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Question:
Are you watching?
Option 1: Yes, riveting
votes: 4
Option 2: No, meh
votes: 9
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It is not a hearing. At a hearing, dissent is permitted. The other side can speak. Evidence is presented. Evidence is not censored or deceptively edited. Our media is more like China or North Korea everyday.
1. I hope the cop that murdered Ashley Babbitt is finally charged with her murder.
2. Politicians who were advised additonal police and National Guard were needed but failed to act are charged.
3. Set bail for those still being held with no bail since Jan 6 2021.
4. I hope everyone who commited a crime that day is charged and tried.
Here is good summary for those that missed it:
https://youtu.be/vyMzy6Q81-c
Quote from: trout-r-us on June 12, 2022, 11:38:33 AMHere is good summary for those that missed it:
https://youtu.be/vyMzy6Q81-c
Meanwhile Rome burns
http://youtu.be/6b-0dA8eBrw
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 17, 2022, 07:26:17 AMhttp://youtu.be/6b-0dA8eBrw
There are people being held in jail who have been denied bail and the right to a speedy trial since Jan 6th. Look at their charges, most are simple mister meaners. America now has political prisoners just like some 3rd world country. The real coup is coming Nov 22.
@Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 your clip was just part of Trevor Noah's show...
https://youtu.be/aBjZJWopKg4
Quote from: Trout Maharishi on June 17, 2022, 08:41:34 AMQuote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 17, 2022, 07:26:17 AMhttp://youtu.be/6b-0dA8eBrw
There are people being in jail who have been denied bail and the right to a speedy trial since Jan 6th. Look at their charges, most are simple mister meaners. America now has political prisoners just like some 3rd world country.
But if you are a leftist you can mob up in front of Supreme Court members' houses with impunity.
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Quote from: Trout Maharishi on June 17, 2022, 08:41:34 AMThere are people being in jail who have been denied bail and the right to a speedy trial since Jan 6th. Look at their charges, most are simple mister meaners. America now has political prisoners just like some 3rd world country.
Bullshit! I think only the really bad eggs are being detained.
"............dozens deemed to be dangerous, flight risks or at high risk of obstructing justice were ordered held without bond"
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/28/instagram-posts/defendants-jan-6-capitol-riot-arent-trespassers-th/
Quote from: TylerDurden on June 17, 2022, 09:02:26 AMBut if you are a leftist you can mob up in front of Supreme Court members' houses with impunity.
Yes, I agree. Protect and defend; arrest the lefties if they are breaking the law.
Apples and oranges I say. When the lefties invade and breach the Capitol, then everyone will be on equal footing.
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 17, 2022, 09:18:00 AMQuote from: TylerDurden on June 17, 2022, 09:02:26 AMBut if you are a leftist you can mob up in front of Supreme Court members' houses with impunity.
Yes, I agree. Protect and defend; arrest the lefties if they are breaking the law.
Apples and oranges I say. When the lefties invade and breach the Capitol, then everyone will be on equal footing.
Did you watch the Brett Kavanaugh hearings? They came pretty damn close. Also, have we forgotten the entire year of 2020 when federal court houses were under siege by rioters across the country? Or may 29th, 2020 when the historic St. John's church was set on fire just outside of the White House? Or how about the 15+ pro life pregnancy centers across the country that have been fired bombed since the RvW Supreme Court leak?
I'm not trying to pull a gotcha on you, I just think the media memory holes a lot of things and emphasizes other things.
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Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 17, 2022, 09:07:26 AMQuote from: Trout Maharishi on June 17, 2022, 08:41:34 AMThere are people being in jail who have been denied bail and the right to a speedy trial since Jan 6th. Look at their charges, most are simple mister meaners. America now has political prisoners just like some 3rd world country.
Bullshit! I think only the really bad eggs are being detained.
