. The sun came out and the fog lifted momentarily, I spied the Mervin up stream and even saw him hook up with a pune. I worked the water, determined to force a rise. Managed to pick off a couple of punes, but the better fish weren't interested in dodgey dry flies. The Mervin popped up down river and I waded on down to meet and chat with him as it was about time to head on back to the ranch to give dad his Saturday bath. We did the meet and great and I offered him a semi-cold brew, which he gladly accepted. I told him about the car blocking the drive, it was his!  We walked back to the cars and he went home to his wife and two month old child. I retrieved my phone from the back and noticed a bunch of missed calls. Fuk, dad was back in the ER! With the road construction it was a two hour drive. You know that every time someone comes in to draw blood or administer medicine they ask the patient for their birthday! Well it was dad's birthday, so he kept getting birthday wishes form all eh doctors, nurses and staff.... They are keeping him for a couple of night for observation and here I thought he was making some good progress with rehab and all, still in a splint, but that comes off in another week.

One fucked up week after another....

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on August 21, 2016, 10:46:10 am
Damn.  The clouds will eventually depart.  Hate the fishing was rather deficient.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 21, 2016, 11:51:10 am
I like the note.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: swervinmervin on August 21, 2016, 14:13:58 pm


Fog was really heavy all morning and, as he said, very few fish rising. Hooked up with this fella almost immediately. I had left the streamer in the water when I went to grab something from my bag. If it weren't for dumb luck, not sure I'd have any luck at all.

(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k511/jakelawrencevb/EE6B5B63-4B19-49A9-BCAA-11A6B58E252C.jpg)
Had a few fish rising downstream, and a few punes were brought to hand. Most were camera-shy. Almost blew my knee out stepping in between two boulders at one point, so that was fun.

Met the Woolly Bugger! Makes me feel like I almost belong with you shady characters. I believe his second sentence to me was, "Hey did you see the asshole who blocked the drive this morning?" I happily informed him that I was that asshole. Beautiful day, hope for more like it this fall.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on August 21, 2016, 17:20:04 pm
WTF. Where did you learn to park?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on August 23, 2016, 16:44:20 pm
Fished it for an hour or so Saturday afternoon.  The water was high and cloudy.  Managed to catch a grand total of three and with the water being messed up I was glad to get them.  All were in the slot.  First time I've been up there this summer due to all kind of stuff.  Fished for about 30 minutes Sunday morning and caught one.   Loaded my wife in the car and headed home.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on August 25, 2016, 09:33:25 am
Good stuff, fellers.

Ben - sorry the bitch has been so uncooperative

Merv - it's all in the swing (streamers that is)

Woowie - Sunken City beer? They suck. Great note and pix.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on August 25, 2016, 12:04:20 pm
(http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwisweb/data/img/USGS.02073000.147588.00060..20160818.20160825.log.0.p50.gif)

Looks like they bumped the water good today.  Looks like the water temps are pretty good too.  All this rain was a saving grace for lower smith it seems.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: JWJ on August 25, 2016, 13:06:00 pm
The Smith gettin some love
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 26, 2016, 09:17:50 am
I put my hands on several like this yesterday...............

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on August 26, 2016, 10:46:29 am
You guys get a water temp reading down there?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on August 26, 2016, 12:09:35 pm
Quote from: driver on August 26, 2016, 10:46:29 am
You guys get a water temp reading down there?


Consistent 15c all the way from where we started to the end.
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 30, 2016, 17:23:10 pm
2016 - 70

Well thing are looking up in a way, the old man got his splint off and his elbow has mended up well according to the doctors. Now we will fight the battle of getting him to use that arm and rehab it to regain strength and range of motion. Lots of doctors' visits scheduled. Sundowners continues to be a problem and a bit worrisome as we are afraid he'll attempt to wander out in the night.  Dementia is a strange animal. I sure as hell don't want to ever be in his condition, but it creeps up on you year by year.

Drove up to the river in the middle of the day and fished for a bit, I think it was Sunday, but am now not sure. Hot and humid as hell, water stained as the releases pull more and more detritus from the bottom of the lake. No updates on the damn dam repairs, still hoping it will get done by the end of the year. Lower river temperature spikes are worrisome, but there is not much that can be done.
Very few bugs on the water, a couple of midges here and there, an occasional sulfur, an odd mayfly from time to time, tried to catch one for an ID, something dark and size 10. Oh, there was a rise..... worked that spot for a while, the fish never rose again, but I kept working it and finally got the pune to take the fly.

Paddlers! Two groups of six and nine kayaks interrupted the afternoon. Moved on down a ways and spied a few more risers. Drank the beers that I had brought. It was great to get out on the water even when the fishing is so damn slow.

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Finished up the evening at Papa's Pizza before the ride home.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on August 30, 2016, 18:16:59 pm
Good to hear your dad is doing better.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on August 30, 2016, 21:43:55 pm
Hell yes

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 31, 2016, 08:00:04 am
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/173e36ca29f0d27f49a2b5a1ad1d9c10.jpg)

Temps are holding steady over the past three days, have we hit the peak?

Anybody got an update on the damn dam repairs ?


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on August 31, 2016, 09:42:23 am
from what I hear after the new year is our best bet
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 04, 2016, 10:07:02 am

2016 - 71

Finally got the old man in the shower! Whew... one day at a time...

Spork was rumbling about fishing the high country and we're planning a spring creek trip. Decided to take Kayaks up to the local and float a middle section. Beerz and streamers. This was a first time float, so we didn't really know how long it was going to take or how many wadable spots there would be. Just past the put in Spork had a hit, we were thinking this might be good. But hour after hour passed without any luck Casting from the kayak isn't a lot of fun, but we pressed on through the frog water and stopped here and there while banging the banks on the way down. The last two miles were stillwater, backed up from the dam. Now we understand why Fin paddles back upstream.... Learned a little about the river and have made tentative plans to return with a little different float. Really need a two man raft..

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on September 04, 2016, 10:53:08 am
Nice attempt, dudes.

@Ncsporksman -- I hope the vise is serving you well.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on September 04, 2016, 14:12:28 pm
You need a trolling motor as well. There is pretty much 0 flow once you get down there. That water needs to cool off a bit too. We tried floating it at night in my raft a few weeks ago. Couldn't see shit in the fog and my glasses kept fogging up to make things worse. LED headlamps do not work worth a shit in fog either. Trials and Errors I guess.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 04, 2016, 15:55:20 pm
Will not be taking out at the damn dam again! Matt and I talked about mousing at night, didn't think about the fog!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on September 04, 2016, 23:24:03 pm
It's very mousy. Maybe when it.cools off the fog will also and we can dredge up leroy

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on September 06, 2016, 09:33:20 am
Is that an old Willys jeep in the water?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 06, 2016, 11:45:16 am
Quote from: Yallerhammer on September 06, 2016, 09:33:20 am
Is that an old Willys jeep in the water?



Childs toy truck


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on September 06, 2016, 14:44:11 pm
Fished for a little over an hour Saturday afternoon and about an hour Sunday morning.  The fish were were they are supposed to be for this time of the year if you can get to them!

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/obcrouch001/Smith%209-3-16%20007_zpsz6z7p0mm.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/obcrouch001/Smith%209-3-16%20007_zpsz6z7p0mm.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/obcrouch001/Smith%209-3-16%20003_zps2hkx90nx.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/obcrouch001/Smith%209-3-16%20003_zps2hkx90nx.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/obcrouch001/Smith%209-3-16%20002_zpsxxabm7ij.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/obcrouch001/Smith%209-3-16%20002_zpsxxabm7ij.jpg.html)

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag80/obcrouch/obcrouch001/Smith%209-3-16%20001_zpscuokswri.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/obcrouch/media/obcrouch001/Smith%209-3-16%20001_zpscuokswri.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on September 13, 2016, 08:44:58 am


Worked in overdrive all morning so I could play hooky all afternoon.... tied up some micro crawdads and sculps, stole the bossman's Yak and returned to some promising waters. Punes rising to emergers all over but the new 6 weight and line needed to stretch. Scouted a stretch, transmitted the rest of my orders and got in the drink around 4. I hate fishing from a yak, but now I hate it a little less.


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native meth head

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non-native meth monster

n!n





Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on September 13, 2016, 08:52:36 am
Nicely done, Meth Monster.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on September 13, 2016, 11:53:05 am
Dood! Holla
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 13, 2016, 11:58:22 am
Kayak thief, meth much? My phone didn't ring, I was mowing a lawn - and drinking Dales!   


Ps, I have another one of those dink kayaks!

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 16, 2016, 21:49:02 pm


Been too long.  b';

Headed down after cleaning up Cleveland show. (Kicked ass, btw. Mo money.)
Good to see the girl. Camped with two rods and beer in Wowie's hole and ranged from there.
Water was up to 300cfs ish. And milky. Is the lake turning over? the streams coming in are clear.

Nuthin much coming off. For hours you see a sulfur here and there.
Decided to throw meat. Started with terrestrials. Cheeseburgers.

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Chucked some psuedoslumpbusters with the old glass 6 wt. and got a solid bump but no hook up.
Cracked another beer, saw a few more sulfurs popping off. Went back to the 4 wt. Score.

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Spicebush getting jiggy.

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0:0

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on September 16, 2016, 22:09:40 pm
The slumpbuster generally kicks ass.

Good showing.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 16, 2016, 22:20:57 pm
The shitiest cornfield known to mankind.
But thank you Mr. Philpott for letting us walk it.  bd;0

For those of you contemplating sending an action alert response, the access on the Smith is really incredible.
The resident trespassers would be disappointed for most of it's miles.   -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on September 16, 2016, 23:37:21 pm
I think those fish are getting bigger.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 17, 2016, 00:12:28 am
They displayed great vigor!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on September 17, 2016, 09:03:38 am
The water they are letting through seems to have gotten a bit more milking in the past month or so.  They'll probably have to cut the flows some more, unless there is considerable rain in the next few weeks.....
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on September 17, 2016, 21:20:07 pm
It's milky indeed. Not bad for fishing most parts tho

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 18, 2016, 10:31:11 am



Spork and Driver were planning a floaty trip down the Smith, despite hating fishing out of the kayak, I invited myself along. My plans were to start off with streamers on a sinking line, with a floaty line and dry flies and nymphs for plan "B". Spork started hooking up with stones right off, when I went to switch lines, I realized that I left the other reel in the car. Struggled with streamers the rest of the day, with Driver catching a few on beetles and black caddis. I had a couple of tugs and one blow up, but I did manage to consume my share of beer.

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Da sporkster harvested a bow an a brown.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on September 18, 2016, 13:15:49 pm
Quote from: Dee-Vo on September 04, 2016, 10:53:08 am
Nice attempt, dudes.

@NCsporksman -- I hope the vise is serving you well.


loving it, caught many fishes on flies tied, its got good mojo
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on September 18, 2016, 22:04:03 pm
Doug did I see a pull behind combine?  Very 1990.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on September 18, 2016, 22:50:46 pm
Pretty sure I seen one in town a few days ago. May have been the first one I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 19, 2016, 07:21:04 am
Quote from: RiverbumCO on September 18, 2016, 22:04:03 pm
Doug did I see a pull behind combine?  Very 1990.


Two rows at a time, homie.  :banana011:
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on September 19, 2016, 07:51:03 am
Silage cutter, not a combine.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 19, 2016, 08:51:15 am
Correct, sir. It was collecting as much grass and other weeds as corn.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on September 20, 2016, 08:43:28 am
Spent many days in my teenage years driving an old raggedy-ass 2-ton truck in circles around a cornfield beside a silage chopper, then off to the pit silo to dump. Hot, loud, dusty, and paid about threefiddy an hour.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 22, 2016, 21:00:16 pm


Another Thursday end o'day trip.
Got up way early and finished my drive back from Indy. O-H-I-O. F-i-x y-o-u-r r-o-a-d-s.
OK, you're not as bad as PA.

Still had some bidness to deal with, the phone kept ringing and I finally got loaded up and gone late.  b';

The ambassadors were waiting.

(http://i.imgur.com/1jaMPnc.jpg)

Water is extra milky. The lake has to be turning over. Thankfully the temps are not rising along with the color change.

(http://i.imgur.com/eAk4WJv.jpg)

Fishing was sloooow. No rises.
Threw the right dry with a soft hackle dropper. Nuttin. Let it swig. Nuttin.
Went the terrestrial route. Crackleback with inchworm. Nuttin. Crackleback with pink san juan worm. Nuttin.
Streamers? Swung a Mickey Finn. And a Fish Hawk. Nuttin.

Drank another beer and had an early dinner/late lunch.

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I was not amused.

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The sun was fading fast. Tied on a Rusty Comparadun and waded out. Nuttin happening in the run. THE RUN.
Waded down to the next one. Hey. Fish rising here and there.
Especially in the far scum line. With five different currents between me and it.
Waded out in the high milky water as far as I could shuffle and cast.
Some lousy drifts, some ok. Some small fish missed it, finally bought one little 6-7"er to hand. Bye skunk.
10-15 casts later brought a decent fish.

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Decided to head out after that.

7:00. Almost back to the car.

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0:0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on September 22, 2016, 22:02:03 pm
they should rename that filter the "red finger filter" sure did make that fish look pretty, though.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 22, 2016, 22:12:23 pm
Quote from: driver on September 22, 2016, 22:02:03 pm
they should rename that filter the "red finger filter" sure did make that fish look pretty, though.


Just a little shadow and saturation, holmes. The light conditions changed so much in a couple hours.
The ol' Tg-1 is was it is.
Would you prefer Lomo-ish? And yes, the Smiff browns are beauts.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 22, 2016, 22:14:32 pm
I know those dogs


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on September 22, 2016, 22:14:44 pm
Better days are coming.  Might give it a try myself once they get the flows adjusted back to where us old men can stay on our feet.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 23, 2016, 00:07:26 am
I just want clear water and bugs , I hope there will be a bumper crop of sulfurs next year.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on September 23, 2016, 05:44:19 am
Quote from: driver on September 22, 2016, 22:02:03 pm
they should rename that filter the "red finger filter" sure did make that fish look pretty, though.


Iphoto on the ole desktop doesn't give ya red fingers.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on September 23, 2016, 09:37:31 am
~1~ Ohio roads do suck. I agree. So do their strip clubs.....

~2~ Is that a Fishpond thermometer on your vest? If so, I just ordered and received one in a different color. The statements made by @Big J and @Onslow on my sucky creek report influenced me to keep a thermometer with me from now on for stream temperatures.

~3~ We'll hit that river at least once next week. I'm looking forward to it. Fishing a river like that will make anyone a better fisherman.

~4~ @Dougfish -- How was that the right dry if no fish took it? Unless, of course, it was the same fly that eventually attracted a take, just without the dropper.

