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Title: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 08, 2023, 15:49:20 PM
Ex-Virginia Tech soccer player who refused BLM kneel gets $100K in settlement


https://nypost.com/2023/01/08/kiersten-hening-ex-virginia-tech-soccer-player-who-refused-blm-kneel-gets-100k/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 08, 2023, 18:19:19 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmILV7hpRYM/
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 14, 2023, 11:36:19 AM
San Francisco to air Black reparations plan, $5M per person

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A controversial draft reparations proposal that includes a $5 million lump-sum payment for each eligible Black person could make San Francisco the first major U.S. city to fund reparations, though it faces steep financial headwinds and blistering criticism from conservatives.

Tuesday's meeting of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors will include a presentation by San Francisco's African American Reparations Advisory Committee, which released its draft report in December. The $5 million-per-person payment is among more than 100 recommendations ranging from offering grants to buy and maintain homes to exempting Black businesses from paying taxes.

Supervisors can vote to adopt all, none or some of the recommendations and can change them. Several board members have expressed concerns over the potential hit the lump-sum payment and other options would have on the city budget, already facing a shortfall.

https://apnews.com/article/san-francisco-black-reparations-5-million-36899f7974c751950a8ce0e444f86189


I'm identifying as a resident of San Francisco and a decedent of a slave, jis say'in --
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Trout Maharishi on March 14, 2023, 16:16:08 PM
I'm moving to SF and I identify as a black woman. My name is Shemeca. :laugh: My pronouns is she, dem, day d:b
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Phil on March 14, 2023, 16:23:33 PM
Damn, I wish I was a rich old one-eyed black man instead of a poor old one-eyed whitey.
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Phil on March 14, 2023, 18:35:21 PM
I will state, however, that I'm getting really tired of the term "woke." It's become a catch-all phrase to denigrate every conceivable issue that conservatives object to -- similar to describing everyone not in agreement with them as a "snowflake."
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: trout-r-us on March 14, 2023, 19:06:09 PM
As the old saying goes, "Payback's a Bitch."
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Trout Maharishi on March 15, 2023, 00:05:20 AM
Quote from: Phil on March 14, 2023, 18:35:21 PMI will state, however, that I'm getting really tired of the term "woke." It's become a catch-all phrase to degrade every conceivable issue that conservatives object to -- similar to describing everyone not in agreement with them as a "snowflake."

I agree with you Phil. I don't like racist, right-wing extremist, alt-right, or fascists either. I think you can disagree without name calling or using derogator phrases. Except for TBII, he deserves it.  :laugh:  :Dance
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 15, 2023, 09:13:53 AM
I had no idea of the meaning of woke.  It seems the word has been around since 1938, and is somehow associated with the words of Lead Belly. 

There are changes in word meanings.   Semantic shift is the term. 

Shit fire, I learned something from this investigation, proof that you can sometimes discover new goodies when following bullshit. 

https://www.thoughtco.com/how-the-meanings-of-words-change-1692666#:~:text=1%20Broadening%20Also%20known%20as%20generalization%20or%20extension%2C,inclusive.%20...%203%20Amelioration%20...%204%20Pejoration%20
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: trout-r-us on March 15, 2023, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: Phil on March 14, 2023, 18:35:21 PMI will state, however, that I'm getting really tired of the term "woke." It's become a catch-all phrase to denigrate every conceivable issue that conservatives object to -- similar to describing everyone not in agreement with them as a "snowflake."

I've always viewed "woke" and "snowflake" as complimentary labels targeting folks that are informed, aware, sympathetic and caring for other humans, animals, and all of nature.
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Trout Maharishi on March 15, 2023, 09:34:48 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 15, 2023, 09:13:53 AMI had no idea of the meaning of woke.  It seems the word has been around since 1938, and is somehow associated with the words of Lead Belly. 

There are changes in word meanings.  Semantic shift is the term. 

