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Title: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 06, 2021, 17:28:06 PM
I don't ever recall windows being broken or people getting shot during the vietnam war demonstrations. They were a lot more protesters in the halls of congress and they did interrupt the proceedings at times but not like todaay.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJtxzzOgN1w/?igshid=1u7sgzgdxbst0

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJt0c5XgcvB/?igshid=1v1yxmekgc1zj

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJt2sIOhll_/?igshid=c57ea5f4qos0

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJt3p0eHGQ_/?igshid=1ky5t1rcxgr09


https://www.instagram.com/p/CJt8ZzCAOO3/?igshid=1pfhafr3t5m8x

Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Phil on January 06, 2021, 17:38:35 PM
Sedition.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 17:41:23 PM
I guess the cops only use gas and rubber bullets on black folk.

Deplorable
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 06, 2021, 17:47:05 PM
Whitey privilege.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 06, 2021, 18:29:44 PM
Blood on Trump's hands

https://twitter.com/the_real_fly/status/1346915933584027652?s=21
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Big J on January 06, 2021, 18:33:57 PM
Sad
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 19:53:28 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 17:41:23 PMI guess the cops only use gas and rubber bullets on black folk.

Deplorable

IDK, I was swarmed two years ago by cops for speeding in a 20, had guns pointed at me in Charlotte because I was mistaken for a bank robber, and almost shot by a scared rookie cop in Durham because he thought I was pulling a stolen trailer. think I honestly thought I was going to be shot during the last incident.

My brother was harassed by cops as a youth.  I recall him getting pulled and having the car searched after leaving a church picnic. And there was much more.

People who are fixated on race should deal with their racial hang-ups in private.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 20:05:30 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 19:53:28 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 17:41:23 PMI guess the cops only use gas and rubber bullets on black folk.

Deplorable

IDK, I was swarmed two years ago by cops for speeding in a 20, had guns pointed at me in Charlotte because I was mistaken for a bank robber, and almost shot by a scared rookie cop in Durham because he thought I was pulling a stolen trailer. think I honestly thought I was going to be shot during the last incident.

My brother was harassed by cops as a youth.  I recall him getting pulled and having the car searched after leaving a church picnic. And there was much more.

People who are fixated on race should deal with their racial hang-ups in private.  Just sayin.

But yet never once were you guys shot. Lots of black folk in the same circumstances were not so lucky. Just sayin.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 06, 2021, 20:25:13 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 19:53:28 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 17:41:23 PMI guess the cops only use gas and rubber bullets on black folk.

Deplorable

IDK, I was swarmed two years ago by cops for speeding in a 20, had guns pointed at me in Charlotte because I was mistaken for a bank robber, and almost shot by a scared rookie cop in Durham because he thought I was pulling a stolen trailer. think I honestly thought I was going to be shot during the last incident.

My brother was harassed by cops as a youth.  I recall him getting pulled and having the car searched after leaving a church picnic. And there was much more.

People who are fixated on race should deal with their racial hang-ups in private.  Just sayin.

The issue of race, or race issues, are not an individual "people" fixation, "hang up", or problem.  It is entirely societal, a social construct, and if we, as individuals, do not address it openly there will never be a solution.  Unless you as an individual do not believe it is a quandary that justifies our attention.   Just sayin.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 20:43:45 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 20:05:30 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 19:53:28 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 17:41:23 PMI guess the cops only use gas and rubber bullets on black folk.

Deplorable

IDK, I was swarmed two years ago by cops for speeding in a 20, had guns pointed at me in Charlotte because I was mistaken for a bank robber, and almost shot by a scared rookie cop in Durham because he thought I was pulling a stolen trailer. think I honestly thought I was going to be shot during the last incident.

My brother was harassed by cops as a youth.  I recall him getting pulled and having the car searched after leaving a church picnic. And there was much more.

People who are fixated on race should deal with their racial hang-ups in private.  Just sayin.

But yet never once were you guys shot. Lots of black folk in the same circumstances were not so lucky. Just sayin.

You are Trumpy.  Full of bluster, inscendiary rhetoric, and not shooting straight with your narratives.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 06, 2021, 20:56:44 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 20:43:45 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 20:05:30 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 19:53:28 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 17:41:23 PMI guess the cops only use gas and rubber bullets on black folk.

Deplorable

IDK, I was swarmed two years ago by cops for speeding in a 20, had guns pointed at me in Charlotte because I was mistaken for a bank robber, and almost shot by a scared rookie cop in Durham because he thought I was pulling a stolen trailer. think I honestly thought I was going to be shot during the last incident.

My brother was harassed by cops as a youth.  I recall him getting pulled and having the car searched after leaving a church picnic. And there was much more.

People who are fixated on race should deal with their racial hang-ups in private.  Just sayin.

But yet never once were you guys shot. Lots of black folk in the same circumstances were not so lucky. Just sayin.

You are Trumpy.  Full of bluster, inscendiary rhetoric, and not shooting straight with your narratives.

What do expect when you yammer a prototypical white boy response?
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 06, 2021, 22:15:56 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJt8ZiNDiiN/?igshid=1g9w7l1k8w28h
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 07, 2021, 05:10:59 AM
A94D9352-E2A7-46EA-A120-273194CC2394.jpeg
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 07, 2021, 08:22:22 AM
Hey Ken, your post, now deleted, lasted long enough for me to see it.
 