~5~ I'm glad you caught a couple, @Dougfish.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 23, 2016, 09:46:12 am
It's their keeper. But I do have the thermometer, too. Use it a lot. Ben always wants to know the temp.  :laugh:
56 yesterday, BTW.

The right fly is only the right fly for a moment, grasshopper.
But some parachute adams, sulfurs, and puff daddies in 16-18 increase the odds.
PT and hares ear soft hackle. 16.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on September 23, 2016, 09:54:36 am
Quote from: Dougfish on September 23, 2016, 09:46:12 am
It's their keeper. But I do have the thermometer, too. Use it a lot. Ben always wants to know the temp.  :laugh:
56 yesterday, BTW.

The right fly is only the right fly for a moment, grasshopper.
But some parachute adams, sulfurs, and puff daddies in 16-18 increase the odds.
PT and hares ear soft hackle. 16.


I've fished the Smith a few times now. Several hookups took place while fishing dries (can't remember what fly), more took place while nymphing (hare's ear or pheasant tail most likely)-(sometimes single sometimes as a dropper or tandem). One lonely fish fell to a small streamer (woolly bugger or slumpbuster).

True stats.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on September 25, 2016, 09:05:53 am
Any of you boys fishing the Smith today?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 25, 2016, 09:10:30 am
Won't be back for a week.  b';
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: swervinmervin on September 25, 2016, 13:39:41 pm


Made it out for a few hours Saturday morning. I've been stay-at-home dad for two weeks now, so a forgiving wife let me out of the house to fish. Good morning, caught them on everything from dries to a woolly bugger. Best one of the day came on a zebra midge. Seven or eight were brought to hand.

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This guy just smashed the nymph the second it hit the water. Never seen one do that before.
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A delightful Saturday morning.



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on September 25, 2016, 20:18:10 pm



Headed to the Smith this afternoon. I've been wanting a little larger piece of water. I followed a Bentley a good ways to the river. Landed 2 little dudes and lost 4. I'll be back, but I'm fishing a different stretch next time.

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n!n n!n n!n n!n n!n n!n


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on September 26, 2016, 05:30:39 am
Good stuff, Merv and Wade.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Yallerhammer on September 26, 2016, 13:24:14 pm
Confucious say a day spent catching a few is better than a day spent looking at pictures of somebody else catching a lot. :D Good stuff.

Doug, you've done got me hooked on that damn Mexican yuppie beer now.
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 01, 2016, 17:57:01 pm
The smiff is fucked, dregs from the bottom of the lake are making the river too muddy to fish or wade IMHO!

https://vimeo.com/185208522 (https://vimeo.com/185208522)


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on October 16, 2016, 14:33:30 pm
Back up to 500 CFS to clear out Matthew water and drop the lake.

Any news on the turbines/work on the dam?  Wondering if they will be back to normal releases before year's end?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 16, 2016, 18:37:14 pm
Hope they get it fixed soon, but I wouldn't net that it'll be on time


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 20, 2016, 09:54:32 am

2016 - 78

https://youtu.be/oHowqKYSXNI

What the fuck was I thinking? I had been up to the river a couple of weeks ago, before Matthew dumped all that rain and the dam was pouring mud then. Why I thought that it would be any different after they raised the release to dump the storm water is beyond me. To be fair, they had clamped down of the flow to 250 cfs, so at least it was wadable. But Jesus, it is muddier now that ever. I can only imagine that the constant flow from the very bottom of the dam has created an underwater canyon eroded out of the decades of sediment at the bottom of the fucking lake. I swore off this river that last time I visited, but I must be suffering from some sort of delusional episode.  The sad part is that I knew it was going to be fucked the moment I saw the river in Bassett, but no, I continued on up the road and then, while drinking the first of many ice cold Yeti cooled beers, I proceeded to don my waders in the 87 degree heat and then walk ¾ of a mile across the now harvested sun baked fields with the sun beating down on my back. Fuck, it's October, but it feels more like August. Anyway when I get to the water, it's a disaster, visibility is only about eight inches, and I know wading is going to be sketchy on this incredibly fucked up river bottom that is a bitch to wade in the best of conditions. I came prepared to throw small streamers on a sinking line, my back-up plan was some Sam Adams Rebel IPAs that I stashed in my vest, I also brought along a floating line and some dry flies in the off chance that there would be some risers on this fucked up muddy river. Well I hit seven or eight different runs, that almost always produce, with four different streamers before saying, "Fuck this shit!" and heading back to where I had stashed the beer. Cold and crisp the Sam Adams went down smoothly, especially well because I bought the twelver for 13 bucks.
I took some photos, drank another beer, watch the birds and even saw a bald eagle. I fished on some more, but my heart wasn't in it and I left before dusk.

Here is what the afternoon looked like!

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on October 20, 2016, 10:38:27 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on October 16, 2016, 18:37:14 pm
Hope they get it fixed soon, but I wouldn't net bet that it'll be on time
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The latest is we either need to buy a kayak, canoe or raft - it is going to be well into next year before they get the repairs done.

In the meantime they hope to lower the flows back to 100-150 as soon as they get the pool behind the dam a little below normal. Flows will increase anytime there is a significant rain. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 20, 2016, 11:13:28 am
Quote from: Al on October 20, 2016, 10:38:27 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on October 16, 2016, 18:37:14 pm
Hope they get it fixed soon, but I wouldn't net bet that it'll be on time
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The latest is we either need to buy a kayak, canoe or raft - it is going to be well into next year before they get the repairs done.

In the meantime they hope to lower the flows back to 100-150 as soon as they get the pool behind the dam a little below normal. Flows will increase anytime there is a significant rain.



Flow reduction won't help the damn dam muddy water---gonna take a long long time for the river to get back to normal. We might even have a low reproduction this year if that mud covers the redds.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on October 20, 2016, 11:52:34 am
Maybe we can get them to throw a shit ton of Mysis shrimp in there when they get everything else sorted out. That'll fatten those little bastards right up.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on October 20, 2016, 12:21:22 pm
Tjats would be badass if they could survive in the lake.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 31, 2016, 13:09:55 pm


2016 - 79

Saturday morning at the coffee shop reading some Harrison, I came across this passage.

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Got me thinking about this election and I bailed, headed go the old local to check it out. Water temps are finally dropping back into safe range. Popped a beer while getting the gear ready. And hiked on down the trail. Stopped when I saw these mushrooms, oysters and honeys ...

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Resumed hiking and in a moment of disbelief I realized that the tip of the rod was missing. Jesus! What the fuck? Damn it. I knew I should have strung the rod back at the car. I turned back and carefully retraced my steps a half mile back to the car. I went slow as I knew it would be difficult to see the brown rod tip among the leaves littering the trail. No luck! Got another rod out and hiked back in again looking for the missing rod section. Finally got to the river and took a beer break.

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Clear skies and cloudy water, proved that the fishing wasn't easy, as I only caught one middling trout.

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Here's how I felt about the day so far.



I needed another beer, so I headed back to the car. Once again keeping an eye out for the rod tip. I stopped to check my Instagram to see if Buddy had offered up an ID on the mushrooms and then I was getting ready to take a photo of the leaf strewn floor of the forest, when I noticed, right there in front of me was the Sage Response Tip! Hell Yeah!

Can you see it?
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Loaded up with a couple of high gravity IPAs and headed on to the upper reach of this section of the river.

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Caught another fish that blew up on a streamer, iphone remained in my pocket.
Found a pair of clippers and fished on back downstream. Did not move another fish.

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Called it a day and headed on home.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on October 31, 2016, 14:11:17 pm
 :banana072:  You drove right by us?

At least I didn't pick up any snooty beer cans.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 31, 2016, 22:31:37 pm
I saw no other cars


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on October 31, 2016, 23:48:05 pm
What passage?

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ptfranze on November 01, 2016, 09:40:21 am
Don't know how you found that rod tip, I don't think I would ever have seen that.  Hell I can hardly see it in the picture
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 01, 2016, 11:23:42 am
Quote from: NCsporksman on October 31, 2016, 23:48:05 pm
What passage?



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mybad.... left it out...



Quote from: ptfranze on November 01, 2016, 09:40:21 am
Don't know how you found that rod tip, I don't think I would ever have seen that.  Hell I can hardly see it in the picture


Wouldn't have found it if not for dumb luck!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on November 01, 2016, 11:55:46 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on October 20, 2016, 11:13:28 am
Quote from: Al on October 20, 2016, 10:38:27 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on October 16, 2016, 18:37:14 pm
Hope they get it fixed soon, but I wouldn't net bet that it'll be on time
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The latest is we either need to buy a kayak, canoe or raft - it is going to be well into next year before they get the repairs done.

In the meantime they hope to lower the flows back to 100-150 as soon as they get the pool behind the dam a little below normal. Flows will increase anytime there is a significant rain.



Flow reduction won't help the damn dam muddy water---gonna take a long long time for the river to get back to normal. We might even have a low reproduction this year if that mud covers the redds.


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A low reproduction year might be a good thing. Too many small fish in there already.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ptfranze on November 01, 2016, 11:56:53 am
What was the id on the shroom?  I asked my buddy who is a forager and chef/owner of a farm to table restaurant in charlotte.  He said from the picture he couldn't tell 100% on it and would probably just leave it. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 01, 2016, 13:30:53 pm
The light colored ones are oysters (100%) and the darker ones are honey (89%)

I didn't harvest either!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on November 01, 2016, 14:23:21 pm



Immersion in the Legends novellas is a good place to wait out the political season and the murky water......


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 16, 2016, 18:42:54 pm
#found #noyoucanthabethemback

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on November 17, 2016, 09:37:15 am
You need to fish the shit out of that sculpin helmet pattern. That time you and I fished the declining generation last Aug, they were what I was using. They work even better further down river of where we were.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 19, 2016, 12:32:19 pm


https://youtu.be/VFHA15B8iNI

2016 - 84


Jesus! Can't these fuckers at the dam stick to a schedule! The water shouJD be falling by no, but fuck it still going full bore. Resigned to waiting I pulled out the laptop and took care of some business. Then I rigged up and tied on one of the streamers I had found the other day, and waded out into the run. After about twenty minutes the water began to fall and the fish began to attack the fly.

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GF "Well, I didn't hear from you about any plans so I accepted another offer..."
WB "Are you serious?, call me
GF " Yes, I'll call in a minute.."

She called and we made plans for Saturday night..

to be continued in the Albie thread....



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on November 19, 2016, 16:02:38 pm
Do I see a missing adipose fin on #3?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 19, 2016, 17:00:51 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on November 19, 2016, 16:02:38 pm
Do I see a missing adipose fin on #3?


that is what you don't see.... and I caught two of 'em
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on November 19, 2016, 18:22:27 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on November 19, 2016, 17:00:51 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on November 19, 2016, 16:02:38 pm
Do I see a missing adipose fin on #3?


that is what you don't see.... and I caught two of 'em


Nice. Indications of success.
I got one a few weeks back and I had one that came unbuttoned that I would have loved to have got a look at.
I shall refocus my efforts after finals.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on November 20, 2016, 01:00:07 am
Water still filthy?


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 20, 2016, 02:39:34 am
Quote from: IFStultz on November 20, 2016, 01:00:07 am
Water still filthy?


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Yes, and it will be until they fix the damn dam


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: rford on November 20, 2016, 21:09:00 pm
The dam or the generator will take until July according to a recent estimate.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on November 22, 2016, 14:24:41 pm
Did the lake turn over? Temp dropped and da river is supposedly clear in M-ville.

I'll eyeball it in the am.   -0-      With 6 wt. in hand.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on November 22, 2016, 18:45:01 pm
Please reporte

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on November 22, 2016, 18:57:13 pm
Yinzer trout for me in the morning.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on November 23, 2016, 00:42:40 am
Gross bro

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on November 23, 2016, 09:48:30 am
Compared to the upper River, Mville down has looked fairly clear all fall. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 23, 2016, 10:12:57 am
Quote from: creakycane on November 23, 2016, 09:48:30 am
Compared to the upper River, Mville down has looked fairly clear all fall.


Just think of all that mud settling out in the upper river


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on November 24, 2016, 10:57:19 am
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on November 23, 2016, 10:12:57 am
Quote from: creakycane on November 23, 2016, 09:48:30 am
Compared to the upper River, Mville down has looked fairly clear all fall.


Just think of all that mud settling out in the upper river


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Wandering around the upper river above mirror, there is certainly more silt along the edges than we are used to.  Fluffy stuff. 
Then the water stays pretty turbid all the way to martinsville reservoir (banks through bassett/fdale loaded with the fluffy stuff), and then pretty clear to mildly turbid below mville.  I am hoping much of the silt is being left in Mville reservoir.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ryguy on November 27, 2016, 12:29:40 pm
Friday we made the trek to Danville to celebrate Thanksgiving with my wife's family.  With the great weather I made certain to pack my fishing gear.  I always get up around 5:30, and while the rest of the family sleeps, I can get in a few hours fishing.  This was the case this morning as I left at 6:30 for the Smith.  I've fished here about 6 times a year over the past 4 years, and am by no means an expert.  Usually I don't catch anything, but it's always fun.  I really enjoy this river, and the various sections.  I fished 2 spots below Martinsville, both were clear and not silted over.  Wading did not stir up much silt either.  Temps were in the 20s when I arrived, my guides iced over and  I caught none at the first spot.  Went upstream a few miles and caught 6 total.  Largest was about 12", a personal best on this river.

2 fish I managed to photograph:
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on November 27, 2016, 12:38:08 pm
That'll work.  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on November 27, 2016, 12:41:02 pm
I crossed over the Smith in several places this morning and the water looks clear. Much better than the last time I looked about 2 weeks ago. Pulled into a couple spots for a closer look and if I'd had my rod I would have given it a try. Looked very wader friendly.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on November 28, 2016, 21:05:02 pm
Just left the river.  It's finally CRYSTAL clear down low....and a low as I've seen it in quite some time. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on November 28, 2016, 21:29:25 pm
All you folks who are wondering what is going on with the Smith River Fishery or repairs at Philpott Dam should make an effort to attend the SRTU meeting December 1st, 6:30pm @ Rainia's in uptown Martinsville. Check the club news section for details. http://www.brfff.com/forum/index.php/topic,14377.msg146345.html#new
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ryguy on November 29, 2016, 11:27:50 am
Hope the river stays clear for awhile.  Visiting again over New Years, and will be fishing.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 14, 2016, 20:52:35 pm
2016 - 95

I should just stop this nonsense, taking marginal trips is not the way to finish up the year, but I can't help myself. I didn't plan to fish today, but a Doug asked if I was going and we set some plans to fish upper smith stocked water that is strange to me. "Why not", I thought! The weather is going to get nasty tomorrow and I've got other plans for the weekend. Which is good, something normal, drinking, eating good food and canoodling, trumps cold weather fishing any day!

Crosstown rush hour traffic, all these poor sob's headed in to work. I'll just keep going out of town and down the road.

