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General: Fly Fishing BS => The bar is open.... => Topic started by: Woolly Bugger on February 02, 2020, 13:03:57 PM

Poll
Question: Are you worried, have you changed habits?
Option 1: I stopped drinking Corona Beer!
Option 2: I stopped eating Chinese Take Out
Option 3: What Corona Virus?
Option 4: One time at band camp I got a virus...
Title: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 02, 2020, 13:03:57 PM
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/index.html

QuoteWith a new coronavirus sickening thousands across China, researchers who specialize in tracking the spread of infectious disease are modeling its movements. They're asking just how widespread the illness could become, now that cases have been confirmed in 17 other countries.

"We've already lost control of it in China," says Michael Osterholm, PhD, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

He says the quarantines in major Chinese cities have probably had limited impact.

"The idea that we could create this seal around China is just totally unrealistic," he says. "I think at that point, you have to assume we're going to see widespread transmission around the world."

Likewise, Scott Gottlieb, MD, former commissioner of the FDA, said in an op-ed for CNBC that "global spread appears inevitable."

report (https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200124/coronavirus-2020-outbreak-latest-updates?ecd=soc_fb_200125_cons_news_coronavirusqa&linkId=100000010271197&fbclid=IwAR03FeAHn334MXwIuIt2eU0rIcfPv_TAjGN5kSLQx6kgUx3N9N-S-J8VKPA)
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on February 03, 2020, 09:14:22 AM
My brother who is in the medicine field says we should be more worried about this years influenza.  He said it has been more deadly than usual on people with weak immune systems.  However, the scary thing with me for the coronavirus is the 10 day incubation period for the virus.  If you are relatively healthy I wouldn't be too worried.  I'm expecting doctors to have a vaccine soon and this will be like the Ebola and bird flu scares.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 06, 2020, 20:04:48 PM
Thurs evening report;

The death toll in China rises to 563, with more than 28,000 cases countrywide
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 08, 2020, 11:07:28 AM
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Communist China is going to send workers back to factories on Monday!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dee-Vo on February 10, 2020, 09:14:16 AM
Sort of reminds me of "The Stand."
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 24, 2020, 14:50:08 PM
QuoteLipsitch predicts that, within the coming year, some 40 to 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. But, he clarifies emphatically, this does not mean that all will have severe illnesses. "It's likely that many will have mild disease, or may be asymptomatic," he said. As with influenza, which is often life-threatening to people with chronic health conditions and of older age, most cases pass without medical care. (Overall, around 14 percent of people with influenza have no symptoms.)

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on February 24, 2020, 20:32:36 PM
Read somewhere the thing that used to keep the worlds population in check was massive wars and uncontrollable diseases. We haven't had either in awhile. Maybe this is it  :o
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Silver Creek on February 25, 2020, 08:39:07 AM
Quote from: Al on February 24, 2020, 20:32:36 PMRead somewhere the thing that used to keep the worlds population in check was massive wars and uncontrollable diseases. We haven't had either in awhile. Maybe this is it  :o

I hate to mention it but you forgot famine.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on February 28, 2020, 18:18:21 PM
Iran's deputy health minister, Iraj Harirchi, was pale and drenched in sweat during a press conference on Monday as he told reporters that the Islamic Republic had "almost stabilized" the country's outbreak of coronavirus. He mopped his brow so often that an aide scurried to the lectern with a box of tissues. Harirchi dismissed as hype an Iranian lawmaker's claim that fifty people had already died from covid-19. "I will resign if the numbers are even half or a quarter of this," he said, adding that Iran had only sixty-one confirmed cases, with twelve deaths. Iran opposed quarantines, he said, because they belonged to an era before the First World War—"to the plague, cholera, stuff like that." The next day, Harirchi confirmed in a video—from quarantine—that he had contracted coronavirus.

Iran, a country of eighty-three million people, has now become one of the global epicenters of the coronavirus—with the highest mortality rate in the world. Based on official numbers, the mortality rate in Iran has fluctuated daily, between eight and eighteen per cent, compared to three per cent in China and less everywhere else. Iran is also unique, because a disproportionate number of confirmed cases are senior government officials. On Thursday, the Vice-President, Masoumeh Ebtekar—who gained fame in 1979 as Sister Mary, the spokeswoman for the students who seized the U.S. Embassy and took fifty-two Americans hostage—announced that she, too, had contracted the coronavirus. The day before, she had attended a meeting with President Hassan Rouhani and his cabinet. Two members of parliament, including the chairman of the Committee on National Security and Foreign Policy, have also been infected, as has the mayor of a district in Tehran and a senior cleric who had served as Iran's Ambassador to the Vatican. One of the lawmakers, Mahmoud Sadeghi, tweeted on Tuesday, "I send this message in a situation where I have little hope of surviving in this world." The former Vatican Ambassador, who was eighty-one, died on Thursday. So did Elham Sheikhi, a member of the women's national soccer team, who was twenty-two.

Iranian Deputy Health Minister Iraj Harirchi wipes the sweat off his face.
Iran's deputy health minister, Iraj Harirchi, wipes sweat from his brow during a press conference, on Monday. He later confirmed that he has contracted coronavirus.Photograph by Mehdi Bolourian / Fars News / AFP / Getty
Iran's official counts—three hundred and eighty-eight confirmed cases and thirty-four deaths, as of Friday—may be grossly underreported. In an early analysis published on Monday, six Canadian epidemiologists calculated that Iran probably had more than eighteen thousand cases of coronavirus. Their mathematical model was based on Iran's official death toll, the disease's infection and mortality rates worldwide, inflections in other countries traced to Iran, flight data, and travel patterns. "Given the low volumes of air travel to countries with identified cases of COVID-19 with origin in Iran (such as Canada), it is likely that Iran is currently experiencing a COVID-19 epidemic of significant size," they concluded. Because of the wide margin of error, the number of cases could range from as low as thirty-seven hundred to as high as fifty-three thousand. In the end, the Canadian epidemiologists settled on eighteen thousand three hundred, with a ninety-five-per-cent confidence rate. All of their estimates are many, many times higher than the figures that Iran has reported. Their model was published on medRxiv, which posts preliminary research that has not yet been peer-reviewed.


https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-iran-became-a-new-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 29, 2020, 10:06:37 AM
Iran, Italy, S. Korea, Spain, France, Germany  :wave
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 29, 2020, 19:14:37 PM
Shit is getting real  :o

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 01, 2020, 09:21:03 AM
I guess Jesus isn't going to save them !

QuoteThe leader of a religious sect in South Korea could face a homicide investigation over some of the country's coronavirus deaths.

The city government of the capital Seoul has asked prosecutors to charge Lee Man-hee, the founder of the Shincheonji Church, and 11 others.

They are accused of hiding the names of some members as officials tried to track patients before the virus spread.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51695649
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 01, 2020, 11:45:53 AM
The Louvre museum in Paris has remained shut amid concerns over France's coronavirus outbreak.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 01, 2020, 14:10:35 PM
USA live updates

https://corona.help/country/us  :o
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 01, 2020, 14:30:35 PM
I fear that Iran is underreporting and that S. Korea, Italy and the rest of Europe are still in epidemic

The new case charts, after beginning to flatten out, are now sloping upwards.

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 01, 2020, 16:35:14 PM
There are many different strains.  Claims have been made that certain strains can linger on hard surfaces for up to 9 days.  Seems to me shipped packages could be quite the vector.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 01, 2020, 18:22:40 PM
My wife (RN, MS, DNP educated) has studied pandemics, including the Spanish Flu about a hundred years ago. She predicts a slowing of infections in the next few months. Then a rapid growth in the fall/winter. Mutations will occur and control will be more difficult. Look at the difference in world wide travel in the last 100 years. Staggering growth and speed of travel. We'll need incredible international cooperation. Are you feeling good about our situation?
Whittling down the herd.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: streamereater_101691 on March 02, 2020, 07:52:16 AM
Active cases are going down as well as death rate. I agree we will see it disappear during spring and summer then make a major comeback in winter.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 02, 2020, 14:10:34 PM
335 new cases and 11 new deaths in Italy, for a total of 2,036 cases and 52 deaths to date. Among the 1,835 active cases, 908 (49%) are hospitalized, 166 of which (representing 9% of active cases) are in intensive care. Among the 201 closed cases, 149 (74%) have recovered, 52 (26%) have died. Lombardy region urges people over 65 years of age to stay home and not go out for 2-3 weeks.


Looks a lot worse that the regular flu!

China—>Iran—>Italy—>the rest of the world
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 02, 2020, 14:38:02 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on February 08, 2020, 11:07:28 AMhttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Communist China is going to send workers back to factories on Monday!

Your 411 is a wee bit dated
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 02, 2020, 23:11:46 PM
Spread of virus outside of China is troubling

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 03, 2020, 10:33:25 AM
What the hell?

Tens of thousands of prisoners in Iran have been released temporarily as the country tries to reduce coronavirus infections, officials say.

More than 54,000 inmates had been let out after testing negative for the virus, Iran's judiciary spokesman Gholamhossein Esmaili said.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 03, 2020, 16:02:26 PM
This is a handy tool
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR1QsHWV4PLRGeK7dwgYrgV_GQGnrCTjQjMjpOBvvzV13F8l2wEoUBWLv9c#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 03, 2020, 21:56:19 PM
Looks like northern Italy should have been locked down last week!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 04, 2020, 08:50:30 AM
Still overhyped.  If you believe the, imho, under reported case numbers in China, the death rate is around 3.4%.  Most of the deaths in Washington are from a nursing home ( think one of the caretakers who died was in their 40's though).  This is not the herd thinning plague.  Viruses like Ebola had a 50% death rate and SARS was around 10%.  Coronavirus has a much easier time infecting and spreading, but the fact is, if you are relatively healthy, you won't have to even go to the hospital. They are reporting that over 80% of the cases are mild and need no medical intervention.  Why isn't that number being reported?  I believe that everyone should be obviously be prepared for the worst case scenario, but we have to be grounded in some facts and the level of paranoia with the Coronavirus is not based in fact with the current numbers from this virus.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 04, 2020, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: Big J on March 04, 2020, 08:50:30 AMStill overhyped.  If you believe the, imho, under reported case numbers in China, the death rate is around 3.4%.  Most of the deaths in Washington are from a nursing home ( think one of the caretakers who died was in their 40's though).  This is not the herd thinning plague.  Viruses like Ebola had a 50% death rate and SARS was around 10%.  Coronavirus has a much easier time infecting and spreading, but the fact is, if you are relatively healthy, you won't have to even go to the hospital. They are reporting that over 80% of the cases are mild and need no medical intervention.  Why isn't that number being reported?  I believe that everyone should be obviously be prepared for the worst case scenario, but we have to be grounded in some facts and the level of paranoia with the Coronavirus is not based in fact with the current numbers from this virus.

Tell that to the dead in Washington!

And then you have stupid, like this idiot in NH

https://www.axios.com/new-hampshire-coronavirus-patient-isolation-break-3e72c1f2-65f3-484f-98ae-78ef66aff803.html
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: hcrum87hc on March 04, 2020, 13:24:07 PM
I think it's already more widespread than reported.  Think about how many people have minor symptoms and think it's just a cold or flu, as it is that time of the year.  They likely aren't being reported, and a large number of people with those symptoms don't even go to the doctor.

Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 04, 2020, 12:28:20 PMAnd then you have stupid, like this idiot in NH

https://www.axios.com/new-hampshire-coronavirus-patient-isolation-break-3e72c1f2-65f3-484f-98ae-78ef66aff803.html

That guy?  F that guy.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 04, 2020, 13:35:37 PM
New cases are on the rise: I fear that Iran and India may be underreporting by huge margins

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 04, 2020, 16:22:15 PM
Not sure how much the title had to do with the decision to delay the release of the new Bond film!
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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 04, 2020, 16:59:11 PM
Now you are getting into some things that the coronavirus will impact.  While I do not chalk up 10 people dying (Majority with compromised immune systems) as the herd thinning plague, I will say the economic impacts of the coronavirus will hurt a lot of industries.
Specifically the Tourism industry and entertainment industry.  Also the production issues in China due to plants shutting down will impact products in the US.   The majority of the Pharmaceutical products for example are produced in China.  Will we see shortages in medicine? 

Also, what is up with the web browser distortion with the text WB?  The text is extended way out of boxes.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 04, 2020, 20:08:06 PM
QuotePomeranian has low-level infection and experts unanimously conclude human-to-animal transmission

But experts also cite previous experience with Sars suggesting cats and dogs will not fall sick or transmit virus to people

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3065016/coronavirus-pet-dog-belonging-covid-19-patient
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 05, 2020, 07:16:10 AM
Quote from: Big J on March 04, 2020, 08:50:30 AMStill overhyped.

Overhyped?  Perhaps, but what will transpire if we do little or nothing to understand and contain this bug?  Think mutation!!!!!     Usually mutations are neutral or harmful, rarely beneficial.     


BUT, we are in good hands!

"I haven't touched my face in weeks!" Trump said to laughter. "I miss it."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/03/04/coronavirus-donald-trump-assures-public-its-safe-fly/4951826002/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 05, 2020, 08:39:11 AM
It's not an either or issue.  I'm only stating that people and the media are overhyping it. I also think Trump was downplaying it. My wife went to Sam's club to do her monthly trip and people have ransacked the waters, paper goods, and cleaning products. I'm building a hutch for our living room and my sawdust mask was pretty well worn so I went to Lowe's to pick up another pack of dusk masks and they were sold out.  Anyone check ebay to see what Lysol and N95 masks are going for?  It's insane.  I think the medical community has jumped on this properly and are making gains on a vaccine.  Read that Israeli scientist claim to be weeks out to having a vaccine to start trials and testing.  I'm not advocating we do nothing, not advocating I'm an expert, just saying imho, this is not the herd thinning plague everyone is making it out to be. 

I'm wired to being a little more cautious in these situations and in life in general.  I have a daughter with an auto immune disease and on methotrexate on a weekly basis which also compromises her immune system.  If anyone was to be paranoid I would think it would be me, the guy that carries a gun around on his hip on a daily basis and with this daughter.  Looking at the facts with this, I'm really not concerned and have faith in the medical field and mother nature's season changing that this will work itself out.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 05, 2020, 09:03:01 AM
Quote from: Big J on March 05, 2020, 08:39:11 AMIt's insane. 


Yes, the quintessential human angst, the fear of death.  Word of the day = thanatophobia.

Immediate threats, real or not, seem to rock our world, while future perils to our existence seem to elude us (i.e. climate change).  Our lofty position as the idyllic, dominant species needs some work.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 05, 2020, 12:56:47 PM
My wife, with her national nursing network, tells me that people are stealing masks, gloves, hand cleaner and other supplies from doctor's offices and hospitals in areas with positive testing.
Seattle area is in near meltdown.
But I'm sure Pence, Mr. Science denier, visiting will calm everyone.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2020, 13:23:59 PM
Quote from: Big J on March 04, 2020, 16:59:11 PMAlso, what is up with the web browser distortion with the text WB?  The text is extended way out of boxes.

What browser on what platform?

Screenshot please
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: hcrum87hc on March 05, 2020, 13:59:13 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2020, 13:23:59 PM
Quote from: Big J on March 04, 2020, 16:59:11 PMAlso, what is up with the web browser distortion with the text WB?  The text is extended way out of boxes.

What browser on what platform?

Screenshot please

I'm seeing it on page 2 of this thread using Chrome on Windows 10.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 05, 2020, 14:58:32 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2020, 13:23:59 PM
Quote from: Big J on March 04, 2020, 16:59:11 PMAlso, what is up with the web browser distortion with the text WB?  The text is extended way out of boxes.

What browser on what platform?

Screenshot please

Yup, earlier I was forced to scroll right, way right, all the way to WV, to read the entire message.  I hate going right!  Like Leonard on the Big Bang, I always go left!  Now it is doing the same damned thing when I preview this message.

Have no idea of browser I am using.  I just turn the sons-a-bitch on and start hitting keys.  If there's a problem, it must be that damned corona.

http://youtu.be/kMgmBuC85sw
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2020, 15:57:35 PM
Try it now! It may have been the long ass url that mudflap posted
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on March 05, 2020, 17:16:20 PM
Page 2 of this thread I see examples where posts extend beyond the outer limits. Using Ipad with Safari.
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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: hcrum87hc on March 06, 2020, 08:22:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2020, 15:57:35 PMTry it now! It may have been the long ass url that mudflap posted

Still doing it for me.  Looks like troutrus posted a long URL.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 06, 2020, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: hcrum87hc on March 06, 2020, 08:22:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2020, 15:57:35 PMTry it now! It may have been the long ass url that mudflap posted

Still doing it for me.  Looks like troutrus posted a long URL.

So, it wasn't me!  Seems Bossman went to the same culpability class as my wife.  Just celebrated our 35th wedding anniversary, and the one constant over those 35 blissful years is, she still blames me for shit that I did not do.   
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 06, 2020, 14:38:12 PM
John Hopkins site is back up and running

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 07, 2020, 11:03:06 AM
"The tests are beautiful."  What the freak is a "beautiful" test?  How the heck did we regress where our boss uses such adolescent oration?  Often, I use juvenile language, but I ain't a leader of anyone.  I expect more from our chiefs!

Obliging fish story for itieuglyflies (well, sort of a fishing story):  Wonderful angling dream last night.  I was fishing the Smith during the heat of an August day, during the terrestrial season.  Heading upstream, I was soon at the tail end of my favorite reach, The Trestle Pool.  As I studied the lower flat, I knew the left bank always provided a fish or two.  Perfect angle for a right hander, I started popping a beetle, tight along the edge, as I waded upstream in the knee-deep water.  Soon I was hooked up.  First a spunky 8 incher, then another clone, and then another about an inch longer.  It was then an upstream horizonal fleshy figure caught my eye.  It was Jennifer Connelly sprawled out on an army surplus sleeping mat.  It was the first time I had seen this particular Jennifer without her wraps, even in a dream.  (I watched 'Only the Brave' last week, so that may explain.)  Ms. Connelly was restfully situated on that spit of river depositional material that sprouts downstream from the rock garden at the head of the pool/flat.  I assume that little river peninsula remains.  She slowly raised her fully exposed torso, with an inviting "Hello".  I responded with an Appalachian "howdy miss".  She invited me over, returning to her original horizonal posture, shading her eyes with her left hand from the midday Henry County sun.  I could not help admiring her slender, athletic, naked flesh, and was oddly attracted to her nether region and the lack of foliage, except for the hirsute fish-shaped "mons pubis".  She caught my glance, so I was forced to break the quiet.  "You must like fish", I stammered.  Ms. Connelly stirringly responded, "Yes, I do, but what I could use is a beer.  There were two anglers by earlier, but all they had was pretentious beer.  I didn't see them catch a thing.  I believe their names were Doug and Keith."  "How's an Old Milwaukee sound?" I blurted, ejaculating spittle in excitement.  Then I woke to the downstairs coffee pot doing its thing.   

http://youtu.be/1_XwC9IQKBc
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 07, 2020, 13:00:30 PM
I've had my fill of Old Milwaukee  d:b  p;-


Oh my god! "...like the big monster ship...."
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 07, 2020, 13:37:14 PM

South by Southwest festival cancelled over coronavirus https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51778423

Does anybody remember events being canceled during the H1N1 flu pandemic?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 08, 2020, 11:27:35 AM
No worse than the flu?

16 million quarantined in Italy  :o You cannot see attachments on this board.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 10, 2020, 16:23:43 PM
As they just "locked down"  New Rochelle one mile radius from the epicenter of the largest outbreak in the USA, question is who will be next and how far will it go?

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Harvard tells students not to return after spring break, classes go online (https://www.universalhub.com/2020/harvard-tells-students-not-come-back-after-spring)



Marshall islands suspends all foreign air traffic to stop spread of virus (https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://news.yahoo.com/marshall-islands-bars-air-travellers-stop-virus-060922611.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTMxMzA1OTQzNjE4NjU0NDQ2MzcyGmJhNTM3MDU2OTQ2YzVmNDM6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNHWC4soqRmaOue0CPSBSpCvef7www)

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: ARontheFly on March 11, 2020, 10:43:12 AM
Google search Michael Osterholm - good 15 minute clip of a joe rogan podcast with him and also a CNN interview.
Good straight talk on the issue. I've been drinking more Corona's and craving Chinese takeout, my weak
brain is a sucker for subliminal marketing I suppose.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on March 15, 2020, 17:21:45 PM
This link just posted by our old buddy Trout Fantastic on his FB page who says we should take this stuff seriously . BTW for some of you who may not know TF is in the final stages of PA school.

https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2020/03/a-covid-19-coronavirus-update-from-concerned-physicians.html?fbclid=IwAR2WU2NKaQlWu96KjnzJfCxLIfoEpTsG1R5Yxkh9JnBR7be0o_OKZWwVsHw
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 16, 2020, 18:05:07 PM
This just in!