"............dozens deemed to be dangerous, flight risks or at high risk of obstructing justice were ordered held without bond"
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/28/instagram-posts/defendants-jan-6-capitol-riot-arent-trespassers-th/
Kinda like the Southern boarder, right? :cheers https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/ (https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/) "More than 840 people have been arrested for storming the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021, with charges ranging from obstruction of an official proceeding to assault. But 17 months after the attempted insurrection, a significant number of rioters are still awaiting their sentencing.
Only around a quarter of those arrested—185 individuals—have received criminal sentences, while the rest are waiting for their trials or haven't yet reached plea agreements. According to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, 80 defendants were sentenced to periods of incarceration, with longer prison terms for those who engaged in violence or threats. So far, the median prison sentence for the Jan. 6 rioters is 45 days. An additional 57 rioters have been sentenced to periods of home detention, while most sentences have included fines, community service and probation for low-level offenses like illegally parading or demonstrating in the Capitol, which is a misdemeanor." I have no issue with people being charged and tried, but not everyone there that day was there to overthrow the government.
Quote from: TylerDurden on June 17, 2022, 09:33:19 AMDid you watch the Brett Kavanaugh hearings? They came pretty damn close.
Jan 6.
https://youtu.be/ubKmjE3lEHI
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on June 17, 2022, 09:48:40 AMQuote from: TylerDurden on June 17, 2022, 09:33:19 AMDid you watch the Brett Kavanaugh hearings? They came pretty damn close.
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Jan 6.
https://youtu.be/ubKmjE3lEHI
The real crimes commited in the Kavanaugh hearings took place inside of the hearing.
Quote from: TylerDurden on June 17, 2022, 09:33:19 AMQuote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 17, 2022, 09:18:00 AMQuote from: TylerDurden on June 17, 2022, 09:02:26 AMBut if you are a leftist you can mob up in front of Supreme Court members' houses with impunity.
Yes, I agree. Protect and defend; arrest the lefties if they are breaking the law.
Apples and oranges I say. When the lefties invade and breach the Capitol, then everyone will be on equal footing.
Did you watch the Brett Kavanaugh hearings? They came pretty damn close. Also, have we forgotten the entire year of 2020 when federal court houses were under siege by rioters across the country? Or may 29th, 2020 when the historic St. John's church was set on fire just outside of the White House? Or how about the 15+ pro life pregnancy centers across the country that have been fired bombed since the RvW Supreme Court leak?
I'm not trying to pull a gotcha on you, I just think the media memory holes a lot of things and emphasizes other things.
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Or the summer of love that saw the left post bail for the people that killed cops and burned and occupied blocks of cities.
I'm sick of the tit for tat, or equal footing talk.
There is one standard, and it is called equal protection under the law, also known as the 14th amendment. The law is the fucking law, and it applies to all. If one breaks it, then there is a penalty. It is a very simple and effective concept.
If anyone of the George Floyd rioters vandalized property, they should be arrested. They are not social justice warriors, but violators of others rights. If capital rioters broke shit and the law, arrest their asses as well. Vandalism is intimidation, and intimidation is illegal. See Civil Rights Conspiracy Statute 241.
Liz Cheney is doing the right thing. She is upholding a standard which makes it strong. If people diminish a standard, it is at our own peril.
Those on the left who are fixated on imposing the woke moral order on people will get their comeuppance in due time. It is called getting voted out of office. The next task will stripping power and influence way from Blackrock. That will be a bit more challenging. Turn off the TV, and quit buying....
Quote from: Onslow on June 17, 2022, 09:55:41 AMI'm sick of the tit for tat, or equal footing talk.
There is one standard, and it is called equal protection under the law, also known as the 14th amendment. The law is the fucking law, and it applies to all. If one breaks it, then there is a penalty. It is a very simple and effective concept.
If anyone of the George Floyd rioters vandalized property, they should be arrested. They are not social justice warriors, but violators of others rights. If capital rioters broke shit and the law, arrest their asses as well. Vandalism is intimidation, and intimidation is illegal. See Civil Rights Conspiracy Statute 241.