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We were greeted by some free range hackle looking for a handout.

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Water was up a bit and stained enough to make you think streamers, why not? Go big or go home, right? WTF, punes attacking a streamer? Not making my day...

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DSFK

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River was pumping and I didn't stay too late... 

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 14, 2016, 22:26:26 pm


I guess I'm marginal.  n!n
I didn't want to battle the generation below Martinsville, so I talked WB into going upstream. Yeah, it's a stocked section, but that's not what we were targeting. Just dingy enough to make wading deep interesting. We stuck with streamers too long. Fucking hard heads. I finally switched to a big girdlebug and scored.

More DSFK.


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We ended up lower after all. Scored a couple more. One off of a wet fly dropper. Both were triploid looking.
Then I bailed earlier than I wanted to. 5 days into a bad lower gut bug and no bueno.
Slunk off and ruined the KFC bathroom down the road before heading home.

Left the sketchy guy down there.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on December 14, 2016, 22:57:40 pm
 'c; Good Job guys. You both can kiss my ass. Fuckin work SUCKED today!

Wonder what the demise of the Red Winged Blackbird was?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 15, 2016, 09:26:07 am
Yes, looks fun; I miss that river.

West Nile would be my guess on the bird killer.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 15, 2016, 10:20:12 am
look at Dougie, posting up better feeesh and dead shit... y;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bamafisher on December 19, 2016, 13:55:43 pm
Went out on Saturday morning, it's been a long while since I lasted chased trout (6 months) so I was fully prepared to get whooped.
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Fished my sweet 30 buck Eagle Claw glass for the heck of it.
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Hit the water with a good friend from PHW.
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The fish were willing and cooperated for the most part.
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Kyle getting some.
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Grabbed the wrong wading boots and didn't realize till I got to the water. Luckily with owning horses there is always hay twine everywhere. Managed to make it through day. Def enjoyed the day on the water, it had been way way too long.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on December 19, 2016, 14:23:37 pm
You haven't fished for trout for 6 months and you decide to fish the Smith?  :o Your a brave man.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 19, 2016, 15:14:38 pm
My man!
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Post by: ptfranze on December 19, 2016, 15:30:06 pm
Love the blue cheek on the last fish picture  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on December 27, 2016, 22:50:11 pm
Caught a trout and broke my rod tip on a snag. Shit.
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on December 28, 2016, 00:42:40 am
Ho Lee Fuk. This reminds me. I think I went a whole year without breaking a rod.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 28, 2016, 03:14:02 am
Ouch


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: DRIFTS on December 28, 2016, 05:14:38 am
Rod breakage sux >:(
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: bamafisher on December 28, 2016, 09:00:19 am
Don't worry duct tape will take care of that, it slows down the action but should be fine
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: JWJ on December 29, 2016, 09:51:27 am
If anyone finds an old school Brodin Frying Pan Ghost net with a carabiner and magnetic net holder attached to the top on the Smith lemme know. Lost it a couple days ago fishing with my old man. Hoping maybe it got caught up in some debris downstream and someone will stumble upon it.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 29, 2016, 10:03:23 am
Quote from: JWJ on December 29, 2016, 09:51:27 am
If anyone finds an old school Brodin Frying Pan Ghost net with a carabiner and magnetic net holder attached to the top on the Smith lemme know. Lost it a couple days ago fishing with my old man. Hoping maybe it got caught up in some debris downstream and someone will stumble upon it.


More Smiff sukage.  b';
Will keep my eye out for it manana. Where were you fishing?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 29, 2016, 19:42:25 pm
I lost a Brodin Tailwater on the smifff last year , sux


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ryguy on December 29, 2016, 20:26:49 pm
Heading there either tomorrow or Saturday.  Will have an eye out.  Have lost many an object on the water before.  Most notably my favorite hat.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on December 30, 2016, 12:42:48 pm
Things lost: a pair of Oakley Gascans with amber polarized lenses. Either lost at Eggleston or Riverside Chuch. Reward offered.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 30, 2016, 13:20:13 pm
Got no booty.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 30, 2016, 16:33:48 pm
well it looks clear...

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 30, 2016, 17:22:53 pm
I thought about going today , but the wind kept me away


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 30, 2016, 18:13:41 pm
Smart call. It was brutal. Flogged until 2. Did the front put the bite down? Managed 3 early.  Computer is acting up. Maybe pics later?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ryguy on December 30, 2016, 18:18:58 pm
That's dedication.  I'll be out that way tomorrow morning.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on December 30, 2016, 23:25:02 pm


I almost didn't go this morning. Wind was howling at home and I could go Saturday instead.
Nah. I was should have been committed. And I knew I'd probably have it to myself.

The welcoming committee.

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Started gearing up. When your assembled rod and reel almost blows off the roof of the car, you might have made a wrong decision.  :o
Any of you guize lose the lube for your joint?

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Save a tree, eat a beaver.

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Conditions dictated the fishing. The wind was coming directly downstream OK, soft hackles and wet flies across and down.

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Managed 2 small browns and a surprisingly nice stocker bow.
Then the wind really kicked up.   n!n
No coffee.

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The trees were creaking and swaying. Lots of small and medium branches and branchlets started hitting the water.
When one hit me, I packed it in.

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And 2016 is in the books.
Cheers, lads.
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on December 31, 2016, 11:45:05 am
Damn...I Might head up there manana
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 31, 2016, 19:11:55 pm
Quote from: driver on December 31, 2016, 11:45:05 am
Damn...I Might head up there manana


New Years Day Fish Fry on da Smifff.... 0:0 d:b <-;:
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on December 31, 2016, 20:03:43 pm
Holla
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 31, 2016, 21:14:26 pm
If I do go it will be later In the day


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on December 31, 2016, 21:46:11 pm
Weather was good.

Stopped at a new for me spot---got skunked.

Went elsewhere---put on a streamer I tied.

Bam---my best fish of the year :

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Suprisingly he didnt fight that much---kinda just layed there like fuuuccck not again...

Saw a couple more fish, one rather large brown that was tailing the fly, practically sniffing it...but wouldn't commit

Welp a good end to the year...
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on December 31, 2016, 21:57:51 pm
Sweet :banana011:
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ryguy on December 31, 2016, 23:03:35 pm
Damn nice fish.  I fished it this morning, got skunked.  And cold.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 01, 2017, 09:13:04 am
Nice end O year fish.  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on January 01, 2017, 09:32:29 am
Pretty work.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 01, 2017, 11:31:58 am
Sweet!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 02, 2017, 07:56:31 am
Sweet.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 12, 2017, 23:05:49 pm


Jumped in the upper river for a couple of hours before a meeting. Pumping about 180-200 cfs. Just fast enough to slow down your wading and check your footing. There is more sediment on the flat rocks and the slippage is real. A little BWO action. A few caddis aloft. Alone on the river. And slow.
Netted four, missed about the same on splashy takes. First trout of 2017 a Smiff brown. A husky bow came out to play, too.
Lots of bugs under the rocks. Spring hatches could be real.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 13, 2017, 00:23:26 am
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Tied up some puff daddies


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on January 13, 2017, 00:39:58 am
What was the water clarity like? Curious if the snow melt will stain it up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on January 13, 2017, 06:14:54 am
Quote from: driver on January 13, 2017, 00:39:58 am
What was the water clarity like? Curious if the snow melt will stain it up.

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Clear.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 13, 2017, 08:27:27 am
Yep, pretty clear.  /'/
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on January 13, 2017, 22:29:13 pm
Damn Doug, those roachbows look like they have been there for awhile, and gone native.  y;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 14, 2017, 08:47:31 am
I don't know about gone rogue and all, but the past few have been fat, fiesty and been there a while. Fins ,tails and color were excellent.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on January 15, 2017, 21:13:57 pm
Best winter fishing I can remember on the Smith. Wish it ran at 150cfs anytime they are not generating, but........


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 17, 2017, 11:58:32 am


https://youtu.be/dfo6SgtnnEk

Walked in across the field, barren now, every kernel of corn picked from the cobs, in silence waiting for the spring plow.

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The old truck sits idle, resting on bald tires.

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Stepped down to the river and realized that I just high holed some dude. Standing on the bank I rigged my rod with a small slumpbuster while keeping an eye on the angler. Ok, it looks like he's moving down stream. I waded up a bit and began working the water. A fish flashed on the streamer on the third cast, a good sign I hoped.

Pune on the buster of slumps

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Noticed that the guy was now working back upstream, maybe I stepped in on his water. Took another step and slipped, sat down to avoid a fall, but with wader pants on, I felt the cold water running in around my waist. Stood up quickly and removed my phone from the damp pants pocket. Whew, that was close and probably some sort of Karma revenge for my transgression.

He got out of the river and hiked on down a ways, I worked my favorite run and missed another fish, when I noticed a riser up close to the bank. There were a few BWOs in the air along with an assortment of miniscule midges, which reminded me why I dislike this stretch of the river in the winter. The fish rose a second time, hmmm, time to switch to a dry fly.

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Fluffed up the #18 parachute BWO and worked this fish, on about the 20th cast (18 IMHO perfect drifts) the fish struck.

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Now what? I hadn't seen another fish rise, so I just hit the usual runs, until the wind and my wet shirt and jacket made me think it was time for some dry clothes. Hiked on out after inspecting this recent beaver activity.

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There was a new path down along the fallen tree where they gnawed all the bark that could be reached.

img width=800 height=451]http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2017/1-17/011517-102.jpg[/img]

Moved on down river at dusk with an hour of sunlight left in the day, streamertime! Worked the close run and thought about wading across and up the far side but opted for the easier near side trail. Worked a run that has not produced for me since last winter. I worked it near and far, up and down thoroughly. Stopped and took a few photos in the fading light and was ready to move on down to the next run when I though I should cast one more time.

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Worked the rest of this short section without seeing another fish, walked out in the quite of the evening, with only the fading sound of the river and the crunch of the fallen leaves.

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Drove on back into town for some dinner, BEEF BURGER!

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on January 17, 2017, 12:06:06 pm
Hell yea, Woolly.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on January 17, 2017, 12:16:31 pm
 Good report / photos Woolly. Reminds me I need to start switching gears from deer hunting to fishing. Still have 2 months left of urban archery.  I promised Damsel Fly I would shoot one for her but she would have to help drag it out and clean it. If the weather warms up I may give up on that idea and just give her some straight from the freezer.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: gamatt53 on January 18, 2017, 11:49:59 am
I got up there monday for a couple hours in the afternoon. It had been awhile and I was rusty...had really lost the subtleness required to softly land a cast after bombing warmwater all summer but it started to come back. Wasted a good bit of time throwing a dry then eventually caved to nymphing and dialed them in on a little black stonefly trailed by a cream midge.  Way more silt and didymo than I can remember below basset but the 150 flows were nice.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on January 19, 2017, 22:38:02 pm
Sounds about right. I'm due to hit it again, preferably not in 420 CFS down low.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 23, 2017, 18:02:49 pm

2017 - 6

I was finished I tell you, finished with that project, so when I took off in the afternoon to fish puneville I wasn't worried about streeling away a couple of hours from work. Made the drive up in an hour and change only to find the usually empty lot filled with four cars, WTF on a Thursday afternoon..., I thought about heading to another spot, but popped a beer as I wasn't in a hurry, put the reel on ass backwards, snapped a photo and posted it, only to realize my faux pas a bit later... A spin / corn dunker dude came off the river and we talked for a while. "How'd you do?' I enquired. "Didn't catch any," he replied. I asked what he was using and looked at his spinners and offered up some suggestion "Them other guys, wouldn't say anything and gave me the evil eye," he told me. "I got me a fly poll, but haven't figured it out yet," he continued. I told him to get in touch with the local TU and that there was a "Fishing with friends" event that might give him some pointers on fly fishing...

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When I got to the water I realized that I had not only put the reel on assbackwards, but had posted up the pic... well at least I was drinking a beer at 1 o'clock.

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Convinced that the stunted browns will still strike a streamer I tried on a small slumpbuster.

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Worked the run and damn if I didn't get lowholed, so I changed directions and went up to the slough

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Caught a couple of streamer eating browns and a trespassing rainbow who moved down from the stocked waters.
Then the damn phone rang. "We need you to make a couple of changes on the show!" Fuckeity fuk fuk! Trudge back to the car and make the drive back to the office made the changes and got the file uploaded before five. 

Jazz Night - beer, music, and fly tying...

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 18:08:39 pm
The reel was on the correct side, the line was wound on backwards.  :banana072:
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 23, 2017, 18:51:33 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 18:08:39 pm
The reel was on the correct side, the line was wound on backwards.  :banana072:


No one, not even Dougie, I mean NO ONE casts rightie and switches hands to retrieve/wind the line with their right.  Not even a professional title-holding  wanker, who can switch hands in a single Planck length and not miss a rub, would employ such awkwardness when fly fishing!

Sorry, this has nothing to do with the Smith, but we/I can't let Doug spout BS. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 19:24:08 pm
Keep living under that Bath County rock, Steve-O.
When that bonefish takes me into the backing, I'll be cranking him back with my dominate hand.
Just the way I cranked those Carp in. You'll notice, I didn't have to go home at 1 for a nap.
Psst: J sets his up the same.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 23, 2017, 19:35:20 pm
LHR rules


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on January 23, 2017, 20:28:49 pm
that's an awful lot of vehicles for that spot. I would have given him directions to where they stock the rainbows. They like them mepps n shit.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 23, 2017, 20:37:23 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 19:24:08 pm
When that bonefish takes me into the backing, I'll be cranking him back with my dominate hand.
Just the way I cranked those Carp in. You'll notice, I didn't have to go home at 1 for a nap.


Dominant hand is for jerking off and holding onto the rod!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 20:43:46 pm
Agree on jerking off. I can hold the rod in my arm pit. If I could jerk off with my arm pit, I'd be famous. And rich.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on January 23, 2017, 22:23:17 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 19:24:08 pm
Keep living under that Bath County rock, Steve-O.
When that bonefish takes me into the backing, I'll be cranking him back with my dominate hand.
Just the way I cranked those Carp in. You'll notice, I didn't have to go home at 1 for a nap.
Psst: J sets his up the same.


You leave me out of this you weirdo.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on January 23, 2017, 22:53:12 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 19:24:08 pm
Keep living under that Bath County rock, Steve-O.
When that bonefish takes me into the backing, I'll be cranking him back with my dominate hand.
Just the way I cranked those Carp in. You'll notice, I didn't have to go home at 1 for a nap.
Psst: J sets his up the same.

If it works for you then, great!

But I could not imagine fighting Albacore with my non-dominate arm. You don't need strength to reel in the fish, but strength to pull the fish in and then reel in the slack.

