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Title: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 18, 2020, 10:20:37 AM
Small pole?

I am so proud of Big J's brother, and his high school pals, that still work in Atlanta.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/male-strippers-urge-georgia-voters-to-get-your-pole-to-the-polls-for-runoff-election-video/ar-BB1c1ACG?ocid=msedgntp
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Big J on December 18, 2020, 10:29:31 AM
 :laugh:   Funny you said that because my youngest brother just started a new job today.  All my High School friends are too fat and ugly to strip though.  Wrestlers as soon as they are done wrestling tend to pack on a 100 lbs due to wrecked metabolisms and poor diets after years of being on diets/starving themselves.  They end up looking like Grayson after maybe or maybe not having gout (can anyone confirm the gout?) or Hiner after Fatback Soul Shack opens up.
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: driver on December 18, 2020, 19:31:24 PM
Fatback Soul Shack! This sounds amazing.
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Big J on December 19, 2020, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: driver on December 18, 2020, 19:31:24 PMFatback Soul Shack! This sounds amazing.

It's pretty darn good. If you ever are coming up 81 thru Blacksburg it's right off 81 there. Worth a stop. The collard greens is what got Hiner.
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 19, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: Big J on December 19, 2020, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: driver on December 18, 2020, 19:31:24 PMFatback Soul Shack! This sounds amazing.

It's pretty darn good. If you ever are coming up 81 thru Blacksburg it's right off 81 there. Worth a stop. The collard greens is what got Hiner.

Yes, they serve very good greens.  I have not had the Shack's greens since I left the area in 2016, but they reminded me of my grandmother's, and one of many regrets from my youth.

My granny would take her grand kids to pick all sort of greens around the farm.  We'd carry the basket and she'd pick.  I should have paid attention.  The only green-like stuff I remember picking is watercress, likely because it only needed a good rinsing, then slapped on a bread with potted meat for instant satisfaction.
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 19, 2020, 09:47:05 AM
Crafted, a Taco / Burger / Bar in Winston Salem served up some delicious Duck Fat Braised Collards!

Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Aka on December 19, 2020, 16:17:34 PM
Quote from: Big J on December 19, 2020, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: driver on December 18, 2020, 19:31:24 PMFatback Soul Shack! This sounds amazing.

It's pretty darn good. If you ever are coming up 81 thru Blacksburg it's right off 81 there. Worth a stop. The collard greens is what got Hiner.

Yeah man! I checked the menu, looks legit. I have a project in Lynchburg starting in a few weeks. Will def. check it out on the way through.
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Beetle on December 19, 2020, 19:43:38 PM
What is the deal with Virginians and potted meat?    Mary's dad loved it
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 20, 2020, 11:17:59 AM
Quote from: Beetle on December 19, 2020, 19:43:38 PMWhat is the deal with Virginians and potted meat?    Mary's dad loved it

Yes, and I have a theory.  I believe some thought of potted meat as the poor's pâté, often served with watercress.

I was on a dove hunt many moons back, and this crazy Austrian served us lunch.  One of the treats was pâté and cress.  I immediately thought of the potted meat/watercress sandwiches of my youth.

A carryover from our European ancestry?
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 20, 2020, 15:09:29 PM
Quote from: Beetle on December 19, 2020, 19:43:38 PMWhat is the deal with Virginians and potted meat?    Mary's dad loved it

I thought it was a southern thing, I never had a Vienna Sausage, until moving to NC :o

I was like, "what the fuk" you eat this as a snack...  -p-
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: driver on December 21, 2020, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 20, 2020, 11:17:59 AM
Quote from: Beetle on December 19, 2020, 19:43:38 PMWhat is the deal with Virginians and potted meat?    Mary's dad loved it

You sure it wasn't just mashed Vienna Sausages? I mean he was Austrian.

Yes, and I have a theory.  I believe some thought of potted meat as the poor's pâté, often served with watercress.

I was on a dove hunt many moons back, and this crazy Austrian served us lunch.  One of the treats was pâté and cress.  I immediately thought of the potted meat/watercress sandwiches of my youth.