A couple in Burlington NC just purchased over $2,500 worth of ammo!

 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 16, 2020, 22:24:26 PM
https://twitter.com/maxbrooksauthor/status/1239624352305303552?s=21
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: rbphoto on March 17, 2020, 06:55:46 AM
I have seen too many articles and posts downplaying this and comparing it to flu or H1N1.

Being related to a few healthcare workers, and friends with dozens more (ER, ICU, RNs, MDs, Paramedics, etc) I believe this is not like H1N1. 

Is it overblown by the media?

Yes.

Is the potential for a large part of the population to be severely infected?

Yes.

Are healthcare workers and systems doing everything they can do prepare for the worst?

Yes.

One of our local systems just closed their smallest facility (less than 100 beds) to sanitize it and convert the rooms into makeshift isolation facilities for critically infected patients, if the need materializes. 

Good prep on the part of our community.

ER & Critical care MDs & RNs and Respiratory Therapists are all being taught proper PPE and procedural "donning & doffing" of said PPE to limit exposure to themselves and their colleagues.  They are discussing innovative ways to provide supportive care and limit aerosolization from respiratory distressed patients.

They are working through how to best reduce fomite transmission ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomite) ) because that is a major unknown. 

Critically ill patients will be staffed at 2:1 nurse to patient ratios.  One nurse to care for the patient.  One nurse to act as the spotter for potential issues related to isolation protocol and to limit exposure to caregivers.

Most ER personnel, first responders, and community health workers believe they either already have been or will be exposed to the virus.  We simply did not get out in front of this soon enough.

My brother is an ER nurse and expects to catch hell when he returns to his next shift.

My son is quarantined pending test results from one of his healthcare worker friends.  The soonest he may be able to return to work is Thursday.  Test results are not always quick . . .

Numerous industries have already been affected and the reach is greater than many people realize.

My company has already seen "Stop Work" orders on a couple of large projects and multiple delays on others.  We build durable goods used in manufacturing and maintenance of large industries that support the infrastructure of our country. 

Schools are closed and many of the people with whom I work, worship and fellowship will be forced to stay home with their children, reducing the resources available to an enormous amount of businesses which will have significant impact over the next couple of weeks.

We will see innovative business opportunities created from this crisis.  The American people always respond to business opportunities with creativity to meet needs and put food on the table.

All of that to say that this is unprecedented in our country and we have a responsibility to care for those around us in ways we have probably never considered.  This has the potential to recreate community in ways that our culture has forgotten or abandoned.

Buy LOCAL!!!  Local, especially small businesses will suffer the most.

Check on the elderly and infirm and those without dependable transportation.  Go shopping for them or bring them something home cooked.

Be merciful to those who have fewer resources than you.  The poor are going to be harder hit than most of us realize. 

Many more people will end up poor as a result of this. 

I am a firm believer than people will rise to the level we expect them to.  Our culture has very low expectations and we call all fix that with some deliberate changes.

Do good for others. Speak to people with hopefulness and in such a way that you raise the expectation of them to be kind.

Work.  If your company allows, go to work.  If they don't, be productive.  Maybe on your home, vehicle, neighbor's home or vehicle, or any number of other creative ways.

Take a kid fishing.

Take an older person fishing.

Do justice, love mercy, walk humbly.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 17, 2020, 07:27:17 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 16, 2020, 18:05:07 PMThis just in!

A couple in Burlington NC just purchased over $2,500 worth of ammo!

 

They should have purchased strawberry plants.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 18, 2020, 07:28:06 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 16, 2020, 18:05:07 PMThis just in!

A couple in Burlington NC just purchased over $2,500 worth of ammo!

 

I hear gun and ammo sales are up across the globe.  This seems rational to me.  I firmly recall that freshman biology class and the revelation that bullets were most effective against most all viruses.  Some loads and projectiles, particularly the silver ones, the same used to halt werewolves, are very competent at bringing down all types of microscopic, unseen bugs.     
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 18, 2020, 19:34:35 PM
My shopping for surviving Covid 19

- 0 degree sleeping bags for surviving with no heat
- 50 pound sack of corn flower > don't have
- 50 pound sack of steel cut oat groats > don't have
- Wood fuel camp stove
- Dutch Oven
- hand powered grinding mill > don't have
- More beehive woodware and wax foundation
- Up to date will
- Buckwheat seed enough .25 acre....enough roundup to kill front lawn to replace with buckwheat.
- Seeds of all kind.  Beets, mustard, Alaskan blue cabbage,everything!
- Screens and plywood for drying fruit
- Gravity water filtration system > don't have
- Gutter cistern for watering garden > don't have
- 10 year supply of captan
- 3 year supply of herbicide
- Lye > don't have
- Couple new bow saws
- 50 pounds of coffee beans > don't have
- 50 pounds of carnation dried milk. > don't have
- Couple Black Twig apple trees on Bud9 rootstock.
- Large fish trap to catch catfish > don't have

$2500 for ammo is a waste. A Troy Bilt horse tiller is worth much more.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 19, 2020, 02:16:44 AM
This just in:

Wife sent husband out to buy eggs, all stores sold out, so he goes and buys a gun instead.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 19, 2020, 04:27:02 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 19, 2020, 02:16:44 AMThis just in:

Wife sent husband out to buy eggs, all stores sold out, so he goes and buys a gun instead.

Buy a god damned chick at Tractor supply.  Dumbass.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 19, 2020, 06:49:06 AM
I tried "going back to the land" in the mid 1970's to the mid 80's. Had 10 acres, chickens, goats, big garden, etc. It didn't work. I worked my ass off in the garden, feeding animals, milking, making cheese, getting eggs, tilling, building barns, etc. Didn't raise enough food to feed squat. Would plant 100 pounds of seed potatoes (that I had to buy), then would get the blight and only end up with 75 pounds of potatoes at the end of the season, for example. Had to work two lousy jobs in addition to the "farm" in order to make enough money to go buy food, gas, pay bills, etc. Got tired of goat milk and eggs.
I'm under no illusions about "living off the land" anymore. Just me -- YMMV.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 19, 2020, 08:17:35 AM
I think most of the gun sales are first time gun buyers according to most of the stuff I'm reading. Nobody I know that is into guns has gone out and bought another gun during this coronavirus scare.  Granted most of the people I know are in VA and they made their needed purchases during the AWB Bill hearings between Nov. and Feb.  Think the first time buyers are seeing how quickly things got out of control and came to the realization that the government doesn't have the ability to protect you during a crisis and a crisis tends to bring out the worst in people. 

I do think everyone across the board are stocking up on ammo which I think is dumb.  Prices are thru the roof right now.  It is not necessary to buy a crate of ammo right now. You are not going to need it, and you are going to take it up the rear on pricing.  My mags are full in my guns and if I were to need more than that, I have been in a really really bad situation for way too long and it is a miracle I made it that far.  People do not need to let paranoia get the best of them.  Invest that money in some stock in a month or two.

On the run on food, it is scary how quick and fragile the food supply chain is when people panic.  And this was not even a "end of the world we need food" situation.  And the stupidity in some of the bulk purchases amazes me.  I can't tell you how many pictures I saw with shopping carts with 20 gallons of milk and 30 loaves of bread. 

I went to the grocery store, bought a pack of eggs, 3lbs of ground beef, a little coffee, and some olive oil. Just what I was running low on and needed for the week.  Shelves are already restocked at all our locations.  All is well.  Practice social distancing, get out into the woods with family members, go to the grocery stores bright and early to avoid crowds of virus carrying morons, and try to see the good in people and society the best you can.  We are currently living thru history right now.  This is an unprecedented event we are seeing in our life time.  Not in history, but in our life time.  See you all out on the trout stream.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 19, 2020, 08:26:34 AM
I might "see" ya on the trout stream, but at a distance.  :o  I'm fishing by myself presently. No panic here, just being careful. My wife has a severely weakened immune system due to a neurological disease, and I'm an old fart. Trying to keep that shit out of my house if possible.
As far as guns and ammo goes, I have enough of both. I ain't expecting a Zombie Apocalypse.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 19, 2020, 08:55:31 AM
I am guilty of "stocking up", "hoarding" – whatever you call it.  Chew and pipe tobacco are my items of stockpiling.   It would be nice if I had access to some weed.  Perfect time for indulging.  I've been eating ramps daily; combine the odorous me with the social distance/virus protocol and you would have the perfect storm for safely remaining baked.  No authority in their correct mind would approach you.  They would likely not arrest you --- don't want anymore jailbirds.  And if they did write you up, your case would not come before the judge for months, maybe years, and hell, we might not be around then anyway.   
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 19, 2020, 09:12:36 AM
I bought a modest amount of ammo for the .308. between the shotguns and the .22, I'm good.I've got enough deer in the 'hood and fish in the streams to keep us in protein if need be. We planted a mess of lettuce and spinach on Sunday. The trick will be trying to keep a paycheck showing up as things grind to a halt.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 19, 2020, 09:50:46 AM
Strategic preparation should not be mistaken for dumb hoarding.  Hoarding milk and bread is beyond dumb.

Phil, I never left the land.  I took subsistance gardening inside the city limits. I suspect scarcity will show itself soon, then will come inflation.

I have no faith the US will emerge from this episode with any grace unless a vaccine becomes available within a month.  The nation is flush with hubris and oblivion, and will not learn from the Koreans. Our lack of focus has already doomed us.  This could get worse than WWII. The last war fought on our soil was the Civil War. There has never been a time where people simmply could not be productive due to an internal existential threat in the last !00 years.

The US does not behave like a first world country, or the leader of the free world.

People are still putting chew in their mouth while filling up with gas along the interstate.   People are still coughing on each other.  Some still think this is a political conspiracy. We're doomed.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 19, 2020, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Onslow on March 19, 2020, 09:50:46 AMSome still think this is a political conspiracy. We're doomed.

I have had people close to me say they believe this virus was China's way of making Trump lose the election because this virus will kill a lot of the old people that vote for Trump. It was one of those moments where you laugh at the statement and then slowly stop laughing when you notice they are being serious. . . . .
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 19, 2020, 10:42:21 AM
This just in; Burlington "Gun Store" best sales of all 240 stores in chain!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 19, 2020, 13:43:33 PM
Just saw that the Frogs may have made a treatment breakthrough with an existing malaria drug.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 19, 2020, 13:47:10 PM
Quote from: Onslow on March 19, 2020, 09:50:46 AMStrategic preparation should not be mistaken for dumb hoarding.  Hoarding milk and bread is beyond dumb.

Phil, I never left the land.  I took subsistance gardening inside the city limits. I suspect scarcity will show itself soon, then will come inflation.

I have no faith the US will emerge from this episode with any grace unless a vaccine becomes available within a month.  The nation is flush with hubris and oblivion, and will not learn from the Koreans. Our lack of focus has already doomed us.  This could get worse than WWII. The last war fought on our soil was the Civil War. There has never been a time where people simmply could not be productive due to an internal existential threat in the last !00 years.

The US does not behave like a first world country, or the leader of the free world.

People are still putting chew in their mouth while filling up with gas along the interstate.   People are still coughing on each other.  Some still think this is a political conspiracy. We're doomed.

I wear a glove while I'm pumping gas beside the interstate, then take it off and put the chew in my mouth. :)
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 19, 2020, 15:03:58 PM
"Some still think this is a political conspiracy. We're doomed."

 We've been "doomed" since I remember. Cuba Russia Atom Bomb Vietnam Middle East Aids Flu Ebola Muslim Terrorists Nixon Reagan Carter Clinton Bushes Trump Bernie Socialists Commies Mass Shooters Right-Wing Racists Corona Virus... want me to go on? Take yer pick.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 19, 2020, 15:16:17 PM
Quote from: Phil on March 19, 2020, 15:03:58 PM"Some still think this is a political conspiracy. We're doomed."

 We've been "doomed" since I remember. Cuba Russia Atom Bomb Vietnam Middle East Aids Flu Ebola Muslim Terrorists Nixon Reagan Carter Clinton Bushes Trump Bernie Socialists Commies Mass Shooters Right-Wing Racists Corona Virus... want me to go on? Take yer pick.
Yep. And life still has a 100% mortality rate. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 19, 2020, 16:14:57 PM
Now this moron!
maybe he'll get a vacation in Jail (https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/florida-governor-says-partys-over-for-spring-breakers-amid-coronavirus-crisis/? umm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=pasteboard_app)

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 19, 2020, 19:20:58 PM
Math is a bitch.

.06 % of the general population in Italy are infected with covid 19.

8.9 % of the docs in Italy are infected

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 22, 2020, 08:51:34 AM
Just heard of a possible silver lining from our global virus conundrum.  Decreased human daily activity = positive influence on climate change.           
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 22, 2020, 12:48:59 PM
Great Smoky Mountains National Park closes campgrounds, restrooms due to coronavirus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/great-smoky-mountains-national-park-closes-campgrounds-restrooms-due-to-coronavirus/ar-BB11xMkZ

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: driver on March 22, 2020, 19:55:54 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 22, 2020, 08:51:34 AMJust heard of a possible silver lining from our global virus conundrum.  Decreased human daily activity = positive influence on climate change.           

This is mind blowing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/asia/china-pollution-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/asia/china-pollution-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html)
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 22, 2020, 20:30:47 PM
Quote from: driver on March 22, 2020, 19:55:54 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 22, 2020, 08:51:34 AMJust heard of a possible silver lining from our global virus conundrum.  Decreased human daily activity = positive influence on climate change.           

This is mind blowing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/asia/china-pollution-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/asia/china-pollution-coronavirus-hnk-intl/index.html)

I saw this earlier and the same reaction.
If you want to debate this shit, you are a special kind of stupid.
Stop polluting, nature starts to cure itself. If, if, we have not gone to far.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Sedition and Pockets on March 22, 2020, 23:43:53 PM
The local propertied classes are scrambling to make a few bucks off this.  All capitalism is disaster capitalism.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 23, 2020, 08:29:29 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 22, 2020, 12:48:59 PMGreat Smoky Mountains National Park closes campgrounds, restrooms due to coronavirus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/great-smoky-mountains-national-park-closes-campgrounds-restrooms-due-to-coronavirus/ar-BB11xMkZ



I pee in fruit juice bottle.  Stopping at a public restroom is about a sensible as licking an airplane toilet seat.  Snowbirds from Canada are keeping things hot on the freeway.  All of the Florida goodness is being sowed along our interstate highway facilities.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 23, 2020, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: Sedition and Pockets on March 22, 2020, 23:43:53 PMThe local propertied classes are scrambling to make a few bucks off this.  All capitalism is disaster capitalism.



"The mountain air is crisp and virus free..."

Except for those COVID cases starting to stack up in Buncombe County...
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Sedition and Pockets on March 23, 2020, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 23, 2020, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: Sedition and Pockets on March 22, 2020, 23:43:53 PMThe local propertied classes are scrambling to make a few bucks off this.  All capitalism is disaster capitalism.



"The mountain air is crisp and virus free..."

Except for those COVID cases starting to stack up in Buncombe County...

One of the owners of this company literally works for Mission.  It's completely incomprehensible outside of the framework of self-absorbed greed.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 23, 2020, 22:06:05 PM
A half-dozen state parks are now completely closed, including Hanging Rock in Stokes County and Crowders Mountain west of Charlotte. Campgrounds in all North Carolina national forests closed on Monday though at least mid-May.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 24, 2020, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 23, 2020, 22:06:05 PMA half-dozen state parks are now completely closed, including Hanging Rock in Stokes County and Crowders Mountain west of Charlotte. Campgrounds in all North Carolina national forests closed on Monday though at least mid-May.

Come April I may be camping in my front yard like a little kid.  b';   -p-
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 24, 2020, 12:52:53 PM
Hopefully Big J can explain this logic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/liberty-welcomes-students-back-from-break-despite-coronavirus/ar-BB11E5F4?ocid=primedhp
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 24, 2020, 13:30:14 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 24, 2020, 12:52:53 PMHopefully Big J can explain this logic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/liberty-welcomes-students-back-from-break-despite-coronavirus/ar-BB11E5F4?ocid=primedhp

Don't look at me to try and explain this.  He was really being bullheaded about moving classes online when the school already has the online infrastructure in place considering it has the 2nd largest online program in the world.  My understanding is it is just degrees that require in-person hands on teaching.  Med school, nursing program, etc. But then again everything he says isn't aligned with what actually happens.  I really try not to read too much Falwell Jr. stuff because it is a little depressing. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 24, 2020, 16:20:52 PM
Meanwhile, the entire GSMNP has closed. This is overblown, ridiculous ignorance. I can go to Walmart, but I can't go somewhere back in the woods three miles from another human? This is absurd stupidity, and somebody needs to pay for hyping this panic.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 24, 2020, 18:58:40 PM
SNP has shut the AT and the shelters. All facilities are closed. Fishing is open. Most trails are open. (They have closed high volume, stupid human trails.)
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 24, 2020, 20:44:15 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 24, 2020, 16:20:52 PMMeanwhile, the entire GSMNP has closed. This is overblown, ridiculous ignorance. I can go to Walmart, but I can't go somewhere back in the woods three miles from another human? This is absurd stupidity, and somebody needs to pay for hyping this panic.

I would think they are concerned about bathrooms and the like .. doesn't make sense for a lot of people but you have to take care of the lowest common denominator
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 24, 2020, 21:53:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 24, 2020, 20:44:15 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 24, 2020, 16:20:52 PMMeanwhile, the entire GSMNP has closed. This is overblown, ridiculous ignorance. I can go to Walmart, but I can't go somewhere back in the woods three miles from another human? This is absurd stupidity, and somebody needs to pay for hyping this panic.

I would think they are concerned about bathrooms and the like .. doesn't make sense for a lot of people but you have to take care of the lowest common denominator

People will just steal the toilet paper and hand sanitizer
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 25, 2020, 09:33:13 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 24, 2020, 20:44:15 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 24, 2020, 16:20:52 PMMeanwhile, the entire GSMNP has closed. This is overblown, ridiculous ignorance. I can go to Walmart, but I can't go somewhere back in the woods three miles from another human? This is absurd stupidity, and somebody needs to pay for hyping this panic.

I would think they are concerned about bathrooms and the like .. doesn't make sense for a lot of people but you have to take care of the lowest common denominator

They already had campgrounds, picnic areas, and bathrooms closed. Closing the backcountry is stupid.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 25, 2020, 09:56:22 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 25, 2020, 09:33:13 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 24, 2020, 20:44:15 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 24, 2020, 16:20:52 PMMeanwhile, the entire GSMNP has closed. This is overblown, ridiculous ignorance. I can go to Walmart, but I can't go somewhere back in the woods three miles from another human? This is absurd stupidity, and somebody needs to pay for hyping this panic.

I would think they are concerned about bathrooms and the like .. doesn't make sense for a lot of people but you have to take care of the lowest common denominator

They already had campgrounds, picnic areas, and bathrooms closed. Closing the backcountry is stupid.

Agreed for sure.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 25, 2020, 16:13:03 PM
https://nbc25news.com/news/state/thieves-steal-toilet-paper-at-sleeping-bear-dunes-restrooms
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 25, 2020, 16:37:18 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 25, 2020, 16:13:03 PMhttps://nbc25news.com/news/state/thieves-steal-toilet-paper-at-sleeping-bear-dunes-restrooms

Assholes abound.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 25, 2020, 16:40:16 PM
I witnessed a poor old feller steal about 6 rolls of toilet paper from the Yadkin River park facility at Yadkinville Rd.  I thought he may had been a city employee until I noticed him depositing the tissue in his car.  This was last Thursday.  I went to the river to piss.  No way in hell I'm entering a public restroom with doors.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 26, 2020, 14:11:57 PM
https://keprtv.com/news/local/recreational-fishing-banned-statewide-fish-and-wildlife-says (https://keprtv.com/news/local/recreational-fishing-banned-statewide-fish-and-wildlife-says)

 :o
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: ARontheFly on March 26, 2020, 14:28:22 PM
Quote from: Big J on March 26, 2020, 14:11:57 PMhttps://keprtv.com/news/local/recreational-fishing-banned-statewide-fish-and-wildlife-says (https://keprtv.com/news/local/recreational-fishing-banned-statewide-fish-and-wildlife-says)

 :o

Shit just got real.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 26, 2020, 15:37:21 PM
Frack !  They gonna turn me into a criminal.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 26, 2020, 17:40:36 PM
Quote from: ARontheFly on March 26, 2020, 14:28:22 PM
Quote from: Big J on March 26, 2020, 14:11:57 PMhttps://keprtv.com/news/local/recreational-fishing-banned-statewide-fish-and-wildlife-says (https://keprtv.com/news/local/recreational-fishing-banned-statewide-fish-and-wildlife-says)

 :o

Shit just got real.

damn bait casters...

should be exceptions for the long rodders   d:b
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: hcrum87hc on March 27, 2020, 08:02:50 AM
Quote from: Big J on March 26, 2020, 14:11:57 PMhttps://keprtv.com/news/local/recreational-fishing-banned-statewide-fish-and-wildlife-says (https://keprtv.com/news/local/recreational-fishing-banned-statewide-fish-and-wildlife-says)

 :o

Thankfully, hiking a couple miles into a stream tends to weed out most other fishermen.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 27, 2020, 08:23:13 AM
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Umstead State Park Raleigh with 20 miles of trails


Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 27, 2020, 08:53:55 AM


now they won't let the kids fish for the ditch bass...
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: hcrum87hc on March 27, 2020, 12:44:51 PM
All state parks just closed in SC through the end of April.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 27, 2020, 13:43:25 PM
Quote from: hcrum87hc on March 27, 2020, 12:44:51 PMAll state parks just closed in SC through the end of April.

fuckers....

my carp pond is posted as being closed, but that's not stopping me so far....
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 27, 2020, 13:48:02 PM
LEXINGTON, N.C. -- The City of Lexington will soon be under a curfew, according to a notice from city officials.

