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Title: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: BugSlinger on February 10, 2007, 23:39:41 PM
Anybody else having a problem getting to http://www.southeastflyfishingforum.com/ ?

Okay okay I know I shouldn't be asking here but there are a lot of us that frequent both sites (among others).  I just get a generic fishing links page...just started doing this this morning...
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 10, 2007, 23:50:31 PM
I don't get it? whats the problem  >:D
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: MtnGrouseHtr on February 11, 2007, 07:42:47 AM
Same thing for me. You are not the only one.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: JonC43 on February 11, 2007, 07:55:23 AM
Same here. It has been going on since last evening for me. I got through to what seemed normal once before I went to sleep, but it reverted back to the links page.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Beetle on February 11, 2007, 08:48:21 AM
Same here.   No dice
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: lepomis_mcro on February 11, 2007, 11:34:59 AM
its a little know fact. that all internet servers are outfitted with pettyness protection circuits. when the level of pettyness exceeds regular levels...."(i.e.) people are pushed off of boards for having different views over ridiculas things like cuban cigars, floride, or religion ::) " the servers sut down to protect its self from all the B.S. ;)
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 11, 2007, 12:17:35 PM
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its a little know fact. that all internet servers are outfitted with pettyness protection circuits. when the level of pettyness exceeds regular levels...."(i.e.) people are pushed off of boards for having different views over ridiculas things like cuban cigars, floride, or religion ::) " the servers sut down to protect its self from all the B.S. ;)

The golden club over there can say and do what they want. You have to elevate your status on SELFF to club level.  And this type of post isn't helping advance the cause.

Forget what you know and start over, with meaningless, mindless posts. Then learn a few buzz words, like (Great post!, you da man!, thank the lord....ect ect.)

Petty, I know but effective communication, that will advance your status.
Remember can't you suck up enough.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: calebB on February 11, 2007, 13:05:00 PM
Troutphisher, Are you against complimenting people?

Back to the post,  Last night I couldn't get on, but then tried a different pc and was able to.  This afternoon it has been fine for me.

Caleb
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Peddler on February 11, 2007, 13:09:02 PM
I only vish ze smartest peoples in ze vorld would post there unt enlighten ze masses... but alas... zey are only human... yet zey manage to be civil.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: phg on February 11, 2007, 13:38:17 PM
OK, children....

Yeah, it looks like a domain server/name server problem.  I was on this morning, but now it goes to some other site, even though the name is correct.  I'm sure Troy is working on it.  Think maybe they forget to pay their annual name-renewal fee/ :-[ o-o   >:D
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: old tom on February 11, 2007, 15:47:50 PM
I know - Let's blame it on Harvey.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: teachrtec on February 11, 2007, 16:11:21 PM
I keep thinking yesterday I has some ugly a$$ virus on my machine. Cleaned my sys. as a precaution. Probably needed it any how.  Seems to be OK today.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 11, 2007, 16:30:39 PM
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Troutphisher, Are you against complimenting people?



Great post!, you da man!, Adda boy!, thank the lord!
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 11, 2007, 16:34:07 PM
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I only vish ze smartest peoples in ze vorld would post there unt enlighten ze masses... but alas... zey are only human... yet zey manage to be civil.

Feeble attempt on German phenolic  :'(

Eins sollten kleben was er weiss auberst, unbekummert beforderung.
Auf sudosten fliegen ficher gericht.

Auch bekannt als (der sudosten liegend saftsack gericht).

BTW, don't you have some wooden rulers to sell some where?
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 11, 2007, 17:44:39 PM
that is too funny... :o

don't know what happened but the domain was "updated" today....

Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Peddler on February 11, 2007, 19:48:34 PM
QuoteBTW, don't you have some wooden rulers to sell some where?

Sure do! Mercedes just ordered 10,000 of them for their quality labs worldwide. Once BMW heard of it, they ordered 6,000! Problem is, we only make them in stainless or with TiC coatings. We might just have to lower our standards for them unt tell zem zey are from ze Black Forest!  ;D
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: calebB on February 11, 2007, 20:33:16 PM
Thanks troutphisher, but you never answered my original question. :D
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 11, 2007, 20:47:40 PM
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Thanks troutphisher, but you never answered my original question. :D


Katie, ain't it past yer bedtime?
Your folks are going to beat you!!!!! :o
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: calebB on February 11, 2007, 21:49:51 PM
QuoteQuote
Thanks troutphisher, but you never answered my original question.