I'd have to agree with Muddy on this one.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on January 23, 2017, 22:57:17 pm
Quote from: driver on January 23, 2017, 22:53:12 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 19:24:08 pm
Keep living under that Bath County rock, Steve-O.
When that bonefish takes me into the backing, I'll be cranking him back with my dominate hand.
Just the way I cranked those Carp in. You'll notice, I didn't have to go home at 1 for a nap.
Psst: J sets his up the same.

If it works for you then, great!

But I could not imagine fighting Albacore with my non-dominate arm. You don't need strength to reel in the fish, but strength to pull the fish in and then reel in the slack.

I'd have to agree with Muddy on this one.


If your left arm is not strong enough to  keep pressure on a frickin fish, then you may want to think about doing some curls for the girls.

#I'veneverfishedforalbies
#whereismyinvite
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on January 24, 2017, 00:03:33 am
Quote from: Big J on January 23, 2017, 22:57:17 pm
Quote from: driver on January 23, 2017, 22:53:12 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 23, 2017, 19:24:08 pm
Keep living under that Bath County rock, Steve-O.
When that bonefish takes me into the backing, I'll be cranking him back with my dominate hand.
Just the way I cranked those Carp in. You'll notice, I didn't have to go home at 1 for a nap.
Psst: J sets his up the same.

If it works for you then, great!

But I could not imagine fighting Albacore with my non-dominate arm. You don't need strength to reel in the fish, but strength to pull the fish in and then reel in the slack.

I'd have to agree with Muddy on this one.


If your left arm is not strong enough to  keep pressure on a frickin fish, then you may want to think about doing some curls for the girls.

#I'veneverfishedforalbies
#whereismyinvite


So you're saying I should start drinking with my left hand?

by about the 5th albie I start holding the cork with my left and start pulling my rod with the right  :;!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 24, 2017, 08:27:16 am
"But the choice is yours. Don't let anybody tell you there is a right or wrong way to reel."

http://www.orvis.com/s/fly-fishing-reeling-technique/2853 (http://www.orvis.com/s/fly-fishing-reeling-technique/2853)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 24, 2017, 10:47:33 am
Amphibians rule just ask Kermit it's good to be green!
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 24, 2017, 11:03:13 am
Quote from: Dougfish on January 24, 2017, 08:27:16 am
"But the choice is yours. Don't let anybody tell you there is a right or wrong way to reel."

http://www.orvis.com/s/fly-fishing-reeling-technique/2853 (http://www.orvis.com/s/fly-fishing-reeling-technique/2853)


You failed to include the author of this profound proclamation.  Tom Rosenbauer!  Are you kidding me?  I'm supposed to take the guidance of a man that couldn't hang on to Margot?  If Tom can't gratify and retain a good looking gal, then I ain't listening to his angling decrees.   

And earlier you mention our good pal, Big J.   While I deeply admire (on some stuff) and adore the young man, he uses a pink weenie like it is the only pattern available.  This misdirected dogmatic conduct on brookie waters leaves me numb and generates reservation when it comes to his angling aptitude.

You need to choose your referenced authorities carefully.   
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on January 24, 2017, 11:23:24 am
You forgot to add that I like stainless steel.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on January 24, 2017, 21:31:06 pm
As of 8:30 PM on tues 24th, flows show 330 at dam, but almost 900 in Bassett.  How can this be?
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 24, 2017, 22:26:15 pm
They got three or four inches of rain and the lake is full

They may be generating and the dam is still overtopping


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 24, 2017, 22:32:36 pm
They can't generate. The can open the gates more, though. Don't expect an announced release. Surfs up!
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 24, 2017, 22:34:59 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 24, 2017, 22:32:36 pm
They can't generate. The can open the gates more, though. Don't expect an announced release. Surfs up!



I read that wrong! I was thinkerating about Martinsville . The additional flow is coming from town creek. 600 cfs of mud!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on January 24, 2017, 22:56:00 pm
Quote from: creakycane on January 24, 2017, 21:31:06 pm
As of 8:30 PM on tues 24th, flows show 330 at dam, but almost 900 in Bassett.  How can this be?


Towne Creek is rockin!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on January 25, 2017, 08:34:56 am
Wow, all that from Town Creek and the other little seepages down to Bassett.
Thanks for the info...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on January 25, 2017, 08:57:45 am
Quote from: creakycane on January 25, 2017, 08:34:56 am
Wow, all that from Town Creek and the other little seepages down to Bassett.
Thanks for the info...

Looked at the river this morning. Something's up with that gauge. It's not that high.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Native Fisher on January 25, 2017, 12:08:43 pm
(https://natwebsdww01.cr.usgs.gov/nwisweb/data/img/USGS.02072500.147583.00065..20170119.20170126..0..gif)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 25, 2017, 12:26:35 pm
That gauge is fukkered.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on January 25, 2017, 18:32:36 pm
From Brian Williams:

Smith River report: In response to recent rains the Corps has increased the sluice gate release to 650 cfs. Expect this flow over the next few days then reducing back to 130 cfs. The good news is the increased flow seems to be helping clear out the sediment from the last 4 months of deposition from Philpot to Bassett.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 25, 2017, 18:36:12 pm
Flushing the toilet is good.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on January 25, 2017, 19:10:50 pm
650? There are running 350 now.  Just want to make sure that wasn't a typo.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on January 25, 2017, 19:48:45 pm
it's be interesting to know if that sediment will impact hatches this spring. That might be a Mudwall question.

last year I questioned what harm the free flow release or sluicing was doing.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 25, 2017, 19:59:42 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on January 25, 2017, 19:48:45 pm
it's be interesting to know if that sediment will impact hatches this spring. That might be a Mudwall question.

last year I questioned what harm the free flow release or sluicing was doing.


I've turned over a lot of rocks.
Game on in the next few months.  -+;
Semi-epic.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 25, 2017, 20:51:45 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 25, 2017, 19:59:42 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on January 25, 2017, 19:48:45 pm
it's be interesting to know if that sediment will impact hatches this spring. That might be a Mudwall question.

last year I questioned what harm the free flow release or sluicing was doing.


I've turned over a lot of rocks.
Game on in the next few months.  -+;
Semi-epic.


You used "epic" and continue to reel like a girl.  I ain't trusting anything you say!

"Most female anglers are forced to reel or wind with their dominant hand, while males are more disposed to use their non-dominant in any winding motion. ....................................
.......... While studying non-human primates in the laboratory, Dr. Jonathan Alexander noted the mixed-handedness (the change of hand preference between tasks) of male apes.  Compelling study results and scientific curiosity impelled his research team to explore the handedness of humans in commonplace tasks."   

Handedness in Human and Non-Human Primates, American Behavioral Scientist, June 2009. 




Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 25, 2017, 20:58:51 pm
You are so easily trolled. Epic.

But, for real, get your sorry entomologist ass down there and evaluate.
Take  a fly rod, dick.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 25, 2017, 21:07:07 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on January 25, 2017, 20:58:51 pm
You are so easily trolled. Epic.

But, for real, get your sorry entomologist ass down there and evaluate.
Take  a fly rod, dick.


I miss the Smith.  Truth be known, I miss the free time I had when I was working at VT.  The wife and her wondering-project-mind are killing my retirement!  Fuck HGTV and Pinterest!!!!!

Fish on gentlemen. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: VaTrout on January 25, 2017, 21:15:10 pm
Quote from: driver on January 25, 2017, 19:10:50 pm
650? There are running 350 now.  Just want to make sure that wasn't a typo.

I think that's the gauge with the issue.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on January 25, 2017, 21:20:39 pm
I'm somber because Mary Tyler Moore died today.

meanwhile, I have a bug net and specimen vials I want to put to good use this spring and summer.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 26, 2017, 16:51:21 pm
Looks like The Gauge has been fixed


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on January 26, 2017, 17:31:08 pm
Must have spun the bearings off, from spinning so fast.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on January 26, 2017, 20:31:08 pm
That sediment should increase minerals-->increase bacteria-->increase bugs-->grow some punes

Agree?


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on January 26, 2017, 20:44:33 pm
Well...yet to be seen. Minerals are easy. Organic matter fuels the system.  If it holds nutrients for the bugs, yes.
Not? No. Just one more hindrance for spawners.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on January 26, 2017, 21:38:07 pm
I'd say yes, but how smothered in sediment could a larva or nymph be before it dies?

segue: I know this crick... it's literally full of shit.

insect abundance and diversity is unbelievable.

last time I fished it there were Ephemerella spp., the green type, in huge abundance. Average size was comparable to a size 16, maybe 14 BWO.

Shit works
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on January 27, 2017, 08:16:32 am
A low producing spawn would be a good thing. Too many small fish up there and not enough food.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on February 12, 2017, 19:34:06 pm
Where the Smith reports at? I saw tons of people out today basking in glorious weather....
Caught some damn stocker bows but the browns eluded us:
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on February 12, 2017, 19:34:35 pm
Where the Smith reports at? I saw tons of people out today basking in glorious weather....
Caught some damn stocker bows but the browns eluded us:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/cdabe0f61d3f82be659721c5c1bac0b3.jpg)


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on February 12, 2017, 20:05:38 pm
It was a mad house out there today. Everywhere I went there was someone.

Fishing was slow only ended up with 4.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on February 13, 2017, 01:10:55 am
Tagged em on streamers late in the day, one with size...it was shoulder to shoulder if at all the access points, lots of Raleigh fucks

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ptfranze on February 13, 2017, 12:46:40 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on February 13, 2017, 01:10:55 am
Tagged em on streamers late in the day, one with size...it was shoulder to shoulder if at all the access points, lots of Raleigh fucks

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Missed it this weekend but sounds like I should be glad.  If I want to fish shoulder to shoulder with people I can go to the Davidson ....and I hate the Davidson  :;! :;! :;!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 13, 2017, 20:48:59 pm
too many fuckos figuring out the river. Soon enough. it shall be like shithorn any given saturday.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on February 13, 2017, 21:30:46 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on February 13, 2017, 20:48:59 pm
too many fuckos figuring out the river. Soon enough. it shall be like shithorn any given saturday.


Nothing new for this time of the year. It will remain that way in the stocked sections of the river on weekends until mid-June when they do the last stocking. After that you will have the river to yourself. I keep reminding myself not to fish the Smith on the weekends during the spring - still occasionally violate that rule but usually get frustrated and give it up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 13, 2017, 21:55:01 pm
uh yeah, we did that venture together once or twice. I didn't think the roaches were dumped until next month?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on February 13, 2017, 22:34:47 pm
All the hero shots and sign post pictures of the river and parking areas is drawing a crowd.....used the fish all year and never see more then one or two people a month.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on February 13, 2017, 23:08:19 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on February 13, 2017, 21:55:01 pm
uh yeah, we did that venture together once or twice. I didn't think the roaches were dumped until next month?


Virginia stocks from October through June - With the flows messed up like they have been the past year I suspect there are a lot of Rainbows distributed throughout the system. Only time will tell what it has done to the Browns but the folks at VDGIF suspect it has been good for them. We will see once normal sampling gets going again.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 13, 2017, 23:22:59 pm
I'm going to stock it with 1,000 emerald shiners. I am reading some old literature on the Smith from the 1970s. ( I bet you know where I got it). Huge trout were quite common. Something went wrong...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 13, 2017, 23:25:34 pm
Quote from: 22midge on February 13, 2017, 22:34:47 pm
All the hero shots and sign post pictures of the river and parking areas is drawing a crowd.....used the fish all year and never see more then one or two people a month.


I know longer post pics of anything other than fish. I may have found a few spots via photo metadata.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on February 15, 2017, 08:36:07 am
That bow has par marks. Jus sayin.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on February 15, 2017, 10:52:57 am
Quote from: Dougfish on February 15, 2017, 08:36:07 am
That bow has par marks. Jus sayin.


My thoughts as well.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on February 15, 2017, 11:11:28 am
Quote from: troutfanatic on February 13, 2017, 23:22:59 pm
I'm going to stock it with 1,000 emerald shiners. I am reading some old literature on the Smith from the 1970s. ( I bet you know where I got it). Huge trout were quite common. Something went wrong...


*100,000* ;D
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on February 15, 2017, 11:19:37 am
Quote from: Al on February 13, 2017, 23:08:19 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on February 13, 2017, 21:55:01 pm
uh yeah, we did that venture together once or twice. I didn't think the roaches were dumped until next month?


Virginia stocks from October through June - With the flows messed up like they have been the past year I suspect there are a lot of Rainbows distributed throughout the system. Only time will tell what it has done to the Browns but the folks at VDGIF suspect it has been good for them. We will see once normal sampling gets going again.


Speaking of being good for them..has there been any studies done on a similar size tailwater with 700cfs max(1 gen smith) that you know of? I often wonder if 1500 is just too damn fast for the forage to re-populate with good results. It was nice/eye opening how long the sulphurs lasted this year with lower water and no blasts of 1500..just a coincidence or correlation in your opinion?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on February 15, 2017, 12:17:22 pm
Speaking of the good ol'e days on the Smith (70's and 80's)  here is a pic of what we all missed out on.  I eat lunch with the guy pictured a couple times a week; talk about a character.  He is in his 70's now and doesn't trout fish much anymore but still runs up and down mountains all day in search of grouse.

(//)

He still hasn't gotten over the fact it is now considered to be the "historical state record".  He raised hell to the powers that be over that designation to no avail. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on February 15, 2017, 12:23:38 pm
I do recall a very knowledgeable person mentioning a barrier of sorts was installed some time ago to prevent fish from being sucked out of Philpot, and turned into bite sized morsels.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fin on February 15, 2017, 13:08:18 pm
Quotea barrier of sorts was installed some time ago to prevent fish from being sucked out of Philpot



VDGIF and the Corps have both said no such barrier exists.  The biologists speculate that the alewife shad population declined dramatically due to a natural decrease in lake fertility that occurs as the impoundment ages and the rise of the lakes walleye population.   
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on February 15, 2017, 13:22:43 pm
While I was typing this "Fin" pretty well answered a couple questions - here is what I know (or have heard)

Lots of theories on what happened - no one knows for sure. Probably a combination of causes.

Here is link to the most comprehensive study - it includes a lot of historical data as well  http://www.fishwild.vt.edu/Smith_River/

No one is claiming knowledge of a screen placed in front of the intake to turbines - if it did take place it was many years ago and may have coincided with the introduction of walleyes in the reservoir. One thing we do know is the masses of shad and alewives are not longer present - they are still there but not in the numbers they used to be. Right now it appears the walleyes are experiencing the same fate as browns, ie they have eaten themselves out of house and  home and most are topping out at 16-17 inches. To counter this trend VDGIF is reducing the amount of walleye fry being stocked by half. (Walleye do not spawn in Philpott - it is an artificial fishery)
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on February 15, 2017, 19:20:35 pm
Like him or hate him, Brian Williams told me that there are no such grates or screens, and he has dove the dam and seen the intakes with his very eyes. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, just putting it out there since he does make his living using the resource..