Mayor Newell Clark has enacted a public safety curfew beginning Saturday. Under this curfew, people may not travel on any public streets, alleys or roadways or visit public property between the hours of 9 p.m. and 5 a.m.

The curfew is set to remain in place until midnight of April 18.

People in search of medical help, food or other necessary commodities or services are exempt.

https://myfox8.com/news/coronavirus/lexington-enacts-curfew-to-prevent-spread-of-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR0Hlt9LqhD6vYMS3p_5av9gkYpL1gXo_4KQQ_Rwb6onRsWnXFzAnvS8SnI
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 27, 2020, 13:54:21 PM
it is, for me, insanely difficult to understand how fast and far this virus is spreading...

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 27, 2020, 14:32:50 PM
Park closures
Due to declared state of emergency in various counties, beach closures and continued crowding that does not adhere to social distancing guidelines, the following parks are closed (underlined parks are newly closed as of Friday, March 27):
Chimney Rock at Chimney Rock State Park (Eagle Rock and Rumbling Bald accesses are open)
Crowders Mountain State Park
Elk Knob State Park
Fort Fisher State Recreation Area
Fort Macon State Park
Gorges State Park
Grandfather Mountain State Park
Hanging Rock State Park
Jockey's Ridge State Park (open to residents of Dare County only)
Lake James State Park
Lake Waccamaw State Park
Morrow Mountain State Park
Mount Jefferson State Natural Area
Mount Mitchell State Park
New River State Park
Pilot Mountain State Park
Raven Rock State Park
South Mountains State Park
Stone Mountain State Park
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on March 28, 2020, 20:31:42 PM
I just read where graham county NC is closed to all non residents.


https://www.wbir.com/article/news/graham-county-shuts-down-closing-off-access-to-cherohala-skyway/51-8a66e0e4-59a6-4c51-81fc-904f49f973fa
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 28, 2020, 21:19:29 PM
https://youtu.be/e0-2XxgHIXk
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 29, 2020, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: greg on March 28, 2020, 20:31:42 PMI just read where graham county NC is closed to all non residents.


https://www.wbir.com/article/news/graham-county-shuts-down-closing-off-access-to-cherohala-skyway/51-8a66e0e4-59a6-4c51-81fc-904f49f973fa


Yep. My son and his wife live in Robbinsville where she is the head doctor at the only clinic. The county is completely closed off to non-essential/non-resident entry.  Concrete barriers with law enforcement checkpoints.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 29, 2020, 08:46:38 AM
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 29, 2020, 18:03:42 PM
Quote from: Phil on March 29, 2020, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: greg on March 28, 2020, 20:31:42 PMI just read where graham county NC is closed to all non residents.


https://www.wbir.com/article/news/graham-county-shuts-down-closing-off-access-to-cherohala-skyway/51-8a66e0e4-59a6-4c51-81fc-904f49f973fa


Yep. My son and his wife live in Robbinsville where she is the head doctor at the only clinic. The county is completely closed off to non-essential/non-resident entry.  Concrete barriers with law enforcement checkpoints.

Heard rumors Friday Avery was working similar regs.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 29, 2020, 18:40:06 PM
Quote from: Onslow on March 29, 2020, 18:03:42 PM
Quote from: Phil on March 29, 2020, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: greg on March 28, 2020, 20:31:42 PMI just read where graham county NC is closed to all non residents.


https://www.wbir.com/article/news/graham-county-shuts-down-closing-off-access-to-cherohala-skyway/51-8a66e0e4-59a6-4c51-81fc-904f49f973fa


Yep. My son and his wife live in Robbinsville where she is the head doctor at the only clinic. The county is completely closed off to non-essential/non-resident entry.  Concrete barriers with law enforcement checkpoints.

Heard rumors Friday Avery was working similar regs.

Avery? Damn. Gettin' close to home.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on March 29, 2020, 20:02:59 PM
In case you didn't see it - We are in this thing for at least another month. President is following CDC recommendations and declared end of April now.

Be safe and stay healthy folks.
 
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Post by: Onslow on March 29, 2020, 20:04:34 PM
Don't think this will be over in a month.  Maybe 18 months.
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Post by: Dougfish on March 29, 2020, 20:09:51 PM
Quote from: Onslow on March 29, 2020, 20:04:34 PMDon't think this will be over in a month.  Maybe 18 months.

Yep. The science says so. Trump is whitewashing it.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 29, 2020, 20:19:37 PM
Shit is going to hit the fan when supply lines are disrupted to the point to where people are without food for 48 hours.

The fact PPE is not generally available to the public is an epic disaster, and shameful.  NO ONE should be out and about in public without it. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 30, 2020, 07:04:32 AM
 As of Monday morning, the following North Carolina parks were closed:

   
• Carvers Creek State Park   
• Chimney Rock at Chimney Rock State Park (Eagle Rock and Rumbling Bald accesses are open)   
• Cliffs of the Neuse State Park   
• Crowders Mountain State Park   
• Elk Knob State Park   
• Eno River State Park   
• Falls Lake State Recreation Area   
• Fort Fisher State Recreation Area   
• Fort Macon State Park   
• Gorges State Park   
• Grandfather Mountain State Park   
• Hanging Rock State Park   
• Lake James State Park   
• Lake Waccamaw State Park   
• Lumber River State Park   
• Morrow Mountain State Park   
• Mount Jefferson State Natural Area   
• Mount Mitchell State Park   
• New River State Park   
• Occoneechee Mountain State Natural Area   
• Pilot Mountain State Park   
• Raven Rock State Park   
• South Mountains State Park   
• Stone Mountain State Park   
• William B. Umstead State Park
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 30, 2020, 07:34:20 AM
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/04/06/how-does-the-coronavirus-behave-inside-a-patient

A very very interesting read.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on March 31, 2020, 06:23:49 AM
Well, another unkept promise from Trumpsky. 🙁 Guess I won't need this new suit for Easter Sunday service. I had a hunch that would happen.
Seems to be a whole lotta hunchin' goin' on.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 31, 2020, 08:06:28 AM
Yep, it's all his fault. Damn him.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2020, 10:35:54 AM
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gotta have survivor reflexes!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 31, 2020, 10:55:12 AM
The homebuilder that employs me has had a near record month for sales this March. We generally average just over 3 homes per month, but if all the loans are approved, there will be 11 sales going through completion to starts. Go figure.  Furthermore, if these go through, we'll have at least 25 starts in the hopper for this year already.

Home building is an "essential" activity.  I still am expected to go work.

Not gloating here, but am simply amazed.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2020, 11:25:08 AM
record low interest rates!

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on March 31, 2020, 19:25:25 PM
Had to shop today. Saw many more masks on people as compared to last week. Seems to be much disagreement as to effectiveness/necessity on the news shows amongst various doctors being interviewed. I say wear 'em if ya got 'em.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2020, 19:42:44 PM
All I have is my buff! Wear and wash!  d:b
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 01, 2020, 04:40:16 AM
Quote from: troutrus on March 31, 2020, 19:25:25 PMHad to shop today. Saw many more masks on people as compared to last week. Seems to be much disagreement as to effectiveness/necessity on the news shows amongst various doctors being interviewed. I say wear 'em if ya got 'em.

The SG is trying head off panic, hence saying the what he does.  From his perspective, the discussion is moot because few masks exist for the public to purchase.

The dumbass who says gloves do not help is full of it.  It is much much easier to wash a slick pair gloves while on hands then to wash bare skin, and finger nails.  An 8 year can figure this shit out.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on April 01, 2020, 06:09:54 AM
Yes, the SG means well, but I think trying to head off panic by lying to the public creates loss of credibility for the liar and everyone associated with him, thus creating "a cure that is worse than the problem itself". And "leadership" has already warned us against entering that slippery slope. Taken to extreme, the source of the lies becomes nothing more than the brunt of jokes and every standup comedian's dream.
https://youtu.be/U2pMkW7EwSc
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 01, 2020, 13:03:24 PM
http://wxii12.com/article/graham-county-coronavirus-roadblocks-ban-visitors/31998766?src=app

Graham County Roadblocks!
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 01, 2020, 22:07:12 PM
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 02, 2020, 21:26:37 PM
Got my gvmt money quick  d:b 

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 03, 2020, 07:06:16 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 02, 2020, 21:26:37 PMGot my gvmt money quick  d:b 

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I see you did not use the Pornhub coupons I sent you.  Mail them to troutphisher when you get a chance. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 03, 2020, 12:18:30 PM
Designated Shopper coming to a community near you.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article241719196.html?fbclid=IwAR2sYQf_kaDykFNsp5tBioPwI4bNinuh-79ojuHCkb5-HitBMB8SOWa8YXo
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 03, 2020, 13:52:35 PM
No brainer.  Leave the rugrats at home.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 03, 2020, 15:20:30 PM
Covid vs. US Daily Average Cause of Death

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on April 03, 2020, 18:33:23 PM
Good graphic, sad results.
But it's just another flu, huh?!
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 03, 2020, 20:12:42 PM
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Post by: greg on April 03, 2020, 21:02:26 PM
Damn I just puked a little.
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Post by: greg on April 07, 2020, 21:34:27 PM
Just saw where John Prine has passed away. This sucks.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on April 07, 2020, 21:37:25 PM
https://youtu.be/KOW-Eoms07c
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on April 08, 2020, 12:01:17 PM
Ya knew it was only a matter of time

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/04/07/coronavirus-update-already-struggling-small-businesses-in-south-bay-being-targeted-by-robbers/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: rbphoto on April 08, 2020, 12:38:12 PM
I rather focus on the good that is happening in our community:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/food-for-the-frontline-upstate-sc?utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2C6YHEgrKPt9sVm2dC5wQfMXdn0Yao-XsQ6Aqcq7MoJ7sm6QAen-8UO40


I get the rest of the story from my healthcare family & friends.  Some good, some not so good.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on April 08, 2020, 15:34:37 PM
Is anyone else using Instacart? 

We tried our first delivery yesterday from a CVS after a 3 day wait. Just a few things to see how it went:  ice cream, eggs, nuts, soup, candy. 

Prices are higher than in the store, and we tipped 15%, but ... I have some health issues, and I'm not wanting to mingle in the stores.  It worked well for us. 

Big order from the grocery scheduled to arrive Friday 5 days after the order.  A friend said not to expect a full order; he had several items that were out-of-stock on delivery day.  We'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on April 08, 2020, 16:16:30 PM
Going to do our first Kroger pickup order tomorrow.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 08, 2020, 17:48:20 PM
I did a Lowe's Food pick up the other day. Worked out pretty good. Made an instore beer run and picked up some other stuff today. not many customers at all. No face mask on cashier.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on April 08, 2020, 17:56:59 PM
http://youtu.be/0cQA6d3adPs

Who the heck knew Goldfinger was still together playing? Blast from the 90's Posser Skateboarding days.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 14, 2020, 09:01:41 AM
Feelings of optimism are not welling up at the moment.  Corona viruses of all varieties are tough to nail down, and these facts are tough to come to terms with. Being hunted by a potentially lethal common cold appears to be the new norm from my perspective.  The whole vaccination hope appears to be a pie in the sky.

Perhaps someone more informed than I can make a different and compelling case for what is ahead of us all.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: rbphoto on April 14, 2020, 12:28:59 PM
I'm differently informed than you, but not in my mind any better informed.

The old adage about lies, damned lies and statistics stays in my mind most days.

I think there is faster learning about the spread of this virus than anything we have ever experienced, which is why things are changing with such drama and frequency.

The peak dates by state range wildly because they look at death rates, daily infection rates, hospital usage rates, etc.

Then there is the entire discussion about mitigation, isolation, stay-at-home, hammer & the dance, etc.

Testing has only hit about 1% of the US population with about a 19% infection rate among those tested - source:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2wK_16lPoui2DZ2ZhNVMIRDGpHtyBxIUbK1VUGUjaxqTvsVTbz_740QLM#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

It seems like lower population dense areas are faring better than higher ones.  Makes sense to me.

I think this visual is very telling:

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1712761/?fbclid=IwAR2Tir_IgB47wPzQDTUu4FRGjQBiNdJySP24iXaJCc2vFZZ3C6mZQEhYfDQ

I think the wisest approach moving forward is going to be some form of the hammer & the dance strategy.

I just hope it isn't a 12-18 month long process.

I know I have fished twice in the last couple of weeks and plan to do a lot more in the coming weeks.  My sporting clays shooting is greatly reduced since only one local club is still operating, albeit with significant restrictions. 

My fly tying is getting better!


Raymond
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 14, 2020, 13:30:17 PM
Just looking at maps, I noticed that there are ZERO cases in four Boroughs in New York City

Richmond
Kings
Queens
Bronx

How is this possible?

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on April 14, 2020, 13:43:16 PM
As people hold out hope for a vaccine:
"Two of the world's largest vaccine manufacturers - Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline - collaborate to speed up corona virus vaccine work."
"They said in a statement that they aim to complete all of the work required to file for regulatory approval by the second half of 2021."

The Cliff notes version? Remember the HIV vaccine we were promised? This will not be quick. Or painless. If you have elderly or compromised family and friends, this could be rough. My wife has some blood pressure and respiratory issues. And our 80+ mothers are locked down in assisted living. I'm resigned to losing some family and friends. Sigh. Big socially distant hugs, my friends.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 14, 2020, 14:11:03 PM
The common cold is probably the most well know corona virus.  Ain't no vaccine for it.  Some mastery over the influenza virus (corona) has been attained. If humans are struggling with the older aforementioned corona viruses, how in the heck to do we expect clear dominion over Covid 19?

Fauci stated we would never shake hands again.  I think we are struggling to come to terms with the new reality.

What really causes me heartburn is the seemingly complete inability for the "superpower" to manufacture simple PPE for the its own citizens. We were profoundly sick long before Covid 19 exposed the real sickness.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 14, 2020, 15:55:44 PM
Quote from: Onslow on April 14, 2020, 14:11:03 PMThe common cold is probably the most well know corona virus.  Ain't no vaccine for it.  Some mastery over the influenza virus (corona) has been attained. If humans are struggling with the older aforementioned corona viruses, how in the heck to do we expect clear dominion over Covid 19?

Fauci stated we would never shake hands again.  I think we are struggling to come to terms with the new reality.

What really causes me heartburn is the seemingly complete inability for the "superpower" to manufacture simple PPE for the its own citizens. We were profoundly sick long before Covid 19 exposed the real sickness.



QuoteThere are now 70 vaccine research efforts underway, according to the World Health Organization. Even with the resources of the two pharma giants, the world is likely to need multiple vaccines to meet the unprecedented global demand for a coronavirus vaccine, GSK executives said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-vaccine-sanofi-and-gsk-collaboration-timeline-details-2020-4
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 14, 2020, 17:48:37 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 14, 2020, 15:55:44 PM
Quote from: Onslow on April 14, 2020, 14:11:03 PMThe common cold is probably the most well know corona virus.  Ain't no vaccine for it.  Some mastery over the influenza virus (corona) has been attained. If humans are struggling with the older aforementioned corona viruses, how in the heck to do we expect clear dominion over Covid 19?

Fauci stated we would never shake hands again.  I think we are struggling to come to terms with the new reality.

What really causes me heartburn is the seemingly complete inability for the "superpower" to manufacture simple PPE for the its own citizens. We were profoundly sick long before Covid 19 exposed the real sickness.



QuoteThere are now 70 vaccine research efforts underway, according to the World Health Organization. Even with the resources of the two pharma giants, the world is likely to need multiple vaccines to meet the unprecedented global demand for a coronavirus vaccine, GSK executives said.


I think less than a third of all common colds are caused by corona viruses.  I believe we'll beat this sons-a-bitch #19!!!  It may take 18 months to 2 years, or at least we may be better prepared for the next one.  Hopefully we'll learn.

Must try to glean the positives -- multiple silver linings for me personally – driving less, spending less $, fortuitous reason to keep extra distance from the wife, relearning how to wipe my ass with crude naturals, no longer required to shake hands even with the dipstick kin – the list is voluminous.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 14, 2020, 20:14:52 PM
NC National Forest Closures

Too many people think that stay at home / social distancing means "vacation" let's party or go to a park

 https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2020/04/14/pisgah-national-forest-shuts-down-camping-many-trails-until-august/2988192001/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on April 15, 2020, 07:47:04 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 14, 2020, 20:14:52 PMNC National Forest Closures

Too many people think that stay at home / social distancing means "vacation" let's party or go to a park

 https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2020/04/14/pisgah-national-forest-shuts-down-camping-many-trails-until-august/2988192001/

I hate all the park closures, but that's the reason, damn it. The mountain trails, parks, Parkway, etc. are all PACKED with out-of-towners and out of state people right now. The only grocery store in Blowing Rock is full of tourists during a supposed stay at home order. It's crazy. Like you said, it only takes a case or two coming here to start a hot-spot.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 15, 2020, 07:52:44 AM
Got my Stimulus money  V:;   d:b  and nowhere to go...  :o
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 15, 2020, 08:32:36 AM
Quote from: Phil on April 15, 2020, 07:47:04 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 14, 2020, 20:14:52 PMNC National Forest Closures

Too many people think that stay at home / social distancing means "vacation" let's party or go to a park

 https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2020/04/14/pisgah-national-forest-shuts-down-camping-many-trails-until-august/2988192001/

I hate all the park closures, but that's the reason, damn it. The mountain trails, parks, Parkway, etc. are all PACKED with out-of-towners and out of state people right now. The only grocery store in Blowing Rock is full of tourists during a supposed stay at home order. It's crazy. Like you said, it only takes a case or two coming here to start a hot-spot.

I'm hanging out in my company vehicle at Ransom st.  This place seems dead to me :wave Tis a pity it is so cold and windy.  Conditions are not ideal for a moment on the Middle Fork during my lunch break.

The Elkin Lowes seems to be a social hotspot.  More patrons there than the stores in Greensboro.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on April 15, 2020, 09:05:19 AM
Quote from: Onslow on April 15, 2020, 08:32:36 AM
Quote from: Phil on April 15, 2020, 07:47:04 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 14, 2020, 20:14:52 PMNC National Forest Closures

Too many people think that stay at home / social distancing means "vacation" let's party or go to a park

 https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2020/04/14/pisgah-national-forest-shuts-down-camping-many-trails-until-august/2988192001/

I hate all the park closures, but that's the reason, damn it. The mountain trails, parks, Parkway, etc. are all PACKED with out-of-towners and out of state people right now. The only grocery store in Blowing Rock is full of tourists during a supposed stay at home order. It's crazy. Like you said, it only takes a case or two coming here to start a hot-spot.

I'm hanging out in my company vehicle at Ransom st.  This place seems dead to me :wave Tis a pity it is so cold and windy.  Conditions are not ideal for a moment on the Middle Fork during my lunch break.

The Elkin Lowes seems to be a social hotspot.  More patrons there than the stores in Greensboro.



