Prithee Doug-
My limited search says Cape Honeysuckle, which is a tropical plant. This was in Pisgah, next to a trout stream. The bush/tree was about 6-7' tall. The webs say it should be in zones 9-11 and maybe 8. This one was in zone 6a. Is it something else?
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Looks like Flame Azalea to me fam
It's a flame azalea
Yeah, that looks right. I have never noticed the bright orange flowers. Thanks.
Flame Azalea is correct. Yellows, oranges, reds. V:;
Tree butts :;!
Get some Wood
http://www.collegehumor.com/post/7007632/15-sexy-tree-butts-that-will-give-you-some-major-wood?ref=homepage (http://www.collegehumor.com/post/7007632/15-sexy-tree-butts-that-will-give-you-some-major-wood?ref=homepage)
http://www.wset.com/story/29458390/rare-century-plant-begins-bloom-outside-lynchburg-home (http://www.wset.com/story/29458390/rare-century-plant-begins-bloom-outside-lynchburg-home)
What a goober. Good for her.
Quote from: Big J on July 02, 2015, 15:14:49 PM
http://www.wset.com/story/29458390/rare-century-plant-begins-bloom-outside-lynchburg-home (http://www.wset.com/story/29458390/rare-century-plant-begins-bloom-outside-lynchburg-home)
Good ole WSET. I grew up south of Lynchburg, J. They will report on anything. News and Advance is a primo publication as well! I saw this earlier: how damn dumb can you get? Par for the course near my home, I guess.
http://www.newsadvance.com/news/local/muddy-footprints-lead-authorities-to-campbell-county-burglary-suspects/article_94f23b74-20cb-11e5-9619-6f77123c9939.html (http://www.newsadvance.com/news/local/muddy-footprints-lead-authorities-to-campbell-county-burglary-suspects/article_94f23b74-20cb-11e5-9619-6f77123c9939.html)
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Burr Oak?
Sawtooth oak
Quote from: JMiller on October 07, 2015, 19:02:22 PM
Sawtooth oak
I agree. Burr (Bur) Oaks should not be in the Boss's neck-of-the-woods.
Sawtooth for the win. 'c;
The strands on the cap are finer and more completely cover the nut on a Burr Oak.
Quote from: Dougfish on October 07, 2015, 20:24:09 PM
Sawtooth for the win. 'c;
The strands on the cap are finer and more completely cover the nut on a Burr Oak.
Sawtooth oak was not in my field guide. What is their native range?
Nm, fucking nonnatives.
Take your Asian shit and gtfo
Well, let's back up then, Gray.
I should have asked the boss a question or two.
Woolly, was this a wauld off the beaten tracks specimen or in a urban/suburban setting?
Any foliage or stem/bud picks would quickly finish the discussion.
(And Mud doesn't know shit. Burr range goes into NC.)
Old Reynold's estate, Reynolda gardens, I looked at the leaves of the Sawtooth on the interwebs and confirmed a match! I had not noticed those acorns before .
Dropped Pin
near 80 Reynolda Village, Winston-Salem, NC 27106
https://goo.gl/maps/kt7WeyWtDmz
Quote from: Dougfish on October 07, 2015, 22:42:01 PM
(And Mud doesn't know shit. Burr range goes into NC.)
Bullshit! Not according to any map or source I could find. I am sure they've been planted in NC, but are not native. Or prove me wrong.
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=QUMA2 (http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=QUMA2)
Woolly- I still have my "leaf collection" from 9th grade. Did the entire project in about two hours at Reynolda Gardens. They planted A LOT of non-natives there so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see some weirdos.
Quote from: wildmttrout on October 07, 2015, 22:37:10 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood on October 07, 2015, 19:06:24 PM
Quote from: JMiller on October 07, 2015, 19:02:22 PM
Sawtooth oak
I agree. Burr (Bur) Oaks should not be in the Boss's neck-of-the-woods.
Neither should sawtooth oaks
You'll find them planted in a lot of the wildlife management/public hunting areas because they go to mast a lot quicker than the native oaks do. Deer don't know the difference.
