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Fly Fishing BS => The Gravel Bar => Topic started by: Jfey on January 29, 2018, 17:39:01 PM

Title: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Jfey on January 29, 2018, 17:39:01 PM
I'll be there toward the end of March for Spring Break.   Wife, kids and Inlaws will be in tow; but they are usually pretty cool with me getting in some fishing time.   

Anyone have any insight?   I'm considering a guide, but would prefer DIY so I don't have to drop the $$.   Will probably bring my kayak.   I've researched online, but any direct knowledge is always helpful.  Thanks in advance d:b d:b d:b d:b d:b
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: driver on January 29, 2018, 17:50:25 PM
Quote from: Jfey on January 29, 2018, 17:39:01 PM
I'll be there toward the end of March for Spring Break.   Wife, kids and Inlaws will be in tow; but they are usually pretty cool with me getting in some fishing time.   

Anyone have any insight?   I'm considering a guide, but would prefer DIY so I don't have to drop the $$.   Will probably bring my kayak.   I've researched online, but any direct knowledge is always helpful.  Thanks in advance d:b d:b d:b d:b d:b
I had to google this to find out where it is. So.. not gonna be much help.

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Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Jfey on January 29, 2018, 20:25:07 PM
Quote from: driver on January 29, 2018, 17:50:25 PM
Quote from: Jfey on January 29, 2018, 17:39:01 PM
I'll be there toward the end of March for Spring Break.   Wife, kids and Inlaws will be in tow; but they are usually pretty cool with me getting in some fishing time.   

Anyone have any insight?   I'm considering a guide, but would prefer DIY so I don't have to drop the $$.   Will probably bring my kayak.   I've researched online, but any direct knowledge is always helpful.  Thanks in advance d:b d:b d:b d:b d:b
I had to google this to find out where it is. So.. not gonna be much help.

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Spoiler.   Its on the Georgia coast.  Never been there.   Per Google there are good numbers of triple tail which could be interesting.   Might be a little early for them tho.   If nothing else, I'll chuck clousers at the normal looking spots.
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Mstash on January 29, 2018, 20:46:11 PM
Quote from: Jfey on January 29, 2018, 17:39:01 PM
I'll be there toward the end of March for Spring Break.   Wife, kids and Inlaws will be in tow; but they are usually pretty cool with me getting in some fishing time.   

Anyone have any insight?   I'm considering a guide, but would prefer DIY so I don't have to drop the $$.   Will probably bring my kayak.   I've researched online, but any direct knowledge is always helpful.  Thanks in advance d:b d:b d:b d:b d:b

Dave Edens at Fly Cast Charters
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Big J on January 29, 2018, 20:53:42 PM
I went on a middle school field trip there. Hope that helps you out.
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Onslow on January 29, 2018, 21:32:19 PM
Ask about the water quality form multiple sources before you go.  I went to Jekyll a couple years ago, and the water quality was horrible.  I'm talking manure lagoon horrible.  I asked the hotel employees about the water, and was informed it had been that way for years, and no one swims in the water.
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: The Dude on January 30, 2018, 05:58:18 AM
Southern Soul Barbecue


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Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Jfey on January 30, 2018, 07:58:16 AM
Southern Soul is on the agenda.  Hopefully multiple times.

J, is there a good museum you can recommend?

Dave is who I would call if I go the guide route.

I'll try to avoid the manure lagoons.   Water will be too cold to swim anyway.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: The Dude on January 30, 2018, 08:18:35 AM
I don't know a whole lot about the area, but several years ago I fished in a kayak tournament there with a friend who had some local intel (may-ish timeframe).

We put in at the boat launch on Harrington (I think) and fished the Village Creek drainage.  We went up one small creek and found a nice little hole using live shrimp on the rising tide.  But paddling in on low tide was barely doable in a kayak.  N31.20083 W81.33578 & N31.20083 W81.33701

They have really big tide swings there (like 8') so it is good to go out on low tide and scout around and mark the large oyster bars to come back and fish during either side of the high tide.  Here are a few locations that are pretty obvious, with large oyster bars.  N31.20768 W81.34167 & N31.21031 & 81.34950

For fly fishing, the best advice I got was to use clousers around the oyster bars and let them sink to the bottom.  Slowly strip them and when they start to get hung on oysters, rip the shit out of it and that is when you get most of the strikes.  As for tailing reds in the mud, there is a fly pattern that they swear by down there that is a crab imitation.  I can't remember the exact name, but it was like toad fly or something like that.