Today is cold, and it's Wednesday. You should have been here this weekend, or on any sunny day at Bass Lake trails or the Broyhill Lake walkways and count the out of state tags. The grocery store has been busy with out of towners.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 15, 2020, 09:32:53 AM
Well, I've been traveling to the Smith River as often as I can.. I get gas in Winston ($1.49/gallon) and stop for ice at a self-service machine ($2.00 / 16 lbs) I don't stop anywhere in VA, and I don't have any contact with anybody! #staythefuckaway #businessasusualfordabugger

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 15, 2020, 10:45:21 AM
My Isolation Breaking Point
I can't wait for social distancing to end, so I can be alone again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/opinion/covid-fishing.html

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: itieuglyflies on April 15, 2020, 17:16:20 PM
I was so depressed last night about Covid-19, the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security,
retirement funds, etc. I called a Suicide Hotline and got a call center in Pakistan and when I told
them I was suicidal they got all excited and ask if I could drive a truck!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 15, 2020, 17:38:05 PM
not funny itieuglyflies....

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 15, 2020, 20:28:00 PM
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) — The closure of all 56 Tennessee state parks has been extended indefinitely.

The announcement comes as officials at the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation continue to monitor health and safety guidance related to COVID-19. All parks had previously been set to reopen on April 14.

"We are grateful for the cooperation and understanding of Tennesseans during this difficult period," Jim Bryson, deputy commissioner of the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation, said. "We are extending closure of the parks in the interest of safety for everyone."


https://www.newschannel5.com/news/all-tennessee-state-parks-closed-indefinitely?fbclid=IwAR2WpgCrOAwI_gfxblLLrCLxgugu3irPuolnUjf7BZjq9ohz66tN5rwyFMM
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 15, 2020, 22:33:46 PM
This just in;

As stimulus checks hit bank accounts , gun sales pick up again!

Along with other sporting goods like kayaks, bicycles, home gyms and fishing supplies!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 16, 2020, 04:35:22 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on April 15, 2020, 22:33:46 PMThis just in;

As stimulus checks hit bank accounts , gun sales pick up again!

Along with other sporting goods like kayaks, bicycles, home gyms and fishing supplies!


Sounds like great stimulus for Chinese manufacturing.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 17, 2020, 06:15:34 AM
Found the whole essay to be rather entertaining.

https://www.davidwarrenonline.com/2020/04/16/the-world-cannot-be-fixed/


QuoteThose with a broader sense of current history, might observe that Nixon and Kissinger made a grave mistake by their "opening to China." But that was an argument I lost nearly half a century ago. China should have remained in isolation, until the demonic Maoist regime had collapsed. Here, however, I must not try to lure myself into the bottomless history of lost causes.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 17, 2020, 06:54:53 AM
https://www.boston25news.com/news/cdc-reviewing-stunning-universal-testing-results-boston-homeless-shelter/Z253TFBO6RG4HCUAARBO4YWO64/

>>>>>BOSTON — The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now "actively looking into" results from universal COVID-19 testing at Pine Street Inn homeless shelter.
The broad-scale testing took place at the shelter in Boston's South End a week and a half ago because of a small cluster of cases there.

Of the 397 people tested, 146 people tested positive. Not a single one had any symptoms.[/B}
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 17, 2020, 08:53:59 AM
Population density matters.  So does viral load.

Theoretically, Elkin and Surry county should be completely wrapped up with the virus.  Many here think Covid 19 is a joke.  They go to Lowes without PPE, employees rarely have PPE, people are eating lunch with bare hands after they shop in the parking area, people are talking in close proximity in parking lots, customers are standing beside barriers to talk to clerks, greasy spoon cashiers are not wearing gloves handling cash.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on April 21, 2020, 19:24:04 PM
I believe we're all intelligent enough to process this.

QuoteChinese scientists have found that Europe and America's East Coast have been infected by some of the most aggressive Covid-19 strains, as they discovered dozens of virus mutations. These destroy a host's cells faster than others.
The ability of the novel coronavirus to mutate has been previously vastly underestimated, a team from China's Zhejiang University, led by Professor Li Lanjuan, says in a new study. The group found as many as 33 virus mutations in just 11 coronavirus patients they examined in the city of Hangzhou.

The researchers say that 60 percent of the strains they discovered turned out to be entirely new. In a worrying development, they also discovered that the virus's mutations directly affect its deadliness. Their research revealed that the most aggressive type of Covid-19 could create a virus load 270 times greater than the least potent one.



The virus load is the measure of its quantity in a certain volume of bodily fluid, usually blood plasma. It particularly shows how quickly a pathogen could propagate through the organism and destroy its cells. Unfortunately for Europeans, one of the most aggressive strains found by the Chinese scientists appears to be similar to the one that has spread across the continent, particularly Italy and Spain, the pre-print of the study published on the website medRxiv.org revealed on Sunday.

The same strain came from Europe to New York, which has since become one of the worst affected US states. America's West Coast, however, appears to be infected by another, less deadly strain that arrived directly from China.

Nonetheless, that doesn't mean those on the West Coast have less cause for concern, as even less powerful strains can cause a serious ailment, the Zhejiang University team warns. They note that two of the observed patients, in their 30s and 50s, who contracted a weaker strain, still suffered severe symptoms.

ALSO ON RT.COM
Worldwide Covid-19 death toll soars past 170,000 – Johns Hopkins University
Most importantly, though, the scientists say their discoveries could affect the development of the much-needed vaccine, because a one-size-fits-all solution might not work in case of Covid-19.

"Drug and vaccine development, while urgent, needs to take the impact of these accumulating mutations, especially the founding mutations, into account to avoid potential pitfalls," the team says.

Globally, the novel coronavirus has thus far infected more than 2.3 million people and claimed more than 170,000 lives.


https://www.rt.com/news/486425-covid-19-mutations-deadlier-strains/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on April 21, 2020, 19:33:54 PM
Buckle down.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on April 23, 2020, 19:31:28 PM
Hallelujah!!!!  I now have optimism.
 
http://youtu.be/j8Sh8l68j7s
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 23, 2020, 20:11:45 PM
OMFG he is a moron
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on April 24, 2020, 06:54:17 AM
Covid19 from a NC physician's view -- everyone should read this.

"Let me introduce myself: I am a practicing ER doctor with a Bachelors degree in cell and molecular biology/genetics and a Masters degree in public health in addition to my doctorate.
COVID is not a flu. Not even a little. Here are reasons why:

1. It is a separate species. It is no more like influenza than you are like a hippo. DIFFERENT SPECIES.
2. It is an airborne virus. This means the tiny droplets can stay in the air for a full 2 hours. So if a person coughed in aisle 4 of Target 1.5 hours ago, they may be home now but their covid cloud is still hanging there just waiting for you to walk by and take a breath. Influenza is not an airborne virus. It is droplet spread- meaning someone has to directly crop dust you with their sneeze to get you sick. Covid is much more contagious.
3. Covid is more virulent. Virulence factor is a measure of how catchy something is. For example, the flu is like beer. It takes a bunch to get you drunk. Covid is more like tequila - A little goes a long way. You need to suck up a lot of flu particles to actually catch the flu; with covid, even a few particles is enough to infect you.
4. Covid has a longer incubation than the flu. When you catch the flu, you typically get sick in the next 1-2 days. This is awesome because it means you stay at home while contagious because you feel like a heap of fried garbage. Covid has a blissful 5-9 days of symptom free time during which you are well enough to head to the movies, gym or mar-a-lago while also being contagious enough to infect everyone you encounter.
5. Covid has a longer duration of illness than flu. With covid, you have a 5-9 days of blissful asymptomatic contagiousness. This then turns into about 1 week of cough and overall feeling like hell but still surviving. Week 2 is when things hit the fan and people end up unable to breathe and on a ventilator. Many stay on the vent for up to 15 days. 5 days incubating+7 kinda sick days + 15 days on a ventilator makes for 27 days of virus spreading illness, (assuming your don't just die of massive asphyxiation and body-wide collapse from overwhelming infection somewhere in that last week).The flu has an average incubation of 1-2 days and sick time of 7 days for a total of 9 infectious days. In the world of deadly viruses, that 18 extra days might as well be a millennia.
6. Covid is more deadly. A LOT more deadly. The flu has about a 0.2% mortality rate, meaning 2 of every thousand people who get sick with flu will die. On the contrary, the death rate from covid is reportedly 2%, so 10 times more deadly than flu. Ten times more death seems like a lot more death to me. Whats more worrisome is that 2% is actually incorrect because it doesn't kill kids so that skews the average. With covid, age is a major factor in survival. If we don't include people under 30, the death rate for adults is on average 4.5%. 9 out of every 200 adults that get this will die from it. Do you know 200 adults? Do you think losing 9 of them is no big deal? Since mortality increases with age in covid, the risk gets worse as you get older so if we put 100 grannies in a room with covid, only 85 would make it out alive to make pies and tell great stories of the old days... and that just sucks.

I hope that helps to clarify why covid is in no way a flu, why you are in no way a hippo, and why staying home is the only way for non-essential people to do their part while I spend my days at work covered in a plastic poncho, sucking air through a stuffy respirator mask, leaving my scrubs in my driveway, showering the covid off at 4am when I get in, and thinking to myself "now do u still think it was just a flu?" as I risk my own life with my face 2 inches from their highly contagious, gasping mouth while I slide the plastic tube down their throat and start up the ventilator."
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Post by: troutrus on April 24, 2020, 07:10:17 AM
So I noticed in the video above that trumpsky did suggest that the internal organ cleansing with disinfectant should be done by a medical doctor. Guessing he's concerned that some of his disciples may try it at home, like the guy that took the fish tank cleaner after shithead recommended chloroquine.
So see, he is learning.
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 26, 2020, 14:39:51 PM
Gov Cooper: State parks to reopen in phase 1. Rangers: It's 'weird' without people around.

if all goes well in the fight against coronavirus, North Carolina state parks can reopen May 9

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article242261136.html
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on April 29, 2020, 12:32:47 PM
Rules from NJ when they open the parks on May 2!

Going to be a Real shit show with closed bathrooms!

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Post by: troutrus on April 30, 2020, 07:25:54 AM
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Post by: Al on April 30, 2020, 08:14:21 AM
Quote from: troutrus on April 24, 2020, 07:10:17 AMSo I noticed in the video above that trumpsky did suggest that the internal organ cleansing with disinfectant should be done by a medical doctor. Guessing he's concerned that some of his disciples may try it at home, like the guy that took the fish tank cleaner after shithead recommended chloroquine.
So see, he is learning.

Might be more to it than him just drinking fish bowel cleaner because Trump suggested it

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/04/homicide-cops-looking-into-death-of-arizona-man-who-drank-chloroquine-to-ward-off-coronavirus-report.html?fbclid=IwAR3AZYfnHbPQVCyowRKg_y4O-0WF545tXwBiOMJsSy6M1PCfo313a0hZ0VI
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Post by: troutrus on April 30, 2020, 18:30:29 PM
I'll raise Al. 😁


https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/mesa/pd-reports-that-mesa-chloroquine-phosphate-death-is-homicide-investigation-are-not-true
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Post by: Al on April 30, 2020, 21:57:06 PM
Quote from: troutrus on April 30, 2020, 18:30:29 PMI'll raise Al. 😁


https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/mesa/pd-reports-that-mesa-chloroquine-phosphate-death-is-homicide-investigation-are-not-true

Back at ya from the same source you posted - Mesa police said. "The death of Gary... has not been ruled a homicide at this time."
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Post by: troutrus on May 01, 2020, 07:08:57 AM
Let's call it a push Al. We are too old to be bickering about some dumb ass drinking aquarium chemicals. I gotta go see if I can find a place to fish, and I'm sure you have more important things to do as well.
Take care and stay safe. ✌🏼
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 02, 2020, 07:08:01 AM
A new short film by a Wilmington ad agency encourages Delawareans to show resolve and see a better future beyond the coronavirus pandemic.

The film is called "Greater Wilmington, April 2020 - See Togetherness, See Resolve, See the Future." It was produced by NuPOINT.


https://youtu.be/yv41566rNyo

https://www.delawarepublic.org/post/enlighten-me-wilmington-ad-agency-produces-short-film-showing-emptiness-during-covid-19
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 02, 2020, 13:56:39 PM
Austin park ranger's distancing reminder is met with shove into river

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200501/austin-park-rangerrsquos-distancing-reminder-is-met-with-shove-into-river


Austin Parks Ranger Gets Pushed In Water At Commons Ford from r/Austin


Video: https://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/gbait0/austin_parks_ranger_gets_pushed_in_water_at/

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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 03, 2020, 06:33:38 AM
https://youtu.be/Z89Q7rFGm8Y
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 03, 2020, 07:35:55 AM

New Rochelle Costco calls cops to help control chaotic crowds

https://nypost.com/2020/05/02/new-york-costco-calls-cops-to-help-control-chaotic-crowds/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=mail_app

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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 04, 2020, 19:58:18 PM
This is why we can't have nice things


Security guard at Family Dollar shot and killed after telling customer to put on face mask
https://myfox8.com/news/security-guard-at-family-dollar-shot-and-killed-after-telling-customer-to-put-on-face-mask/?anvplayer-autoplay=0
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Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on May 05, 2020, 03:49:52 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 04, 2020, 19:58:18 PMThis is why we can't have nice things


Security guard at Family Dollar shot and killed after telling customer to put on face mask
https://myfox8.com/news/security-guard-at-family-dollar-shot-and-killed-after-telling-customer-to-put-on-face-mask/?anvplayer-autoplay=0

Unbelievable!  Somewhere in this wretchedness, there must be a lesson.   A warning that bad water will make you nuts?  Too many guns in the hands of too many crazies?  Sad, but perhaps wise, even with collateral damage, it may be time to let mother nature's virus take out the trash? 
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 05, 2020, 11:41:58 AM
come on down and join the party in Raleigh every Tuesday...  <-;:

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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 05, 2020, 20:05:47 PM
interesting post lifted from the bookface

QuoteFor a slightly different perspective at this moment, imagine you were born in 1900. On your 14th birthday, World War I starts, and ends when you are 18. Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until your 20th birthday. On your 29th birthday, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, the World GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy. When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren't even over the hill yet. And don't try to catch your breath. On your 41st birthday, the United States is fully pulled into WWII until you are 45. At 50, the Korean War starts. At 55 the Vietnam War begins. When you are 62 the Cuban Missile Crisis threatens to end life on our planet as we know it. When you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends.
Perspective is amazing. Yes, we are in a challenging time nowadays. All times...all generations are challenged. Try to remember everything that those born in 1900 endured and accomplished, and have faith that we will endure as well.
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Post by: troutrus on May 05, 2020, 20:40:37 PM
So many rules; so little enforcement. Lock Them Up
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Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on May 06, 2020, 07:39:35 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 05, 2020, 20:05:47 PMinteresting post lifted from the bookface

QuoteFor a slightly different perspective at this moment, imagine you were born in 1900. On your 14th birthday, World War I starts, and ends when you are 18. Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until your 20th birthday. On your 29th birthday, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, the World GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy. When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren't even over the hill yet. And don't try to catch your breath. On your 41st birthday, the United States is fully pulled into WWII until you are 45. At 50, the Korean War starts. At 55 the Vietnam War begins. When you are 62 the Cuban Missile Crisis threatens to end life on our planet as we know it. When you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends.
Perspective is amazing. Yes, we are in a challenging time nowadays. All times...all generations are challenged. Try to remember everything that those born in 1900 endured and accomplished, and have faith that we will endure as well.

Interesting.  Rationalizing/analyzing in terms of numbers seems to suit me – juxtaposition, space, resources, abundance of peckerheads, etc. all correlated to the numbers.

The year you were born, there were ~ 76 million U.S. citizens.  At age 14, in 1914, there were around 99 million. At the end of the Spanish flu there were over 106 million inhabitants in the U.S.  In 1929 the population had grown to almost 122 million. At the end of the GD there were ~125.5 million.  When you're 41, the population of the U.S. is over 133 million.  The trend continues, and at 75 the Vietnam debacle is over, and the U.S. population stands at ~216 million.
 
Yes, you "endured", but does the increased numbers now make it more difficult?  And "faith", that confidence and trust without evidence, does little or nothing to comfort me.   I am consoled however by how nature is elastic and opportunistic.  Critters and vegetation now on holiday, taking over closed campgrounds, reclaiming unmanicured landscapes, etc. 

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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 06, 2020, 08:01:24 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on May 06, 2020, 07:39:35 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 05, 2020, 20:05:47 PMinteresting post lifted from the bookface

QuoteFor a slightly different perspective at this moment, imagine you were born in 1900. On your 14th birthday, World War I starts, and ends when you are 18. Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until your 20th birthday. On your 29th birthday, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, the World GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy. When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren't even over the hill yet. And don't try to catch your breath. On your 41st birthday, the United States is fully pulled into WWII until you are 45. At 50, the Korean War starts. At 55 the Vietnam War begins. When you are 62 the Cuban Missile Crisis threatens to end life on our planet as we know it. When you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends.
Perspective is amazing. Yes, we are in a challenging time nowadays. All times...all generations are challenged. Try to remember everything that those born in 1900 endured and accomplished, and have faith that we will endure as well.

Interesting.  Rationalizing/analyzing in terms of numbers seems to suit me – juxtaposition, space, resources, abundance of peckerheads, etc. all correlated to the numbers.

The year you were born, there were ~ 76 million U.S. citizens.  At age 14, in 1914, there were around 99 million. At the end of the Spanish flu there were over 106 million inhabitants in the U.S.  In 1929 the population had grown to almost 122 million. At the end of the GD there were ~125.5 million.  When you're 41, the population of the U.S. is over 133 million.  The trend continues, and at 75 the Vietnam debacle is over, and the U.S. population stands at ~216 million.
 
Yes, you "endured", but does the increased numbers now make it more difficult?  And "faith", that confidence and trust without evidence, does little or nothing to comfort me.   I am consoled however by how nature is elastic and opportunistic.  Critters and vegetation now on holiday, taking over closed campgrounds, reclaiming unmanicured landscapes, etc. 



I guess you could say the number of idiots were fewer and farther between  :drum.
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Post by: Onslow on May 06, 2020, 19:05:26 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on May 06, 2020, 07:39:35 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 05, 2020, 20:05:47 PMinteresting post lifted from the bookface

QuoteFor a slightly different perspective at this moment, imagine you were born in 1900. On your 14th birthday, World War I starts, and ends when you are 18. Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until your 20th birthday. On your 29th birthday, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, the World GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy. When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren't even over the hill yet. And don't try to catch your breath. On your 41st birthday, the United States is fully pulled into WWII until you are 45. At 50, the Korean War starts. At 55 the Vietnam War begins. When you are 62 the Cuban Missile Crisis threatens to end life on our planet as we know it. When you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends.
Perspective is amazing. Yes, we are in a challenging time nowadays. All times...all generations are challenged. Try to remember everything that those born in 1900 endured and accomplished, and have faith that we will endure as well.

Interesting.  Rationalizing/analyzing in terms of numbers seems to suit me – juxtaposition, space, resources, abundance of peckerheads, etc. all correlated to the numbers.

The year you were born, there were ~ 76 million U.S. citizens.  At age 14, in 1914, there were around 99 million. At the end of the Spanish flu there were over 106 million inhabitants in the U.S.  In 1929 the population had grown to almost 122 million. At the end of the GD there were ~125.5 million.  When you're 41, the population of the U.S. is over 133 million.  The trend continues, and at 75 the Vietnam debacle is over, and the U.S. population stands at ~216 million.
 
Yes, you "endured", but does the increased numbers now make it more difficult?  And "faith", that confidence and trust without evidence, does little or nothing to comfort me.   I am consoled however by how nature is elastic and opportunistic.  Critters and vegetation now on holiday, taking over closed campgrounds, reclaiming unmanicured landscapes, etc. 



India's population has grown by 340,000,000 since 1997.  Now that is a population problem.

The US has a self importance problem, which includes ironic delusions of supremacy.  Covid 19 has tested the US, and has shown the world including our adversaries what a fine collection bozos we've become.
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Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on May 06, 2020, 19:25:44 PM
Quote from: Onslow on May 06, 2020, 19:05:26 PMThe US has a self importance problem, which includes ironic delusions of supremacy. 

I agree, and I recall this video.

http://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 07, 2020, 07:38:58 AM
y'all ain't going to believe this...

Alcohol, pot delivered to homeless isolating in San Francisco hotel rooms

QuoteThe city's health department defends the program as a way to keep COVID-19 positive addicts indoors.
KRON4's Maureen Kelly talked to a formerly homeless addict turned advocate who is concerned the city is blurring the line between harm reduction and enabling.

https://www.kron4.com/news/alcohol-pot-delivered-to-homeless-isolating-in-san-francisco-hotel-rooms/
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 07, 2020, 08:46:55 AM
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full doc..
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The administration canned the CDC's plan on reopening the economy...

