Just to stir the pot, I had an interesting conversation today with a group of "anglers" all rocking the newest tilley high air flow hats, $400 waders, $1,000 rods and $500 reels and otherwise looking dashing... Did not see them fishing however b';
Got to the trib that i was fishing (not the main river with all of the "regular crew") had a good day then came out to hear the local contingent bitching about the tilley hat river runs through it crew. Had to stop in for a laugh and to hear that conversation.
So I am bringing that conversation to this board, thoughts on the movie and the hats? ;D
Tilley hat river runs through it crew :laugh: Well fuck me. Thats a mouth full. Thankfully, I never see this crowd, unless Im on my way to my friends cabin in Balsam Grove and I drive by the douche magnet Davidson. Speaking of which, how did Looking Glass creek fish today :P
I didn't even know what a Tilley hat was until I googled it. $77 at REI. To rich for my blood but so are $1000 rods.
What a bunch of losers. That's why I stick with cane poles, split shot and red worms when I go set up on my favorite trout hole. I can out fish those catalog jerks every time and I don't need to spend a bunch of money and look like some fly fishing faerie.
Quote from: The Dude on May 16, 2011, 04:26:44 AM
What a bunch of losers. That's why I stick with cane poles, split shot and red worms when I go set up on my favorite trout hole. I can out fish those catalog jerks every time and I don't need to spend a bunch of money and look like some fly fishing faerie.
well said, well said. 'c;
Personally, I do not care much one way or the other. I find it a bit amusing that some are in to the fly fishing fashion scene so much that they will spend extravagant sums of money to look like a novelty item. Those folks care more about fashion than they do about fishing. I care about catching fish in a beautiful enviornment.
But, hopefully they are supporting the local fly shops and for that I am grateful. And, some good things about those types is that they do not tend to fish long or frequent my trout water. They are more of comedic relief than a pest.
Quote from: mecnc on May 16, 2011, 00:18:55 AM
I didn't even know what a Tilley hat was until I googled it. $77 at REI. To rich for my blood but so are $1000 rods.
I'm with you on this one, I had no idea what a tilley hat was either. I usually only ever run into "the tilley hat river runs through it crew" whenever I go to the fly shops or Orvis.
@Transylwader, "how did Looking Glass creek fish today"
Very good guess but not correct. I have not fished LGC in a few years. The creek I fished fished well but not outstandingabout 8 fishing all rianbows biggest was about 9" Good day for the limited ammount of time I got out there.
Whoever coined the phrase, "Fishing Faries" - Brilliant! 'c;
Gotta love them!
STU
Going to shock you all but I own a Tilley hat and liked (actually disliked) the movie.
Bought the original Tilley hat "way back when" - needed a replacement hat and saw it at a store in Anchorage on one of my trips to visit my daughter who lives up there. The price turned me off but then I saw it came with an instruction manual and thought to myself, "any hat with a manual must be good" - and it is. Liked the story about a elephant trainer who recycled his thorough the elephant several times - just washed it off and plopped it back on his head. Mine is pretty beat up but still shades my eyes, keeps a fly from embedding itself in my ear and sheds water.
I liked or disliked the movie because Paul reminded me so much of my long ago deceased brother - you could see he was headed for trouble but there was very little you could do about it. And let's not forget, half of you guys who hang around these forums would still be chucking crank baits :o if the movie had not thrust fly fishing into the mainstream.
Quote from: Al on May 16, 2011, 14:54:43 PM
And let's not forget, half of you guys who hang around these forums would still be chucking crank baits :o if the movie had not thrust fly fishing into the mainstream.
Thats right Al, Im thinking all of these guys, except me. South Africa never got TV till 1994 when Nelson Mandela was released :o I had my 1st fly rod in 1985, a shakspeare Summit and a Phlueger Medalist reel spooled with Cortland 333 line. I thought I was the shit then ;D
As another said, they don't fish long. And they spend big at the auctions that support streams and habitat and they usually support the local chapters
We'll have to start teachinv the Boy Scouts to smear some mud on their new gear.
I fly fished for 30+ years before the "River Runs Through It" movie was made. I like it, however.
I don't have a Tilley hat, or $400 waders. I have a few high-dollar rods, a few cheap rods ( that I tend to use a lot), and a few good reels. I don't diss anyone who spends big money. If I had big money, I'd probably be a gear hog.