That is good to hear though Al about the walleyes. I like to walleye fish philpott for food in the summer. I know exactly what you're talking about the fish being 16-18in. 5 years ago, 2 keepers was a decent day. Now, you're lucky to catch one over 18". I haven't heard about reducing the stocking #'s. The game warden I talk to frequently said they may decrease the size limit to 16" at some point..maybe thats if reduction doesn't have the effects they want.  A few old timers that use to take me walleye fishing do believe they spawn in the lake because "different species of walleye have been introduced" they claim..I have no idea, but those are the tales I've heard
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 15, 2017, 19:40:27 pm
Ain't but one species of Walleye, but there is Sauger. I don't know if they have Sauger in there or not. I've never fished the lake.

As I am reading these old articles from the 1950s, 60s, 70s, the 'what I don't know" only gets worse.
Did I read correctly that they tried brook trout at one time?

I recall one being obtained during that sampling two Augusts ago. Mudwall said it was probably a trout in the classroom release.

It is definitely a mystery of how this evolved and then sort of dis-evolved over a 60 year period.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on February 15, 2017, 19:51:21 pm
https://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wp-content/uploads/warmwater-2014-walleye-sauger.pdf (https://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wp-content/uploads/warmwater-2014-walleye-sauger.pdf)

Found it..Saugeye
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 15, 2017, 20:02:15 pm
well, that would lead me to believe Sauger are there then  :D
Damn good eating for a freshwater fish.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on February 15, 2017, 23:23:39 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on February 15, 2017, 20:02:15 pm
well, that would lead me to believe Sauger are there then  :D
Damn good eating for a freshwater fish.


I helped sample the walleye/sauger about 2 months ago. Placed my hands on 110 total. Very few were determined to be sauger - George Palmer  told me they are not longer stocking them and eventually all will be gone from the lake. e

Like I previously said - they are all topping out at 16-18 inches. Only 1 in 10 exceeded that. There is no plan to reduce the size limit - they hope by reducing the population the size will adjust itself upward. Like anything else that could change but as of right now it is only wishful thinking on the part of fishermen who are frustrated in not being able to catch a keeper size walleye.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 16, 2017, 11:47:32 am
In both cases, whether it's the river or the lake, it seems a prey species is diminished or absent. This is a consequence of introducing species that wouldn't normally be present and then having them share the same food sources.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 5xTippett on February 16, 2017, 21:19:17 pm
A couple of October's ago when it flooded so bad, everything that was in the lake washed in the river.  I talked to a man that caught a walleye in his flooded back yard with his bare hands.  When the water dropped he said he found several more dead ones stuck in the mud.  It is going to be interesting when the water gets normal and they can shock again.  I also talked to a man who grew up in Bassett and he told me that before they built the sewage treatment plants in Fieldale that every house on the river had septic systems and the caddis were so thick you had to wear a face mask when they were hatching.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: 22midge on February 16, 2017, 22:09:34 pm
bet you had to wear a face mask when they were shitting also......
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 16, 2017, 23:45:49 pm
Quote from: 22midge on February 16, 2017, 22:09:34 pm
bet you had to wear a face mask when they were shitting also......


BOOM! 0:0

- i know a crick...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on February 17, 2017, 06:33:14 am
Yes, and some of you all need to find another place to fish besides Stinkhorn.  Done seen enough trip reports from there.

Brian, fish the last two miles of xxx.  Beautiful creek, large watershed, and a heck of a lot closer.  Takes a little imagination to get to the water.  I suspect there 90 % chance is trout in there.  When yer at the scenic overlook near the Bluestone river, what one can see there is not the Bluestone, but Camp.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on February 17, 2017, 20:04:09 pm
Quote from: Onslow on February 17, 2017, 06:33:14 am
Yes, and some of you all need to find another place to fish besides Stinkhorn.  Done seen enough trip reports from there.

Brian, fish the last two miles of Camp Creek.  Beautiful creek, large watershed, and a heck of a lot closer.  Takes a little imagination to get to the water.  I suspect there 90 % chance is trout in there.  When yer at the scenic overlook near the Bluestone river, what one can see there is not the Bluestone, but Camp.


brother I fished the nasty, 3 times in 2016 and not at all this year. I think you are confusing me with a crazy goon I sometimes fish with who blasts his stuff all over that gear chucker forum you guys linger on.

As for WV? I know plenty of water in the state. I just gained access to a motherlode of streams in central WV that is almost all private, but gets no fishing pressure. I also know the tributaries of the upper cheat very well, as I was once in the WV ARNG and drilled at Camp Dawson.

I
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 27, 2017, 18:29:10 pm


2017 - 16

We got back early from a three day R&R trip to Wilmington, the one fly rod that I did pack was never unfurled. We stayed in the historic downtown. Surprised at the number of bars, coffee shops and restaurants and of course with the warm weather the place was hoppin'.  Great food, loved the char-broiled oysters from the Bourbon Street bar. Fantastic sunset dinner on the Riverwalk at The George.
I didn't take many pics, but here are a few

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Send a msg to a FB friend from grade school, we got together for lunch, haven't seen each other in over 50 years! Far out!

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The plan was to hit the local with the Spork for the evening rise that I had observed last week. He was waiting on some family thing and I headed up alone. I hiked in to the lower reach while keeping an eye on the water for caddis and risers. It was windy and about fifteen degrees cooler than last weekend and I was worried that there wouldn't be as many caddis around. I waded out to check some rocks were they had been congregating and saw a good number of them fluttering about but not in the huge number as before. I had rigged up at the car, a 12 foot six times leader and elk hair and was determined to catch fish on the surface. But with no risers I sight I thought about switching over, but I watched and waited, there were caddis dapping the surface laying eggs and I saw a few of them floating by, so I stripped off some line and cast up into some likely runs. A trout rose, I was encouraged and continued on. Moving around I spied a rise. I was on it, the first cast was a little short, cast again and watched the fly float on the rippled water, the fish rose, it nose came out of the water as it snatched the fly, I set the hook, it was perfect and I was amazed at the simple beauty of it as if it was the first time. It was a good fish, putting a good bend in the rod and then, nothing, broke off, fuckity fuck fuck! I regrouped and tied on another fly and cast again and got this pune to rise.

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I waited and waited and the sun set, the evening chill began to set in as the light left the water, if it was going to happen it was going to be soon. I waited and hoped and then cast blind hoping beyond hope to entice a fish to rise. It just didn't happen. I stayed fifteen minutes past sunset to no avail.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on February 27, 2017, 18:45:55 pm
As usual great photos Woolly.  'c; bd;0 'c; bd;0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on February 27, 2017, 18:49:59 pm
Nice! Good times.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dee-Vo on February 27, 2017, 18:56:14 pm
That's a fun area. Been a couple years since I was down there soaking it up.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on February 28, 2017, 10:28:43 am
I haven't spent a ton of time in Wilmington but it reminded me of a smaller Savannah.  Cool little spot.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 12, 2017, 12:32:03 pm


https://youtu.be/ATDEtzAcTg0

2017 - 20

I should have known better, but work was done for the day and there was still time to get to the river for a couple of hours. I drove up past farms with freshly plowed earth that reminded my of a Grand Wood painting. I went up to check the conditions at puneville despite the 20 knot winds. The resident gods greeted me and I fed them a god biscuit while I ate some leftover Udon noodels with shiitake, kale and Andouille.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2017/3-17/031117-2.jpg)

A bluebird flew by and landed in a nearby tree, here is a crappy photo of it.

(http://www.brfff.com/btwc/ff2017/3-17/031117-3.jpg)

On my last trip my RIO Avid Sink Tip line crapped out, I attempted a loop to loop repair and began tossing a small streamed on the line. Riverbum told me I would hate it and after casting and retrieving the connection through the guides, I came to the conclusion that in fact it did suk.

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I stumbled across a discount table at the grocery store and couldn't leave without getting a 5200 mha battery and a selfiestick for five bucks! So y'all will have to suffer.

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BWOs were popping off and a few fish were hitting the surface but I couldn't entice them so I drank a beer and waited.

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The wind really picked up and I called it quits after another hour of fruitless fishing. I think this is going to be a berry berry good year for bugs.

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The field is plowed, best time to look for artifacts... jis say'in.



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 12, 2017, 12:43:46 pm
Things will start progressing after next week. I have some loop to loop sink tips. They suck, too.
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 23, 2017, 09:28:19 am


2017 - 24


https://youtu.be/kUtZkKAZg9Y
Happy Birthday to Dave Grisman!

Took a mid-week trip to punetown after taking care of some morning business. Step by step of the day. New leader, perfection knot loop to loop handshake, fine and far, blood knot with spit, Pitzen knot. Three were enough bwos flying about and a few fish were rising, so I tried the dry fly thing for a while.

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The fish weren't looking up so I took a lunch break with the last of the corned beef and cabbage.

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Worked the water and finally switch over to nymphing.

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Found some signs of spring.

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Nymphing paid off with the usual suspects.

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The End.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on March 23, 2017, 11:28:30 am
Punetastic
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on March 23, 2017, 12:20:34 pm
Go boss.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: itieuglyflies on March 23, 2017, 19:08:38 pm
I liked the order....food, beer, then fish..good stuff all around.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on March 23, 2017, 20:28:02 pm
Bring back those little ones next time, I'm on a smoked trout kick

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: RiverbumCO on March 23, 2017, 22:41:35 pm
Give me that fucked line and I'll fix it.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 05, 2017, 16:38:47 pm


https://youtu.be/bCROkG4SKao

I hadn't visited the bitch in a while. I waited for some of the rain stain to come off and hit it for a few hours earlier today.
I pulled into the parking lot and Woolly, Al and TF were there suiting up. Wadda fuk? Ends up the two old farts were helping Brian with some stream bug study for his schooling. I walked in to fish and they drove higher on the river for their strange san juan worm hatch thingie.

The water still had a slight tinge to it and wildflowers were getting going in the woods and along the bank. Decided to throw small streamers/wets with a midge dropper. I had a fish slash on the streamer as I was stripping off line. That should have been a good sign. Right?

(http://i.imgur.com/gWaj9bt.jpg)

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Soundly high holed!

(http://i.imgur.com/f5vqMJ8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nmAUlOW.jpg)

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I was getting hits on the slumpbuster, but the punes weren't getting the hook. Just whacking the rabbit strip?
Switched to a bugger and wet flies and a whispier midge. Started picking a few more fish, but it was far from a blistering pace.
Drank a beer, listened to the military burning fuel with numerous helicopter and Ospery flyovers. 

(http://i.imgur.com/ZfrYdx2.jpg)

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I'll let TF give you the bug report. He might be another Mudwall in the making.  :laugh:
Nothing of size. Missed a bunch, SDR'd a few, but thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Got back to the car and got out of the waders. The three amigos showed up to sample and fish where I left off.
Here's hoping those fish will looking up more, soon. 

0:0


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: rbphoto on April 06, 2017, 07:58:14 am
Time to tie up some articulated streamers, Doug?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on April 06, 2017, 09:18:51 am
U need one of deez.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 06, 2017, 09:31:44 am
Stinger woulda worked.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on April 06, 2017, 09:53:26 am
It was a buggy, not so fishy sort of day. Diversity  abounds, but I'm no entomologist by any stretch of the imagination. Got some great samples. Many thanks to Woolly and Al for the assistance. I have class now, so I'll toss some pics up later.

Greatest revelation?
Recently stocked rainbow trout eat didymo, tree bark, moss, rocks and leaf litter. I believe the phenomena is called search image, and they don't have it quite right, yet.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 06, 2017, 11:29:22 am
Quote from: driver on April 06, 2017, 09:18:51 am
U need one of deez.

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Glad to see the Smith patrons revisit and embrace the beautiful application of using bait.  I also have rediscovered the wonder and gratification of using something other than flies.   
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 06, 2017, 13:19:32 pm


Drove on up to puneville to help TF do some kick sampling of the river. Al was there too.

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TF taking water temperature and recording measurements

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Pickin off some bugs

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Odd creature here, any ideas?

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More didymo than bugs

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Recording observations while standing in the stream

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Documenting the collection of bugs

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stonflies

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caddisflies

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May apples

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Diptera?

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May apple blossom

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Busy bees, hey Dougfish, what kind of tree is this?

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caddisfly

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Having a lunch break at the homestead..

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Cheers!

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After lunch we moved on down to another location and fished first before kicking up some samples.

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I fished a dry, it was challenging but I managed 8 punes to hand...

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Obligatory gear shot!

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Stomach pump samples for research.. mostly nymphs, but the occasional sulfur dun.

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Al went upstream and I took a beer break after catching sample subjects for TF

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Invasive or native, I don't have a clue...

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But I do know that these bluebells are native.

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More research

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Al enjoying the day...

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And more punes to hand
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What a crew...

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After splitting up I cooked up some dinner and drank beer and thought about making another trip to Alaska...

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About 30 minutes out I lost a serpentine belt, and waited by the side of the road.

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Turned out that the water pump had failed and will be repaired under warranty.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 06, 2017, 13:39:09 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 06, 2017, 13:19:32 pm


Odd creature here, any ideas?

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Diptera?

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Asellidae = sow bug, cress bug - very cool and most excellent food item if in great numbers

Isoptera = termite w/ equal length wings

Plus you got mayflies in vial of stoneflies and other FUs but I give you all an A- B- for effort and fortitude.  The only reason I give you a minus is the high tech bullshit thermometer I think I see in TF's hand.

Good job guys; now do any of you have hints on digging worms and catching crickets?

Had to change your grade after seeing the stomach pump.  Your group project grade would have been a solid A- IF you had kept the damned tiny browns (as recommended by biologists), gutted them, opened their stomachs, and recorded your findings.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 06, 2017, 15:42:31 pm
QuoteBusy bees, hey Dougfish, what kind of tree is this?


Eleagnus, invasive shrub.  n!n

Little white flower was our native Foamflower, Tiarella.

I spy a mayfly in the caddis tube, also.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on April 06, 2017, 21:50:51 pm
Yes the sample vials were all mixed by location. I sort them later when they go in isopropyl alcohol.

We got an eclectic mix of Plecoptera, Ephemeroptera, and Tricoptera. There were other sow bugs too. Unfamiliar with taxa on them though. Not going to deep here, just order-family level.
We got quite a few annelids too. I'm surprised they can tolerate that water.
No crawdads.
Also, this time there was no Megaloptera. I found one on a previous trip. Driver gets credit for the ID.

Midges were in the air, but we found very few in the seine.

I was also pretty sure the mystery "spinner" was Isoptera. They seem to be fairly abundant this time of year.

Yes my thermometer is IR, I also have a conventional one Mud. I was being lazy.

As for culling from the herd, that's coming. I dissected a few rainbows in the sink last night. I have to look at competition a bit. I'd say a diet of didymo, bark, rocks, leaf detritus and moss isn't much competition. Just checking a block. Most of my references on that matter say hatchery over wild is marginal competition at best.

