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Woolly Bugger

MONTANA TO LAUNCH RETURN-TO-WORK BONUSES, RETURN TO PRE-PANDEMIC UNEMPLOYMENT PROGRAM TO ADDRESS WORKFORCE SHORTAGE

>>>HELENA, Mont. – Governor Greg Gianforte today announced two measures to address the state's severe workforce shortage and incentivize Montanans to reenter the labor force.

The State of Montana will launch a return-to-work bonus program, utilizing federal funds authorized by the American Rescue Plan Act. Return-to-work bonuses will be paid to unemployed individuals who rejoin the labor force and accept and maintain steady employment for at least one month.

The governor also announced the State of Montana will end its participation in federal pandemic-related unemployment benefit programs and transition to pre-pandemic unemployment insurance (UI) eligibility and benefits by the end of June.

"Montana is open for business again, but I hear from too many employers throughout our state who can't find workers. Nearly every sector in our economy faces a labor shortage," Gov. Gianforte said.

https://news.mt.gov/montana-to-launch-return-to-work-bonuses-return-to-pre-pandemic-unemployment-program-to-address-workforce-shortage
ex - I'm not going to live with you through one more fishing season!
me -There's a season?

Pastor explains icons to my son: you know like the fish symbol on the back of cars.
My son: My dad has two fish on his car and they're both trout!

Yallerhammer

Quote from: Dougfish on May 05, 2021, 19:53:06 PMIt is a boomer thread! LOL.

This boomer wants the minimum wage to go to $15. ASAP.
Inflation has happened without the wage going up. No excuse.
Cost of living has gone up without the wage going up. No excuse.
Rent and home ownership costs have gone up with out the wage going up. No excuse.

Yeah, a lot of us worked for cheap and built we we have now.
But we had opportunity, service, education, skills, trades, etc.
A lot of minimum wage folks don't have those advantages.
A lot, a lot of minimum wage folks are middle age and seniors (like us) who have no
education and experience and have found themselves in a rough spot.

Don't worry. Your burger won't go up a lot. Their taxes might go up a lot more than your
iced tea at Chik Fil A.
More tax money? More money to the public good.
Are you part of "the public"?
Are you part of the "good"?

So, now what do you tell the guy who has worked half of his life to make himself worth $15 an hour, has an education, prefessional certifications, licenses, and such, but now suddenly finds himself making exactly the same as the schmuck fucking his burger order up at Hardee's? His employer certainly isn't going to double his wages like the .gov did for unskilled Burger King Man.
Women want me, doughbellies fear me. - Little Debbie Prostaff

Mudwall Gatewood 3.0

Quote from: Yallerhammer on May 06, 2021, 11:36:51 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on May 05, 2021, 19:53:06 PMIt is a boomer thread! LOL.

This boomer wants the minimum wage to go to $15. ASAP.
Inflation has happened without the wage going up. No excuse.
Cost of living has gone up without the wage going up. No excuse.
Rent and home ownership costs have gone up with out the wage going up. No excuse.

Yeah, a lot of us worked for cheap and built we we have now.
But we had opportunity, service, education, skills, trades, etc.
A lot of minimum wage folks don't have those advantages.
A lot, a lot of minimum wage folks are middle age and seniors (like us) who have no
education and experience and have found themselves in a rough spot.

Don't worry. Your burger won't go up a lot. Their taxes might go up a lot more than your
iced tea at Chik Fil A.
More tax money? More money to the public good.
Are you part of "the public"?
Are you part of the "good"?

So, now what do you tell the guy who has worked half of his life to make himself worth $15 an hour, has an education, prefessional certifications, licenses, and such, but now suddenly finds himself making exactly the same as the schmuck fucking his burger order up at Hardee's? His employer certainly isn't going to double his wages like the .gov did for unskilled Burger King Man.

Gradual, correct? By 2025, correct?  What would that mean for those now at $15?
"Enjoy every sandwich."  Warren Zevon

Yallerhammer

Today's show has been brought to you by the words "Instant Gratification" and "Entitlement."
Women want me, doughbellies fear me. - Little Debbie Prostaff

Yallerhammer

#49
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on May 06, 2021, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on May 06, 2021, 11:36:51 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on May 05, 2021, 19:53:06 PMIt is a boomer thread! LOL.

This boomer wants the minimum wage to go to $15. ASAP.
Inflation has happened without the wage going up. No excuse.
Cost of living has gone up without the wage going up. No excuse.
Rent and home ownership costs have gone up with out the wage going up. No excuse.

Yeah, a lot of us worked for cheap and built we we have now.
But we had opportunity, service, education, skills, trades, etc.
A lot of minimum wage folks don't have those advantages.
A lot, a lot of minimum wage folks are middle age and seniors (like us) who have no
education and experience and have found themselves in a rough spot.

Don't worry. Your burger won't go up a lot. Their taxes might go up a lot more than your
iced tea at Chik Fil A.
More tax money? More money to the public good.
Are you part of "the public"?
Are you part of the "good"?

So, now what do you tell the guy who has worked half of his life to make himself worth $15 an hour, has an education, prefessional certifications, licenses, and such, but now suddenly finds himself making exactly the same as the schmuck fucking his burger order up at Hardee's? His employer certainly isn't going to double his wages like the .gov did for unskilled Burger King Man.