Liz Cheney is doing the right thing. She is upholding a standard which makes it strong. If people diminish a standard, it is at our own peril.
Those on the left who are fixated on imposing the moral order on people will get their comeuppance in due time. It is called getting voted out of office. The next task will stripping power and influence way from Blackrock. That will be a bit more challenging. Turn off the TV, and quit buying....
I agree, one standard for everyone. Ever wonder how and why the 2 republicans that do sit on the committed got there? Both are going to need all of the money they will recieve for their cooperation. I'm fairly certain both are dead politically. Keep fixating on this, nothing else is going on in American. Don't look at your 401K, buy groceries, or fill up your tank today. :o :P b';
I was disappointed that the rioters were looking to hang pence. With many of comrade trumpsky's disciples expressing the notion that the donald was sent by god to serve, and considering pence a fallen apostle, I just felt that crucifixion would have been much more symbolic for the event.
Anyone else hear about Steven Colbert's staffers being arrested for being inside of the capital illegally yesterday? I hope they let them post bail.
The Floyd riots, the Charlottesville revolution, and all other gatherings if rules and regulations are broken are unacceptable. But looting a 711 or storming the streets of a university town carrying tiki torches does not compare to 6 Jan. And anyone that makes a comparison or notes a similarity is a fucking idiot.
Unraveling 6 Jan and assuring it never happens again indeed should take precedence over gas and grocery prices, and 401Ks. Particularly with this aging group of anglers. Face it, we have a few decades remaining if we're lucky. If given the choice, I'd take democracy longevity over growing investments or the low price of goods.
Happy Dad's day
Speaking of the almighty dollar, it's a darn shame how cult members were duped into sending their disposable income to trumpsky's big lie defense fund, when at the same time jet fuel prices have reached a point where some TV evangelists are faced with the prospect of either downsizing or grounding their private jets.
George Floyd, crime and drug free since May 2020. I knew he could do it <-;: I didn't have any money to send to Trump, I'd already sent it all to "Save The Wales" Even got a free tee-shirt.
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 18, 2022, 05:33:57 AMThe Floyd riots, the Charlottesville revolution, and all other gatherings if rules and regulations are broken are unacceptable. But looting a 711 or storming the streets of a university town carrying tiki torches does not compare to 6 Jan. And anyone that makes a comparison or notes a similarity is a fucking idiot.
Unraveling 6 Jan and assuring it never happens again indeed should take precedence over gas and grocery prices, and 401Ks. Particularly with this aging group of anglers. Face it, we have a few decades remaining if we're lucky. If given the choice, I'd take democracy longevity over growing investments or the low price of goods.
Happy Dad's day
I'm 70 years old. I'm not buying long term investments like 30 years bonds <-;: any more.
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 18, 2022, 05:33:57 AMThe Floyd riots, the Charlottesville revolution, and all other gatherings if rules and regulations are broken are unacceptable. But looting a 711 or storming the streets of a university town carrying tiki torches does not compare to 6 Jan. And anyone that makes a comparison or notes a similarity is a fucking idiot.
Happy Dad's day
Yes, you are correct. The George Floyd riot damage is estimated at 1-2 billion dollars. Capitol riots, 1.5-2.5 million. Portions of Seattle were occupied for weeks by armed goons.
Food for thought. If law enforcement would have been responsive in places like Seattle and Portland, Trump and his armed goon squads probably wouldn't have pulled this stunt. Trump has a clear track record of exploiting weakness.
This thread got me thinking of the forum member known as Sedition and Pockets. Clever handle and I respect what it represents. I really miss those briny fishing reports.
If you're out there, I hope you are well and ketchin' a bunch.
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 18, 2022, 05:33:57 AMIf given the choice, I'd take democracy longevity over growing investments or the low price of goods.
Why can't we have both? I'd like to throw in lower crime and secure boarders to.
A couple witnesses today offer some hope that there are still a couple republicans that seem to have the integrity to do what is right.