One thing of interest was a beaut of a stonefly that Keith found. About 40mm long, a dark chocolate colored dorsal region with a nice golden belly and dark segmentation.

I'm still messing with pics and sorting bugs.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on April 07, 2017, 08:28:25 am
Here are a few of the better photos I took on our "bugging expedition"
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 07, 2017, 09:32:43 am
Quote from: troutfanatic on April 06, 2017, 21:50:51 pm
There were other sow bugs too. Unfamiliar with taxa on them though. Not going to deep here, just order-family .....


There are really only 2-3 genera of importance in the family of aquatic sow bugs, and they pretty much all look alike and serve the same ecological role - so don't sweat the genera.

If they are there in great numbers, or are increasing in numbers, then every Smith River angler should get a permanent erection.   Honestly, I don't remember ever seeing a sow bug in the Smith, but I recently forgot my anniversary and likely will forget my wife's birthday, so cut me some slack on remembering shit.  Purging the mind of worthless information has been awe-inspiring, but I've screwed the pooch multiple times on what info to purge. 

Back to your boner -inducing critter.  Sow bugs, along with Amphipods, were the life's blood of the SOHO years ago before the labyrinth dam - so abundant in the Fontinalis moss that we had a plan to transplant the moss with all the crustaceans, in aerated coolers of water, up to the Smith.  Multiple state and federal laws would be broken.  Bottom line is we did not have enough hair on our peaches to follow through.

I hope they have exploded, or will explode, in the Smith.  You guys will be very happy. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 07, 2017, 09:39:09 am
You will find scuds in my fly box. Been using them for years. Weighted, unweighted, different sizes.
But hey, they crush it on bluelines, too. Overlooked tie.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 07, 2017, 09:59:28 am
Quote from: Dougfish on April 07, 2017, 09:39:09 am
You will find scuds in my fly box. Been using them for years. Weighted, unweighted, different sizes.
But hey, they crush it on bluelines, too. Overlooked tie.


But, they are pink and orange and god-knows-what colors, and there's never been a pink or orange scud until you put it into the preservative.  And the web photos, I bet my left nut, of the colored ones, are of preserved specimens. 

Plus I bet most of yours has a fucking bead for a head - very natural - NOT!!!

You're fishing a glorified mini egg fly so deal with it.

Don't pull a Big J or a Cowboy on us and try to justify something like a green weenie as being natural.  AND learn to reel with the correct hand!!

I still love you man!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 07, 2017, 10:06:38 am
With all those fat caddis I'm tying up some green mop flies!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on April 07, 2017, 10:47:32 am
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I see some green.   :P
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 07, 2017, 11:41:19 am
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 07, 2017, 09:59:28 am

But, they are pink and orange and god-knows-what colors, and there's never been a pink or orange scud until you put it into the preservative.  And the web photos, I bet my left nut, of the colored ones, are of preserved specimens. 

Plus I bet most of yours has a fucking bead for a head - very natural - NOT!!!

You're fishing a glorified mini egg fly so deal with it.

Don't pull a Big J or a Cowboy on us and try to justify something like a green weenie as being natural.  AND learn to reel with the correct hand!!

I still love you man!!


Don't be a hater, spin/worm wizard. Think outside the canvas tent.  -+;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 07, 2017, 12:02:28 pm
Quote from: Big J on April 07, 2017, 10:47:32 am
I see some green.   :P


Yes, you see green.  The caddis is even called the green rock worm, BUT it ain't this green!!!  Don't attempt to bullshit a bullshitter.  I've meticulously thrashed through the match the critter, match the hatch puzzle, to the point of making enemies, losing friends, and alienating family.  Now, I am proud to say that my only interest in macroinvertebrates is their utility in disclosing the quality of waters  -- tell me a story and nothing more.

I'm just jabbing you gents.  Cold as hell here, area like being in a wind tunnel, and tomorrow is turkey day.  Found my camo shirt and jeans, working on my calls, and hoping for a sunny, windless Saturday morning.

Peace, peckerwoods!!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 07, 2017, 12:25:16 pm
I hope she sewed you a pack for that cruiser frame before you forgot about the anniversary, Mudster.  :laugh:
Wind blown and cold here, but not Mountain Grove cold. Peace, out. Gotta tie some more "inchworms" and scuds.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on April 08, 2017, 17:48:40 pm
Hey Mud.

I need a better preservative recommendation. The school won't let me have Carosafe (EPA and OSHA issue). I'm currently using 70% isopropyl alcohol. This seems to denature the hell out of the internal proteins of my samples, pretty much leaving me with a chitin shuck that loses all color. Preferably looking for something I can easily and legally purchase.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on April 08, 2017, 18:53:14 pm
Formalin does wonders but it's toxic as hell.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on April 08, 2017, 18:53:46 pm
95% ethly alcohol is also a pretty good alternative
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: The Dude on April 08, 2017, 18:58:57 pm
Salt & Vinegar.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on April 08, 2017, 20:47:40 pm
Lol John... pickled nymphs.

G, can I even find Formalin easily? I considered it, but I thought the EPA was all over that.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: wildmttwalleye on April 08, 2017, 21:08:38 pm
Can you get it through the science department
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on April 08, 2017, 21:31:52 pm
Nah, the department chair is real iffy about that stuff. I am pretty sure all specimens are kept in Carosafe (not sure what the hell it is, possibly formalin) but he won't let it out of school because of EPA and OSHA laws. 70% isopropyl is ruining the specimens though. I just gotta take better pics. I have more seine events on the horizon because I need lower river data and biomass.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 09, 2017, 10:19:42 am
Quote from: troutfanatic on April 08, 2017, 17:48:40 pm
Hey Mud.

I need a better preservative recommendation. The school won't let me have Carosafe (EPA and OSHA issue). I'm currently using 70% isopropyl alcohol. This seems to denature the hell out of the internal proteins of my samples, pretty much leaving me with a chitin shuck that loses all color. Preferably looking for something I can easily and legally purchase.


Boiling in water will fix the proteins, I've heard.  Adding a drop or two of Glycerin to vial will preserve color temporarily they say.

I preserved everything in 70-75% ethanol.  I was never concerned with internal structures or retaining color.   These were bulk samples, which required removal of specimens from leaves, other woody debris, sand, etc.  However, I was a bit more careful with individual specimens used for reference collection - fresh pickling when the body juices leeched from large individuals.   Again, preserving color was not that important for the work that I did.

Addressing the proteins, I would not wish that gel-jockey shit (or whatever they're doing these days) on a broke dicked dog!  I had one very brief experience many moons ago when I tried to distinguish several populations of the Isonychia mayflies from various locations through electrophoresis.  It was for some damned worthless grade in some damned worthless insect physiology lab.  I forgot all that crap as quickly as I could; it was a fill-and-flush class and the preservative used was flushed as well.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on April 09, 2017, 11:06:28 am
Holy shit  :o

when you say electrophoresis, you mean you were using protein breakdowns to ID a species? Tell me that was grad school? I dig me some molecular biology, but not that much. I know VT has one hell of a molecular lab. My genetics professor (also micro for one of two semesters) went there, researched there and is still somewhat associated with them.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on April 09, 2017, 19:51:00 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 07, 2017, 10:06:38 am
With all those fat caddis I'm tying up some green mop flies!


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Been there, done that...
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If you need some green, i can send you some mop hide.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on April 10, 2017, 19:13:52 pm
I happened to look at the temp trace on USGS Smith R in Bassett, and noticed today it has peaked about 70F.  Is this correct?

Seems kind of high for 205 CFS of water in Bassett (peaking at 70F) when 165 CFS is coming from Philpott at 49F.

Either the warm weather is really warming the water, or that is some mighty warm feeder water (Town Cr etc).   Maybe this is how it always is?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on April 10, 2017, 20:56:56 pm
That gauge has had some issues in that past.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on April 11, 2017, 11:35:15 am
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 06, 2017, 13:39:09 pm
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 06, 2017, 13:19:32 pm


Odd creature here, any ideas?

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Asellidae = sow bug, cress bug - very cool and most excellent food item if in great numbers


Funny thing is I've been fishing a small green/brown scud for a number of years there with good success especially on some big stockers that allude others. Also have found that a small cress bug works as well. Many old timers refuse to partake because it was told to me "no scuds live here, so why fish one". Oh well, more for me i guess.

What was the deal back in the day with trying to transport some scuds from the soho? Why couldn't you just culture some..they are easy!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 12, 2017, 09:01:18 am
Quote from: streamereater_101691 on April 11, 2017, 11:35:15 am

What was the deal back in the day with trying to transport some scuds from the soho? Why couldn't you just culture some..they are easy!



There was no "deal" because I am sure there is a regulation that forbids introducing non-indigenous critters.  Plus, there's likely another law prohibiting the transplant of aquatic vegetation and critters across state lines.  None of this really amounts to much since both the Smith and the SOHO are human-made, managed ecosystems, and seem to be perfect candidates for such a scenario. 

Probably the bottom line why there was no "deal' is the fact that all of us that discussed such an action were huge chicken shits. 

Rear away, and then dump them in the Smith.  Just make sure to start with hardy individuals of a species that might work in the Smith.  If you get caught, simply tell them that you have permission from Brian Williams and Cricket.   
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on April 12, 2017, 10:46:56 am
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 12, 2017, 09:01:18 am
Quote from: streamereater_101691 on April 11, 2017, 11:35:15 am

What was the deal back in the day with trying to transport some scuds from the soho? Why couldn't you just culture some..they are easy!



There was no "deal" because I am sure there is a regulation that forbids introducing non-indigenous critters.  Plus, there's likely another law prohibiting the transplant of aquatic vegetation and critters across state lines.  None of this really amounts to much since both the Smith and the SOHO are human-made, managed ecosystems, and seem to be perfect candidates for such a scenario. 

Probably the bottom line why there was no "deal' is the fact that all of us that discussed such an action were huge chicken shits.


Makes perfect sense. Its all fun and games until someone gets a felony.
 

Quote]Rear away, and then dump them in the Smith.  Just make sure to start with hardy individuals of a species that might work in the Smith.  If you get caught, simply tell them that you have permission from Brian Williams and Cricket.


I was thinking azteca's. I use to culture them for my dwarf frogs and salamanders. I think I have a buddy who has a starter clutch in fact. Any ideas about how many would need to be introduced before they get going?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 12, 2017, 11:44:44 am
Quote from: streamereater_101691 on April 12, 2017, 10:46:56 am

I was thinking azteca's. I use to culture them for my dwarf frogs and salamanders. I think I have a buddy who has a starter clutch in fact. Any ideas about how many would need to be introduced before they get going?


Hyalella azteca is certainly cosmopolitan, but if you're going to the effort and gamble the risk, then I'd shoot for one of the larger Gammarus species.  Hyalella ain't that big. 


Big scud = good scud
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on April 13, 2017, 11:48:23 am
FWIW. Heard a rumor that the dam was fixed but they lost their contract to sell power. Supposedly they may sign a new one in October. You know how rumors go though. Could be BS.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on April 13, 2017, 12:49:31 pm
I'd be ok if they left it like it has been.

Btw, when we going for a bote ride?

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Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on April 13, 2017, 13:11:10 pm
Quote from: driver on April 13, 2017, 12:49:31 pm
I'd be ok if they left it like it has been.

Btw, when we going for a bote ride?

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Yeah I wish they'd just use it to control lake levels and run about 180cfs all the time. May have an empty seat this weekend.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 13, 2017, 14:46:44 pm
Thats a very interesting rumor.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on April 13, 2017, 21:40:33 pm
Thursday trouts

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 15, 2017, 10:29:22 am


2017 - 36

I was asleep shortly after getting home from the shad trip, and up early the Friday morning and off to work. Got a good handle on the project by two in the afternoon and after taking care of a few other things headed off to the upper river to see what was up. I had a feeling that the sulfurs might be starting up.

There were a few fish rising and bwos, caddis and the occasional sulfur coming off. I changed patterns several times before deciding that twitching a puff daddy was the ticket. I had only two in the box, one got left in a tree and the other one finally just wore out, lost all its puff! They were watching that fly and when it twitched they would run it down moving a foot or more to catch it!

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It was a peaceful and grand evening despite the mosquitoes, and it is only going to get better in the coming weeks.
If you go, be sure to have some puff daddies and magic powder stuff, jis say'in, oh an be sure to twitch it....


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 16, 2017, 10:42:37 am


2017 - 37

Worked from 8 till 1, then planned to go fish, but first a stop to tie up some puff daddies.

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The biologist want us to cull the punes on the river 'cause there are just too many fish and not enough food for them to grow at a respectable rate.

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Flung the fly that was on the rod, first cast.

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My happy place in 50 shades of green.

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Hendricksons, sulfurs, and midges

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Whacked a couple and fried 'em up

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Coming into town, I hit Business 40 west, a.k.a. Salem Parkway or old I-40 and just after I got going down the hill just past the 5th street exit where there is a concrete wall dividing east and west lanes, I'm traveling in the right lane at about 65 mph and I see the car up ahead in the left lane veer suddenly into the right lane, and I see a car traveling the wrong direction on the shoulder next to the wall. Holy crap! I was getting ready to call 911 when all sorts of cops were headed down the east bound side ....



Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 16, 2017, 11:17:09 am
Good stuff, Keif. And lovely nature shots, too. Wrong way drivers are one of my biggest fears. One of the reasons I watch whats happening far down the road on highways.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on April 17, 2017, 16:06:19 pm
I may have to give you a photo credit for that stonefly. Driver already got one for the chub puking brown.

Finals are creeping, keep in the loop on what the picky little shits are eating.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 17, 2017, 17:12:30 pm
Kudos on keeping and eating a couple, and the grape seed oil.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on April 17, 2017, 17:32:21 pm
I thought you might dig that old school stringer he's using.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 19, 2017, 10:49:06 am


The Bootleg Bootleg Podcast: That 70's Episode (https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/thebootlegbootlegpodcast/episodes/2015-11-07T21_05_54-08_00?utm_source=web-player&utm_medium=episode-link)

2017 - 38

Early call this morning for a Project Impact Annual Meeting. (http://www.projectimpact.ws/) got me up at 5:30 and the meeting was over by 10:30. I was on the road to my local pune filled river. I iced up the Yeti with plans to harvest a limit of 6 for da Spork's smoker.  There were two cars in the lot when I arrived one guy came out as I was suiting up. "See any sulfurs?" I inquired as I continued to pull my waders on.  "I don't know any bugs, I was fishing a Mr. Rapidan and a Pheasant Tail. Caught 4 on the top and one on the nymph. What's a sulfur?" he asked.  I was shaking my head to myself while forming a reply, "Little yellow bugs!" I exclaimed. I stashed a few ice cold brews in my vest and headed off to the stream as I wished the other angler a good afternoon.
I was a bit cloudy and I was wondering if the bugs would come off this afternoon. I walked among the trees along the bank searching for morels among the may apples. None were to be found, and when I stepped into the water a bit above my favorite I saw another fisherman working my run. Awe crap, hmmm, he's moving on downstream, I'll just drink a beer and wait for him to get off of my water.