Ken's deleted retort to my previous post: "Your response is lazy, cowardly, and incoherent.  I'm disappointed."

I'll turn the other cheek on "lazy" and "incoherent", and I'm not interested at all if you're "disappointed", but "cowardly" crosses my hillbilly, hayseed line.  "Cowardly" stirs the demon that's remained quiescent for years.   

Ponder carefully.  Are you completely sure you want to play hardball? 
   
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 07, 2021, 09:08:21 AM
From Tim Alberta  on Twitter:
"Imagine if Obama lost in 2012, spent the next two months inciting a coup and refusing to concede, and then hundreds of black protestors stormed the US Capitol building to try and stop the certification of his defeat.
Just...imagine."

White priviledge. Stoked by a racist, malignant narcissist.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 07, 2021, 09:48:44 AM
Quote from: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 20:43:45 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 20:05:30 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 06, 2021, 19:53:28 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 06, 2021, 17:41:23 PMI guess the cops only use gas and rubber bullets on black folk.

Deplorable

IDK, I was swarmed two years ago by cops for speeding in a 20, had guns pointed at me in Charlotte because I was mistaken for a bank robber, and almost shot by a scared rookie cop in Durham because he thought I was pulling a stolen trailer. think I honestly thought I was going to be shot during the last incident.

My brother was harassed by cops as a youth.  I recall him getting pulled and having the car searched after leaving a church picnic. And there was much more.

People who are fixated on race should deal with their racial hang-ups in private.  Just sayin.

But yet never once were you guys shot. Lots of black folk in the same circumstances were not so lucky. Just sayin.

You are Trumpy.  Full of bluster, inscendiary rhetoric, and not shooting straight with your narratives.

Oh wow! Aren't you a mean one. Just sayin!
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 07, 2021, 10:08:55 AM
(https://i.insider.com/5ff62d366d61c10019cce07e?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp)

>>>A photographer named Saul Loeb captured an image of a man carrying a large Confederate battle flag during the pro-Trump riot inside the US Capitol on Wednesday.

>>>Though the Confederate battle flag originated during the US Civil War, it never entered the Capitol during that time.

>>>Behind the man in the photo, two portraits reflect the fractured nation of the country during the 1860s.

>>>To the man's right is a portrait of Charles Sumner, an abolitionist. To his left is a portrait of John C. Calhoun, a defender of slavery.

https://www.businessinsider.com/photo-trump-supporter-riot-confederate-flag-us-capitol-2021-1
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Phil on January 07, 2021, 16:30:14 PM
This man broke into the capitol with zip-ties to take hostages and wearing a handgun. He was part of the Trump-incited mob of "patriotic" protestors. This is insurrection, domestic terrorism, and sedition. This is NOT "protecting democracy."
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/135461163_10218774459294559_1150772908521354231_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=JVcLA90StwMAX876jDM&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=c6b9d03cf2f489565a137d452e444a05&oe=601D25BD)
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 07, 2021, 17:12:57 PM
This girl apparently made some bad choices and fell in with conspiracy theorist groups. A damn shame.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ashli-babbit-husband-pays-tribute-141649583.html
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 07, 2021, 18:15:01 PM
I read that the other fatalities succumbed from being trampled in the mob.   
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 07, 2021, 18:23:42 PM
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 07, 2021, 19:26:25 PM
Cops seem rather weak. Appears to be some evidence of comaraderie between cops and bad guys, e.g. cops taking selfies with goons and opening doors to let them in.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 07, 2021, 19:48:54 PM
Just wait. Lots of unsavory activity will be outed. Military and police. The rot is deep.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 07, 2021, 22:15:47 PM
For Donald

https://youtu.be/YkKRU1ajKFA
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Sedition and Pockets on January 08, 2021, 07:35:37 AM
Quote from: troutrus on January 07, 2021, 19:26:25 PMCops seem rather weak. Appears to be some evidence of comaraderie between cops and bad guys, e.g. cops taking selfies with goons and opening doors to let them in.

What happened required, at the bare minimum, premeditated collaboration on the part of elements within the command staff of the Capitol Police, and probably in the Pentagon as well.  This was absolutely a botched coup attempt.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Sedition and Pockets on January 08, 2021, 07:38:10 AM
The memes are fire tho.

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJC4jMG6/tookitpersonally.jpg)
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 08, 2021, 09:21:33 AM
The Whole Story in a Single Photo
An image from the Capitol captures the distance between who we purport to be and who we have actually been.

(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/WTjcXEGu2RWg-kS0W_5x08zuEjw=/0x0:3925x2208/828x466/https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2021/01/crop2021_01_07T065619Z_780004832_RC2U2L9P24HR_RTRMADP_3_USA_ELECTION_CAPITOL_SECURITY/original.jpg)

>>>On Wednesday afternoon, as insurrectionists assaulted the Capitol, a man wearing a brown vest over a black sweatshirt walked through the halls of Congress with the Confederate battle flag hanging over his shoulder. One widely circulated photo captured him mid-stride, part of the flag almost glowing with the light coming from the hallway to his left. Just above and behind him is a photograph of Charles Sumner, the ardent abolitionist senator from Massachusetts.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/confederates-in-the-capitol/617594/
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 08, 2021, 11:02:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on January 07, 2021, 22:15:47 PMFor Donald

https://youtu.be/YkKRU1ajKFA

Brings back ol' memories. 1967- didn't have a pot to piss in but working my way through college on a temporary minimum wage job. Try that in 2021 and see how far you make it. No wife, no kids, no house payments, no car, or for that matter didn't even have a driver license, no cell phones. Didn't know shit from shinola, but as a student thought I had all the answers.
When it was suggested to make America great again, I was thinking we were headed back to those kind of times, which indicates I'm just a dreamer and apparently still don't know shit from shinola.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 08, 2021, 15:53:09 PM
FBI has put out wanted posters...