Quote from: trout-r-us on June 21, 2022, 15:59:57 PMA couple witnesses today offer some hope that there are still a couple republicans that seem to have the integrity to do what is right.
Please strike my last comment. I'll return to my original impression that all republican politicians are worthless.
Quote from: trout-r-us on June 23, 2022, 11:11:12 AMPlease strike my last comment. I'll return to my original impression that all republican politicians are worthless.
Fixed it for you
My wife said if they keep interrupting those soap operas like "The Young and the Restless" there's going to be another problem at the capital :laugh:
Quote from: Trout Maharishi on June 23, 2022, 17:58:49 PMMy wife said if they keep interrupting those soap operas like "The Young and the Restless" there's going to be another problem at the capital :laugh:
Yes, my wife is having severe withdrawal symptoms. You think the mob that attacked the capitol was bad? Wait'll ya see thousands of pissed off old housewives storm that sucker.
Flippant, indifferent females, what can you say? The CBS Y and R comes on at 12:30. I don't believe it was preempted today by the 3:00 hearing. In fact, Amanda got some bad news in today's episode. Something ain't adding up.
My wife watched the hearing btw.
3 pm start put the hearings right in the middle of my afternoon nap. Will need to watch "The View" on Friday for a summary. Those ladies have their finger on the pulse.
Quote from: trout-r-us on June 24, 2022, 05:43:24 AM3 pm start put the hearings right in the middle of my afternoon nap. Will need to watch "The View" on Friday for a summary. Those ladies have their finger on the pulse.
Joy Behar and Trump are one. I do not understand your logic. The View is a purveyor of toxic tribal opinion commentary much like the Tucker Carlson show. These types and their followers are an existential threat to sound judgement, and the longevity of the Union.
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 23, 2022, 19:30:27 PMFlippant, indifferent females, what can you say? The CBS Y and R comes on at 12:30. I don't believe it was preempted today by the 3:00 hearing. In fact, Amanda got some bad news in today's episode. Something ain't adding up.
My wife watched the hearing btw.
Lighten up, Muddy. It was a joke. Sheesh.
Quote from: Phil on June 24, 2022, 06:40:36 AMLighten up, Muddy. It was a joke. Sheesh.
Phil, I knew it was all in jest. So was my post. I don't watch soaps. I looked up the time for Y&R, network, and yesterday's episode.
All good, peace.
Off to monitor and take the pulse of more Republicans on the golf course with my son. Then tomorrow evening, looking forward to Wild Turkey banquet in Highland County. Weekend looking good.
Everyone have a good day.
Almost forgot to post this. Saw it last night. Funny and also a bit sad. Check out the 2 biscuits around 1:00, very attractive.
http://youtu.be/hNIJH5gufaQ
Quote from: Onslow on June 24, 2022, 06:28:44 AMQuote from: trout-r-us on June 24, 2022, 05:43:24 AM3 pm start put the hearings right in the middle of my afternoon nap. Will need to watch "The View" on Friday for a summary. Those ladies have their finger on the pulse.
Joy Behar and Trump are one. I do not understand your logic. The View is a purveyor of toxic tribal opinion commentary much like the Tucker Carlson show. These types and their followers are an existential threat to sound judgement, and the longevity of the Union.
Jeez, some of youse guys are really easy. Lighten up. 😁. Doomsday will be here soon enough.
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 24, 2022, 07:40:17 AMAlmost forgot to post this. Saw it last night. Funny and also a bit sad. Check out the 2 biscuits around 1:00, very attractive.
http://youtu.be/hNIJH5gufaQ
Faceplant material.
But seriously, these dumb as fuck folks vote. Do you?
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 24, 2022, 07:40:17 AMAlmost forgot to post this. Saw it last night. Funny and also a bit sad. Check out the 2 biscuits around 1:00, very attractive.
http://youtu.be/hNIJH5gufaQ
Wow!
Damn klepper can find some idiots for sure.