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So I sat down and popped open a Ballast Point Grunion Pale Ale (91 BA Score) and watched the water for rising fish and bugs while keeping an eye on the other angler. I think he was swinging a nymph or soft hackle and I didn't see him land a fish. I rinsed the empty beer can with river water and stashed it in my vest as I waded out into stream. Worked the same fly that was still on my line from the other day. Got a fish to rise but it missed the fly and I worked from near to far. Dropped the fly in to the eddy up against the far bank and a trout turned and chased it down as I twitched it. It was about 3 o'clock and the sulfurs were starting to pop off in sparse numbers, but the trouts were apparently looking for them and they couldn't resist the twitched fly. 

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I just couldn't bring myself to kill these little jewels..

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Probably the best fish of the day...

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Nice spot!

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After catching close to three dozen of these punes I called it quits and headed on home for the trifecta.

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I just love these old trees along the river bank.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on April 19, 2017, 12:51:21 pm
Nice. Good on ya for hitting it before it muddies up.  'c;
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on April 20, 2017, 23:59:36 pm
My second best Smith fish....not a heavily fished section, not a monster, but definitely out of poon class. Jaw started to kype a bit, but does not show well:

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on April 21, 2017, 10:34:41 am
Quote from: IFStultz on April 13, 2017, 11:48:23 am
FWIW. Heard a rumor that the dam was fixed but they lost their contract to sell power. Supposedly they may sign a new one in October. You know how rumors go though. Could be BS.


Just a rumor according to rocky. Looks like cold water may be back in july or august as of now.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on April 21, 2017, 12:44:17 pm
Quote from: streamereater_101691 on April 21, 2017, 10:34:41 am
Quote from: IFStultz on April 13, 2017, 11:48:23 am
FWIW. Heard a rumor that the dam was fixed but they lost their contract to sell power. Supposedly they may sign a new one in October. You know how rumors go though. Could be BS.


Just a rumor according to rocky. Looks like cold water may be back in july or august as of now.



What I'm most interested in is what kind of flows the lower will get during the weekends.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on April 21, 2017, 12:46:17 pm
I think its going to be like it was before it broke. I think it was 250cfs from 10am-3pm Sat an Sun

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on April 21, 2017, 12:58:55 pm
Quote from: driver on April 21, 2017, 12:46:17 pm
I think its going to be like it was before it broke. I think it was 250cfs from 10am-3pm Sat an Sun

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Now I have to figure out what's  the lowest flow you can float it on. I know I could get down the upper at 180cfs on my old boat.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on April 22, 2017, 09:22:02 am
Quote from: IFStultz on April 21, 2017, 12:44:17 pm
Quote from: streamereater_101691 on April 21, 2017, 10:34:41 am
Quote from: IFStultz on April 13, 2017, 11:48:23 am
FWIW. Heard a rumor that the dam was fixed but they lost their contract to sell power. Supposedly they may sign a new one in October. You know how rumors go though. Could be BS.


Just a rumor according to rocky. Looks like cold water may be back in july or august as of now.



QuoteWhat I'm most interested in is what kind of flows the lower will get during the weekends.




Whatever the minimum flow is plus 450 when it catches the lower dam. It won't get there until at least 3:30-4 anyway..

The full moon night float from 6pm to 12 will be fun in the summer
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on April 22, 2017, 12:29:56 pm
Quote from: streamereater_101691 on April 22, 2017, 09:22:02 am
Quote from: IFStultz on April 21, 2017, 12:44:17 pm
Quote from: streamereater_101691 on April 21, 2017, 10:34:41 am
Quote from: IFStultz on April 13, 2017, 11:48:23 am
FWIW. Heard a rumor that the dam was fixed but they lost their contract to sell power. Supposedly they may sign a new one in October. You know how rumors go though. Could be BS.


Just a rumor according to rocky. Looks like cold water may be back in july or august as of now.



QuoteWhat I'm most interested in is what kind of flows the lower will get during the weekends.




Whatever the minimum flow is plus 450 when it catches the lower dam. It won't get there until at least 3:30-4 anyway..

The full moon night float from 6pm to 12 will be fun in the summer



Not if the Smith River fog is out. Learned that last summer.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 04, 2017, 10:36:37 am
1. Smith if running strong and clear at 700cfs
2. Sulfurs are popping off
3. Trouts are rising in some spots... mostly where you can't get to them
4. Wading isn't much fun right now
5. can't wait for the water to get back down to 160 or so...


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 04, 2017, 11:41:07 am
I sucked up and recently got on the list for advance notifications. Once they get back to normal this will give us a heads up 3-4 days prior to the announcement being updated. Right now it gives us notice a day or more before they make a change in the sluice gates. 

Up to Woolly - I suggest a separate threat, or if you want I can just post it here on the "Smith - Continued" thread

Right now they are sluicing at 650cfs. Add a few cfs coming out of Town Creek and it is about 700cfs as reported by Woolly.

They indicated there would be a further reduction toward the end of this week if there were no significant weather events. I anticipate an email today or tomorrow with an update.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Native Fisher on May 04, 2017, 13:03:09 pm
1"+ of rain predicted for tonight and tomorrow.  Is that significant?
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 04, 2017, 13:18:12 pm
Quote from: Native Fisher on May 04, 2017, 13:03:09 pm
1"+ of rain predicted for tonight and tomorrow.  Is that significant?

I'm heading up to the mtns the other side of you. 1.75" forecast. Plus showers. How dumb am I?

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Big J on May 04, 2017, 13:42:50 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on May 04, 2017, 13:18:12 pm
Quote from: Native Fisher on May 04, 2017, 13:03:09 pm
1"+ of rain predicted for tonight and tomorrow.  Is that significant?

I'm heading up to the mtns the other side of you. 1.75" forecast. Plus showers. How dumb am I?

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You are one step below a moron. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Native Fisher on May 04, 2017, 13:50:43 pm
Quote from: Big J on May 04, 2017, 13:42:50 pm
I'm heading up to the mtns the other side of you. 1.75" forecast. Plus showers. How dumb am I?


You are one step below a moron.
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That's being generous, J.  Bro, you are  -+;.  But you deserve it because you fish too damn much. 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 04, 2017, 19:27:43 pm
Btw, fishing/camping with J. Lol.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on May 04, 2017, 19:39:03 pm
I expect nothing less than a 14" Appalachian Char from the two of you.  Hit it!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutrus on May 05, 2017, 14:57:44 pm
I heard them big ones will chase big streamers when the water gets up below Martinsville D. Go get 'em men.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 05, 2017, 20:47:49 pm
Official update (Not that you need the official word if you have seen Troutrus photo)

680 cfs coming out of Philpott for next few days - maybe more depending on this crazy weather.

For those of you thinking about chasing stripers at Weldon - again depending on significant weather events here is the plan - they said they will have another update on Monday.

Sat     35k
Sun     35k
Mon     33k
Tue     33k
Wed     26k
Thu     16k
Fri       9k
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 05, 2017, 20:51:36 pm
I think they already bumped Philpot to 12 or 1350...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutrus on May 06, 2017, 08:23:33 am
Rollin, rollin, rollin.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 06, 2017, 09:09:50 am
When I was there the other day there was an old geezer standing in the current tossing lead and a worm! I expect he thought Leroy would be found, I didn't see him catch anything!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 06, 2017, 09:18:42 am
When I was there the other day there was an old geezer standing in the current tossing lead and a worm! I expect he thought Leroy would be found, I didn't see him catch anything!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: streamereater_101691 on May 08, 2017, 10:44:36 am
No TR here, but wanted to give everyone a heads up on something. I went to philpott yesterday afternoon for a few hrs. There is more grass on the main lake points(15-30ft of water) than I've ever seen(Milfoil and pondweed mostly). The amounts that the old timers use to talk about growing in the lake. Hopefully this will help the overall fish population of the lake and therefore help the river below. I know recent rains have had to infiltrate the lake with nutrients(good). Just wanted to give everyone a heads up about maybe some good shit..
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on May 13, 2017, 18:53:53 pm

Are you going to use Grateful Dead songs on everything you post?

Yeah, probably, maybe...

Tour starts next week and guess who don't have a real job? But I got a nice pension   /'/

https://youtu.be/ZzlNWPVBcfk

Some work by Al, got me linked up with the VDGIF crew to help me out with my graduation research project. I am thankful for Al, George, Scott and Ty for their help on this. Not trying to reinvent the wheel, just do something cool, have some fun and graduate.

I was on a trip fishing with some friends (see TR elsewhere) when I got a text from George. Have no fear, help IS on the way. I hauled ass across 58 and we launched the boat.

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/DSCN4074_zpsi5x0f3zy.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/DSCN4074_zpsi5x0f3zy.jpg.html)

It wasn't long before we had a full live well.

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/DSCN4090_zpskuotlia1.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/DSCN4090_zpskuotlia1.jpg.html)

got lengths and weights.

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/length_zpsbpfucm7f.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/length_zpsbpfucm7f.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/weight_zpsbkvamd7y.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/weight_zpsbkvamd7y.jpg.html)

Outliers?

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(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/outlier_zpsqieqdsop.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/outlier_zpsqieqdsop.jpg.html)

Both hatchery queens were well past 20".

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/DSCN4094_zpsdvyfyvwm.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/DSCN4094_zpsdvyfyvwm.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/DSCN4092_zpsczw2wzfq.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/DSCN4092_zpsczw2wzfq.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/IMG_0681_zpsff9bqrt2.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/IMG_0681_zpsff9bqrt2.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/DSCN4086_zpsc9yf0w1b.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/DSCN4086_zpsc9yf0w1b.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/DSCN4076_zpsif6vamo9.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/DSCN4076_zpsif6vamo9.jpg.html)

straight up biomass.

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/IMG_0653_zpscxu2zdei.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/IMG_0653_zpscxu2zdei.jpg.html)

trash

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(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/IMG_0689_zpszoip1xa5.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/IMG_0689_zpszoip1xa5.jpg.html)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/troutfanatic/DSCN4089_zpseoin6kjh.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/troutfanatic/media/DSCN4089_zpseoin6kjh.jpg.html)

Hi flows...

Summary: 3 hours of sampling, a few hundred fish, ample forage in the sample too. One Bass and one bullhead, plus a bazillion suckers. at least 2 dozen browns were over 20", the biggest was around 25".






Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on May 14, 2017, 20:24:22 pm
Glad I was able to link TF up with these folks. They can always use an outside look and free labor. I suspect this run with the electric fly rod was an eye opener.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Fishbug on May 16, 2017, 22:29:51 pm
Very cool stuff.


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Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on May 18, 2017, 11:58:01 am
Floated from the 666 bridge to the Great rd. takeout yesterday afternoon. Sulphur hatch was on and caught a pile of fish. Good to see fish rising with the water up. Took my buddies daughter out with us for the first time. Fun day. Leaving for Henry's Fork and possibly a side trip to the Missouri Saturday morning.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on May 18, 2017, 12:10:38 pm
Quote from: IFStultz on May 18, 2017, 11:58:01 am
Floated from the 666 bridge to the Great rd. takeout yesterday afternoon. Sulphur hatch was on and caught a pile of fish. Good to see fish rising with the water up. Took my buddies daughter out with us for the first time. Fun day. Leaving for Henry's Fork and possibly a side trip to the Missouri Saturday morning.


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Any mentionable specimens?

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on May 18, 2017, 12:37:07 pm
I can't believe wooly is not there as we speak.  He chose carp.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: IFStultz on May 18, 2017, 12:41:53 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on May 18, 2017, 12:10:38 pm
Quote from: IFStultz on May 18, 2017, 11:58:01 am
Floated from the 666 bridge to the Great rd. takeout yesterday afternoon. Sulphur hatch was on and caught a pile of fish. Good to see fish rising with the water up. Took my buddies daughter out with us for the first time. Fun day. Leaving for Henry's Fork and possibly a side trip to the Missouri Saturday morning.


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Any mentionable specimens?

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It's the upper, so nothing huge but the fish look a little bigger then usual up there. The higher flows are improving the whole river. Gonna suck when it drops back to 35cfs for the minimal.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on May 18, 2017, 12:45:00 pm
Don't underestimate the upper river. Those sample pics were from above MV.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 18, 2017, 12:50:36 pm
Quote from: driver on May 18, 2017, 12:37:07 pm
I can't believe wooly is not there as we speak.  He chose carp.

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I'll be in his run later.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ryguy on May 18, 2017, 17:06:20 pm
Nice.  I need to get back down there with the sulphur hatch.  Supposed to be a great weekend!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 18, 2017, 22:43:30 pm


Fishing tomorrow. This is a preview TR? Teaser?
Met a club member at the river at 4. Got down before the water started to fall and found a guy in THE run. Good on him for beating us.  'c;
Went through the jocularities and moved on. Not one of you assholes.
Went down below and got rigged up. E went low. I kept our boy in sight.
Sulfurs were coming off in small waves. Much activity, then nothing.
Fishing was mostly the same.
We got chased off early by rain accompanied by mucho thunder. Knowing that lighting fries humanoids holding attracting sticks, we retreated.  b';

(http://i.imgur.com/PopYC3J.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/sn14TJV.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HixkRan.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pkZqOxx.jpg)

They are active and chunky. Bring emergers/soft hackles or go home sad.


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: NCsporksman on May 19, 2017, 16:30:06 pm
Quote from: IFStultz on May 18, 2017, 12:41:53 pm
Quote from: NCsporksman on May 18, 2017, 12:10:38 pm
Quote from: IFStultz on May 18, 2017, 11:58:01 am
Floated from the 666 bridge to the Great rd. takeout yesterday afternoon. Sulphur hatch was on and caught a pile of fish. Good to see fish rising with the water up. Took my buddies daughter out with us for the first time. Fun day. Leaving for Henry's Fork and possibly a side trip to the Missouri Saturday morning.


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Any mentionable specimens?

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It's the upper, so nothing huge but the fish look a little bigger then usual up there. The higher flows are improving the whole river. Gonna suck when it drops back to 35cfs for the minimal.


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truf p;-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: creakycane on May 19, 2017, 17:12:31 pm
The flows have really helped the transplants to the lower river.  Hope there is enough water to keep things going through the summer as the heat comes on.  2017 has been amazing.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on May 19, 2017, 22:19:24 pm


RIP Chris.

https://youtu.be/exanYRNdzP4?list=RDexanYRNdzP4

Two back to back days on the bitch. Wish the weather was more cooperative.
Got run off early by a storm yesterday (should have stuck it out  b';). Did not get to the end of day magic.
Stuck out three storm interruptions today. Chased to the bank and tree cover by lighting three times, drenched twice.
Could not stay late today, so of course a glorious sulfur hatch got cranked up at 5 when I had to leave.  b'; again.
Martial bliss beats brown trout heaven.
The dump.