Shit fire, I learned something from this investigation, proof that you can sometimes discover new goodies when following bullshit. 

https://www.thoughtco.com/how-the-meanings-of-words-change-1692666#:~:text=1%20Broadening%20Also%20known%20as%20generalization%20or%20extension%2C,inclusive.%20...%203%20Amelioration%20...%204%20Pejoration%20




I love listing to old recordings of Robert Johnson, Huddie, Robert Burnsides, and Howling Wolf.The love of their music has taken me some interesting places.
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 15, 2023, 09:40:20 AM
Quote from: trout-r-us on March 15, 2023, 09:15:00 AMI've always viewed "woke" and "snowflake" as complimentary labels targeting folks that are informed, aware, sympathetic and caring for other humans, animals, and all of nature.


You mean liberals, correct?  I could not lay off such a slow pitch.   
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 15, 2023, 11:38:36 AM
National Audubon Society, pressured to remove slave-owning naturalist's name, keeps it
The prominent bird conservation group weighed — but decided against — shedding its ties to John James Audubon, a famed naturalist who was also an unabashed enslaver

The National Audubon Society, one of the country's best-known bird conservation organizations, decided in a closed-door vote this week to retain the name of John James Audubon, famed 19th-century naturalist and wildlife illustrator who was also an unabashed enslaver.

The move comes even as about half-a-dozen of the organization's regional chapters have pledged to scrub his name from their titles, part of a broader reckoning over the U.S. environmental movement's history of entrenched racism.

The National Audubon Society's 27-person board of directors voted to retain its current name during a Zoom meeting on Monday after more than a year of deliberating and gathering feedback from both members and outsiders. Susan Bell, chair of the board, declined to provide a breakdown of the final vote.

"The name has come to represent not one person, but a broader love of birds and nature," Bell said in a phone interview. "And yet we must reckon with the racist legacy of John James Audubon, the man."


https://wapo.st/3mXb6da
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: troutboy_II on March 15, 2023, 15:35:25 PM
Quote from: Trout Maharishi on March 15, 2023, 00:05:20 AM
Quote from: Phil on March 14, 2023, 18:35:21 PMI will state, however, that I'm getting really tired of the term "woke." It's become a catch-all phrase to degrade every conceivable issue that conservatives object to -- similar to describing everyone not in agreement with them as a "snowflake."


I agree with you Phil. I don't like racist, right-wing extremist, alt-right, or fascists either. I think you can disagree without name calling or using derogator phrases. Except for TBII, he deserves it.  :laugh:  :Dance

Tranny? Is that you?  Are you back?  :drum  <-;:  :P
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: trout-r-us on March 15, 2023, 20:47:58 PM
Quote from: Trout Maharishi on March 15, 2023, 00:05:20 AMI don't like racist, right-wing extremist, alt-right, or fascists either.

You mean conservatives, correct?  I could not lay off such a slow pitch.   
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Trout Maharishi on March 15, 2023, 21:06:41 PM
Nothing wrong with liberal or conservative.
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Onslow on March 16, 2023, 10:21:07 AM
Wokeism is not liberalism. Trumpism is not conservatism. Wokeism and Trumpism are destructive cult movements.  5 billion in property damage and counting.
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: troutboy_II on March 16, 2023, 17:10:51 PM
Quote from: Onslow on March 16, 2023, 10:21:07 AMWokeism is not liberalism. Trumpism is not conservatism. Wokeism and Trumpism are destructive cult movements.  5 billion in property damage and counting.

Bravo!  Well put.
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Trout Maharishi on March 16, 2023, 19:21:40 PM
 :laugh:
(https://i.postimg.cc/j5wh51g0/4oom6g.jpg)
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 18, 2023, 09:56:34 AM
Audubon faces a backlash over keeping a name that evokes a racist enslaver  - https://www.npr.org/2023/03/18/1164293652/audubon-faces-a-backlash-after-deciding-to-keep-name-that-evokes-a-racist-enslav
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 18, 2023, 11:14:18 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 18, 2023, 09:56:34 AMAudubon faces a backlash over keeping a name that evokes a racist enslaver  - https://www.npr.org/2023/03/18/1164293652/audubon-faces-a-backlash-after-deciding-to-keep-name-that-evokes-a-racist-enslav

I bet there are racists or worse in the annals of every organization.   He did not create the National Audubon Society; his name is nothing more than part of the organization's current identity.   So, ditch the name, find a new one, and move on.   

My suggestion is abandoning the idea of including any name of a human (past or present) in the identity of an organization.  We all have skeletons. 