AP article... https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4
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Post by: Phil on May 07, 2020, 16:40:03 PM
Damn, what an article. Just... damn.  b';
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Post by: troutrus on May 07, 2020, 18:59:28 PM
The algorithm shown is a bit complex for a nation where most folks want it all and want it now.
Live and Let Die
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 08, 2020, 07:51:01 AM
Carona good for bees?




https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200506-why-lockdown-is-helping-bees?ocid=ww.social.link.email
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Post by: Onslow on May 08, 2020, 09:21:46 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 08, 2020, 07:51:01 AMCarona good for bees?




https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200506-why-lockdown-is-helping-bees?ocid=ww.social.link.email

The pollution is the plastic foundation in the frame the lady is handling. Bees hate that crap.  That is why the wax looks like hell. 




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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 10, 2020, 08:59:21 AM
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Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on May 10, 2020, 09:49:50 AM
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/05/09/excessive-littering-prompts-crackdown-cocoa-beach/3095434001/

"We encourage everyone to come and enjoy the beaches but pick up after yourself."

Yeah, right!  Pie in the sky, and further confirmation we are the greatest.  A pandemic brings out the best of people.

Littering, a topic that has consumed me lately, appears to be universal.  Rt. 39 leading into my beloved Mountain Grove has become a trash heap.  Before the virus, the local fire and rescue was making preliminary plans with VDOT for a volunteer trash pickup.  Now the rural thoroughfare is even worse.  As soon as this crazy shit is over, I'll make another push for action to collect and educate.  But it is damned hard educating rednecks and converting them to hayseeds.  I used to differentiate the two for my students.  A redneck is someone drinking a beer and discards the can or bottle out the window; a hayseed is someone drinking a beer and throws the can or bottle in the back of his/her pickup until they get home with access to an appropriate refuse container. 

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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 11, 2020, 07:58:29 AM
Great Smoky Mountains National Park visitors crowd trails, pass barriers into blocked off areas on reopening day

https://www.wxii12.com/article/coronavirus-smoky-mountains-national-park-reopening-day/32428038#


This is why we can't have nice things...
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Post by: Phil on May 11, 2020, 08:45:09 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on May 11, 2020, 07:58:29 AMGreat Smoky Mountains National Park visitors crowd trails, pass barriers into blocked off areas on reopening day

https://www.wxii12.com/article/coronavirus-smoky-mountains-national-park-reopening-day/32428038#


This is why we can't have nice things...

Yep. They're doing the same thing up here along the BR Parkway, Moses Cone, Bass Lake, Trout Lake, etc. Even though the viaduct area on Grandfather is closed, hundreds of peeps are parking and walking to it. Huge weekend crowds everywhere. Shulls Mill rd. where it meets the Parkway (was closed last I looked) is so crowded with parked cars, picnickers, etc. it looks like a rock concert.
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 14, 2020, 09:14:00 AM
https://youtu.be/h4PYj9Issqc
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Post by: Onslow on May 17, 2020, 05:24:03 AM
Hardship sometimes brings the best out people. 3 organizations in Elkin that serve the hungry, battered women, and troubled youth, all recently received collectively a largesse well over 6 figures from one person.  Each of the three entities will be receiving around 100k.
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 17, 2020, 17:08:54 PM
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 17, 2020, 21:41:59 PM
Stupid Humans

https://medium.com/nwnc/stone-mountain-will-make-changes-after-saturday-incidents-6865087ae267


>>> "People [were] parked all along the park road [and] in the middle of the park road," Hall said. "[They also] started picnicking in the middle of the park roads."
As a result, park officials closed Stone Mountain until just before 4 p.m., as they worked to manage the crowd and the injuries. Hall said that beginning on Sunday, there will be a tighter limit placed on how many people can be in the park at one time.
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Post by: Phil on May 19, 2020, 08:58:18 AM
Hey Onslow -- from your post on the shoutbox - "Wilkes county now has 447 known cases of Covid 19.  That is about 1 in 150 people."
Is this correct? I'm not good at math. That sounds pretty grim, though!
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Post by: Onslow on May 19, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Quote from: Phil on May 19, 2020, 08:58:18 AMHey Onslow -- from your post on the shoutbox - "Wilkes county now has 447 known cases of Covid 19.  That is about 1 in 150 people."
Is this correct? I'm not good at math. That sounds pretty grim, though!

Yes, that is indeed correct.  The explosion in cases in both in Surry and Wilkes are what I find most alarming. For the longest time, cases were low, and case growth was flat. Many of these people work in poultry processing, and are hispanic, but contrary to prevailing opinions, Hispanics are humans, and are statistically relevant. Cases in my zip code have exploded also.
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Post by: Native Fisher on May 19, 2020, 09:54:45 AM
Hispanic communities are being hit hard as they didn't adopt the safe distancing practices early on or not at all.  Also they tend to live in homes with extended families so more chance to infect larger numbers.  Poultry plant workers and their families are the vast majority of cases in my area.  Stay far away from workers and the plants if you have them in your area.
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Post by: Onslow on May 19, 2020, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: Native Fisher on May 19, 2020, 09:54:45 AMHispanic communities are being hit hard as they didn't adopt the safe distancing practices early on or not at all.

I do agree Hispanics are vulnerable due to living arrangements, but will respectfully disagree with the rest. The European Americans in around where I live are the most oblivious and reckless bunch I've come across.  They appear to never have experienced hardship.  The most cautious eating establishment I've come across is owned and operated by Hispanics. Tyson, Wayne Farms, and the American consumer are responsible for the whatever conditions these workers must endure. It is no secret what goes on in these plants, but we continue to support them through our purchases of their products. As a general rule, companies that are overly exploitive will fold.  One reaps what one sows.
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Post by: Native Fisher on May 19, 2020, 13:22:04 PM
Unfortunately, it was happening here.  They were getting cases where people had been at large family gatherings after the state had announced restrictions.  A recent one went out of state to a national hotspot and brought it back. I understand that family and celebrations are important to their culture but you need to understand the circumstances and respect the state guidelines. My wife banned my daughter that lives in Richmond from visiting our house.
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Post by: Onslow on May 19, 2020, 14:00:49 PM
Quote from: Native Fisher on May 19, 2020, 13:22:04 PMUnfortunately, it was happening here.  They were getting cases where people had been at large family gatherings after the state had announced restrictions.  A recent one went out of state to a national hotspot and brought it back. I understand that family and celebrations are important to their culture but you need to understand the circumstances and respect the state guidelines. My wife banned my daughter that lives in Richmond from visiting our house.

White extended family gatherings are nearly nonstop in my hood since phase I started in NC. I have no idea why. The risk level has increased at least 10 fold in the last two weeks. There is more socializing going on now than there was before the virus. Said gatherings do not consist of local fam, but people from all over the state, and some out of state. Main street is clogged with their cars.

When my wife goes to work, she sneaks around trying to avoid people.  She locks her classroom door, and shuts the blinds, and keeps the lights off to work. If not, people will expect hugs.  This is why school cannot start.  School could start back up this Fall if people were clear headed enough to follow protocol, but short attention spans, lack of discipline, and laziness will make any attempt to resume on site classes an epic disaster.
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Post by: Phil on May 19, 2020, 14:57:07 PM
"The risk level has increased at least 10 fold in the last two weeks. There is more socializing going on now than there was before the virus."
Agree, Onslow. Same happening here. People have no discipline or attention spans, or are just plain stupid, imo. I heard a Yahoo say, "We're smart enough not to get sick." He was standing with a group of people, none were wearing masks or gloves.  b';
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Post by: troutfanatic on May 19, 2020, 15:58:48 PM
We are not even beginning to get over the hump yet.

Take your Plaquenil/hydroxychloroquine like our fearless leader and it'll be alright.
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 19, 2020, 17:02:30 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/19/yellowstone-coronavirus-reopening-grand-teton-covid-19?CMP=share_btn_fb

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Post by: Phil on May 19, 2020, 17:11:20 PM
 b';
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Post by: Onslow on May 20, 2020, 17:15:47 PM
https://www.rt.com/russia/489144-tula-nurse-protective-suit-bikini/

What a sweetheart
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 20, 2020, 17:21:55 PM
Phase 2 is green lighted

I'm still operating on Phase Zero
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 24, 2020, 16:47:17 PM
https://youtu.be/wdOY_mt3UlY
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 29, 2020, 01:54:47 AM
Official reminds public to avoid touching other people's balls https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uowPF_1589913311
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2020, 12:47:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100000754706789/posts/2818416751526787/
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Post by: Woolly Bugger on May 31, 2020, 13:22:19 PM
https://twitter.com/a1iendays/status/1266947321872482304?s=20

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 22, 2020, 16:53:10 PM
I wonder if our hubris and individualism, coupled with firm tribalism, will get the best of us?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/doctor-believes-this-is-why-cases-are-trending-up-in-us-but-down-elsewhere/vi-BB15JQZL?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on July 02, 2020, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on June 22, 2020, 16:53:10 PMI wonder if our hubris and individualism, coupled with firm tribalism, will get the best of us?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/doctor-believes-this-is-why-cases-are-trending-up-in-us-but-down-elsewhere/vi-BB15JQZL?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds

Add stupidity and ignorance and I think ya hit the old nail square on the head.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on July 02, 2020, 12:22:03 PM
When our nation has a leader that will choose music themes such as this vs "Live and let die", perhaps we will again be viewed as a world leader.

https://youtu.be/4M7c-JOnPdw
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on July 28, 2020, 18:19:05 PM
So a well known person in my community went to Pawleys Island, took selfies smoking a cigar and various other pics, one of which had a caption saying, "what virus?"

This fella came home, hit the local stores, and promptly became very ill with the Covid 19. Both his wife and MIL have it also. They are in a high risk group.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on July 28, 2020, 18:37:33 PM
Thin the herd, I guess. Just don't get near my ol' ass.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on July 28, 2020, 19:02:46 PM
At least gubment funds are being put to good use.
https://news.yahoo.com/feds-charge-florida-man-fraud-030345465.html
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on July 29, 2020, 08:35:23 AM
I just ordered a half dozen white lab coats, with "Mountain Grove Medical Center" on 6 and my name (plus "Head of Epidemiology") on 1, embroidered.  A video will follow, which I hope will go viral, promoting fellatio (both administering and receiving) as a cure and prevention for our latest viral threat.  It is my hope that some of you guys will benefit.  COVID-19, only 19 or more hummers will cure you and keep the virus at bay.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dark-money-and-pac-s-coordinated-reopen-push-are-behind-doctors-viral-hydroxychloroquine-video/ar-BB17iepx?ocid=msedgntp
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on July 30, 2020, 19:35:01 PM
The anti hydroxychlororquine crowd may just have a Trump derangement issue. It is well known that many popular drugs such a statins can be quite harmful, and are over prescribed. Most supposed common cold treatments are not effective, but yet what do we protest? 

I'm for wearing a mask or respirator, hygienic behavior, social distancing, and could be moved to take the Trump drug for treatment until a vaccine is available.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on July 31, 2020, 04:48:41 AM
Initial projections regarding the number of people that will get sick, and die, may not have been far fetched. I fear we'll reach a tipping point well before Christmas. 

The dollar is collapsing, and with all free money going out the gate, It is a safe bet inflation will become an issue. With many Americans living well beyond their means, and our prosperity is a result of overspending, the worst is yet to come. When there is no incentive to behave, I believe may will start behaving very poorly.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on August 02, 2020, 09:48:47 AM
https://youtu.be/m_HZectGDlo

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on August 11, 2020, 15:23:19 PM
^^^ Now that's funny right there. :cheers
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on August 12, 2020, 19:06:09 PM
Good news perhaps?  Enough with the Cunty News Network.

QuoteOutside the US, researchers are also closely tracking the role of population immunity in national responses. Sweden, for example, did not impose a strict lockdown, and saw a large number of deaths starting in April. Since then, however, the number of new infections has declined. The nation's leaders said last week that children would go back to school unmasked.

"I would say in Sweden there is no doubt that immunity plays an important role, more than in other countries," says Britton. "Now this epidemic is slowly stopping."
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/08/11/1006366/immunity-slowing-down-coronavirus-parts-us/?itm_source=parsely-api

The graph is worth waiting for.

https://www.thelocal.se/20200724/why-are-swedens-coronavirus-figure-falling-so-sharply
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on August 28, 2020, 00:00:45 AM
An Eden nursing/rehab facility has lost 4 residents to the virus in the last several weeks, with dozens more residents and staff infected. A Madison facility is dealing with multiple infection as well And the local stores including Food Lion and Walmart are still failing to enforce the facemask policy that is posted at their entrances. Very sad. b';
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on August 28, 2020, 06:10:11 AM
Had an older lady come in my shop yesterday. She was asking how long does it take to order and get carpet sample? I told her usually about a weeek but with Covid it could take longer because mills are running behind. She said Covid is such a joke it's going away after election. Said she read that on the internet. I didn't say anything but know my expression had to say what the fuck?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on August 28, 2020, 08:29:15 AM
Ignorance abounds.
I don't envy folks that work directly with the public, particularly in these days and times.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on August 29, 2020, 11:30:21 AM
Quote from: troutrus on August 28, 2020, 08:29:15 AMIgnorance abounds.
I don't envy folks that work directly with the public, particularly in these days and times.

I work with the public, albeit with those who own homes worth over 200k from all walks of life, and ethnicity. In that world things are fine, with the possible exception of poor physical health due to poor dietary intake, lack of exercise, and pill popping. 

That being said, most US citizens are fragile and entitled. Many believe life should be a 3D printer product without burrs, or rough patches.  Earth does not give two shits about humans, and as long as peeps do not come to terms with these facts, life will be a struggle. Contentment is largely about rational expectations, and what kind of noise is between our ears.

If one wants to be find joy in life, document every unnatural convenience one enjoys, and be grateful for every plate of food, and every friend. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on August 29, 2020, 11:44:03 AM
Quote from: Onslow on August 29, 2020, 11:30:21 AMThat being said, most US citizens are fragile and entitled. Many believe life should be a 3D printer product without burrs, or rough patches.  Earth does not give two shits about humans, and as long as peeps do not come to terms with these facts, life will be a struggle. Contentment is largely about rational expectations, and what kind of noise is between our ears.

If one wants to be find joy in life, document every unnatural convenience one enjoys, every plate of food, and every friend. 

Good stuff!!! Sound wisdom!!! Add natural convenience and you have a chapter for your next book.

True, simple pleasures.   I look at Little Back Creek every morning while drinking my coffee.  It continues to run down slope and has not changed direction.  All is well. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on August 30, 2020, 11:31:17 AM
Guess the Rooster Fish trip with my son will have to wait for another time. Old as I'm getting, he may end up going without me in some future year. 🙁

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on September 08, 2020, 21:34:34 PM
The rally down at Smith Reynolds airfield is being considered a stupid spreader event.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on September 08, 2020, 22:08:08 PM
Quote from: troutrus on September 08, 2020, 21:34:34 PMThe rally down at Smith Reynolds airfield is being considered a stooped spreader event.

Yep, they will track that and anyone who sneezes within the next month will be blamed on Trump.

I guess there is no way to track the peaceful protesters, many of whom are traveling from a long ways off to join in.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 09, 2020, 06:51:26 AM
Quote from: Al on September 08, 2020, 22:08:08 PM
Quote from: troutrus on September 08, 2020, 21:34:34 PMThe rally down at Smith Reynolds airfield is being considered a stooped spreader event.

Yep, they will track that and anyone who sneezes within the next month will be blamed on Trump.

I guess there is no way to track the peaceful protesters, many of whom are traveling from a long ways off to join in.

I heard those attending had their temperature and IQ taken, and those with an IQ less than body temperature did not have to wear a mask.  A few participants however were offered Trump veils.  It appeared that red hats outnumbered masks.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 09, 2020, 19:21:26 PM
The irrational tribal nonsense is beyond stale.  Where was the dismay when universities held in person classes?  Where was the "you're killing our kids"?  Most were born with two ears, and two eyes.  For fuck's sake, use them.

For every action we take as humans, there is a price to be paid.  We're going down a road, completely oblivious of the consequences. 

The MSM hasn't learned a damn thing from 2016.  The MSM has gaslighted America, unstable folks have lost their minds, and shown their asses, and for this reason, Trump will most likely get four more years. America is getting what it wants, a spectacular civil war. No tragedy in the past 100 years will come close to the carnage we're flirting with, and no this isn't Trump, or Russia's fault.

Now for some wholesome news from Russia... Most news emanating from the US is one eyed gibberish.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/499800-covid-hoax-qanon-conspiracy/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on September 10, 2020, 11:40:29 AM
"...no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power."
P. J. O'Rourke

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
Issac Asimov
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on September 10, 2020, 20:14:43 PM
I was so happy to hear that our piece of shit president lied to us so as not to create a panic. So very considerate of him.  p;-

Now I'm waiting to hear the reasons for the other 20,000 lies for which he's been credited.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 10, 2020, 21:01:25 PM
Quote from: troutrus on September 10, 2020, 20:14:43 PMI was so happy to hear that our piece of shit president lied to us so as not to create a panic. So very considerate of him.  p;-

Now I'm waiting to hear the reasons for the other 20,000 lies for which he's been credited.
Quote from: troutrus on September 10, 2020, 20:14:43 PMI was so happy to hear that our piece of shit president lied to us so as not to create a panic. So very considerate of him.  p;-

Now I'm waiting to hear the reasons for the other 20,000 lies for which he's been credited.

So are you going to lie, and deny you've told little white lies to your spouse and kids to protect them?

Does opposing someone you regard as "evil" justify POS behavior on your part?  May we just exterminate those we disagree with, or we do not like the company of, and  just call them Fascist?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 11, 2020, 08:11:25 AM
Quote from: Onslow on September 10, 2020, 21:01:25 PMSo are you going to lie, and deny you've told little white lies to your spouse and kids to protect them?

Interesting question.  I don't recall fibbing to the wife and son in order to protect them.  Now, I've kept quiet on certain unpleasant, troubling, perhaps potentially dangerous, event(s) or news.  Mouth shut, brain engaged, then form a plan, a strategy, to combat the boogeyman. 
Ah, that's it!!!  A plan, a tactic to slow or halt the beast. 
 
I have no idea how many lives could've been, or could be, saved if the severity of the bug was truthfully conveyed to the public back in February.  If only one life, then honesty should have prevailed, with a plan – a freaking, clear, coherent strategy that all could rally behind.  Didn't happen. 

This was not a "little white" fib!  Apples and oranges

Wait a minute!  I have told the Mrs a little white lie, to protect her, to protect her mood.  Over the 34 years of bliss, I've told her multiple times she was not gaining weight.  Reciprocity has not occurred!  Damn it all, I need to discuss this with her this evening.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on September 11, 2020, 08:30:08 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 11, 2020, 08:11:25 AMWait a minute!  I have told the Mrs a little white lie, to protect her, to protect her mood.  Over the 34 years of bliss, I've told her multiple times she was not gaining weight.  Reciprocity has not occurred!  Damn it all, I need to discuss this with her this evening.

If you are physically able to afterwards, let us know how that goes. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 11, 2020, 09:07:14 AM
I do recall Trump being referred to as a racist for suggesting banning flights from China in January.  Biden and Pelosi were both negative towards Trump regarding this issue.  I'm no fan of Trump, but CNN's headlines regarding Trump being responsible for 100,000 deaths is nuts.

Should we also mention the Cuomo allowed flights into NYC from Italy for far to damned long.

Anyone with an IQ over 75 should have known the risks of Covid by mid Jan.  FYI, I know many Trump supporters who do not go into public often, and mask up.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 11, 2020, 09:42:19 AM
Quote from: Onslow on September 11, 2020, 09:07:14 AMAnyone with an IQ over 75 should have known the risks of Covid by mid Jan.  FYI, I know many Trump supporters who do not go into public often, and mask up.

I'll apply some oxymoronic logic to this.  So, there are some Trump supporters with an IQ above six bits?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on September 11, 2020, 10:37:59 AM
Quote from: Onslow on September 11, 2020, 09:07:14 AMAnyone with an IQ over 75 should have known the risks of Covid by mid Jan.  

I attended this fine institution.  I'd like to think the admission standards were higher in the 60s.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8719057/Ohio-student-tested-positive-COVID-19-throws-house-party-20-friends.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8719057/Ohio-student-tested-positive-COVID-19-throws-house-party-20-friends.html)

'That's why I'm at my house': Ohio student who tested positive for COVID-19 last week throws a house party for 20 friends - and tells cops he was quarantining by staying at home.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on September 11, 2020, 13:46:29 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 11, 2020, 09:42:19 AM
Quote from: Onslow on September 11, 2020, 09:07:14 AMAnyone with an IQ over 75 should have known the risks of Covid by mid Jan.  FYI, I know many Trump supporters who do not go into public often, and mask up.

I'll apply some oxymoronic logic to this.  So, there are some Trump supporters with an IQ above six bits?