Take it fwiw, we did not win any money in the tournament.  I wish I knew the place we went to pick up our live shrimp and crabs.  It was in the middle of nowhere down a dirt road and was open at like 5AM, but my mind has become mush over the years.
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Big J on January 30, 2018, 09:14:59 AM
If you have time, go down to Cumberland Island.  Lots of good trails on Island, you'll see wild horses.  Can take a tour of Island.  Kids would like that.

Saint Simons Lighthouse Museum if your into that. 

Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Big J on January 30, 2018, 09:17:45 AM
https://www.nps.gov/cuis/planyourvisit/guidedtours.htm (https://www.nps.gov/cuis/planyourvisit/guidedtours.htm)
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Jfey on January 30, 2018, 09:22:17 AM
Quote from: The Dude on January 30, 2018, 08:18:35 AM
I don't know a whole lot about the area, but several years ago I fished in a kayak tournament there with a friend who had some local intel (may-ish timeframe).

We put in at the boat launch on Harrington (I think) and fished the Village Creek drainage.  We went up one small creek and found a nice little hole using live shrimp on the rising tide.  But paddling in on low tide was barely doable in a kayak.  N31.20083 W81.33578 & N31.20083 W81.33701

They have really big tide swings there (like 8') so it is good to go out on low tide and scout around and mark the large oyster bars to come back and fish during either side of the high tide.  Here are a few locations that are pretty obvious, with large oyster bars.  N31.20768 W81.34167 & N31.21031 & 81.34950

For fly fishing, the best advice I got was to use clousers around the oyster bars and let them sink to the bottom.  Slowly strip them and when they start to get hung on oysters, rip the shit out of it and that is when you get most of the strikes.  As for tailing reds in the mud, there is a fly pattern that they swear by down there that is a crab imitation.  I can't remember the exact name, but it was like toad fly or something like that.

Take it fwiw, we did not win any money in the tournament.  I wish I knew the place we went to pick up our live shrimp and crabs.  It was in the middle of nowhere down a dirt road and was open at like 5AM, but my mind has become mush over the years.


Cool.  That is what I was thinking.   Head out in the creeks and look for oyster beds.   Thanks
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on January 31, 2018, 10:18:26 AM
Lived there for a summer and never once caught a fish on a fly rod.  That speaks to my putrid ability to cast from a kayak but also to the fact that it's pretty difficult to catch a red on a fly rod there.  If you really want to catch something I would rec getting a guide.  I know a inshore type guide (wife family member) that is good with kids and what not but probably won't be able to accommodate a fly rod for various reasons. 

Can give all kinds of recs for other stuff.  Ford Fredrica is cool and has not been mentioned. 
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Pansyman on February 01, 2018, 19:54:29 PM
I have fished there a bunch as my MIL lived there for the last twenty years.  If you want to drown shrimp there are plenty of places to go hang out and do so by bridges and public park right by the causeway.
I very strongly recommend you contact David Edens at Fly Cast charters. He is an OLD PFF'r and knows that place very well.
Unless you're real familiar with the tide and the layout don't even think about trying a kayak. The tide swings are huge and you can find yourself in trouble in very short order.
Go to the villiage pier at night and watch the locals shark fishoff the pier. They catch huge like 8'-10' bull sharks tiger sharks right there and then drag them up on the beach where little chilrens be playing...... :banana026:
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Pansyman on February 01, 2018, 19:58:11 PM
The tour at Ft. Fredrica is very cool and I've bben there a few times. My college Archeology prof was the head archeaolgist there and is quoted throughout the place, but it wasn't until David took me up the river by boat that I realized the significance of the position where the fort was located between two hairpin turns in the river where any approaching ship couldn't bear their guns broadside as they negotiated the turn.
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Jfey on February 02, 2018, 08:56:49 AM
Thanks for the advice fellas.    Guess I'll need to check the swear jar and call Dave.   I thought he was connected to the PFF crew.   
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: sanjuanwormhatch on February 02, 2018, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: Jfey on February 02, 2018, 08:56:49 AM
Thanks for the advice fellas.    Guess I'll need to check the swear jar and call Dave.   I thought he was connected to the PFF crew.