A carryover from our European ancestry?
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Aka on December 21, 2020, 13:55:26 PM
https://youtu.be/MFAg-O_ulKg
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Michael Toris on December 25, 2020, 21:52:18 PM
Lot of shit talkin' going in in this thread....
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Onslow on December 26, 2020, 08:05:41 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 20, 2020, 11:17:59 AM
Quote from: Beetle on December 19, 2020, 19:43:38 PMWhat is the deal with Virginians and potted meat?    Mary's dad loved it

Yes, and I have a theory.  I believe some thought of potted meat as the poor's pâté, often served with watercress.

I was on a dove hunt many moons back, and this crazy Austrian served us lunch.  One of the treats was pâté and cress.  I immediately thought of the potted meat/watercress sandwiches of my youth.

A carryover from our European ancestry?

Seems odd I don't recall consuming watercress. My MIL and wife are hard core subsistence farming stock. My wife has eaten snapping turtle, groundhog, raccoon, opossum while living on the farm, therefor one could assume their foraging would have brought them to watercress, but that is not the case. I'm shall research water cress. My MIL did plant a pile of turnips in the garden this past Fall. We tend to favor mustard, turnip greens, and collards.

Regarding meats, pork brains were used in gravy frequently by my MIL's family. Souse meat was occasionally  made, but fatback was used three meals a day.  This clan was largely from the central-northern British Isles, w/a considerable amount of Scandi blood showing up.

My deceased FIL was an old school Moravian farmer whose ancestors hailed from Baden (Deutschland), and was a neighborhood legend for his furniture making, and pork products, but he stuck with the traditional hams, and ground sausage. No weird shit.

Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: driver on December 26, 2020, 09:27:17 AM
I was given this book as a Christmas Present yesterday. I found it mind blowing what is actually edible.

https://amzn.to/2WLPznB
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 26, 2020, 09:38:14 AM
Quote from: driver on December 26, 2020, 09:27:17 AMI was given this book as a Christmas Present yesterday. I found it mind blowing what is actually edible.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1604694998/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_4B05FbZ1EFWQQ

I bet my wife's cooking ain't in that book. 

An interesting thread might be the "odd" foods we recall (or still consume) from our rearing, or youth.   
   
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 26, 2020, 10:22:14 AM
Quote from: driver on December 26, 2020, 09:27:17 AMI was given this book as a Christmas Present yesterday. I found it mind blowing what is actually edible.

https://amzn.to/2WLPznB

Let us know which ones you try...

In Eric Rudolph's story he claims to have processed acorns, leaching the tannins, and storing them for use throughout the winter but I have my doubts to the truth of his story of survival..

Has anybody here eaten acorns?
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Onslow on December 26, 2020, 11:36:26 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on December 26, 2020, 10:22:14 AM
Quote from: driver on December 26, 2020, 09:27:17 AMI was given this book as a Christmas Present yesterday. I found it mind blowing what is actually edible.

https://amzn.to/2WLPznB

Let us know which ones you try...

In Eric Rudolph's story he claims to have processed acorns, leaching the tannins, and storing them for use throughout the winter but I have my doubts to the truth of his story of survival..

Has anybody here eaten acorns?

https://www.organicfacts.net/acorns-edible.html

Hot Water Leaching
Hot water leaching is a rapid process, but it doesn't result in as high-quality of an acorn, nor will the resulting flour be as effective, if your intention is to make a nutrient-dense flour with the nuts. However, hot leaching can be done relatively quickly.

Step 1: Fill a pot with the acorns you wish to leach, filling no more than 1/3 of the pot.
Step 2: Pour water into the pot to the 2/3 mark and bring to a boil.
Step 3: The water will turn brown as the acorns are boiled.
Step 4: Dump the water and re-fill the pot with fresh water.
Step 5: Repeat the boiling and dumping process at least 3-4 times, until the bitterness is removed from the acorns.
Step 6: In some acorns, this can take 8-10 rounds of boiling.
Cold Water Leaching
While cold water leaching requires a bit more effort, experts and those who cook often with these nuts say that this is how to get the highest-quality acorns for cooking. If you are planning to use the nuts and grind them into a flour, the cold leaching approach is the best. There are two main approaches to cold water leaching – one using a toilet tank, and the other using a jar. [7]