???
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 11, 2007, 23:36:40 PM
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Sure do! Mercedes just ordered 10,000 of them for their quality labs worldwide. Once BMW heard of it, they ordered 6,000! Problem is, we only make them in stainless or with TiC coatings. We might just have to lower our standards for them unt tell zem zey are from ze Black Forest!  ;D


Give it up Piddler, your trying to hard.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Peddler on February 12, 2007, 06:27:47 AM
You got it Krautpisser.

Oh... and it's you're trying to hard. How could ze smartest man in ze vorld screw zat up?  ::)
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: lepomis_mcro on February 12, 2007, 10:46:08 AM
dont forget you can still post on the old board

http://www.southernflyfishersforum.com (http://www.southernflyfishersforum.com)
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Trout Maharishi on February 12, 2007, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: Peddler on February 12, 2007, 06:27:47 AM
You got it Krautpisser.

Oh... and it's you're trying to hard. How could ze smartest man in ze vorld screw zat up?  ::)

WOW! Krautpisser? Do you honestly think that was called for? That shows a lack of respect not only for Karl, but Keith as well.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Peddler on February 12, 2007, 11:15:27 AM
Quote from: Trout Maharishi on February 12, 2007, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: Peddler on February 12, 2007, 06:27:47 AM
You got it Krautpisser.

Oh... and it's you're trying to hard. How could ze smartest man in ze vorld screw zat up?  ::)

WOW! Krautpisser? Do you honestly think that was called for? That shows a lack of respect not only for Karl, but Keith as well.

I'm part squarehead myself!  ;D
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Gofisher on February 12, 2007, 11:21:43 AM
Ya'll are a bunch of real, nice, guys... :o Why all the hate?
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: phg on February 12, 2007, 15:00:36 PM
For what it's worth, Troy confirmed that the domain name expired on them.  They thought they had it set up for auto-renewal, but someone messed up.  Hopefully, it will be straightened out soon.  I've been able to get on most of the day, but can't right now....
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: lepomis_mcro on February 12, 2007, 16:07:08 PM
Quote from: Gofisher on February 12, 2007, 11:21:43 AM
Ya'll are a bunch of real, nice, guys... :o Why all the hate?

my post isnt about hate.... its about disappointment in my fellow man
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 12, 2007, 16:53:54 PM
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You got it Krautpisser.

You couldn't reply like this on the SELFF, he he he he.

Proves my point! thanks
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Al on February 12, 2007, 16:58:53 PM
Just wondering - Does anyone do any fishing anymore or the very least talk about fishing?

I know we are not suspose to bring up HW anymore, but at least he ran a good fishing board.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: teachrtec on February 12, 2007, 18:26:47 PM
Cabin Fever ?

Brad  8)
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 12, 2007, 19:03:09 PM
Quote from: Al on February 12, 2007, 16:58:53 PM
Just wondering - Does anyone do any fishing anymore or the very least talk about fishing?

I know we are not suspose to bring up HW anymore, but at least he ran a good fishing board.


It's just the off day dulls.

I like playing with peddler, he's like an old tennis ball you throw against the wall. Eventually it goes flat and doesn't bounce back.

I agree Harvey ran the site better. Given the choice of some of the current staff and a crook, I take the crook. At least you know what your getting.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 12, 2007, 20:23:06 PM
here's some trivia that I ran across today..

the registrars of the top 1000 companies...

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/edelman/registrar-choice/fortune-list.html
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: befuddled on February 12, 2007, 20:24:57 PM
holy crap, how many boards are there?


i always thought there was just one that kept evolving 8@S

OK, SEFFF isn't a new version of this site. that explains some things
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: croaker on February 12, 2007, 22:26:32 PM
 //?
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 13, 2007, 07:07:14 AM
Quote from: Al on February 12, 2007, 16:58:53 PM
Just wondering - Does anyone do any fishing anymore or the very least talk about fishing?

I know we are not suspose to bring up HW anymore, but at least he ran a good fishing board.

It's a clear case of CABIN FEVER!
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: plumbob on February 13, 2007, 13:22:23 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on February 13, 2007, 07:07:14 AM
Quote from: Al on February 12, 2007, 16:58:53 PM
Just wondering - Does anyone do any fishing anymore or the very least talk about fishing?