I think that's wise.

Other randoms:

Bubba Garcias - decent food.  good spot to hang out.
Gnats - decent food.  good spot to hang out.
Southern Soul - already mentioned but worth a second, third and forth mention.
There's a growler shop in the same shopping center as Ace.
Bike paths galore on the island if your fam's into that kind of thing.
Willies weenie wagons - don't go out of your way to go there but if you're route takes you through brunswick it's an institution

As I'm typing this I realize that I pretty much just sit on my ass and do nothing when I'm there.  I encourage you to do the same.  There are also a ton of places down near the village I'm not super familiar with because I rarely go down there (can kind of be a little of a shit show).  Murphy's is a solid watering hole.
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Jfey on February 02, 2018, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: sanjuanwormhatch on February 02, 2018, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: Jfey on February 02, 2018, 08:56:49 AM
Thanks for the advice fellas.    Guess I'll need to check the swear jar and call Dave.   I thought he was connected to the PFF crew.

I think that's wise.

Other randoms:

Bubba Garcias - decent food.  good spot to hang out.
Gnats - decent food.  good spot to hang out.
Southern Soul - already mentioned but worth a second, third and forth mention.
There's a growler shop in the same shopping center as Ace.
Bike paths galore on the island if your fam's into that kind of thing.
Willies weenie wagons - don't go out of your way to go there but if you're route takes you through brunswick it's an institution

As I'm typing this I realize that I pretty much just sit on my ass and do nothing when I'm there.  I encourage you to do the same.  There are also a ton of places down near the village I'm not super familiar with because I rarely go down there (can kind of be a little of a shit show).  Murphy's is a solid watering hole.



Good call on the growler shop.  That will be important
Title: Saint Simons Island
Post by: The Dude on February 02, 2018, 13:17:19 PM
There is a guy who goes by "Too Cool Raul" that hangs out by on the boat slips near Coastal Kitchen. He can hook you up with anything you need. "Anything."   You dig?

Just look for the guy with the dull green hat and duster.
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: TooCoolRaul on February 02, 2018, 13:26:26 PM
Quote from: The Dude on February 02, 2018, 13:17:19 PM
There is a guy who goes by "Too Cool Raul" that hangs out by on the boat slips near Coastal Kitchen. He can hook you up with anything you need. "Anything."   You dig?

Just look for the guy with the dull green hat and duster.

Yeeee brah, thanks for the recommendation.  The Dude is a solid repeat customer.  Like he said, I can get you anything.  Hope you enjoyed the anal beads Dude from your last visit.  You requested some of the biggest, and I delivered did I not?
Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Jfey on February 02, 2018, 14:27:10 PM
Quote from: TooCoolRaul on February 02, 2018, 13:26:26 PM
Quote from: The Dude on February 02, 2018, 13:17:19 PM
There is a guy who goes by "Too Cool Raul" that hangs out by on the boat slips near Coastal Kitchen. He can hook you up with anything you need. "Anything."   You dig?

Just look for the guy with the dull green hat and duster.

Yeeee brah, thanks for the recommendation.  The Dude is a solid repeat customer.  Like he said, I can get you anything.  Hope you enjoyed the anal beads Dude from your last visit.  You requested some of the biggest, and I delivered did I not?


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Title: Saint Simons Island
Post by: The Dude on February 02, 2018, 15:40:31 PM
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Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: Michael Toris on February 02, 2018, 16:34:42 PM
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Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: TooCoolRaul on February 02, 2018, 16:54:11 PM
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Title: Re: Saint Simons Island
Post by: The Dude on February 02, 2018, 17:06:33 PM
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