This discussion has been carried out ad nauseum for the past 5-6 years that I have been checking flyfishing boards. b';
Fish or don't fish. If you have the money to buy high-dollar stuff, more power to ya. Just shut up and fish. ;D
Will I catch more fish wearing a tilly hat vs. wearing my smelly, nasty, and torn Simms dessert camo trucker hat? ;D
I really could care a less what anyone wears, just have fun fishing. However, I have to admit, it does crack me up a bit when I see guys wearing and carrying thousands of dollars worth of top of the line gear and they can not catch a fish or cast more than 10 feet.
Fortunately, like T'wader, I rarely see another fisherman in the places I fish.
"Fortunately, like T'wader, I rarely see another fisherman in the places I fish."
If I see another fisherman (or see a fishing vehicle) in the wild places I usually fish, I hike back to the car and go somewhere else.
I wouldn't know a tilley hat if it bit me. some people got money and don't care much between a 20 dollar bill and a hundred. That's OK. I got some nice gear but I ruin it pretty good.
I liked the movie.
As long as we're picking on Fly Fishing Factions, my favorites are the Delta Force.
Shane, Delta Force???
The conversation this weekend was new to me, still made me laugh my ass off though. Had to post it on here to see the static. Thanks for the input. Best 2 comments so far,
"shut up and fish" 'c;
"I got some nice gear but I ruin it pretty good" 'c;
Quote from: lostnwilderness on May 16, 2011, 20:45:37 PM
Shane, Delta Force???
The conversation this weekend was new to me, still made me laugh my ass off though. Had to post it on here to see the static. Thanks for the input. Best 2 comments so far,
"shut up and fish" 'c;
"I got some nice gear but I ruin it pretty good" 'c;
You know those guys. They're not affected, really, by some aesthetic. They have really, really good gear. It's all new, worn on utility belts. Their fly boxes are perfect. They walk with purpose, not smiling. They trailer the driftboat like seals who have trained for this assault for months. They are damn good at catching fish.
Delta Force
I don't know who's worst, fly fishers who can't fish yet have all the right gear or fly fishers who can't fish yet take great pains in how they dress 'cuz they worry far too much how their look compares to others, though I have to admit, it did bother me when a friend said my 'brand name' wading pants made my butt look big. Even the AquaSealed patches all over them couldn't outweigh the shame.
Most people work up to better gear, I'm working down to the best gear 'for the money'. God Bless this economy or else I might never get the chance to hang low-brow and grungy with the cool people.
'Scuse me... I just got an email that WalMart has some fine waders on sale for $12.00. Think they'll make my ass look big?
The movie was okay. The little book was better.
$77.00 fer a hat... :laugh:
Hence the reason I no longer guide people. "That" crowd made me want to shoot people! At that point, "Life is too short to fish with assholes" went into effect.
Short payback is sweet story. My ex-wife and I camped on a stocker stream after 3 days out backpacking. I was grungy to say the least. Walked down to the stream in flops and shorts. Ink showing! Sat on the bank and watched 2 of the Tilley hat gents fish over a pool with at least 100 fish in it and go fishless. Meanwhile getting nasty looks and comments from them. They eased out the back of the hole after maybe 30 minutes. Before they could get out I dropped the bomb nymphing rig in the hole and proceeded to get one second drift. I was hungry as well as the ex, so you know where that went. SMACK! Dead fish flopping. That really got their attention. 10 or 12 casts.....7 dead fish. They wanted to talk then.
I had fish to cook. Later assholes.
Sorry to you purists, but every once in a blue moon, fish must die. I pay a shit load of money to release way too many fish. Most live to see another day, but the Tilley crowd made my blood lust boil
You know those guys. They're not affected, really, by some aesthetic. They have really, really good gear. It's all new, worn on utility belts. Their fly boxes are perfect. They walk with purpose, not smiling. They trailer the driftboat like seals who have trained for this assault for months. They are damn good at catching fish.
Delta Force
FLMAO!!!!! AWESOME bd;0
You know what I find equally amusing...the Geirach crowd that goes out of its way to not look like a yuppie. You know the type...jeans, hip boots, bamboo--the "I was fishing long before "the movie" crowd. I think some of those guys put more thought into what they look like than the newer anglers sporting the latest gear do.