I know we are not suspose to bring up HW anymore, but at least he ran a good fishing board.

It's a clear case of CABIN FEVER!

Its more then that! Since this will most likely be my last post I'm going to say some things that others would like to but won't. Like Al said, we don't talk about fishing anymore. The threads that get the most responses are the ones that attack the SEFFF and its mods. The ones that do the attacking complain about they are not free to express themselfs. Freedom without checks and balances only leads to chaos. And the ones that enjoy causing chaos are the ones that always use the "Don't have any freedom line". At one point in time the two boards were almost one in the same, you had the same people on each forum. Then the Harvey thing happened and everybody came running to Woolly's sight like rats off a sinking ship and still do when something happens over there. Woolly I don't blame you one bit for being pissed off with the flip floppers. But things have changed on this board, I used to come on and enjoy this forum, maybe not log on as much as the SEFFF but would still try to and did buy some books to try to help you out, didn't have to. All it seems like anymore is that this has become a hole for the vermin to run and hide while they wait for the chance to come out and cause more trouble. Woolly you can put a stop to this war that has been allowed to run its unchecked course. This is the only forum I have seen that is puplicly allowed to continue to condem another. You have to stop allowing this, for you to not do so will only put you at the same level as the scum that have no where else to go. Woolly I know you remember the folks that used to post years ago, we had our fun but did talk fishing without trying to bring down another forum. You don't see these people posting on either board anymore, tied of all this bull shit, and I'm tied of it myself and won't be visiting either board from now on. There are still a lot of good people that are still around and I like to call friend but their voices cannot be heard anymore. Some feel that a thread on strike indicators is lame. Well its not for the person who is just starting out. And a round of applause for the ones who don't get tied of answering the same questions over and over again, there the ones who keep bringing in new people. I see you now have people complaining about giving out compliments. Telling the person way to go or you da man or nice fly is a way to help lift the spirits of the person which is what these boards where supposed to be all about, to get away from the grind of every day head aches and to learn what we could about something that feeds our souls. To tell troutphisher that the flies he has in the archive are the worst examples I have ever seen, that they should be on a poster labled what not to do, or that a pile of dog shit would get up and run away before allowing them to land on it I don't think would make that persons day and do nothing to help with the spirit of the forum. For the friends I have made and hope to stay in touch with I would be more then happy to help you out in any way that I can, you'll just have to E-mail me. I'll miss what was once on these boards, time to say by.   
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: troutphisher on February 13, 2007, 15:50:37 PM
Plumbob:

You helped create the monster and now you're looking to blame those who disagree with your views and moderating doctrine. Can you honestly say you have moderated fairly?

We all don't think alike, and those that thought different we moderated; yet those who shared the views of the moderators were allowed to continue.

As for the flies, you have been a member of this board for as long as I have, yet you contributed one fly. No one put a fly into this site for years, so I decided to start an archive.

We both tie flies for different reasons. I tie to catch fish, and you tie to get ribbons and medals.

I catch plenty of fish with the flies I tie, and I am satisfied with my efforts.
I am not convinced gold medal flies catch more fish than the average tier. And that's all I have ever claimed to be.

Your post resounds with the bitterness of an old man, that people have stopped listening to. You wonder why folks stopped listening and can't reason and answer.

Maybe it's the message?
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Trout Maharishi on February 13, 2007, 16:45:25 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Bob :( There is more here than meets the eye on both sides of the fence.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: moodytrout on February 13, 2007, 16:50:03 PM
This is why you guy's dont see me posting that much any more- to much BS and I will never rejoin that other board ever again after the way I was treated there. Have made many friends on these boards and look forward to fishing with all of you this year.
tight lines
Clarence Moody
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: kylemc on February 13, 2007, 20:46:38 PM
Oh my!!   Aint it just fishing? ???
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Al on February 13, 2007, 22:31:33 PM
Children!! Children!! Go back and read what you wrote and then look yourself in the mirror and see if maybe you don't want to hit the remove or edit button.

Having been of both sides of these flames in the past, I can tell you there are no winners and you just end up feeling and looking silly.

Go thing spring is coming up. What we need is a good old fashion "fish off". 

Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: lepomis_mcro on February 14, 2007, 00:41:50 AM
i have to agree with fatal on your post there bob..

QuoteIts more then that! Since this will most likely be my last post I'm going to say some things that others would like to but won't. Like Al said, we don't talk about fishing anymore. The threads that get the most responses are the ones that attack the SEFFF and its mods. The ones that do the attacking complain about they are not free to express themselfs. Freedom without checks and balances only leads to chaos. And the ones that enjoy causing chaos are the ones that always use the "Don't have any freedom line".

it seem that in this post your against guys causing chos, but in this next quote about sixx you seem to be glad he is mixing it up over there.. so what way is it? it doesnt seem like you leave room for both.

QuoteWell the one thing I know is he does know some stuff on tying flies, weather he can actually tie or not I haven't seen enough of his stuff to say for sure. Not sure if he's trolling or not but he can bring life back to a sleeping forum. For the entertaining part I like having him around. Like ODG3 how he stirs up trouble, like having him around.

as for
QuoteWoolly you can put a stop to this war that has been allowed to run its unchecked course. This is the only forum I have seen that is puplicly allowed to continue to condem another. You have to stop allowing this, for you to not do so will only put you at the same level as the scum that have no where else to go.
woolly doesnt have to stop doing anything. and why put this at his door. last time i checked he wasnt the ones over at SEFFF that was acting holier than thou and running anyone that might have a different opinion off...on this site as owner he is doing a great job IMO 0--0 ...

and just like shular told me by pm over on the other site, when i was complaning about people being banned..  its his site and he can run it like he wants ::)

QuoteHaving been of both sides of these flames in the past, I can tell you there are no winners and you just end up feeling and looking silly.
i have no fear about looking silly i do it on a daily basis


Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Gofisher on February 14, 2007, 09:56:28 AM
FatAl, am I a scab that will disappear?  ???
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Russ on February 14, 2007, 13:50:21 PM
Quote from: Gofisher on February 14, 2007, 09:56:28 AM
FatAl, am I a scab that will disappear?  ???

We can only hope we are so lucky 0--0
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 14, 2007, 19:18:07 PM
Quote from: plumbob on February 13, 2007, 13:22:23 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on February 13, 2007, 07:07:14 AM
Quote from: Al on February 12, 2007, 16:58:53 PM
Just wondering - Does anyone do any fishing anymore or the very least talk about fishing?

I know we are not suspose to bring up HW anymore, but at least he ran a good fishing board.

It's a clear case of CABIN FEVER!

I'm tied of it myself and won't be visiting either board from now on.

PB, you get out what you put in. I don't run this forum for popularity or profit, and I'm not into a whole lot of censorship. This board was revived only because of SEFF going down just before a PFF. I never wanted to get into running and moderating a board. Sure some of the people who don't fit in at SEFF board hang out here and while we don't have world class fly tyers posting we do had a pretty good archive of Troutphishers flies which he has taken the time to post. Just in case you haven't noticed there have been fishing reports posted and there is a recent "helpful" thread on nymphing for newbies.

This tread was started because of DNS problems at the SEFFF and it was a legitimate question. In the past I've pulled post about the SEFF. I really felt there was no reason to pull this one, however I was concerned about the language in YOUR post and almost pulled it, but then reconsidered.

"If the devil laughs it must be at hypocrites, for they are the greatest dupes he has, for they suffer greater mortification to go to hell than the sincerest Christians do to go to heaven."

I really don't know how to reply to your post. If you want to contribute fine, if you want to slam my board and it's members you are welcome too!


Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: plumbob on February 14, 2007, 20:11:48 PM
Keith I thank you for your reply and I apologize to you and any of the board members for my language and to those I have insulted. I am glad that you are happy with your forum and wish you continued success and growth. In my moment of insanity I said I was also leaving the SEFFF, this will only happen now if they choose to make it so. I will stay away from your forum and will not slam it or any of its members on any other forum. I hope that you will accept this apology.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Al on February 14, 2007, 22:36:11 PM
Thank you Keith & Plumbob for stepping up.

Now, it is not my place to do it, but as one of those that stirred the pot a bit, I would like to declare an end to this thread. May it rest in peace.
Title: Re: The other place... (SEFFF)
Post by: Gofisher on February 14, 2007, 22:40:13 PM
Goodbye because you say so?  ???