"On average, a Trump voter would score in the 30th percentile, or have an average intelligence level of about 71, far below the 90 to 110 that is considered 'normal.' A non-Trump voter would score an average of approximately 96."

https://empirenews.net/study-finds-trump-voters-have-drastically-lower-iq-than-liberals/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on September 16, 2020, 05:28:16 AM
Just watch, it will all go away. 🤣🤣🤣

https://youtu.be/2V36ZA6QXLo
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 16, 2020, 12:35:26 PM
Quote from: troutrus on September 11, 2020, 13:46:29 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 11, 2020, 09:42:19 AM
Quote from: Onslow on September 11, 2020, 09:07:14 AMAnyone with an IQ over 75 should have known the risks of Covid by mid Jan.  FYI, I know many Trump supporters who do not go into public often, and mask up.

I'll apply some oxymoronic logic to this.  So, there are some Trump supporters with an IQ above six bits?

"On average, a Trump voter would score in the 30th percentile, or have an average intelligence level of about 71, far below the 90 to 110 that is considered 'normal.' A non-Trump voter would score an average of approximately 96."

https://empirenews.net/study-finds-trump-voters-have-drastically-lower-iq-than-liberals/


Perhaps then they should vote in person rather than dragging the election result delivery out by relying so heavily on mail in ballots. This dragging will cause mayhem.  Sometimes folks would be better served to think about country over self interest.

People endowed with fine brains are not immune to making poor choices. A highly motivated below average kid can run circles around a bright, entitled person, who is too lazy to think. My wife has seen this too often during the course of her teaching career. The problem has become more acute lately.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on September 17, 2020, 06:05:04 AM
Would love to see this scene recreated with a black perpetrator.

https://youtu.be/DY273aQC63s
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 17, 2020, 09:42:17 AM
If he was black he would have been tazed, handcuffed and perhaps shot...

but what an a-hole...
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on September 17, 2020, 11:33:07 AM
What a dick. People have lost their fucking minds.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Stone-Man on September 17, 2020, 11:46:50 AM
Asshole of the century
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 17, 2020, 16:51:13 PM
A bud of mine was dining in a restaurant once, and some no brain was smoking at the adjacent table. 

bud> Would you mind putting out your cigarette?

no brain> What does it matter to you?

bud>  Would it matter to you if farted right in your face?  Spo

no brain> Nervous laugh.  Puts cigarette out.

On a more serious note, 3 Elkin Elementary School staffers including the nurse have tested positive. Others are waiting for results. Plans were in the works for opening in person classes at the HS. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on September 17, 2020, 17:26:03 PM
Just saw Charlotte playing against App State a couple days ago. 🙁

https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2020/09/17/College-football-NC-vs-Charlotte-canceled-due-to-offensive-line-quarantine/1881600351936/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 18, 2020, 16:04:15 PM
I believe Elkin just experienced a super spreader event (funeral). A good many folk are sick, and several friends of my wife are ill, or are in quarantine.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on September 18, 2020, 17:54:19 PM
Quote from: Onslow on September 18, 2020, 16:04:15 PMI believe Elkin just experienced a super spreader event (funeral). A good many folk are sick, and several friends of my wife are ill, or are in quarantine.

Yikes!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 18, 2020, 18:30:47 PM
One concerning observation, one of the people affected is one who is very fastidious with her cleanliness, and always wears a mask.  She did have some contact with the public, but damn...
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 19, 2020, 10:13:57 AM
We've only had 6 cases here in Bath, with 1 death which surprised me, because I had not heard of the 1 loss.  Highland, the county north, also has recorded 6 cases.

I am uncertain if our low infection rate will hold – fingers crossed but waiting for the hammer to fall. 

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/coronavirus/covid-19-in-virginia-locality/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on September 19, 2020, 17:05:00 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 19, 2020, 10:13:57 AMWe've only had 6 cases here in Bath, with 1 death which surprised me, because I had not heard of the 1 loss.  Highland, the county north, also has recorded 6 cases.

I am uncertain if our low infection rate will hold – fingers crossed but waiting for the hammer to fall. 

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/coronavirus/covid-19-in-virginia-locality/


6 cases!!!!! I'd be alarmed. That's got to be 25% of the population in Bath County!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on September 20, 2020, 18:23:43 PM
One of our local facilities in Eden lost three more in the past week. 11 deaths in a 112 bed facility is serious business. A dear friend of mine is an RN there and I worry about her every day.
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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on September 21, 2020, 17:15:26 PM
Four percent of world population and twenty percent of world covid deaths, and comrade trumpsky gives himself an A+ for "managing" the virus.
And there's still a bunch of dumb asses that support him. Unbelievable.  :o
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 21, 2020, 17:28:30 PM
Quote from: troutrus on September 21, 2020, 17:15:26 PMFour percent of world population and twenty percent of world covid deaths, and comrade trumpsky gives himself an A+ for "managing" the virus.
And there's still a bunch of dumb asses that support him. Unbelievable.  :o

What is dumb?  Folks not managing their personal heath, and living like dumbasses. That isn't Trumps fault.  Are you going to blame the spike of Covid cases occurring in France and England on Trump?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 21, 2020, 19:51:21 PM
Quote from: Onslow on September 21, 2020, 17:28:30 PM
Quote from: troutrus on September 21, 2020, 17:15:26 PMFour percent of world population and twenty percent of world covid deaths, and comrade trumpsky gives himself an A+ for "managing" the virus.
And there's still a bunch of dumb asses that support him. Unbelievable.  :o

What is dumb?  Folks not managing their personal heath, and living like dumbasses. That isn't Trumps fault.  Are you going to blame the spike of Covid cases occurring in France and England on Trump?

What do France and England have to do with our administration's response (or lack of) to the pandemic?  The dumbasses are those Trump lickspittles that are steadfastly embedded in the cult and feel he deserves a passing grade.

I'm pretty sure this young lady managed her personal health as best she could and was not "living" like a dumbass.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/09/doctor-adeline-fagan-coronavirus/

Hell yes, I blame Trump and his twisted sect for our present circumstance.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on September 21, 2020, 20:26:04 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on September 21, 2020, 19:51:21 PM
Quote from: Onslow on September 21, 2020, 17:28:30 PM
Quote from: troutrus on September 21, 2020, 17:15:26 PMFour percent of world population and twenty percent of world covid deaths, and comrade trumpsky gives himself an A+ for "managing" the virus.
And there's still a bunch of dumb asses that support him. Unbelievable.  :o

What is dumb?  Folks not managing their personal heath, and living like dumbasses. That isn't Trumps fault.  Are you going to blame the spike of Covid cases occurring in France and England on Trump?

What do France and England have to do with our administration's response (or lack of) to the pandemic?  The dumbasses are those Trump lickspittles that are steadfastly embedded in the cult and feel he deserves a passing grade.

I'm pretty sure this young lady managed her personal health as best she could and was not "living" like a dumbass.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/09/doctor-adeline-fagan-coronavirus/

Hell yes, I blame Trump and his twisted sect for our present circumstance.

No she wasn't, and this situation is very disheartening.

People all over the world are protesting over restrictions. This is more about white entitlement than a Trump issue. If Trump were to have never existed, the public would still behave the same.

I wore respirators for years for 25 hours a week due to dust. No one told me to wear them.  I simply wanted to live.  It isn't rocket science.

Lets open our eyes to some other concerns that are less newsworthy.

1.  Dining out. 

A family friend has Covid 19.  He recently contracted the illness due to dining with a person who was positive. Said friend is a Democrat, but I really respect this guy.

Everyone knows that saliva glands are active while chewing, and tend to spurt.  What is the point in wearing a mask, only to let one's guard down be chewing and ejaculating with friends?

2. Diet

I was listening to NPR today, and a show guest stated that people with blood sugar and diabetes issues are 12 times likely to descend into a severe case of Covid, and die.

Type II diabetes is curable/suppressible through proper dieting.  I would argue that eating/diet ignorance in America is a greater hazard than Covid.  Covid only brings a quick end to many who otherwise be sucking down little debbies, soda pop, and pork skins. Folks who subsist off this crap will endure much health misery, and die young anyway.

It is not politically expedient to pressure people to eat better.  Besides, there is too much money to be made from sick people, and junk food.






Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on October 01, 2020, 08:46:35 AM
So many people I know have been infected with the virus in the last two weeks. Reports of people showing up for work infected are disheartening.

I learned last night a lovely young lady my wife and I know well has fallen ill.  She is only 20.  Another lady 2 homes down the street also has been infected.

Many focus on the physical health aspect, but there is a potential for an infection bringing on large financial burdens.  It seems the wreckless are those most financially vulnerable.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on October 01, 2020, 08:48:32 AM


I still don't have my restaurant/bar music gig. Can't sing with a mask, and 50% capacity doesn't give the restaurant 10 feet of clear space for my piano/guitar area.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on October 01, 2020, 11:10:41 AM
Quote from: troutrus on September 21, 2020, 17:15:26 PMFour percent of world population and twenty percent of world covid deaths, and comrade trumpsky gives himself an A+ for "managing" the virus.
And there's still a bunch of dumb asses that support him. Unbelievable.  :o

Could someone please explain to me what Trump, or anybody else, is supposed to do to "manage" this virus? Run around with a little net catching viruses out of the air? Or the ever-popular tell everybody to live in a hole under a rock for the next five years with a mask on? Seems like places with tighter restrictions seem to have just as many or more cases as those that don't. A man can't stop a pandemic, I don't care who he is. I don't expect Trump or Biden either one to "manage" this, because there is nothing they can do about it, any more than Woodrow Wilson could stop the Spanish Flu pandemic.

Managing my own risk of it is up to me, not some politician in Washington or Raleigh. People in my parents' and grandparents' generations walked around all the time in a world in which they stood a good chance of contracting tuberculosis, measles, influenza, typhoid, polio, smallpox and any number of things that killed people right and left. They didn't quit living and expect the government to make everything magically better, or blame the government because somebody caught a disease. They just went on with their day-to-day lives, like folks have been doing as long as there have been folks. To me, one of the worst things about this disease is how it has been so damn politicized, when politics has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on October 01, 2020, 13:44:37 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on October 01, 2020, 11:10:41 AMCould someone please explain to me what Trump, or anybody else, is supposed to do to "manage" this virus?

Yes, tell the nation the fucking truth! 

I do not blame Trump for the pandemic, but I do fault him and his administration for the untruths, and the lack of direction, lack of preparedness.  I also blame him for the dumbassed comments, like injecting disinfectants, not trusting science, pandemic will be over like a miracle, etc.

Lead by example with honesty.  All he has done is stabilize his cult membership.

Could honesty back in late January or early February saved lives?  Could have the pandemic playbook left by the previous administration saved lives?  We will never know.

If you think you've heard nothing but the truth from this administration over the last 3.5 plus years, then you have my condolences.
 
We've come a long way since the Spanish flu, or I think we have.  Maybe I am wrong, perhaps Darwin was full of shit and we have advanced little from our ape-like ancestors.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on October 01, 2020, 15:46:39 PM
Yaller, this is your guy.

"The biggest surprise was that the president of the United States was the single largest driver of misinformation around Covid."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-misinformation.html
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on October 01, 2020, 16:52:23 PM
What I find most bizarre about the governance side of this Covid nightmare is the odd amicable relationship between Trump and Gavin Newsom. Is this on anyone else's radar?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on October 01, 2020, 17:14:23 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on October 01, 2020, 13:44:37 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on October 01, 2020, 11:10:41 AMCould someone please explain to me what Trump, or anybody else, is supposed to do to "manage" this virus?

Yes, tell the nation the fucking truth! 

I do not blame Trump for the pandemic, but I do fault him and his administration for the untruths, and the lack of direction, lack of preparedness.  I also blame him for the dumbassed comments, like injecting disinfectants, not trusting science, pandemic will be over like a miracle, etc.

Lead by example with honesty.  All he has done is stabilize his cult membership.

Could honesty back in late January or early February saved lives?  Could have the pandemic playbook left by the previous administration saved lives?  We will never know.

If you think you've heard nothing but the truth from this administration over the last 3.5 plus years, then you have my condolences.
 
We've come a long way since the Spanish flu, or I think we have.  Maybe I am wrong, perhaps Darwin was full of shit and we have advanced little from our ape-like ancestors.
I have never heard truth from any politician, nor do I expect it. They're all crooked as fishhooks. You think president Harris will tell you the truth? If so, you're delusional.

I think if the Democrats hadn't had him embroiled in a witch hunt impeachment when this started, it would have helped. And if they hadn't fought his "xenophobic" efforts to shut down travel from foreign countries at that time. And if the MSM weren't fighting him tooth and nail, and everybody trying to gain political leverage from a pandemic that's killing people.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on October 02, 2020, 07:36:00 AM
Wonder what will be discussed to death in this thread today?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on October 02, 2020, 08:31:57 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on October 01, 2020, 17:14:23 PMI have never heard truth from any politician, nor do I expect it. They're all crooked as fishhooks. You think president Harris will tell you the truth? If so, you're delusional.

I think if the Democrats hadn't had him embroiled in a witch hunt impeachment when this started, it would have helped. And if they hadn't fought his "xenophobic" efforts to shut down travel from foreign countries at that time. And if the MSM weren't fighting him tooth and nail, and everybody trying to gain political leverage from a pandemic that's killing people.

When I hear someone say all politicians lie, I think they are in some way deflecting from the present administration's plethora of "alternative facts" and attempting to justify all the bullshit we've heard over the last few years.  Hell, I've even said the same to placate the supporters of this sham and deceit, in hopes of getting them to disclose more ignorance (I still take notes and am one Machiavellian son-of-a-bitch).  But I don't believe all those elected lie, and even if I did, I don't have to accept it.  I am at my wits' end when it comes to dishonesty. 

And I doubt even if the democrats, MSM, and any other entity that you feel has mistreated our leader had kissed his ass from day one it would have miraculously compelled the man to tell the truth.  I question if Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth would even work on such a disturbed, unbalanced individual, but I am sure he would have attempted to grab her pussy. 

No apologies for being a contrarian and/or a dick in this situation.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on October 02, 2020, 08:44:24 AM
Dr Birx now has her perfect guinea pig.

https://youtu.be/d57zJr82dhQ
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on October 07, 2020, 08:19:39 AM
https://youtu.be/4tZVnbDq9B4
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on October 10, 2020, 09:05:53 AM
Can you contract 'bugs' from plasma?   STDs, ignorance, pathological lying, etc.?
 
The microbes hijacked from Stormy really would not bother me.  Remember, she sat on my lap back in the 90s when she was Stormy Waters; she was spotless back then.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/president-trump-says-he-would-love-to-donate-his-plasma-to-covid-19-patients/ar-BB19T9U8?ocid=msedgntp
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 10, 2020, 10:06:30 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/for-those-that-have-lost-family-members-to-covid-19-trump-s-words-are-like-slap-in-the-face/vi-BB19TuTR?ocid=msedgntp


Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Beetle on October 10, 2020, 11:17:40 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on October 10, 2020, 09:05:53 AMCan you contract 'bugs' from plasma?   STDs, ignorance, pathological lying, etc.?



Too bad FatAl isn't here to answer that question.   
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on October 10, 2020, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on October 10, 2020, 09:05:53 AMCan you contract 'bugs' from plasma?   STDs, ignorance, pathological lying, etc.?
 
The microbes hijacked from Stormy really would not bother me.  Remember, she sat on my lap back in the 90s when she was Stormy Waters; she was spotless back then.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/president-trump-says-he-would-love-to-donate-his-plasma-to-covid-19-patients/ar-BB19T9U8?ocid=msedgntp


The ignorance and lying has evidently been passed down to some of his kids.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on October 23, 2020, 08:03:33 AM
223,059 deaths in six months and the deplorables are saying it's no worse than the flu.  b';  IGNORANCE
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on October 23, 2020, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: troutrus on October 23, 2020, 08:03:33 AM223,059 deaths in six months and the deplorables are saying it's no worse than the flu.  b';  IGNORANCE

I would argue it isn't ignorance. People want to do as they damn please, and social norms and order be damned. Both right and leftwingers are afflicted with these tendencies, and begit dismay, depression, and dispair for rational centrist folk. Seeds are being sown, and the harvest will be dreadful.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on October 23, 2020, 18:54:56 PM
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the number tops one million by Feb.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on October 23, 2020, 19:41:26 PM
I'll be a bit of a semi-hermit the next 4 months. Shits about to get real.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on October 23, 2020, 21:31:13 PM
I have had a really bad cold for a day or two. Waiting on test results.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on October 24, 2020, 16:33:21 PM
https://trumpcovidplan.com/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on October 24, 2020, 16:50:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on October 24, 2020, 16:33:21 PMhttps://trumpcovidplan.com/
now that's funny as hell
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on October 26, 2020, 04:47:59 AM
Virus cases are spiking in many parts of the world. It's almost as though the scientists/health experts know what they're talking about. 🤔.  AMAZING !!!!!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on November 09, 2020, 08:44:35 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/denmark-overwhelmed-by-millions-of-mink-it-plans-to-kill-to-prevent-a-new-strain-of-coronavirus-is-turning-to-incinerators-and-chemical-drenched-mass-graves/ar-BB1aPSOt?ocid=msedgntp

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on November 09, 2020, 08:50:06 AM
that mink story is pretty crazy nuts... they have bred the best minks for 100's of years... devastating

send a bill to china....
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Sedition and Pockets on November 09, 2020, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: troutrus on October 26, 2020, 04:47:59 AMVirus cases are spiking in many parts of the world. It's almost as though the scientists/health experts know what they're talking about. 🤔.  AMAZING !!!!!

It's almost like the capitalist system is incapable of taking the steps that would make this less of a fucking disaster.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on November 09, 2020, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: Sedition and Pockets on November 09, 2020, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: troutrus on October 26, 2020, 04:47:59 AMVirus cases are spiking in many parts of the world. It's almost as though the scientists/health experts know what they're talking about. 🤔.  AMAZING !!!!!

It's almost like the capitalist system is incapable of taking the steps that would make this less of a fucking disaster.

I don't blame the system, I blame collective stupidity on the part of our nation's inhabitants. We don't live in a post truth world, but rather a post reality world saturated with unearthly expectations of a painless existence, meds, drugs, and video games, junk food, and ingorance. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: rbphoto on November 09, 2020, 13:27:00 PM
Quote from: Onslow on November 09, 2020, 12:57:46 PMWe don't live in a post truth world, but rather a post reality world saturated with unearthly expectations of a painless existence, meds, drugs, and video games, junk food, and ignorance.

We live in a relativistic truth world, which is post-truth.  Truth is now defined as whatever someone wants it to be instead of  factual information.  It is by default a sentinel shift in the values of the culture.  It happens across the spectrum and is not limited to conservative, liberal, progressive, or any other label you can identify.

I won't argue about the "unearthly expectations" you mention.  I think you are spot on.  I will say that's not new, it just looks different than it ever has in our history.

Information gets bombarded at us when it happens, whether is has been confirmed or simply spun by someone's particular flavor-of-the-minute thought process. That drives peoples' fear, anxiety, uncertainty, and reactions.  People become protectionistic rather than investigative.  They let everyone else think for them instead of thinking for themselves.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Sedition and Pockets on November 09, 2020, 15:51:55 PM
Quote from: Onslow on November 09, 2020, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: Sedition and Pockets on November 09, 2020, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: troutrus on October 26, 2020, 04:47:59 AMVirus cases are spiking in many parts of the world. It's almost as though the scientists/health experts know what they're talking about. 🤔.  AMAZING !!!!!

It's almost like the capitalist system is incapable of taking the steps that would make this less of a fucking disaster.

I don't blame the system, I blame collective stupidity on the part of our nation's inhabitants. We don't live in a post truth world, but rather a post reality world saturated with unearthly expectations of a painless existence, meds, drugs, and video games, junk food, and ingorance. 


"Collective stupidity" is a byproduct of the system, and not just of the collateral damage sort.  It is essential to the operation of that system, and billions upon billions of dollars of resources are poured into fostering it.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on November 11, 2020, 19:41:05 PM
It is going to be a great holiday season.  I plan to have 15 family members fly from all over this Thanksgiving to join me so may set the stage for a fabulous Christmas. I expect 3 family members to get Covid, maybe a couple asshole relatives will die.  Then we can sit in front of the TV and be in awe of how many are sick and dying. College footballs sucks anyway. We may have some 'sick leave' between the holidays to make life easier. We might not get bills because of disruptions at various enterprises that supply our homes with electricity, and gas. What the hell, it is warm.  Who needs heat!? Welp, the veggies are rotten in the fridge, and the canned vegetables are cleaned out at the local supermarket.  Lets celebrate the death of health food by eating 4 year old Little Debbies! 