So they'll spread from there pretty quickly.
Haven't seen them used much as ornamentals.
I think everybody in the southeast with a piece of land they deer hunt on has planted sawtooth oaks. Deer will walk through white oak acorns to get to the sawtooths.
I get a kick out of planting trees on my mountain and floodplain property. That is interesting info on the Sawtooth cycle and taste. Back in 2012 I planted several Burr Oaks from the acorns of the famous Virginia Tech tree; they are doing great. The Quaking Aspen and the White Birch I dug up in MN are not doing so well. Now, I am fascinated by the American Beech; I want to plant several of those.
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood on October 18, 2015, 10:11:39 AM
I get a kick out of planting trees on my mountain and floodplain property. That is interesting info on the Sawtooth cycle and taste. Back in 2012 I planted several Burr Oaks from the acorns of the famous Virginia Tech tree; they are doing great. The Quaking Aspen and the White Birch I dug up in MN are not doing so well. Now, I am fascinated by the American Beech; I want to plant several of those.
There are a lot of American Beeches walking around VT? You planning on transplanting one of them?
Quote from: Big J on October 18, 2015, 10:15:33 AM
There are a lot of American Beeches walking around VT? You planning on transplanting one of them?
You best stick with something you know and love, and it ain't "walking American Beeches"! Although I am sure you were exposed to them at Liberty, I doubt they were recognizable, hiding behind their supernatural dogmas and their orgasmic yearning for their front row tickets to the Second Coming and the Rapture.
Anyone ever order trees from these folks?
https://www.arborday.org/ (https://www.arborday.org/)
I wish yall assholes would quit planting these damn nonnatives. The hell with burr oaks and sawtooth bullshit; plant more hickory and white oaks.
Quote from: wildmttrout on October 18, 2015, 11:36:16 AM
I wish yall assholes would quit planting these damn nonnatives. The hell with burr oaks and sawtooth bullshit; plant more hickory and white oaks.
I think there are native burr oaks in Virginia, Doug or Fin?
This is the celebrated VT tree -- planted many moons ago.
http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/campus_trees/bur_oak.htm (http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/campus_trees/bur_oak.htm)
Earlier in this thread you called bullshit on me.
Now you want my opinion to back you up? n!n
Quote from: Dougfish on October 18, 2015, 12:33:07 PM
Earlier in this thread you called bullshit on me.
Now you want my opinion to back you up? n!n
Bullshit on NC native Burr Oaks, not Virginia. And you instigated the bullshit by voicing the reality ("And Mud doesn't know shit."), which is totally true, but that ain't the point. Answer the damn question and prove me wrong. Yes, I want your opinion.
Non sequitur: My pack weighs 75.75 lbs. I hope your back is strong.
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Plants do not know state lines; show me a real distribution map
http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=QUMA2 (http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=QUMA2)
Go to the map and zoom in to get what counties it has been found in. These maps are the best I've found. 6 counties in NW VA.
Have I done enough legwork, now?
Are you in one of those counties mudwall?
Quote from: Dougfish on October 18, 2015, 15:06:26 PM
http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=QUMA2 (http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=QUMA2)
Go to the map and zoom in to get what counties it has been found in. These maps are the best I've found. 6 counties in NW VA.
Have I done enough legwork, now?
Thank you Doug. You've done some fine work. You're OK and I don't care what your wife says about you.
Quote from: wildmttrout on October 18, 2015, 15:46:13 PM
Are you in one of those counties mudwall?
Damned close. I can spit on Highland County.
Quote from: wildmttrout on October 18, 2015, 11:36:16 AM
I wish yall assholes would quit planting these damn nonnatives. The hell with burr oaks and sawtooth bullshit; plant more hickory and white oaks.
There's something we agree wholeheartedly on. I spent years as a horticulturist specializing in native plants doing inventories, restoration of native plant communities, and eradicataing invasive exotic species. Unfortunately, I think we are heading into the Homogocene era as far as vegetation goes.
Like you folks I have no love for non-natives. Tread lightly because we, the white eyes, are the epitome of an "invasive exotic species".