Gradual, correct? By 2025, correct?  What would that mean for those now at $15?
That they are no longer worth more than a teenager flipping burgers. Most employers are already paying what they can afford to, except for some of the mega-corporations. Higher minimum wage always sounds good on paper, but in reality, it translates to rampant inflation, businesses closing down, large reductions in the workforce, and self-serve everything that costs more than full-serve used to.  Legislation based on emotion instead of reality never works. It just fucks the system up more and more. The end result of socialism is always to reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator. I want the government to mostly stay out of my life and leave me alone to live it.
Women want me, doughbellies fear me. - Little Debbie Prostaff

22midge

just hang on a few more days ....your labor force is swimming across or running across as we speak
never let a day go by without telling your children how special they are----make a child smile today and gain a friend for life

Onslow

Inflation will fix everything. Trump kept the the economy on the hot side, and Joe wants to be FDR, but will have a legacy similar to Carter's.

We'll all take a 50% pay cut within the next 4 years. Life will be grand.  The post reality world many embrace will be checked by simple math and gravity.

Dougfish

The negative Nancy's on here can bitch and moan all they want.
The world moves on. The economy and wages will continue to rise.
A high tide raises all boats.
I'm going fishing.
"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
 Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? "
Kelly's Heroes,1970

"I don't wanna go to hell,
But if I do,
It'll be 'cause of you..."
Strange Desire, The Black Keys, 2006

troutrus

Opportunities abound in Eden, NC. Some offer signing bonus. 😳

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Woolly Bugger

Quoted from a FB friend...

" I love the attempt to blame unemployment compensation on the lack of people rushing in to apply for crap paying jobs, few safety precautions, no benefits, and an expectation that you cease to matter once employed."
ex - I'm not going to live with you through one more fishing season!
me -There's a season?

Pastor explains icons to my son: you know like the fish symbol on the back of cars.
My son: My dad has two fish on his car and they're both trout!

Al

Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 07, 2021, 14:18:03 PMQuoted from a FB friend...

" I love the attempt to blame unemployment compensation on the lack of people rushing in to apply for crap paying jobs, few safety precautions, no benefits, and an expectation that you cease to matter once employed."

A few years ago minimum wage jobs were considered temp jobs for kids and students. They learned a few skills, like showing up on time, following instructions and made some spending money as well. They were also good for folks who might have had a temporary set back and were between good jobs - maybe even for retired folks who needed something to do or a little extra income.

Unfortunately times have changed - When jobs started moving overseas they put an awful lot of middle age workers out of work. Many of them had skills which did not easily transfer to other jobs even if they existed. The furniture industry is a good example - same with the auto industry. Many skills have been replaced by automation - we are even seeing that with fast food. Farming which was once labor intensive is now highly automated. I could go on and on with other examples. All those displaced folks are now lining up and justifiably complaining about minimum wage jobs. Raising the minimum wage will temporarily give them a boost but "a raising tide lifts all boats" soon gives way to inflation or "a falling tide" which brings everyone down with it.

It's not pretty and there are no obvious solutions. If we were a bunch of animals (which we are), we'd say "there are to many of us and we are overgrazing our habitat".

One last thought - before the recent election I was fishing an in-shore waterway with lots of boat slips and high end houses. Eight out of ten boats had Trump flags on the sterns or a Trump sign on the waterway rear lawn.  I remarked about this to my host who said "These are well to do people, many of whom took risks and worked a hundred hours a week before they 'stuck it rich', many of them still do. They created hundreds of jobs". He went on to say "I've never got a job from a poor person".

troutrus

Reducing interest rates leads to inflation and reducing taxes leads to inflation yet nobody complains.
Try to give folks living in poverty a raise and everybody bitches about it leading to inflation.

Go figure.

Mudwall Gatewood 3.0

Quote from: Onslow on May 06, 2021, 19:40:07 PM.......and Joe wants to be FDR, but will have a legacy similar to Carter's.

We'll all take a 50% pay cut within the next 4 years. Life will be grand. 


Let us make a wager and test your skills as a clairvoyant.

I continue to find it interesting that some want most or all government out of their lives.  I am surrounded by friends, neighbors, and relatives that are always grousing over governmental intrusion and control.  I'll ask some of you the same question I ask them, which I think I did earlier somewhere on this board, 'What did you do with your latest relief check; I assume you marked it return-to-sender?'
"Enjoy every sandwich."  Warren Zevon

Woolly Bugger

'We All Quit': Restaurant Signs Claiming Staff Walking Out Are Popping Up Across U.S.

>>>One sign on a Hardee's window said: "Due to no staff, we are closed. We are hiring," while a Wendy's sign said: "We all quit!! Closed!!"

A sign on a Chipotle window said: "Attention Chipotle customers. Want to know why we're closed? Ask our corporate offices why their employees are forced to work in borderline sweatshop conditions for 8+ hours without breaks. We are overworked, understaffed, underpaid, and underappreciated.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/we-all-quit-restaurant-signs-claiming-staff-walking-out-are-popping-up-across-u-s/ar-BB1gzAdj?ocid=msedgdhp



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ex - I'm not going to live with you through one more fishing season!
me -There's a season?

Pastor explains icons to my son: you know like the fish symbol on the back of cars.
My son: My dad has two fish on his car and they're both trout!

Onslow

It isn't just fast food.  I've seen high attrition in management positions as well. People are buckling under extremely taxing workloads.