"Sorry to you purists, but every once in a blue moon, fish must die." Quote by Lee Dawg. Agreed! My main problem with those boys is they think this is a game like golf or tennis, which is what they were doing until they heard this was realy cool. I honestly think they believe every fish that they catch and release goes home to the wife and kids. I hate to hurt their feelings but on average 5% of what we catch dies and there is nothing we can do about it. I keep one every now and then just to remind myself this is not a game but a blood sport.
Sounds like wealth envy has reared it's ugly head. Then again you guys badmouth those with cheap gear as well, so it seems more likely ya just hate them because they're not you. :o
When I fish there are only two groups of people on the water..My group, and the assholes..Gear, skill level, age, style of dress, etc, play no real part in it..
I would encourage everyone to wear a wide-brimmed hat. Skin cancer is nasty shit.
I went to the local military surplus and grabbed a khaki booney for $10.
Fish hard!
Quote from: Friar Tuck on May 21, 2011, 09:19:41 AM
I would encourage everyone to wear a wide-brimmed hat. Skin cancer is nasty shit.
I went to the local military surplus and grabbed a khaki booney for $10.
Fish hard!
That is true something useful did come of this! I need to get one myself.
STU
Quote from: Friar Tuck on May 21, 2011, 09:19:41 AM
I would encourage everyone to wear a wide-brimmed hat. Skin cancer is nasty shit.
I went to the local military surplus and grabbed a khaki booney for $10.
Fish hard!
I totally agree. I had a dime-sized chunk removed from my nose last year. Don't mess around. Use the sunscreen, get a wide brimmed hat, wear a buff...or stick to those little streams shrouded in the tree canopy.
Quote from: Flatlander on May 22, 2011, 07:31:02 AM
Quote from: Friar Tuck on May 21, 2011, 09:19:41 AM
I would encourage everyone to wear a wide-brimmed hat. Skin cancer is nasty shit.
I went to the local military surplus and grabbed a khaki booney for $10.
Fish hard!
I totally agree. I had a dime-sized chunk removed from my nose last year. Don't mess around. Use the sunscreen, get a wide brimmed hat, wear a buff...or stick to those little streams shrouded in the tree canopy.
I wore a beret for over three decades. Cool at the time but in hindsight a dumb hat choice by the the military. Lots of guy with wrinkles and skin cancer way before their time.
I did read a month ago that the Army Uniform Board has decided that all regular units, ie not SF, Airborne or Ranger convert to wide brim calvary style hats next year. That move will not protect the elite units from skin cancer - maybe they figure they are too tough to get it - NO TRUE. I have dents in my nose, ears and neck as testimony to the fallacy of that line of thinking.
Good point Al.
I need to fish more where the sun don't shine. You guys fishing the backwoods have got it right. Don't need sunscreen, you get a cardio work-out with a purpose, no poison ivy, very few assholes (except your own).
By the way - the guy who stocks the Mitchell wears a Tilley now. I'm gonna have to stop tipping him so much. But then the bastard will probably stopp calling me when he leaves the hatchery.
Been a firm believer in the straw hat for some years now. I like wearing a shade tree on my head. Highly recommended
I want a pith helmet.
S
Quote from: Shane on May 23, 2011, 08:04:13 AM
I want a pith helmet.
S
Looks like you're in luck...only $79.95 at the Fly Shop:
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When you aren't fishing, you can wear it on safari! -0-
got to talk brittish wearing that thing, or worse yet - south african :o
Another reason I don't visit here much, I like my Tilley... :;!
Quote from: lostnwilderness on May 23, 2011, 18:14:41 PM
got to talk brittish wearing that thing, or worse yet - south african :o
better South African than Canuck...
(http://www.billcasselman.com/tilley_title.jpg)
I hear you Al. I wore a straw hat for years guiding and working. This spring it finally went to be with God so I replaced it with a tilley and yes tranny it is hemp so if I run out I can smoke it in a pinch! :-X After making some minor modifications, it fits and wears well. I am a big believer in hats, skin cancer seems a punk ass way to go out... I am holding out hope for something better
Gofisher, nothing wrong with wearing a hat you like. I like mine and wear it farming and fishing. Don't think anyone is saying "those people" (me included) are better or worse than anyone else. What ever works for you, go for it. The thread started as an interesting redneck conversation over a few beers in a parking lot after catching fish while watching a group get dressed and not ever get wet, little lone catch fish.