Toilet Tank

Step 1: Empty the back of your toilet tank and scrub it thoroughly.
Step 2: Add the shelled acorns to a cheesecloth and tie it.
Step 3: Hang the acorns bag in the toilet tank so it is submerged when the tank fills up.
Step 4: Each time the tank fills and flushes, it will leach more and more of the tannins from the nuts.
Step 5: This could take days or weeks, depending on how often you use your toilet.
Jar Method

Step 1: You will need to grind the acorns into powder using a hand mill or food processor.
Step 2: Add the powdered acorns into a large sealable jar.
Step 3: Fill the jar the rest of the way with tap water.
Step 4: Shake the jar and place in the refrigerator.
Step 5: Wait 24 hours and then slowly pour out the tannin-filled water.
Step 6: Repeat this process 3-4 times, then taste the acorn meal.
Step 7: Some overly bitter acorns will require 6-7 rounds of this process.
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 26, 2020, 11:42:20 AM
@Onslow, I know how it's done, Eric described Hot water leaching... I know he had a lot of "free" time on his hands, but he was building fires all the time, or so he says...


p.s. I have no desire to eat acorns..
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Onslow on December 26, 2020, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on December 26, 2020, 11:42:20 AM@Onslow, I know how it's done, Eric described Hot water leaching... I know he had a lot of "free" time on his hands, but he was building fires all the time, or so he says...


p.s. I have no desire to eat acorns..

I tend to agree with your gut feeling about his supposed years in the wild.  I suspect he was living in someone's basement, and cooking acorns in the backyard due to boredom when not smoking weed.



Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 26, 2020, 17:04:41 PM
Quote from: Onslow on December 26, 2020, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on December 26, 2020, 11:42:20 AM@Onslow, I know how it's done, Eric described Hot water leaching... I know he had a lot of "free" time on his hands, but he was building fires all the time, or so he says...


p.s. I have no desire to eat acorns..

I tend to agree with your gut feeling about his supposed years in the wild.  I suspect he was living in someone's basement, and cooking acorns in the backyard due to boredom when not smoking weed.





Then again he did have all that dynamite stashed all over the woods

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/eric-rudolph-new-evidence/

I don't know if they ever found any huge caches of food at the many camps he describes in his jailhouse writings
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Big J on January 10, 2021, 14:55:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qPG3rcl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EOFQpTe.jpg)

Had to go to Blacksburg to pick up a bassinet for the new addition and just had to stop.
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 16, 2021, 07:33:13 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 19, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: Big J on December 19, 2020, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: driver on December 18, 2020, 19:31:24 PMFatback Soul Shack! This sounds amazing.

It's pretty darn good. If you ever are coming up 81 thru Blacksburg it's right off 81 there. Worth a stop. The collard greens is what got Hiner.

Yes, they serve very good greens.  I have not had the Shack's greens since I left the area in 2016, but they reminded me of my grandmother's, and one of many regrets from my youth.

My granny would take her grand kids to pick all sort of greens around the farm.  We'd carry the basket and she'd pick.  I should have paid attention.  The only green-like stuff I remember picking is watercress, likely because it only needed a good rinsing, then slapped on a bread with potted meat for instant satisfaction.
My mom and grandma were big on wild greens. They were always out picking something, and had me helping them. No watercress around here, but we ate tons of branch lettuce (brook saxifrage.) Also poke sallet, creasy greens, sochan, yellow dock, dandelions, stinging nettles, ramps, and a bunch of other similar stuff.
Title: Re: What happened to Big J?
Post by: Yallerhammer on January 16, 2021, 07:34:24 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on December 26, 2020, 10:22:14 AM
Quote from: driver on December 26, 2020, 09:27:17 AMI was given this book as a Christmas Present yesterday. I found it mind blowing what is actually edible.

https://amzn.to/2WLPznB

Let us know which ones you try...

In Eric Rudolph's story he claims to have processed acorns, leaching the tannins, and storing them for use throughout the winter but I have my doubts to the truth of his story of survival..

Has anybody here eaten acorns?
Yes. Edible after a lot of work, but certainly no gourmet fare.