Christmas is here!  There is no work, and no trash being collected, city water is in trouble due to the lack of chemicals available to treat it, and due to the lack of HR, Duke power haplessly hired a couple Iranian intelligence agents to fill vacancies due to people critical employees being out sick and dying. Feral dogs, coyotes, rats, and buzzards, are feeding on the bounty consisting of rotting human corpses. Raw sewage is being pumped into the rivers because, well, shit happens.  My employer has been hit by a ransom attack, and this time they weren't prepared.  Holy shit, the ubiquitous bank cybersecurity team fell ill, and experienced a complete breach, and some dude from Romania has stolen my identity.

Happy New Year! China is sending its military over for humanitarian assistance, and they are such kind people. 2021 will be better than 2020, I promise.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on November 11, 2020, 21:07:37 PM
Positive thinking ! LOL.
Small ball here. Local fam we have constant contact with, only. Only getting a half bushel of oysters.
Be smart, folks.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on November 12, 2020, 08:46:49 AM
Quote from: Onslow on November 11, 2020, 19:41:05 PMIt is going to be a great holiday season. .............

Christmas is here!  ............

Virus or no virus.  Pandemic or no pandemic.  Does not matter.  Bombarded with mendacious bullshit --- fake icicles, fake stars, gluttony of lights causing epilepsy seizures, phony gift delivering, bogus saints and prophets, etc.  The holidays suck and will suck again if/when we beat this bug. 

Having discovered very early, age 5 or 6, there was no Santa.  That Santa getting dressed in the bathroom stall of the Covington VA department store fooled no one, particularly since his cohort was entertaining the gullible in the lobby.  However, I was temporarily remorseful for unveiling my discovery to all my classmates on the school bus the following Monday; I never enjoyed the sobbing of children even when I was a child.  Vague recollection, but I likely told them they were nuts for believing.  I am certain I was at least a blossoming ass back then.  The pensive skeptic had emerged. 

Now how, and when, can I enlighten my grandson on all the holiday flummery and mummery?

Peace.

http://youtu.be/1tvCd3i0OP8
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on November 12, 2020, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on November 11, 2020, 21:07:37 PMPositive thinking ! LOL.
Small ball here. Local fam we have constant contact with, only. Only getting a half bushel of oysters.
Be smart, folks.

Oysters? Am I local fam? You can throw the oysters 6 ft to me and I can wear a mask.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on November 30, 2020, 18:46:01 PM
Next door neighbor is in the hospital with Covid.  The wife is not showing symptoms yet.

Hope everyone is doing well, and staying safe.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on November 30, 2020, 19:11:42 PM
One of my wife's colleagues spent Thanksgiving with her Dad who is hot with Covid, then came to work today, and works with the PUBLIC! 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on December 02, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Seems the deplorables were wrong suggesting that Covid would disappear after the election.
Then again many of those folks are still awaiting the election results.  V:;
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 02, 2020, 08:39:49 AM
From a friend on Face book


So, let me tell you about Covid...

I have gone from regularly mountain biking, trail running, and canyoneering at altitude for trout, to struggling to even get off the couch. It's frightening to check your heart rate in doing that to see it over 100bpm for such a minuscule endeavor.

The coughing is so deep it feels like cracking a rib is just seconds away and it leaves your entire body sore, achy, and exhausted. And worse, trying to catch a breath afterward sometimes results in nothing more than a small wheeze of air going in where you wonder if you'll get another breath.

Previous to Covid, I would have proclaimed the "red wine hang over" as the mother of all headaches. Not anymore. Imagine a headache so bad you can't open your eyes. And, when you do, you see stars. They don't last long (thankfully), but the mental fog that lingers makes you want to curl up in a ball.

The stomach cramping and diarrhea is horrible and comes without warning. Fortunately, I have almost no appetite, having lost sense of smell and taste. I tried a pickle and had zero sensation of flavor. More frightening, there was a small brushfire across the river that was blowing smoke in the house. I had no idea until Tami quickly shut the windows. On the bright side, I can't smell the farting dachshunds, so there's that...

The hardest is the fatigue. It's inescapable and complete. I've found myself napping a couple a times a day and still getting a solid 10-11 hours of sleep at night, yet not feeling rested.

So how's it different that a seasonal cold or flu? For one, any symptom I've had has been probably the worst I've ever experienced. I've been hospitalized from pneumonia before, and this has been much, much worse.

Also, I've never had so many symptoms combine at once. If I didn't know better, I'd swear it was a coordinated attack. And the symptoms play with your mind. In one moment, you think "hmmm, I'm starting to feel a bit better," only to have everything return with a vengeance that makes you fearful of hoping.

Are there good things, though? Absolutely. Within my circle, I've had amazing support from dear friends who have texted me daily to make sure I'm doing what I need to do. My amazing wife has walked the tightrope of caring for me and keeping the home fires burning, but also allowing me enough room to suffer in my own time and way. She's amazing.

So, I put this out there to let you know this shit's real. I never had any doubt, and took precautions, but this thing is Russian Roulette with the same potential.

- Curtis Bayer
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on December 02, 2020, 09:48:12 AM
Common comment from deniers. How is this any different from the flu we have every year?
Flu deaths average <200 per year in NC. Covid deaths in NC >5,000 since March. 🧐
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on December 02, 2020, 20:15:51 PM
Quote from: troutrus on December 02, 2020, 07:48:25 AMSeems the deplorables were wrong suggesting that Covid would disappear after the election.
Then again many of those folks are still awaiting the election results.  V:;

There are many who talk a good talk, and behave like sanctimonious shits, but carry on much like the 'deplorables'.  It isn't what you believe that matters, it is what one does!!!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 02, 2020, 21:31:36 PM
Quote from: Onslow on December 02, 2020, 20:15:51 PMIt isn't what you believe that matters, it is what one does!!!

Not really.  It is what you say you believe that doesn't matter.  What you truly believe most always results in what you actually do.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 16, 2020, 20:55:08 PM
This is unbelievable.  Merge this with all that trusted that BS Great Barrington Declaration and you have a flock of sociopathic meshuggeners, not herd immunity.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/e2-80-98we-want-them-infected-e2-80-99-trump-appointee-demanded-e2-80-98herd-immunity-e2-80-99-strategy-emails-reveal/ar-BB1bZ5h3?ocid=uxbndlbing
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 18, 2020, 00:35:36 AM
From another Winston Salem friend on FB

Y'all see that faint positive?  Yes, I had Covid. Not fun one bit. I had low o2 sats, insane total body pain to the point I cried myself to sleep, SOB, sinus congestion and nonstop sneezingI. I feel robbed. I feel this should be bright red.
6 weeks out and I'm still feeling the effects. Brain fog, headaches and extreme fatigue. Oh and new allergies, lovely. I was pretty allergic to everything before. I am so angry. Everyday I encounter people who think is a joke. I follow all the rules and feel cheated. I just don't get it?! How hard is it to be responsible? Apparently, it is impossible. People carry on, no intention to social distance. This week alone 4 exposures. I'm not front line so no vaccine for me anytime soon. Today, my Covid survey asked if I wore a shield, N95 and gloves! Lol? What a fantasy. I get ONE, ONE surgical mask per week. Despite the countless exposures. 11 before my Covid positive test. 17 since. Someone coughed in my face without a mask, I did have surgical mask on. That folks was it. 5 days later positive. Loss of smell and taste day five . Day 2 all the sinus symptoms. I am a Nurse Practitioner because I feel it's important to improve the lives of others. I have the means and the ability. I'm loosing faith. I am grateful no one in my family tested positive for Covid. Today, I modified a saying Andy Lester Niles said during his morning announcements. Hi! I'm so glad to see you today.  I just want you to know covid is everywhere even here. Make it a great day, the choice is yours to wear a mask or not.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on December 18, 2020, 08:36:27 AM
My daughter in Arizona and her family have been downplaying the virus since the beginning. Having known a number of people who tested positive with little to no symptoms, she viewed it as many young folks do as not a big deal.
She tested positive a couple weeks ago and has since experienced many of the associated symptoms that we hear about. She appears to be on the mend. 🙏🏼🤞
Hopefully her family and friends will heed her experience as a warning moving forward.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 18, 2020, 08:48:01 AM

Sorry about your daughter , hope she recovers quickly and fully

It's a crap shoot - ands strange in it's ratings of symptoms and outcomes

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on December 27, 2020, 08:39:30 AM
Saw a headline this morning that Fauci Fears Darker Days Lie Ahead. 😳

My daughter says she's recovered and is back at work. But, my youngest(17) grandson had to cancel a surgery due to testing positive this past week. Only outward symptoms for him thus far has been the loss of taste/smell. Here's hoping there are no underlying issues. 🤞🙏🏿
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 27, 2020, 11:19:38 AM


Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 30, 2020, 10:00:25 AM
The Washington Post visualizes 330,000 Covid deaths....

Take a moment or a few minutes and scroll through this graphic display
(it take a while to load)



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/30/this-is-what-more-than-330000-coronavirus-deaths-look-like/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Zf04e5PkHQaccS6cfA6OIwjSNTs-4nb8IWFHYpcHynYUfHrnvDAa8yTE
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on December 30, 2020, 16:40:34 PM
Damn!  Mary Ann died from this shit!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/dawn-wells-dies-of-covid-19-mary-ann-on-gilligan-s-island-was-82/ar-BB1cm21J?ocid=msedgntp
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on December 30, 2020, 19:37:01 PM
Covid got one of mom's cousins' husbands, Jay 100 and was still driving

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on December 31, 2020, 12:55:57 PM
A couple people per minute are dying in our country, and millions of deplorables along with their leaders call it a hoax.

New Zealand is looking better every day, but I heard they are restricting entry from residents of shithole countries.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on December 31, 2020, 18:25:51 PM
Quote from: troutrus on December 31, 2020, 12:55:57 PMA couple people per minute are dying in our country, and millions of deplorables along with their leaders call it a hoax.

New Zealand is looking better every day, but I heard they are restricting entry from residents of shithole countries.

New Zealand has mice plagues, and earthquakes.

Election is over, and it's time to move on. 

Entitled humans of all political stripes tend to dig their own pits.

https://www.rt.com/news/508446-brussels-orgy-organizer-mep/

QuoteThe self-professed organizer of the notorious lockdown-breaching 'gang-bang' in Brussels claims all participants were extremely careful, and that he was blissfully unaware that an MEP was in attendance.
Speaking to local media, David Manzheley claims that he regularly hosts orgies in his flat and that the event made for a welcome release from the dreariness of the coronavirus lockdown.

He also vehemently denies prior knowledge that 59-year-old Hungarian MEP Jozsef Szajer, a member of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's Fidesz party, who resigned in disgrace in the wake of the Brussels gay orgy scandal, was in attendance.

Oh, and this ho

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bella-thorne-hosting-new-years-eve-bash-at-mexico-hotel-where-female-worker-was-recently-murdered
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 01, 2021, 11:12:11 AM
From another FB friend from HS

>>> Just spoke with our daughter in Colorado.  Her fiance was admitted to the hospital with pneumonia and Covid.  There were with us for 5 days and just left NC for CO this past Wednesday.  Asking for any prayers you may have for my future son-in-law.  Former Marine, 4 tours in Afghanistan, blown up 6 times, and will complete his dissertation this summer for his PhD.   A remarkable young man even if he had not done any of that.  Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on January 01, 2021, 12:08:23 PM
What the heck is wit dis?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-frontline-workers-refuse-covid-201555764.html
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 01, 2021, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 01, 2021, 12:08:23 PMWhat the heck is wit dis?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-frontline-workers-refuse-covid-201555764.html

not the ones I know....
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 01, 2021, 12:47:19 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on January 01, 2021, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 01, 2021, 12:08:23 PMWhat the heck is wit dis?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-frontline-workers-refuse-covid-201555764.html

not the ones I know....

Nor the ones I know. Everyone I know in healthcare wants it. My eldest daughter got her first shot before Christmas. My wife is chomping at the bit to get hers.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on January 03, 2021, 21:04:39 PM
My wife's cousin Charles Reid 
and his wife, both died this past week due to Covid. They lived in W-S.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 03, 2021, 21:31:35 PM
Sorry Ken. Hug your wife for me.
It's gonna get personal to a lot of us.
Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 03, 2021, 21:47:00 PM
Sorry for your loss Ken, thoughts and prayers do you and your family
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 03, 2021, 22:25:38 PM
Brother-in-law and family are in NJ.
1:500 are dead from Covid in NJ. Not infected. Dead. Dead. Dead.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on January 04, 2021, 19:51:40 PM
All this death and sadness and then we have these ignorant selfish deplorables roaming free.

https://www.aol.com/see-anti-maskers-l-over-224924585.html
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutboy_II on January 05, 2021, 13:56:31 PM
Right now, I would welcome daily updates by the Federal Gov on status of vaccine getting into folks arms and general science about the pandemic.  Ignoring it as the current administration has done for months, does not help.  Perhaps new administration will see fit to get us back in the loop?

TB
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on January 05, 2021, 16:17:31 PM
Great. My 90 year old MIL and my Brother in Law both tested positive today -- they live in our town, we saw them at Christmas. We will both get tests in 2 days if no symptoms before then, maybe tomorrow. Damn it, I've been sooo careful for 11 months. Let my wife talk me into going to her mom's house for Christmas. Fuck me.  b';
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 05, 2021, 17:20:42 PM
sorry to hear that, Phil, take care....  n!n Covid!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 07, 2021, 13:21:19 PM
10,398 new Covid cases in NC reported today

Hospitals are overwhelmed

https://myfox8.com/news/pandemic-causing-long-wait-times-at-triad-emergency-rooms/?anvplayer-autoplay=0


Back to my bunker now
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 08, 2021, 14:48:10 PM
Took mom to the county health dept for her first of two Covid vaccine shots

Total time about 45 minutes in the facility

20 minutes wait in line
10 minutes for the shot
15 minutes after shot

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 08, 2021, 17:04:07 PM
I guess you'll be next in line, WB?

Eldest daughter who wrangles the cardiac fellows at the hospital, just got her second one yesterday.
Young cousin in Richmond who is a delivery room nurse just got hers, too.
My RN wife signed up to administer shots starts doing that next week. (As a PT second job. Because shes a better person than me.) She'll get her first when she starts.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on January 08, 2021, 17:20:02 PM
In my county in NC, they are giving vaccines to health care workers, frontline, and people over 75. I'll get mine when it becomes available to me.
 
BTW -- didn't get Covid even though all 8 members of my wife's family did. I refused to attend (or let my wife attend) the two after-Christmas and New Year's Eve parties where the infection occurred. They're all sick as dogs. Now I get to run around doing their grocery, etc. errands and leaving stuff on their front porches.
The wife's family poo-poo'ed my steadfast refusals to attend their frequent get-togethers until now.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 08, 2021, 17:21:48 PM
You're a smart man, Phil. I hope your wife's family recovers completely.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 09, 2021, 11:43:47 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJzuJ-jnbSp/?igshid=1p5z7blxh7ybt
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Stone-Man on January 09, 2021, 16:58:04 PM
Good move Phil.  I can name you 15-20 people who have gone to small get togethers or the beach ,etc,etc who have come down with C-19 One woman went to the beach and came home and gave it to 3 brothers, 4 inlaws and several nieces, nephews.
 A friend of mine died Tuesday of Covid.  He had preexisting conditions that most likely did him in, but it still is painful to loose someone who you think highly of.

  JT
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on January 12, 2021, 18:21:57 PM
States ranked by percentage of COVID-19 vaccines administered: Jan. 12

Disappointing thus far. If you're looking for North Carolina it's quicker to drop  to the bottom and come back up. 🙁

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 13, 2021, 13:15:36 PM
I learned of eligibility for the vaccine since I deliver meals to local seniors and I am a member of the local volunteer fire and rescue.

At 10:30am this morning I received the first dose of Moderna.  No side effects so far.  Not even a sore arm.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutboy_II on January 13, 2021, 15:43:10 PM
Trout_girl and I got our first shot today. SC dropped age to 70 and we both turn 71 this week.

It was fascinating to see the look in folks eyes at the hospital - most our age or older. Hope, for the first time in quite a while. At the risk of opening wounds for some on this site, a change to a kinder, saner, and gentler federal administration, also adds to the "hope" some of us feel who have been around for a while. 

So, as a qualified old fart, I recommend that we all celebrate the human victories a vaccine allows, swallow hard and gut out the consolidated idiocy that we are being subjected to by Washington (both sides share the blame), and get back to living our own lives. Fuck cable tv, fuck pompous politicians, and fuck neighbors who ignore common humanity to cling to the favorite party bull shit.  Come on people!  Breathe and go fish! Stop the insanity.

Now back to your regularly scheduled show... Peace.

TB

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on January 14, 2021, 22:43:20 PM
Got my first shot on Tuesday. No ill effect (so far). Second one in 3 weeks.

 Saw one of my doctors today who has had both shots. He said the 2nd one will give you a headache and slight fever - at least it did him. Take some aspirin and it will be fine in a couple days. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutboy_II on January 16, 2021, 14:02:21 PM
Quote from: troutboy_II on January 13, 2021, 15:43:10 PMTrout_girl and I got our first shot today. SC dropped age to 70 and we both turn 71 this week.




Update on our vaccine shots -  other than some soreness at injection point the first day, no issues at all..  Better than some flu shots I have had. So, although I am sure that there are some who will have issues, hopefully our experience will give you some comfort in what you may be in for. 

You pays your money and takes your chances, but I'm glad this is available. Please strongly consider taking this.

TB

PS - Get shot two on Groundhog Day. Will report after.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 16, 2021, 15:15:49 PM
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 16, 2021, 17:19:14 PM
got a text from novant to schedule an appt... went online and scheduled first available date; April 19  :o
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on January 16, 2021, 19:04:47 PM
Guy I went to high school with just lost his father. Wife has an uncle been in ICU for about a week  and half. He probably won't make it. Can't get vaccine fast enough. My parents get first shot next week. Stay well.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on January 16, 2021, 19:27:24 PM
Damn Keith, what a bummer.

Teachers won't be eligible for vaccines until the 65 year old group is poked.

There have been cases of students going to school infected, then bragging about it on social media. Don't ask how I was made aware of this.

Some parents are arranging private prom nights because schools won't host them.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on January 16, 2021, 19:29:57 PM
I was notified Friday that we could sign up with Rockingham county Healh Dept. When I started typing my wife's name, address, and phone number there were 50 some spots available for Jan 21st. When I hit the enter key ~30 seconds later got a message that said all spots were full. No further dates have been scheduled.  b';
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 16, 2021, 20:31:17 PM
Meanwhile...

Israel says it is on track to vaccinate everyone over 16 by the end of March. To understand how it is vaccinating so quickly, we visited clinics that are giving shots to young and middle-aged citizens. https://t.co/bw7qLU3ZLa (http://Israel says it is on track to vaccinate everyone over 16 by the end of March. To understand how it is vaccinating so quickly, we visited clinics that are giving shots to young and middle-aged citizens. https://t.co/bw7qLU3ZLa)
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on January 18, 2021, 14:29:50 PM
My mother in law just had to be put on a ventilator after a week in ICU. I doubt seriously that she will survive. 3 weeks ago she was a strong willed independent 90 year old warhorse going strong. Covid is some bad shit.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 18, 2021, 18:52:10 PM
Damn. So sorry.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on January 18, 2021, 19:41:02 PM
Damn Phil, I'm sorry to hear your family is being beset by such hardship during these challenging times.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on January 18, 2021, 19:42:28 PM
Very sad. 🙁
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on January 18, 2021, 20:28:30 PM
Sorry to hear that Phil.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on January 18, 2021, 20:34:17 PM
Don't give up yet Phil. My wife was on a ventilator for 9 days about 10 years ago. In ICU for about 15 days. Trying times which some of you may remember. Total of 28 days before coming home. (Had to do rehap to learn to do most things we take for granted again)

Prayers for her recovery.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 18, 2021, 20:38:23 PM
Thoughts and prayers, Phil

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on January 18, 2021, 20:43:42 PM
Sorry to hear this.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: itieuglyflies on January 18, 2021, 20:51:34 PM
Prayers that this tough 90 yr. old will recover.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 23, 2021, 10:53:29 AM
County Health Dept opened up more appts today.
I snagged one on Jan 29, mo betta than da Novant appt of April 19.

:drum  d:b  :Dance  V:;

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 23, 2021, 19:52:45 PM
Community vaccine day at civic center. Got a heads up from eldest daughter who was working it that they were taking walkins. Just got my first shot. Pfizer.   :Dance
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on January 23, 2021, 21:36:28 PM
Lotta people pissed over here in Rockingham County. And the politicos are pointing fingers as usual.