Pimple on the ass of a screwy world.  Bigger fish to fry.   
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Trout Maharishi on March 18, 2023, 20:01:24 PM
I never understood when we were tearing down statues why we didn't get to these.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monuments_in_the_United_States_to_Nazi_collaborators (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monuments_in_the_United_States_to_Nazi_collaborators)
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Onslow on March 22, 2023, 17:55:19 PM
Quote from: trout-r-us on March 15, 2023, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: Phil on March 14, 2023, 18:35:21 PMI will state, however, that I'm getting really tired of the term "woke." It's become a catch-all phrase to denigrate every conceivable issue that conservatives object to -- similar to describing everyone not in agreement with them as a "snowflake."

I've always viewed "woke" and "snowflake" as complimentary labels targeting folks that are informed, aware, sympathetic and caring for other humans, animals, and all of nature.




I see no relationship between the labels and your description.

My definitions

Snowflakes are mainly brittle people who cannot get along with people different then themselves.  They may prefer same sex sexual or life mate relationships because of being unwilling to get along, or tolerate those of the opposite sex.  They tend to be self centered, and are focused on making themselves comfortable. Conservative snowflakes  are also unwilling to get along, and tend to eat at chick-fil-a because they have a tribal image to maintain.

Woke folk are narcissists who believe they are culturally, and morally superior. The illiberal imposition of their ideals is their modus operandi. When you disagree, they will call you bigot, racist, and they will seek your destruction.  Like Trumpers, they are destroyers and not builders. They also lie, and are detached from reality like the Q peeps.  Many gravitate to protected communities (alphabet people) so they bully with impunity while cowardly hiding behind their protected status shield. They have an unquenchable thirst for power, seek to destroy the nuclear family, rewrite reality in terms of biology, and destroy traditional language. Wokers claim to be about science, but Richard Dawkins would disagree.  Dawkins said yesterday there are only two genders, and will continue to use "non-inclusive" pronouns. Many wokers also support youth transgender influencing which imo is monstrous and insidious. RuPaul was/is an artist who seemed to respectful of boundaries, and cared little about the business of influencing.  This new generation of gender benders are useful idiots serving on behalf of those who profit from chopping our youth.
Title: Re: Unlimited Wokeness
Post by: Trout Maharishi on March 22, 2023, 18:57:39 PM
Quote from: Onslow on March 22, 2023, 17:55:19 PM
Quote from: trout-r-us on March 15, 2023, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: Phil on March 14, 2023, 18:35:21 PMI will state, however, that I'm getting really tired of the term "woke." It's become a catch-all phrase to denigrate every conceivable issue that conservatives object to -- similar to describing everyone not in agreement with them as a "snowflake."

I've always viewed "woke" and "snowflake" as complimentary labels targeting folks that are informed, aware, sympathetic and caring for other humans, animals, and all of nature.




I see no relationship between the labels and your description.

My definitions

Snowflakes are mainly brittle people who cannot get along with people different then themselves.  They may prefer same sex sexual or life mate relationships because of being unwilling to get along, or tolerate those of the opposite sex.  They tend to be self centered, and are focused on making themselves comfortable. Conservative snowflakes frequent are also unwilling to get along, and tend to eat at chick-fil-a because they have a tribal image to maintain.

Woke folk are narcissists who believe they are culturally, and morally superior. The illiberal imposition of their ideals is their modus operandi. When you disagree, they will call you bigot, racist, and they will seek your destruction.  Like Trumpers, they are destroyers and not builders. They also lie, and are detached from reality like the Q peeps.  Many gravitate to protected communities (alphabet people) so they bully with impunity while cowardly hiding behind their protected status shield. They have an unquenchable thirst for power, seek to destroy the nuclear family, rewrite reality in terms of biology, and destroy traditional language. Wokers claim to be about science, but Richard Dawkins would disagree.  Dawkins said yesterday there are only two genders, and will continue to use "non-inclusive" pronouns. Many wokers also support youth transgender influencing which imo is monstrous and insidious. RuPaul was/is an artist who seemed to respectful of boundaries, and cared little about the business of influencing.  This new generation of gender benders are useful idiots serving on behalf of those who profit from chopping our youth.

Savage :cheers