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No lunkers, but the run of the mill are getting bigger and chunkier.

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One of a few rain beers.

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Wet sock crashed the party.

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Storm leaf hatch.

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The most pitiful cornfield in the world has been planted.

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Caught a bunch of smaller ones, too. FTG.

0:0


Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: swervinmervin on June 04, 2017, 10:59:01 am
Was able to get down there (finally) yesterday morning. Some risers, but not much coming off the water. Gauge read 430+ cfs, so upstream wading was a chore.

Fish caught: 0
Kayakers: 40+
Beers drank: 2

Beats cutting the grass.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 04, 2017, 11:59:57 am
Sulfurs come off in the afternoon, spinners at dusk


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 04, 2017, 12:17:30 pm
Mostly.
Kayak/nasty bikini hatch mid-day.
Definitely beats mowing.

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Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 09, 2017, 09:27:36 am


Gauge is 350 at Bassett, mo better for wading, got there about 4is, sulfurs were poppin and fish be rising. Had to bail at 6:30, caught about 20 punes, all on the surface. It was fun to target and connect. Will be going back this afternoon and staying late.

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This one is pining for the fjords.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on June 09, 2017, 10:16:12 am
Al and I caught about 160 this week.  ;D  8)  0:0
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 09, 2017, 10:35:16 am
Nice report, bugger.  :;!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 09, 2017, 20:13:00 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on June 09, 2017, 10:16:12 am
Al and I caught about 160 this week.  ;D  8)  0:0


I am sure there is a way to rotate this photo but I can't figure it out - which is one reason I don't post many reports here anymore (Woolly are you listening - this site is not user friendly)





Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 09, 2017, 20:14:37 pm
Lol.
And buffing it, too.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: driver on June 09, 2017, 22:20:26 pm
Just so everyone knows, that is the Trent Hill Bridge behind Al there.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 09, 2017, 23:22:58 pm
Quote from: Dougfish on June 09, 2017, 10:35:16 am
Nice report, bugger.  :;!

Nowwith pictures!


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Onslow on June 10, 2017, 06:43:49 am
Way to go Al!

Cmon Al, yer starting to sound like a Millennial.  Any thing worth doing requires effort.  I know you know the process, but I cannot resist being an asshole :laugh:

Connect camera to desktop

Edit pics using  desktop software, not on the stupid photo hosting site.

Export edited pics to finished photo folder

Drag batch of photos from folder to Imgur. If you don't have an account, get one.

Post TR

Smartphones and fishing don't mix for a multitude of reasons.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 10, 2017, 09:41:27 am
Quote from: Al on June 09, 2017, 20:13:00 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on June 09, 2017, 10:16:12 am
Al and I caught about 160 this week.  ;D  8)  0:0


I am sure there is a way to rotate this photo but I can't figure it out - which is one reason I don't post many reports here anymore (Woolly are you listening - this site is not user friendly)


I just added an image resizer mod so you can up load original photos and the board will auto resize them for posting... not tested at this point but go ahead and give it a try... can't help with rotation at this point...
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 10, 2017, 09:48:02 am
Quote from: Onslow on June 10, 2017, 06:43:49 am
Any thing worth doing requires effort.


True, but is it worth it.  Do any of us warrant beautiful photos and a Shakespearean interpretation of everyone's fishing expeditions?  I have an excuse; I suck at taking photos and have absolutely no desire to learn to post aesthetic TRs.  Now, if Katy Perry or Dorothy Hamill were members of this forum, I might deem such a fresh effort worthy.  I have just enough testosterone swirling somewhere in my atrophying body to want to impress such shapely creatures, but I've seen most of you and there's not one Dot or Katy in the bunch!

I salute Al for 86ing anyone's request for a photo laden TR. 

PM me if you would like a TR on my latest fishing adventures: catching stockers and red eyes on worms and Joe Flies, and eating them.

I love short hair on a figured gal!
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 10, 2017, 10:14:10 am



2017 - 50

Back for the sulfurs, arrived just before 2:00 and there was a jeep and another car in the lot with two guys gearing up. Didn't want them to get to my spot so I suited up in my new Chesties for some deep wading in the slough, not too many bugs and fewer risers but they were lookin up and the dry fly cast in a likely spot would entice a strike. Did that until I was tired of catching 'em, moved on down to more difficult water and challenge my self to catch the little fuckers the were rising under the rhodo on the far bank, the games we play! Waited until dark, there was no spinner fall and it was over by 7:30ish.

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What's wrong with this picture???
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 12, 2017, 11:17:18 am


2017 - 51

I'm not going to talk about #51

https://youtu.be/SZ5TeeHEgZY?t=49m43s
Saw this group Saturday evening, worth a listen...

2017 - 52

Four cars in the lot, and a fifth pulled in as I was gearing up, I haven't seen this many anglers on the river in a long long time.  As I walked along the path a  pair of bluebirds tree hopped their way down to the river. I jumped in at my new "high water" spot and realized that I might have high holed a young dude, but the fish were rising in good numbers. I hooked a fish on my "first cast" and proceeded to catch fish after fish. Picking off the targeted risers one by one. I took a beer break and watched the dude downstream who was not having any luck and when he got close enough I shouted out "What are you fishing?" "A Mr. Rapidan, all I have is my brookie box." "Well come on over and I'll give you a sulfur." He waded over and I handed him a couple of comparaduns. Brett is from Roanoke and a transplant from Michigan. I finished my beer and got back to fishing working the risers until the hatch petered out. Then I went for a look see in the woods for mushrooms before sitting down on a riverside fallen tree trunk to drink another beer and listen to the birds and enjoy the moving water.
Then two buff wearing, streamer slinging, big net carrying, fast moving, loud talking, dudes move through the run, focused on the water they didn't even see me until they were past were I was sitting.

After they passed I got off my duff and whacked a few more fish before taking a lunch break back at the car. Off of the 50 degree water and out in the sun hiking across the corn field the heat of the day beat down and as I sat eating my snad I pondered calling it a day or heading back for the evening hatch.

Then the three dudes that I had met on the river came by and I looked at them, then at the only other car in the lot, a Fiat 500, then back at them, and said, "Did all of you ride in that?" "No", the two streamer slingers declared, "we parked up the road about a mile. Turns out they are from Richmond and fish down this way often.

I hiked back down to the river at the bend and sat on the bank waiting for the evening rise. I may have dozed off for a bit, some bugs started popping, not many, a few fish rose, not many. Caught a few, not many. It was pretty much over at 7:30, I stayed until 9:00 just in case...

Saw about a dozen kayakers, first batch was quiet, second batch where whooping and hollering spin fishermen playing loud god-awful rap music, motherf*&%er this and ni*&er that,  which destroyed the tranquility of bird songs and flowing water. Then late in the day, two youngsters floated by in tubes! Holy crap! "Do you know how far it is to the take out?" I asked. "Is there someone behind you?" "Yes" they replied as they drifted around the bend. A canoe with two "adults" came into view? "Aren't those young'uns cold," I asked.  "Yes, they've been complaining and we're going to get them," they said as they paddled by. I hope so, I though.

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Tatted up dude with the wrong flies in the background
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streamer slinger #1
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streamer slinger #2
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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 12, 2017, 11:27:12 am
You attract quite the sort. Btw, seeing very little fruit set on paw paws.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on June 12, 2017, 12:09:55 pm
@Al, what happened to no pics?  n!n
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Al on June 12, 2017, 14:05:46 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on June 12, 2017, 12:09:55 pm
@Al, what happened to no pics?  n!n


Hey, I didn't post the photo of you almost drowning and trashing your new iPhone :laugh:

The reason I get invited on these little events is I document them for DGIF . You'll see the same or similar photos in upcoming DGIF publications and according to an email I just received from the headquarters in Richmond the entire story has been submitted "to our social media staff for consideration in posting on our social media sites, website or in the Outdoor Report". 
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on June 12, 2017, 14:20:06 pm
Quote from: Al on June 12, 2017, 14:05:46 pm
Quote from: troutfanatic on June 12, 2017, 12:09:55 pm
@Al, what happened to no pics?  n!n


Hey, I didn't post the photo of you almost drowning and trashing your new iPhone :laugh:

The reason I get invited on these little events is I document them for DGIF . You'll see the same or similar photos in upcoming DGIF publications and according to an email I just received from the headquarters in Richmond the entire story has been submitted "to our social media staff for consideration in posting on our social media sites, website or in the Outdoor Report". 



I have an iPhone 7 now  n!n

Don't make me start posting my pics. They aren't pretty and may start a riot.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 13, 2017, 10:32:11 am
Report from da Corps. Cfs will drop later today to 140-150 for the undetermined future. Big rain events may force a change.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: itieuglyflies on June 14, 2017, 10:37:59 am
What crowds? .... Arrived from Richmond at the MP Monday afternoon around 3 pm...no cars, just me. I think this new retired life will be good in many ways.

Finally spotted a few corn sprouts  in the "corn field" on the walk downstream, perhaps  "weedy, lumpy and will I ever get to the end of it field" is a better description.

I found the higher flows interesting but not a problem. With no bugs showing I started off with nymphs and caught a couple. Then it started...a bug here and there followed by trout eager to eat my sulphur imitations. Make the right cast, get a good drift and fish on. This catching went on for a few wonderful hours ......just me on that beautiful river. It was so good I spent the night in Martinsville and returned for a few hours again yesterday morning.....again never saw another person. Just me and the trouts. Only caught six in the am before I had to leave but I left only wanting more. Off to the Soho country for a few days next week.

Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 15, 2017, 13:50:26 pm
@itieuglyflies, pm me your SoHo plans... might be able to get over there....



Back to the salt mines.

NO work scheduled for the day so I tied up some ugly sulfur comparisons and then decided to hit the Smith with the new lower flow to "check things out" for a while before heading on down to CTL to pick up my son who is returning from 10 weeks in Europe where his finished up his student teaching ESL in Karlsruhe and then traveling around for a while before ending up visiting relatives in Scotland. Now he's either gong into the peach corp (Zambia) or teaching science somewhere in the U.S.

It was the earliest I had been out, arriving before noon,  and was disjointed by the lack of bugs, I did pick off a few risers before moving on downstream in search of the leroy that i heard splashdown after breaching the surface chasing bugs.

I was cooler in the moring with a good cloud cover which turned into blazing sun in the later afternoon.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 19, 2017, 17:28:20 pm

2017 - 54

Back to puneville on a hot Father's Day. Just me and some, oppps, 7% IPAs from Blue Mountain Brewery, the HopWork, orang-infused IPA; "Light crystal malt with a heavy hand of Simcoe, Cascade and Centennial hops complemented by natural orange flavoring."

Fished for a couple of hours, needed to get back for some evening events, caught a baker's dozen, two pushing 14, but one was a rainbow stogger.
My son brought me back some flies tied up by my Scottish riverkeeper relative who invented the Posh Tosh.

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Things that arrive in the mail from Austria and other countries like Florida, Asheville and Oregon.

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Sweet...

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Story about the flies.

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Iain on the River Tweed with an Atlantic from last week.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Dougfish on June 19, 2017, 20:40:46 pm
Son done good.  'c;

Where's the pic of the pushing 14" with the tape measure?  -0-
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 20, 2017, 11:34:17 am
Quote from: Dougfish on June 19, 2017, 20:40:46 pm
Son done good.  'c;

Where's the pic of the pushing 14" with the tape measure?  -0-


conveniently I had no camera (other than the cell which was in pants pocket under waders and I don't whip it out whilst wading balls deep) 
Title: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on June 24, 2017, 19:07:45 pm

Wait for the rise, whack a few punes, drink a beer, rinse and repeat.

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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 25, 2017, 10:12:49 am
Good photo of the Wheel Bug nymph.

Points deducted for the Columbia "super bonehead" label on the womanly plaid garment.  I just hope your concubine was wearing it, but then you'd have additional penalties for taking a gal to the Smith.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ryguy on June 25, 2017, 12:20:45 pm
Nice shot of the Osprey.  That's a cool aircraft to watch.


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: troutfanatic on June 26, 2017, 17:01:32 pm
I really wanted a jump out of one of them V-22s before I ended jump status. I am very curious about them. They did seem to have some issues crashing when they first arrived in Afghanistan, so maybe I should be glad I never jumped out of one.
Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: ryguy on June 27, 2017, 12:57:18 pm
There were issues at first.  Seem to be doing well now.  I'll stick with the Black Hawk..


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Title: Re: Smith-Continued
Post by: Woolly Bugger on July 01, 2017, 12:22:33 pm



2017 - 59

Worked didn't end until after 2, I figured I'd head to the river and fish till dark. Tire rotated, oil changed, still getting 32mpg.  I listened to The Remains of Company D: A Story of the Great War Hardcover (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312551002/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=bluridflyfiss-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=0312551002&linkId=37e7e40c6bedcb270cb3120e6700bd75) by James Carl Nelson on the road. It's the story of the author's grandfather and his company in the first wave of American forces in that tragic war. All he had heard were a few sentenced that were passed down over the years. "I enlisted. I went over to France. I was wounded, and I came home." My uncle Bill, whom I'm named after at least my middle name, was in the British Calvary, and I know just about as much about his involvement in the war, just change wounded to gassed, and there you have it.

The author plays History Detective and tells the story in all too real prose. Here is a review that sums it up better than I could.
"Not since Flags of Our Fathers--no, make that, Not since Paul Fussell's The Great War and Modern Memory--no, make that, Not ever--has an American nonfiction writer reached into history and produced a testament of young men in terrible battle with the stateliness, the mastery of cadence, the truthfulness and the muted heartbreak of James Carl Nelson in The Remains of Company D. I wish I'd had the honor of working on this book with him. But then, he didn't need me."---Ron Powers, New York Timesbestselling coauthor of Flags of Our Fathers and author of Mark Twain: A Life

I arrived but sat in the car listening to the end of a chapter and then suited up in the humid afternoon sun. The cold waters of the river waited my after the walk across the stunted corn field  Philphott's land. I still had a rod rigged from the smallie float and took that down with me, the wiggle minnow still attached to the leader. I waded deep out into the water, not to fish, but to cool off, there was a thick fog coming off the river that chilled the air and it felt good. There were fish rising and the birds were working the hatch along with the fish. Rig up dry flies ro what the heck, toss the willger on out into to the runs. Several fish blew up on it and I was encouraged by the activity but though I may have to tie up some on #10 hooks!

Finally I hooked an overachiever.

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I scrounged through the fly box looking for an acceptable sulfur, they were all half chewed up and looking ratty as hell. I drank a beer as I rebuilt the leader to a 6.5x tippet and tied on the best of the flies, maybe I should spend the weekend tying.

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They worked better that the wiggle minnow...

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This is a tasty brew from Sam Adams.. jis say'in

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