Today's hearing was interesting, for sure.
I find the entire case personally gratifying. Witnessing human stupidity, falsehoods, sisyphean behavior, in history (hopefully a singular, unique point in history, and even embarrassing history) has its rewards.
Trumpsky always used his stooges as a buffer as any true mob boss would.
https://youtu.be/uezhB-qJqDc
Deplorable!
full video
https://www.c-span.org/video/?521771-1/eighth-hearing-investigation-capitol-attack
Trump supporters be like --
(https://i.imgur.com/zDbaJuxl.jpg)
https://youtu.be/7Rev9imsmU8
Run Josh, Run!!!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/josh-hawley-ran-7-2-in-the-40-at-the-january-6-combine/ar-AAZRTG2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8ad224a47b954653a098e5ef371a5708
Quote from: trout-r-us on August 18, 2022, 06:02:46 AMTrumpsky mishandling and possibly dealing with the enemy with nuclear weapons secrets.
https://youtu.be/qs6mBh2uXRM
Has this even been confirmed, or is this nukin futtery?
Trump is a nut, but despite his issues, he had a better read on our national security vulnerabilities than most establishment folk.
Quote from: Onslow on August 18, 2022, 11:04:40 AMTrump is a nut, but despite his issues, he had a better read on our national security vulnerabilities than most establishment folk.
Not everyone agrees.
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2020/09/assessing-trumps-national-security-record/168327/
Short term memory loss is one thing, selective short term memory loss is another. https://abcnews.go.com/WN/president-bill-clinton-lost-nuclear-codes-office-book/story?id=11930878 (https://abcnews.go.com/WN/president-bill-clinton-lost-nuclear-codes-office-book/story?id=11930878)
The DOJ and the FBI need new leadership. An early morning raid by the FBI on an ex president's home is just further escalation of the political warfare that's taking place in America. It's really little more than an attempt to deflect all the attention from the Biden crime family train wreck in progress. Release the affidavit and lets see the evidence. The idea of some top secret nuclear secrets being given away are laughable. The average person has no idea how difficult it would be for the launch by a rouge individual of a nuclear weapon. My neighbor thinks Trump was selling nuclear secrets to the aliens.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nuclear-bomb-launch-procedure-us-government-president-2017-11 (https://www.businessinsider.com/nuclear-bomb-launch-procedure-us-government-president-2017-11)
Quote from: Onslow on August 18, 2022, 11:04:40 AMTrump is a nut, but despite his issues, he had a better read on our national security vulnerabilities than most establishment folk.
More likely that most established folk consider him to be a national security vulnerability.
Quote from: trout-r-us on August 18, 2022, 16:40:47 PMQuote from: Onslow on August 18, 2022, 11:04:40 AMTrump is a nut, but despite his issues, he had a better read on our national security vulnerabilities than most establishment folk.
More likely that most established folk consider him to be a national security vulnerability.
I dont doubt that, but you don't think Biden isn't a threat to our national security? Our standing in the world has taken a real hit with Biden's obvious weakness.
So Trump belongs on the short bus, but sadly, he was the first POTUS to really recognize our diminished ability to produce goods domestically was a national security issue. Not only is it a huge national security issue in terms of external threats, but an internal existential threat. If a short busser can figure this out, then the establishment folk are really dumb.
Trump is a boorish ass, but the only things I really fault him for is his BS, insurrection, and drunk sailor spending which overheated the economy/stock market, which resulted in inflation.
I think Carter is a fine man, but he performed poorly as POTUS. George W is also good man, but soiled himself by committing crimes against humanity by invading Iraq. In terms of intelligence, the George HW and James Baker demonstrated brilliance not seen since.
I wish we had someone like Ike again :cheers
https://youtu.be/ULDGfjyVOW0
Quote from: trout-r-us on August 26, 2022, 21:24:24 PMhttps://youtu.be/ULDGfjyVOW0
im not a fan of rap and by that I mean I hate it but that was funny as hell