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Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 08, 2021, 16:04:59 PM
Quote from: Sedition and Pockets on January 08, 2021, 07:35:37 AMThis was absolutely a botched coup attempt.

I tend to think of as a Trump reality show w/cast pulled from an insane asylum.

Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 08, 2021, 18:25:28 PM
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/man-photographed-with-foot-on-desk-in-pelosis-office-is-arrested/

Barnett, who faces charges of violent entry and theft of public property, among other things
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 08, 2021, 20:13:26 PM
I have more twitter followers than 45!
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 08, 2021, 22:07:36 PM
Many of these whackos label themselves as patriots, which I find rather confusing.   A review of the word reflects a history of various interpretations/usage in the English language over the years.
Seems that at times it was necessary to use "good patriot" to describe a true patriot.
Maybe it's time to revisit that idea.

"For much of the 17th century, words like good were attached to patriot to distinguish patriots who shared both a love of country and a common allegiance from those having opposing beliefs and loyalties: to be deemed a "good patriot" was to be a lover of country who agreed on political and/or religious matters with whoever was doing the deeming."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriot






Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 08, 2021, 22:54:41 PM
one 'patriot" was in the halls of congress yelling "this is our house, this is Trump's house"  FTG
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 09, 2021, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: troutrus on January 08, 2021, 22:07:36 PMMany of these whackos label themselves as patriots, which I find rather confusing.   A review of the word reflects a history of various interpretations/usage in the English language over the years.
Seems that at times it was necessary to use "good patriot" to describe a true patriot.
Maybe it's time to revisit that idea.

"For much of the 17th century, words like good were attached to patriot to distinguish patriots who shared both a love of country and a common allegiance from those having opposing beliefs and loyalties: to be deemed a "good patriot" was to be a lover of country who agreed on political and/or religious matters with whoever was doing the deeming."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriot


Yep. I would venture to guess the majority of those who support this sacking are those who are depressed, disenfranchised, and feel humiliated because they are not successful monetarily, or socially.  Enter the storytellers....

The storytellers are the creators of narratives.  These folks are in high demand because the world makes no sense, and neither does life. Storytelling has been around for a while, but folks like Herbert Armstrong, Rush Limbaugh, and many others, have learned how to monetize storytelling in the most spectacular way. It is my understanding the brain becomes addicted to hormones the body produces when it's angry.  Stoking outrage has been mainstreamed.  There is much money to be made, and the beast will never be killed until the country implodes completely.

Folks on both sides of the political spectrum have jumped on this bandwagon. The price society is paying now, and will continue to be, unmanageable. 

I sincerely feel bad for blacks that are treated horribly, and have been excluded from so many rooms in the house, and are scapegoated so unfairly. I'm  also empathetic to those whites who came from dirt poor families who are scorned for being white and poor. Only the ultimate losers are both white and poor (white on white bigotry) in the eyes of society. However, I feel most depressed about the story of the Native Americans. They were truly shafted in the most spectacular way.  But no one seems to give a damn about them, not even black folk.

That being said, there is never any justification for anyone to destroy the property of another person, enterprise, or public institution, and unfortunately, those who desecrated the House of the People will point to the violence and destruction that was allowed to run unchecked at the hands of Antifa, and the faux BLM types.  The rioters in Chicago, Portland, and Seattle year were not social justice warriors, and the goons that stormed the White House are most certainly not patriots, but are delusional folk making poor choices.



Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 09, 2021, 05:58:30 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on January 08, 2021, 20:13:26 PMI have more twitter followers than 45!

Is not twitter for twits and twats between the ages of twelve and twenty only?
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 09, 2021, 06:45:04 AM
 :laugh:

Karen from Knoxville  p;-

https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1346919171595137025?s=21


Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 09, 2021, 08:07:25 AM
Quote from: Onslow on January 09, 2021, 05:58:30 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on January 08, 2021, 20:13:26 PMI have more twitter followers than 45!

Is not twitter for twits and twats between the ages of twelve and twenty only?

So which one are you calling me?
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 09, 2021, 08:49:14 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on January 07, 2021, 18:15:01 PMI read that the other fatalities succumbed from being trampled in the mob.   