Those censuses are to be taken with a grain of salt.
Roanoke Co. is not supposed to have Post Oaks. Yet I can take you to one that it would that would take three of us to reach around.
And Roanoke City "has" no Scarlet Oaks. Mine is 80' x 80'.
I grow a lot of non-natives. No qualms about it. I only have one species I would consider an invasive potential.
But I agree, planting asian/european species in the middle of the woods for food plots is dumb.
But a food plot in general is dumb. Everything that gets planted in them is non-native. Lazy hunters plant food plots.
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood on October 18, 2015, 16:19:47 PM
Like you folks I have no love for non-natives. Tread lightly because we, the white eyes, are the epitome of an "invasive exotic species".
Worst invasive species the world has ever seen
Quote from: wildmttrout on October 18, 2015, 18:20:59 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood on October 18, 2015, 16:19:47 PM
Like you folks I have no love for non-natives. Tread lightly because we, the white eyes, are the epitome of an "invasive exotic species".
Worst invasive species the world has ever seen
No Yankees are the worst invasive species.
Quote from: tomato can on October 22, 2015, 16:57:48 PM
Quote from: wildmttrout on October 18, 2015, 18:20:59 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood on October 18, 2015, 16:19:47 PM
Like you folks I have no love for non-natives. Tread lightly because we, the white eyes, are the epitome of an "invasive exotic species".
Worst invasive species the world has ever seen
No Yankees are the worst invasive species.
Hard to argue with that
In my world, it would be Raleighites. Retirees are moving to Ashe and Allegheny county in droves. These counties are turning into hoary headed cluster fuck o rama. Even yet more annoying are those well resourced soccer parent types building second homes up there. Streams will be damned.
I have no damned idea why any old person would want to move where it is cold, snowy, and windy. More to the point, no amenities such as hospitals, rehab centers, assisted living. What are these people thinking!
Bur oak native range from my national Audubon society field guide.
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Tropical. Don't be bringing that shit.
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Hey Doug , whats this?
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Not Doug, but it looks like Nigella damascena or Love-in-a-Mist
nailed it, they volunteered in a side garden, can't figure out how they got there.... looks like they could be prolific...
Good job, carpboy.
Six leaves and about 3 ft tall. Mixed in with lots of rhodo and laurel on a steep bank.
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The leaf at 5 o'clock has a notch. It did a furtive search on Bing and found nothing.
Magnolia, macrophylia.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=magnolia%20macrophylla&qs=IM&form=QBIR&pq=magnolia%2C%20ma&sc=8-12&sp=5&sk=IM4
Thanks, I had that as minor guess. Tell me about the notch in the 5 o'clock leaf and why is there only one layer of leaves-or maybe better- why are there no other branch levels. My limited understanding is that magnolias are sort of dinosaur, or simple, or a we don't really need to evolve type plants. It is neat that from reading the Wiki, it jumps into spots were there is all of the sudden light. This is true to this one. The hemlocks falling to pieces definitely have poked holes in the canopy. You can kind of see it in the crappy photo, a smattering a light. A hemlock or two up slope have succumb and this bugger is making a run in a spot that has been pretty shaded for a long time. Thanks.
Might be M. fraseri or M. ashei instead. Are the bases of the leaves prominently lobed? Tough to tell from that pic.
M. fraseri is by far the most common one in most of western NC.
Quote from: Dougfish on July 25, 2016, 06:32:58 AM
Might be M. fraseri or M. ashei instead. Are the bases of the leaves prominently lobed? Tough to tell from that pic.
You're prominently lobed
Quote from: DAYUMson on July 25, 2016, 09:45:23 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on July 25, 2016, 06:32:58 AM
Might be M. fraseri or M. ashei instead. Are the bases of the leaves prominently lobed? Tough to tell from that pic.
You're prominently lobed
You checked? :o 0:0
I compared those two and the bigger lobes seem to have it. Magnolia fraseri. Thanks.
http://www.namethatplant.net/gallery_comparison.shtml?compare=leaves%20of%20Magnolia%20species