"I put my arm underneath her and was pulling her out and then another guy fell on top of her, and another guy was just walking [on top of her]," he described. "There were people stacked 2-3 deep... people just crushed."
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/family-member-trump-supporter-trampled-043623716.html
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 09, 2021, 09:24:58 AM
https://youtu.be/WAMMiCe35-Y
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Phil on January 09, 2021, 09:42:23 AM
Racism plays a big part in this shit show.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/storming-the-u-s-capitol-was-about-maintaining-white-power-in-america/?fbclid=IwAR2l4w1YJh1kQPsOf68klvkyiR_-N7ZglpNnWNjpUltE-zZHf4pGaOtKHXc (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/storming-the-u-s-capitol-was-about-maintaining-white-power-in-america/?fbclid=IwAR2l4w1YJh1kQPsOf68klvkyiR_-N7ZglpNnWNjpUltE-zZHf4pGaOtKHXc)
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 09, 2021, 09:56:55 AM
All this talk of Twitter and tweets reminds me of a personal story – might get a yuk or 2 and add some lightheartedness to this screwed up era ("shit show") we're tackling.

It was my last fall semester (2015) of instruction at VT.  The setting was McBryde 100 (any Hokie is familiar), a large auditorium seating ~500.  The class was Insects and Human Society, an entomology course for the non-science major.

First day of class was the only day I'd address the class from the stage; the remainder of the semester I'd mingle through the auditorium, miked up, with laser pointer in hand.  On the first day I'd review the class syllabus, grading, attendance policy, etc. and give them my dog-and-pony-show speech about how the syllabus was essentially an unsigned contract between me and them.  My "contractual' responsibility was to show up ready to enthusiastically teach every day of class and their obligation was to show up ready to learn --- simple agreement.

On the first day, after all the formalities, I'd disclose many of the chinks in my armor, exhibiting decorum of course.  I never revealed my lust for Katy Perry or my toe ring fetish – stuff like that.  My flip phone, which I still have, was the ice breaker.  I'd whip it out, show the students, and ask how many apps that thought I had.  Their answer was always 1 or 2 or the correct answer of none.

This particular opening day of fall semester, I told the class (~75% freshmen) that I was not on Facebook, I did not tweet, and I did not twerk.  A handful of the young females on the front row started to giggle, so I inquired why they were laughing.  One of the gals stated they could not imagine me twerking.  I then responded maybe I did not know what twerking was and is it not a derivative of tweeting.  A resounding 'no' followed by mass laughter.  I was then directed by the class to visit Miley Cyrus after class when I returned to the office. 

I remain lightyears behind when it comes to pop culture. 
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 09, 2021, 11:15:56 AM
Wingnuts

https://apple.news/AYeM7cEfxQs6SNvjJILH3Og

DC867D38-43E1-492D-818A-ABB1829F600E.png
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 09, 2021, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Phil on January 09, 2021, 09:42:23 AMRacism plays a big part in this shit show.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/storming-the-u-s-capitol-was-about-maintaining-white-power-in-america/?fbclid=IwAR2l4w1YJh1kQPsOf68klvkyiR_-N7ZglpNnWNjpUltE-zZHf4pGaOtKHXc (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/storming-the-u-s-capitol-was-about-maintaining-white-power-in-america/?fbclid=IwAR2l4w1YJh1kQPsOf68klvkyiR_-N7ZglpNnWNjpUltE-zZHf4pGaOtKHXc)

LBJ summarized it best:

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."


― Lyndon B. Johnson
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 09, 2021, 11:41:14 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on January 09, 2021, 11:15:56 AMWingnuts

https://apple.news/AYeM7cEfxQs6SNvjJILH3Og

DC867D38-43E1-492D-818A-ABB1829F600E.png

If he ends up sitting in a prison cell, he may have time to read about how his compatriots were referred to as suckers and losers by trumpsky.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 09, 2021, 12:59:05 PM
The Q

How many parents are deeply concerned about their kids being exposed, and hooked on this shit?

I'm hearing up to 25 percent of teens is some locales are indulging. 
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 09, 2021, 14:49:20 PM
I'm surprisingly confident in the covid vaccines we are scheduled to receive.  But this sort of lack of rational behavior will follow us forever until we find an inoculation for gullibility, stupidity, and ignorance, which ain't going to happen in our lifetime.   

Tomorrow, I am headed to my favorite location on earth, the confluence of Back Creek and Little Back Creek.  I am not taking a rod or any gear other than a bag of Red Man sugarless chew, my pipe, and my smoke.  I am going to settle my ass on a big flat rock, watch the water, and persuade myself, as I've done multiple times, why I should give a fuck.   
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 10, 2021, 20:27:10 PM
QuoteThe U.S. Secret Service is investigating death threats against Vice President Mike Pence made by pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood, Fox News has learned.

Wood, who was banned from Twitter last week, is suspected of writing a now-deleted post on Parler: "Get the firing squads ready. Pence goes FIRST."


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-investigative-death-threats-against-pence
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 11, 2021, 11:30:36 AM
That's a darn shame after the man kissed the bosses ass for five years.

Hope he stays safe, but I'm sure if anything happens the holy ones will offer up thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 11, 2021, 11:34:12 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 09, 2021, 14:49:20 PMTomorrow, I am headed to my favorite location on earth, the confluence of Back Creek and Little Back Creek. 

After the creekside rumination, I am sorry to say the only revelations were all entirely irrelevant.  Water continues to flow downslope, flat thin creek rocks make the best skippers, it is darned chilly if you're forced to urinate outdoors this time of year, and my nut cannon feels much smaller when it is cold. 

Family, friends, a new fly line, and the anticipation of spring turkeys will heal my scarred temperament. 

All you folks take care and nil carborundum illegitimi.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 11, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9uDfuph.jpg)
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 11, 2021, 13:14:44 PM
https://www.rt.com/usa/512152-parler-hacker-data-leak/

And they didn't see this coming.... :-X


 
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 11, 2021, 13:20:47 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 11, 2021, 13:14:44 PMhttps://www.rt.com/usa/512152-parler-hacker-data-leak/

And they didn't see this coming.... :-X


 

Ho Lee Fuk  d:b
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: troutrus on January 11, 2021, 14:51:00 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 11, 2021, 11:34:12 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 09, 2021, 14:49:20 PMTomorrow, I am headed to my favorite location on earth, the confluence of Back Creek and Little Back Creek. 

After the creekside rumination, I am sorry to say the only revelations were all entirely irrelevant.  Water continues to flow downslope, flat thin creek rocks make the best skippers, it is darned chilly if you're forced to urinate outdoors this time of year, and my nut cannon feels much smaller when it is cold. 

Family, friends, a new fly line, and the anticipation of spring turkeys will heal my scarred temperament. 

All you folks take care and nil carborundum illegitimi.

Hope ya didn't go to building any of those dern cairns out of those flat thin rocks.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 11, 2021, 15:09:30 PM
https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/video-shows-capitol-rioter-hit-officer-with-fire-extinguisher/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

NSFW
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 11, 2021, 17:27:44 PM
for comparison purposes only...


Mayday Stop The War Demonstrations 1971
 
start at 24:54 to see the 1971 siege of the capitol

https://youtu.be/pQzgchtpUFc?t=1496

or watch the whole thing...

https://youtu.be/pQzgchtpUFc



Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 11, 2021, 20:18:51 PM
Quintessential hypocrisy and posturing!!!!!  Real bullshit!!!  Now they want the "ability to heal"?

I'm reminded of Ruby's words (Cold Mountain):  "But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say 'Shit, it's raining!'"

"South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, who has been a staunch supporter of Trump and only broke with him Wednesday night on the Senate floor, said he believed that "impeachment would further destroy our ability to heal and start over."

Graham said Trump "moved the country in the right direction last night with his statement" and, like Brady and Cruz, placed the onus on Biden — rather than the president himself or Congress — to correct course."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-are-calling-for-impeachment-following-trump-incited-riot-some-republicans-want-e2-80-98unity-e2-80-99-instead/ar-BB1cCWTs?ocid=uxbndlbing

Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: greg on January 11, 2021, 21:26:40 PM
Lindsey is an ass kissing piece of shit. He was John McCain's best friend until about two minutes after McCain's funeral. Then he had his nose up trumps ass.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 11, 2021, 21:56:37 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mob-failure/2021/01/11/36a46e2e-542e-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html

>>> The man who vowed to be a president of law and order failed to enforce the law or restore order. The man who has always seen himself as the protector of uniformed police sat idly by as Capitol Police officers were outnumbered, outmaneuvered, trampled on — and in one case, killed. And the man who had long craved the power of the presidency abdicated many of the responsibilities of the commander in chief, even having to be prodded into belatedly calling up reinforcements from the National Guard.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 12, 2021, 17:52:44 PM
The clock started ticking faster. A tipping point has been reached.  :wave
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 12, 2021, 18:35:48 PM
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Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 12, 2021, 18:39:52 PM
Quote from: Dougfish on January 12, 2021, 17:52:44 PMThe clock started ticking faster. A tipping point has been reached.  :wave
Yes, it has. Brought on by the hypocrites who spent the last four years trying to overturn an election, and all last year actively inciting and supporting and having orgasms over riots, looting, burning, blocking public highways, and pulling innocent folks out of cars and killing and beating them. Until the shoe is on the other foot. Canceling the president of the US, calling for expulsion of duly elected representatives, changing election laws, and etc. When they start the gun confiscation crap, blood will flow, and I will be dead. I hope y'all enjoy your totalitarian socialist regime. I will not be back here after seeing y'all revel in this crap. I assume this will be deleted and I will be cancelled, per y'alls belief system. People are fed up. Go for it.  What happened the other day and why it actually happened (hint: it has nothing to do with Trump and will not go away when he is gone,) will be ignored. At the cost of spilled blood, I'm afraid. Unity? Bullshit. It's called divide and conquer. They don't want unity. They want total control. And for those who don't agree with them to go away. Or better yet, be imprisoned or die.

America isn't just those blue dots.The rest of it matters, too. My heart cries for my country, which no longer exists. It's just whatever the urban liberals want now. Trump didn't cause anything. Trump was manifested by a hundred million disenfranchised Americans who were born in America and woke up one day in Russia or China. For the first time in my life, I have absolutely no hope for the future. We are fucked.

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Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 12, 2021, 19:48:45 PM
For every action (force) in nature there is an equal and opposite reaction.

During early 2019, Nick Sandmann was accused of various things by certain media outlets.  Remarks by at least one commentator suggested he deserved to be physically violated.  Nick was a minor.  Lawsuits were leveled, and won. In the eyes of the courts, certain outlets were deemed slanderous. I believe we can all agree Trump is full of shit, but some of Trumps critics in the media are equally full of shit. Trump talks shit, but CNN in particular has a huge fact deficit, and spin problem.

After the George Floyd incident, opportunists who are bent on smashing norms, property, and others with aspirations to be petty dictators seized the opportunity to cause mayhem across the land. The justification for this violent acting out was dubious.  The real BLM protests that were not violent, and clearly legit.  During 2020, 432 whites were killed at the hands of police.  226 African Americans were killed.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/03/police-black-killings-homicide-rates-race-injustice-column/3235072001/

During the course of the year, there may have been one national story about a white person being killed by police. Whites dying at the hands of police just isn't newsworthy, and neither is the murder of a Mennonite mother at the hands of two black men.

The grasp for ratings, moral authority were sought aggressively. Yellow journalism, bigoted condemnation of whites as a race ensued, as well as the witch hunts. Zealots were doxing, reporting pictures of OK hand gestures in private residences which is a violation of the Right to Privacy.  While the riots, burning, brutality went on, then candidate Biden did not condemn the violence.  He finally did when there was pushback from armed militias. Justified bigotry worn by lefties was now fashionable, and normalized.

Simply opposing a very problematic POTUS dues not make one moral, just, or relevant. This has been the great Woke delusion. The lefty jackassery of recent years have provided wind for Trump's sails.  Hubris displaced rational thinking, and emotional intelligence.

Meanwhile others across the land were staying composed, and hoarding ammo. Bitterness, the lack of trust in our government began to grow, adding to the layers of establishment mistrust that started in earnest after NAFTA.

It is very clear that Trump lost the election due to his own incompetence. He also appeared to be the cause for the two Senate seat losses in GA. Trump also incited emotions, and eventually the zany and embarrassing aggression on the White House.  However, the events that have occurred in the last year has served as the primary catalyst for the impending disaster.

Tribalism is GAF.

Violence begets more violence, and the lack of trust. The Summer party is a conveniently distant memory, and much more violent season looms. The US is at a precipice. This nation has embraced a broad spectrum of bigotry, and this acid will devour our ribs, and heart.

We're at the cusp of a struggle that may be a cross between a Venezuela political struggle and a Rwandan genocide.  I hope I'm wrong, but we should come to terms with this possibility. Arnold stated that Nazi Germany was the most evil empire ever, but the percentage of murdered in Rwanda per capita was much higher.

Best wishes for 2021.  We earned it.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 12, 2021, 19:55:05 PM
It's called elections.
I've survived Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump. Rode a roller coaster this long. I'll weather Biden. I expect to survive with a good economy, a good stock market, return to civility, good fishing, all my guns, a better EPA, way better climate response, better civil rights, better immigration policies, better world standing, a re-adjustment of big tech for better competition, same for big ag, big pharma, big banking, big this and that, better taxing of those big business (which leads to getting out of this horrendous debt), more good fishing, better infrastructure, a better justice system, a better energy transformation, a better environment.
Sunshine, rainbows and unicorns? Nah. Good humans in charge. Positivity.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 12, 2021, 19:59:09 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 12, 2021, 19:48:45 PMFor every action (force) in nature there is an equal and opposite reaction.

During early 2019, Nick Sandmann was accused of various things by certain media outlets.  Remarks by at least one commentator suggested he deserved to be physically violated.  Nick was a minor.  Lawsuits were leveled, and won. In the eyes of the courts, certain outlets were deemed slanderous. I believe we can all agree Trump is full of shit, but some of Trumps critics in the media are equally full of shit. Trump talks shit, but CNN in particular has a huge fact deficit, and spin problem.

After the George Floyd incident, opportunists who are bent on smashing norms, property, and others with aspirations to be petty dictators seized the opportunity to cause mayhem across the land. The justification for this violent acting out was dubious.  The real BLM protests that were not violent, and clearly legit.  During 2020, 432 whites were killed at the hands of police.  226 African Americans were killed.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/03/police-black-killings-homicide-rates-race-injustice-column/3235072001/

During the course of the year, there may have been one national story about a white person being killed by police. Whites dying at the hands of police just isn't newsworthy, and neither is the murder of a Mennonite mother at the hands of two black men.

The grasp for ratings, moral authority were sought aggressively. Yellow journalism, bigoted condemnation of whites as a race ensued, as well as the witch hunts. Zealots were doxing, reporting pictures of OK hand gestures in private residences which is a violation of the Right to Privacy.  While the riots, burning, brutality went on, then candidate Biden did not condemn the violence.  He finally did when there was pushback from armed militias. Justified bigotry worn by lefties was now fashionable, and normalized.

Simply opposing a very problematic POTUS dues not make one moral, just, or relevant. This has been the great Woke delusion. The lefty jackassery of recent years have provided wind for Trump's sails, but clearly hubris clouded judgement, and emotional intelligence.

Meanwhile others across the land were staying composed, and hoarding ammo. Bitterness, the lack of trust in our government began to grow.

It is very clear that Trump lost the election due to his own incompetence. He also appeared to be the cause for the two Senate seat losses in GA. Trump also incited emotions, and eventually the zany and embarrassing aggression on the White House.  However, the events that have occurred in the last year has served as the primary catalyst for the impending disaster.

Tribalism is GAF.

Violence begets more violence, and the lack of trust. The Summer party is a conveniently distant memory, and much more violent season looms. The US is at a precipice. This nation has embraced a broad spectrum of bigotry, and this acid will devour our ribs, and heart.

We're at the cusp of a struggle that may be a cross between a Venezuela political struggle and a Rawandan genocide.  I hope I'm wrong, but we should come to terms with this possibility. Arnold stated that Nazi Germany was the most evil empire ever, but the percentage of murdered in Rawanda per capita was much higher.

Best wishes for 2021.  We earned it.

Pretty much. As long as people keep othering each other, it won't stop. Hypocrisy doesn't become anyone. We have forgotten that this is America, the melting pot. Except it doesn't melt any more. It just floats in clumps. And the media loves it. Nobody has any tolerance for anybody else any more, especially the ones with the Coexist stickers on their Subarus. Cancel culture is evil. We forget how much we have in common, while embracing the things we don't agree on.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 12, 2021, 20:02:59 PM
Quote from: Dougfish on January 12, 2021, 19:55:05 PMIt's called elections.
I've survived Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump. Rode a roller coaster this long. I'll weather Biden. I expect to survive with a good economy, a good stock market, return to civility, good fishing, all my guns, a better EPA, way better climate response, better civil rights, better immigration policies, better world standing, a re-adjustment of big tech for better competition, same for big ag, big pharma, big banking, big this and that, better taxing of those big business (which leads to getting out of this horrendous debt), more good fishing, better infrastructure, a better justice system, a better energy transformation, a better environment.
Sunshine, rainbows and unicorns? Nah. Good humans in charge. Positivity.
I wish I was as optimistic. I see the next four years as bringing a tanked economy, $5 a gallon gas, massive unemployment, gun control that makes felons out of millions of law abiding Americans who just want to be left alone, unfettered immigration, complete control over free speech and opposing opinions, globalism in control of our country, and an America that is divided like never before and ready to start shooting at each other. I hope that you're right and I'm wrong. 
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 12, 2021, 20:32:32 PM
I just walked outside, looked up the Back Creek valley at the stars.  I swear I heard them say, "I have given you CHNOPS: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur – all you need for life.  It is now up to you, and if you fuck it up, I really don't give a shit."

Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 12, 2021, 21:42:07 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 12, 2021, 20:32:32 PMI just walked outside, looked up the Back Creek valley at the stars.  I swear I heard them say, "I have given you CHNOPS: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur – all you need for life.  It is now up to you, and if you fuck it up, I really don't give a shit."


Yallerhammer likes this post. A lot. The same is true here in the Rabbit Skin Valley.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 12, 2021, 21:55:14 PM
You need to chuck some magnesium, calcium and phosphate (plus more) before you're good to go.
But hey,  'c; .
Sulfur is the sneaky one. Can't build DNA without it.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 12, 2021, 21:59:59 PM
Quote from: Dougfish on January 12, 2021, 21:55:14 PMYou need to chuck some magnesium, calcium and phosphate (plus more) before you're good to go.
But hey,  'c; .
Sulfur is the sneaky one. Can't build DNA without it.
What about silicon-based lifeforms?  :o
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 12, 2021, 22:00:39 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on January 12, 2021, 21:59:59 PM
Quote from: Dougfish on January 12, 2021, 21:55:14 PMYou need to chuck some magnesium, calcium and phosphate (plus more) before you're good to go.
But hey,  'c; .
Sulfur is the sneaky one. Can't build DNA without it.
What about silicon-based lifeforms?  :o
Like Nancy Pelosi?  :P
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 12, 2021, 22:16:20 PM
:Dance Keep bumping down that bitter, bitter road.
:cheers
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 13, 2021, 08:03:30 AM
I needed to sleep on some of the head scratching comments made last evening.   I, like many of you, worry about all our nation's warts, and often those worries border on the ridiculous.   

I have no recollection of personally "having orgasms over riots, looting, burning".  Any act of senseless destruction ain't good.  But comparing the looting of a 7-11 to what happened in D.C. last Wednesday makes absolutely no sense. 

Yes, I think we still have a problem with skin color.  I will not use the word race; I hate the fucking word.  I consider the way most use the word race a product of folk taxonomy, not science.  It is just another human construct. 

Yes, most of realize more whites are killed by police than blacks, but we also understand that blacks makeup 12-13% of our population and whites are ~64%.  And spouting the difference in the number of dead after praising the attributes of organizations like BLM in the same paragraph is just another "prototypical white boy response".    No, I do not have white guilt; I have human guilt.

We've all heard the same apocalyptic prognoses after every new elected president.  Will the predictions ever come true?  No idea, but I think we'll be ok.

Peace. 
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: itieuglyflies on January 13, 2021, 08:30:45 AM
I am so glad the trout don't give a shit about any of this....
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Beetle on January 13, 2021, 09:33:24 AM
"prototypical white boy response"

     
Please stop.    It's just so tired
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 13, 2021, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: Beetle on January 13, 2021, 09:33:24 AM"prototypical white boy response"

     
Please stop.    It's just so tired

Yellow spongebob blowing bubbles.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 13, 2021, 10:36:02 AM
so about that Parler Hack...

seems legit..

https://www.wired.com/story/parler-hack-data-public-posts-images-video/

>>>Parler's cardinal security sin is known as an insecure direct object reference, says Kenneth White, codirector of the Open Crypto Audit Project, who looked at the code of the download tool @donk_enby posted online. An IDOR occurs when a hacker can simply guess the pattern an application uses to refer to its stored data. In this case, the posts on Parler were simply listed in chronological order: Increase a value in a Parler post url by one, and you'd get the next post that appeared on the site. Parler also doesn't require authentication to view public posts and doesn't use any sort of "rate limiting" that would cut off anyone accessing too many posts too quickly. Together with the IDOR issue, that meant that any hacker could write a simple script to reach out to Parler's web server and enumerate and download every message, photo, and video in the order they were posted.


btw all of our post are sequentially numbered too

Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 13, 2021, 13:10:26 PM
Quote from: Onslow on January 13, 2021, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: Beetle on January 13, 2021, 09:33:24 AM"prototypical white boy response"

   
Please stop.    It's just so tired

Yellow spongebob blowing bubbles.

Don't like it?  Then halt the bullshit comments, or you can continue to exhibit no balls and delete your post after posting. or don't read my comments.  You all chose.  Both of you can kiss my ass.  I've lost many acquaintances because they've failed to cross the street, so the fate of you two is of no concern to me.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Beetle on January 13, 2021, 13:47:16 PM
A little testy this morning?   Just tired of you picking on everyone and passing judgement about people you hardly know.    It's not right.   
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 13, 2021, 14:24:01 PM
Quote from: Beetle on January 13, 2021, 13:47:16 PMA little testy this morning?  Just tired of you picking on everyone and passing judgement about people you hardly know.    It's not right. 

Everyone here is a grown, mature man.  Surely everyone can defend themselves.

Picking on everyone?!?!?  For the love of St Peter, is this grade school?
 
You are however correct.  I don't really know many of you, only your words.  And few truly know me, only my words.  Permission granted to all to pass judgement on me for my comments.  For you biblical scholars didn't John say "Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly."  Let's judge each other correctly; I select to judge the callus, myopic remarks.

If I have offended anyone, I have but a few words – grow a pair!  Or kick me off.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Beetle on January 13, 2021, 14:47:07 PM
It's all good.   This is a fishing board right?   

We really need to have another trip to Grindstone.......
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 13, 2021, 16:10:05 PM
I will organize said trip. It probably won't happen until fall.
All you farkers need to get vaccinated and flea dipped, first.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Onslow on January 13, 2021, 20:27:22 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 13, 2021, 14:24:01 PM
Quote from: Beetle on January 13, 2021, 13:47:16 PMA little testy this morning?  Just tired of you picking on everyone and passing judgement about people you hardly know.    It's not right. 

Everyone here is a grown, mature man.  Surely everyone can defend themselves.

Picking on everyone?!?!?  For the love of St Peter, is this grade school?
 
You are however correct.  I don't really know many of you, only your words.  And few truly know me, only my words.  Permission granted to all to pass judgement on me for my comments.  For you biblical scholars didn't John say "Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly."  Let's judge each other correctly; I select to judge the callus, myopic remarks.

If I have offended anyone, I have but a few words – grow a pair!  Or kick me off.

What is callused? Various influential people, mostly media folk, getting folks worked up for their own monetary profit, or to shove their little dicks various asses. Limbaugh, CNN, WP, NYT,  Fox, all of them!  I was merely pointing out very purposefully imbalanced reporting so certain results could be achieved.  Very little had to do with the benefit of the oppressed in this country. Secondly imbalanced reporting benefits critics of the free press, and further divides the nation.  Trumpism with thrive as long as this nonsense continues. I want neither, and doubt you do either.  We have that much in common.

Stephen, I have more respect for you than you know.  I'll try not to flick your ears from this point forward :cheers
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 13, 2021, 21:13:08 PM
Another post you'll delete?  'c;
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 14, 2021, 08:55:33 AM
Quote from: Onslow on January 13, 2021, 20:27:22 PMStephen, I have more respect for you than you know.  I'll try not to flick your ears from this point forward :cheers

No, please don't.  I regularly deserve to have my ears flicked, by you, John, and all others.    I have many chinks in my armor and the wife has lost her desire to flick.  Indifference is a bitch. 

Johns's suggestion and Doug's coordinated Grindstone fall bash is a great idea.  I promise I will attend if it is indeed an autumn affair.  We can crawl in the jug, howl at the moon, bust on the Boss for tinkering with a forum that is working perfectly fine after he has displayed his womanly side by fixing supper, check Big J's luggage to see if his wife packed his underwear, weasel Yaller out of all his guns for pennies before the feds come for them, rag on Doug and Fin for being nothing more than glorified florists, check the validity of Grayson's gout, interrogate troutrus and me to see if we are really lefty socialists,  receive the status report from John on the missing Flats, complete the betting board on Transy's upright, breathing condition, check the campground for mountain lion tracks, quiz you on the daily cfs of the Yadkin over the last century, welcome and belittle the old that we know, welcome and belittle those just met, let the beer elitists argue brews while the rest of us take a piss, have Phil play us a lullaby, and then pass out. 

All respect is mutual.
Title: Re: What a shit show.
Post by: Dougfish on January 17, 2021, 08:52:28 AM
FYI.
Grindstone is closed for 2021. Complete renovation of facilities.
Beartree, closer to Damascus is the best option.
SRTU will be there in April. I can evaluate then.