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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 23, 2021, 21:54:37 PM
Quote from: troutrus on January 23, 2021, 21:36:28 PMLotta people pissed over here in Rockingham County. And the politicos are pointing fingers as usual.

You cannot see attachments on this board.

That stinks.
The mismanagement is real. I can't believe I got mine considering how f'd up VA is.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on January 24, 2021, 07:41:08 AM
My MIL(88) had registered for an appointment at the first available opportunity.  Got a call late last week from the HD, and missed the call. There ain't no calling the HD back, at least in my county.  Gotta re register, and get back in line.  You snooze, you loose.  That being said, those under 65 who are not front line medics need to find some patience.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on January 24, 2021, 16:04:53 PM
Wife and I just returned from Winston Salem where we got our first shot this morning at the Fairgrounds. They also gave us appointments for 2/15 for second round shots. Plus I found some waders at GOPC and had a great brisket samich at Little Richards. 🙂

I'm taking my SIL to High Point Tuesday afternoon for her first shot. I also had an appointment for there that I cancelled.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutboy_II on January 25, 2021, 09:51:47 AM
Quote from: troutrus on January 24, 2021, 16:04:53 PMand had a great brisket samich at Little Richards. 🙂


Good news on vac.  Everybody under the gun on this so I guess it will work out eventually...  Hope vac is available for our second shot in a few weeks.

Man I miss Little Richards!  Probably second to Lexington BBQ as my favorite and was only a few blocks away from where we lived in WS.  Just can't get anything like it here in SC, although Mike and Jeff's here in Greenville is pretty good.

Ah, memories.....

TB
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 26, 2021, 08:52:17 AM
Charter a flight to the Yukon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wealthy-couple-chartered-a-plane-to-the-yukon-took-vaccines-meant-for-indigenous-elders-authorities-said/ar-BB1d6rHW?ocid=msedgntp
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 26, 2021, 09:33:23 AM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 26, 2021, 08:52:17 AMCharter a flight to the Yukon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wealthy-couple-chartered-a-plane-to-the-yukon-took-vaccines-meant-for-indigenous-elders-authorities-said/ar-BB1d6rHW?ocid=msedgntp

I might have given Ekaterina Baker and inoculation if you know what I mean...
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on January 26, 2021, 16:33:20 PM
Phil's gettin' the Phizer Phriday at 9:15 a.m.  V:;
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on January 26, 2021, 20:05:29 PM
Took my SIL to Oak Hollow Mall today for her first shot. They used Moderna with second shot scheduled four weeks out.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on January 27, 2021, 11:48:33 AM
We're in Mars Hill, NC.  When they dropped  eligibility to 65 I signed up online for scheduling 1/19.  Madison County Health Dept just called.  Scheduled wife and I for Feb 1 appointment.  Mar 1 for booster, so I expect it is Moderna.

'c;
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 29, 2021, 18:45:04 PM
Took mom to get her second Pfizer shot today at 2:10 I was scheduled for 5:50, i had to go back at the appointed time got the Moderna shot!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 30, 2021, 02:47:55 AM
I'm not bitchin but this mofo is killing my arm —  p;-

2:47 and can't sleep
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on January 30, 2021, 06:47:49 AM
Yeah, Woolly. Got mine yesterday at 9 a.m. Had a headache and felt kinda crappy by evening and my arm is sore as shit.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on January 30, 2021, 08:11:41 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on January 30, 2021, 02:47:55 AMI'm not bitchin but this mofo is killing my arm —  p;-

2:47 and can't sleep
And now?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 30, 2021, 08:26:35 AM
Quote from: jwgnc on January 30, 2021, 08:11:41 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on January 30, 2021, 02:47:55 AMI'm not bitchin but this mofo is killing my arm —  p;-

2:47 and can't sleep
And now?

  Tylenol took the edge off and I finally got some quality shut eye  - still Fairly sore but much better this morning
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on January 30, 2021, 08:30:43 AM
Weenie.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on January 30, 2021, 09:30:02 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on January 30, 2021, 08:30:43 AMWeenie.

Follow the research.  Multiple studies of men that consume swanky, ostentatious brews and their lack of tolerance for pain.  I think they call it pussification.

"In several studies conducted in Liechtenstein, researchers have discovered a lower pain threshold (the point at which pain begins to be felt) in males that regularly drink grandiose alcoholic beverages (ie. micro brews).  Researchers have wittily coined this condition in men as "pompous pussification"."

https://average2alpha.com/5-ways-that-men-are-becoming-little-bitches/
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 30, 2021, 10:52:42 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on January 30, 2021, 08:30:43 AMWeenie.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: itieuglyflies on January 30, 2021, 20:01:27 PM
I am old as shit and only wish my arm was sore from getting the vaccine.....but I live in Richmond .....enough said.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 30, 2021, 21:25:02 PM
Alternate reality

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-30/dodger-stadiums-covid-19-vaccination-site-shutdown-after-dozens-of-protesters-gather-at-entrance?fbclid=IwAR32IwKmDAZEq1gKsvm7SZi0H0toP5IIiLMCrBTUImIQQM1D-7k2MS3S3CQ


>>> The demonstrators included members of anti-vaccine and far-right groups. While some carried signs decrying the COVID-19 vaccine and shouting for people not to get the shots, there were no incidents of violence
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on February 02, 2021, 11:09:03 AM
Moderna #1 completed.  Minor pain and minor headache.  

With a snow alert yesterday, Madison County (pop 22,000) Health Department put out a notice:  "if you have an appointment, come whenever you feel it is safe."  I thought &^$*, it'll be a free-for-all, but we got there at 1:00 and were second in line.

They closed all county services today with heavy snow.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 02, 2021, 13:37:17 PM
Quote from: jwgnc on February 02, 2021, 11:09:03 AMModerna #1 completed.  Minor pain and minor headache. 

With a snow alert yesterday, Madison County (pop 22,000) Health Department put out a notice:  "if you have an appointment, come whenever you feel it is safe."  I thought &^$*, it'll be a free-for-all, but we got there at 1:00 and were second in line.

They closed all county services today with heavy snow.

It took about 6 hrs for my arm to really start hurting... good luck!!!  :drum

back to normal now...
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutboy_II on February 03, 2021, 09:47:39 AM
So had Wizer #2 yesterday at 10:00. Felt pretty good, arm a little sore, but not too bad. This morning I feel like shit - sore all over, head/sinus wonky, little energy.  :embarassed:

Troutgirl, on the other hand, feels good. So I guess the lesson here is you pays your money and takes your chances!  Still feel great that I have both shots on board now and I know I will be be back to normal in a day or so. All in all, very much worth a day or so of feeling punk.  Get the shots when you can.

Good luck everyone.

TB
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on February 03, 2021, 18:05:38 PM
Quote from: jwgnc on February 02, 2021, 11:09:03 AMModerna #1 completed.  Minor pain and minor headache. 

With a snow alert yesterday, Madison County (pop 22,000) Health Department put out a notice:  "if you have an appointment, come whenever you feel it is safe."  I thought &^$*, it'll be a free-for-all, but we got there at 1:00 and were second in line.

They closed all county services today with heavy snow.
How much did y'all get over there? I'm in Haywood a few miles from the Madison line, and we had about 5".
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutboy_II on February 04, 2021, 08:19:54 AM
Quote from: troutboy_II on February 03, 2021, 09:47:39 AMSo had Wizer #2 yesterday at 10:00. Felt pretty good, arm a little sore, but not too bad. This morning I feel like shit - sore all over, head/sinus wonky, little energy.  :embarassed:

Troutgirl, on the other hand, feels good. So I guess the lesson here is you pays your money and takes your chances!  Still feel great that I have both shots on board now and I know I will be be back to normal in a day or so. All in all, very much worth a day or so of feeling punk.  Get the shots when you can.

Good luck everyone.

TB

Followup:

Well, woke up today and felt normal again.  Remember, my "normal" at 71 has its own set of aches and pains, but felt great to be back to that normal.

So, second shot on Tues. morning; felt ok; woke up Wednesday feeling lousy; Thurs., woke up feeling good again.

Summary- worth it. I will feel like seeing my kids and grandkids are not a potential death sentence.  d:b  Still wear a mask though...

I'm only posting this so those of you hesitating for some reason will have some a life experience for perspective. And for what it's worth, Troutgirl only had a slight headache, so it could be mostly a nonevent for many of you.

Goodluck signing up
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on February 04, 2021, 11:12:27 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on February 03, 2021, 18:05:38 PM
Quote from: jwgnc on February 02, 2021, 11:09:03 AMModerna #1 completed.  Minor pain and minor headache. 

With a snow alert yesterday, Madison County (pop 22,000) Health Department put out a notice:  "if you have an appointment, come whenever you feel it is safe."  I thought &^$*, it'll be a free-for-all, but we got there at 1:00 and were second in line.

They closed all county services today with heavy snow.
How much did y'all get over there? I'm in Haywood a few miles from the Madison line, and we had about 5".
We got about 4" thru Tuesday at the house - at 2650 feet.  They cancelled Vax appointments Tuesday, but resumed Wednesday.  FYI: My minor pain and headache was gone by the morning after.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on February 09, 2021, 13:54:10 PM
Got my 2nd shot at 0930 this morning. So far so good. I will give an update tomorrow.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on February 10, 2021, 07:00:23 AM
Around 11:30am yesterday I got the second dose of Moderna.  Slept like a baby, no effects.

Rock on folks!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on February 10, 2021, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Al on February 09, 2021, 13:54:10 PMGot my 2nd shot at 0930 this morning. So far so good. I will give an update tomorrow.

Just before bedtime my bones started to ache. Felt like I'd been shot at and missed and shit at and hit. Feeling a little better now but not planning to do much today.

Still, overall I am glad I got the shots
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on February 10, 2021, 14:04:26 PM
Al, which brand did you receive?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on February 10, 2021, 18:26:41 PM
Around 10am this morning I started to experience minor chilling.  I question if it was the 2nd Moderna or knowing I was forced to spend the entire day with the Mrs, which I rarely do.  We just celebrated our 36th wedding anniversary so I felt somewhat obligated.

Home alone now and chills have disappeared.   
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on February 10, 2021, 20:09:11 PM
Quote from: troutrus on February 10, 2021, 14:04:26 PMAl, which brand did you receive?

Moderna  -  The gal who gave me the shot said I would feel it. She was right. Bone ache is gone but I felt a little nauseous this afternoon. Took a nap and feel pretty good now. Going to bed early tonight. I expect I will be back to normal in the morning.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 10, 2021, 22:14:47 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-fully-vaccinated-people-don-t-need-quarantine-if-exposed-n1257336?fbclid=IwAR2SaFObL2bGToSHpAxDWtqik6sTSstJt1vUKPdlUkXNHjQdAqdHsddRWCc

CDC fully vaccinated people don't need to quarantine if exposed

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: itieuglyflies on February 12, 2021, 22:01:44 PM
Thank you NC screw you Va. Had to drive 300 miles but wife and I were able to get first vaccine
dose today in NC. Have been on multiple lists for a couple of weeks in Richmond to no avail.

Daughter in Boone located a Walgreens near Grandfather Mountain that had openings and we made the
trip. Hopefully by second dose time we can find something closer to home.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 13, 2021, 07:28:57 AM
Quote from: itieuglyflies on February 12, 2021, 22:01:44 PMThank you NC screw you Va. Had to drive 300 miles but wife and I were able to get first vaccine
dose today in NC. Have been on multiple lists for a couple of weeks in Richmond to no avail.

Daughter in Boone located a Walgreens near Grandfather Mountain that had openings and we made the
trip. Hopefully by second dose time we can find something closer to home.

Did they not make an appt for your second shot after you received the first one? I read that they plan the 2nd dose to be administered at the same location...
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: itieuglyflies on February 13, 2021, 07:47:37 AM
Actually got second appts. scheduled at a location in Boone. It's not mandatory that you get second dose at same place. (it's better for the high country that I get scheduled at another location since rain and bad weather usually follows me to this area)
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on February 13, 2021, 09:36:12 AM
Just got my second Pfizer shot.
Out of the hundreds of folks in the convention center, the only black, latino or asian persons I saw were health care workers.
That is a huge problem, folks.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on February 13, 2021, 10:52:19 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on February 13, 2021, 09:36:12 AMJust got my second Pfizer shot.
Out of the hundreds of folks in the convention center, the only black, latino or asian persons I saw were health care workers.
That is a huge problem, folks.

Being poor goes far beyond not having money and race. Disenfranchised folk of all backgrounds tend to see themselves not a part of society.  Like an Autistic child they simply stare through fogged glass, and watch the wheels turn without them.  Most don't even know they're mentally ill.   Poverty is a mental illness as well as a circumstantial issue.  If one cannot beat the illness, one never moves forward.

My mom had lost her teeth due to malnutrition and infection by age 13, and was sold into black market (Amish) servitude during her later teen years.  The infection stemmed from rat hunting in a chicken house, and apparently particulates got in her mouth, and an existing infection turned into a raging mess. Sadly, my mom is still afflicted with the poverty illness.

My MIL lived in a one room cabin with no outhouse until she was 7.  They simply crapped, and urinated in the woods.  The only reason an outhouse upgrade happened is because my wife's aunt had a 3' section of tapeworm hanging out of her arse as she screamed for help. The clan finally moved to a house that had a well around 1948.  My MIL was a fighter, but the stench of poverty resulted in my wife being bullied, and beaten until she reached high school age.  MIL insisted her girls would go to college, and both did.  My wife kept her grades up, earned scholarships, worked 2 jobs, endured sexual harassment, and double majored, and later earned an advanced degree. The illness was soundly defeated.



Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on February 13, 2021, 16:30:31 PM
I appreciate your narrative and your family's history, Ken.
Most of us on here have been extremely fortunate. I for one.
But I said nothing about poor.
I was merely pointing out what my eyeballs saw.
This was in a convention center in downtown Roanoke.
The largest city in VA west of Richmond, we have a very diverse population. And my eyeballs saw what the stats strongly suggest.
That minorities lag way behind whites in vaccinations.
Everyone should have access and encouragement to get the vaccine.
And yes, even the poor.
We are all in this together.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 13, 2021, 18:01:39 PM
Pretty much the same here in Winston — when I took mom to the health dept in East Winston I expected us to be in the minority, but I was taken aback by the whiteness of those in line for the vaccine. And again when I took her for the second shot at the fairgrounds the crowds was predominantly white (maybe 85-90%) In a county that is about 66% white.

What factors contribute to such a low minority turn out?

1) mistrust of the medical community?
2) lack of time to spend hunting down an appt?
3) lack of transportation?
4) inability to get time off of work?


Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 13, 2021, 18:04:59 PM
Dad grew up in poverty and a broken home. Don't have details but I know they had an outhouse. Not a period of his life that he would talk about, other than going to school in a one room schoolhouse with a pot bellies stove and an outhouse too.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 13, 2021, 18:29:04 PM
here are the demographics for our state..

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https://public.tableau.com/shared/N2RS2GS3J?:toolbar=n&:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link&:embed=y

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on February 14, 2021, 10:08:02 AM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on February 13, 2021, 18:01:39 PMWhat factors contribute to such a low minority turn out?

1) mistrust of the medical community?
2) lack of time to spend hunting down an appt?
3) lack of transportation?
4) inability to get time off of work?




I vote a lack of trust in the medical community.  I don't feel poverty has anything to do with it.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 14, 2021, 10:54:56 AM
Almost 3% on vaccines in NC given to out-of-staters p;-  p;-
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on February 14, 2021, 13:34:33 PM
In the last two weeks it seems supply has greatly increased.
My wife, her sister and I worked diligently early on and got shots in Guilford and Forsyth Cnty.,each about a one hour drive. We have friends that for medical and personal reasons were not willing to travel. About ten days ago I received a call from a small medical facility where I had received a covid test last August. They called to offer us an appointment right around the corner from our house here in Eden. Since we didn't need the shots, my wife asked if they could be offered to our neighbor friends who are in their 80's. The lady was very accommodating, and our friends got their first shot this past Tuesday right around the corner.  I received an email on the 13th (yesterday) from Cone Health indicating that I could sign up for first shots in Guilford County for today, the 14th. I have since removed our names from their list. Wife and I are scheduled for round two tomorrow morning at Winston Salem fairgrounds.
Things are looking up. Stay positive.  <-;:
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: rford on February 17, 2021, 17:01:57 PM
In Pittsylvania County, leaders in the local NAACP arranged to have vaccinations given on February 6th at a church associational building.  They had over 700 with a very high percentage being Black.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on February 17, 2021, 18:39:59 PM
Sandy and I got our 2nd dose of Pfizer on Monday morning. I woke about 1 am Tuesday with an extreme case of chills and a headache. Sandy got up about 5am to find me in the living room under 4 afghans, wearing a watch cap, wool gloves, and heavy wool socks. Chills left me about 9am, but headaches persisted throughout the day and me trying to fight it off with a couple Tylenol every four hours. Hit the bed about 9pm and with help from melatonin slept well for 11 hours. Woke up feeling great.
Not a bad trade off in my opinion.
And I am most grateful that my wife experienced no symptoms other than a sore arm. ❤️
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: rbphoto on February 24, 2021, 08:50:58 AM
This is the worst way of measuring efficiency I have seen in a long time:



If business measured "success" the way our government and news agencies do, there would be a lot fewer businesses in the world.

The information presented doesn't communicated how many vaccines were made available, doesn't communicate waste/loss, doesn't communicate anything related to the population.

While I'm complaining about how people think:

1.  Why does our government get to decide who needs to (and who doesn't) get the vaccine? 

2.  Apparently, the government doesn't trust our healthcare system to make wise, educated decisions.

3.  Who is paying for the vaccines? 

<Rant - OFF>
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on February 24, 2021, 09:11:40 AM
Quote from: rbphoto on February 24, 2021, 08:50:58 AMThis is the worst way of measuring efficiency I have seen in a long time:



If business measured "success" the way our government and news agencies do, there would be a lot fewer businesses in the world.

The information presented doesn't communicated how many vaccines were made available, doesn't communicate waste/loss, doesn't communicate anything related to the population.

While I'm complaining about how people think:

1.  Why does our government get to decide who needs to (and who doesn't) get the vaccine? 

2.  Apparently, the government doesn't trust our healthcare system to make wise, educated decisions.

3.  Who is paying for the vaccines? 

<Rant - OFF>

May I rant about something different. It appears certain privileged people in our community are jumping way ahead in the line. How can someone under 50 that is not a front line worker, that is not a health care worker get the vaccine?  Bribery?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on February 24, 2021, 10:03:29 AM
Quote from: Onslow on February 24, 2021, 09:11:40 AM
Quote from: rbphoto on February 24, 2021, 08:50:58 AMThis is the worst way of measuring efficiency I have seen in a long time:



If business measured "success" the way our government and news agencies do, there would be a lot fewer businesses in the world.

The information presented doesn't communicated how many vaccines were made available, doesn't communicate waste/loss, doesn't communicate anything related to the population.

While I'm complaining about how people think:

1.  Why does our government get to decide who needs to (and who doesn't) get the vaccine? 

2.  Apparently, the government doesn't trust our healthcare system to make wise, educated decisions.

3.  Who is paying for the vaccines? 

<Rant - OFF>

May I rant about something different. It appears certain privileged people in our community are jumping way ahead in the line. How can someone under 50 that is not a front line worker, that is not a health care worker get the vaccine?  Bribery?

What is the source of the graph?  Was it the CDC or was it another entity that made the graph from CDC data?

I do question the availability of the vaccine to certain groups.  I don't think there is any bribery or shenanigans here in my area because so few are well-heeled enough to bribe, but I do wonder about other areas of the U.S.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on February 24, 2021, 20:07:47 PM
Quote from: rbphoto on February 24, 2021, 08:50:58 AMThis is the worst way of measuring efficiency I have seen in a long time:



If business measured "success" the way our government and news agencies do, there would be a lot fewer businesses in the world.

The information presented doesn't communicated how many vaccines were made available, doesn't communicate waste/loss, doesn't communicate anything related to the population.

While I'm complaining about how people think:

1.  Why does our government get to decide who needs to (and who doesn't) get the vaccine? 

2.  Apparently, the government doesn't trust our healthcare system to make wise, educated decisions.

3.  Who is paying for the vaccines? 

<Rant - OFF>

Goodhart's Law:
"When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure." 

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 25, 2021, 09:15:00 AM
WFDD's Eddi Garcia did a report on "jumping" line to get vaccine....

1. In Forsyth County, and maybe others, no ID is required to schedule or receive a vaccine

2. No employment verification is required

3. It's pretty much an honor system.

4. There is no data pertaining to line jumping 


https://www.wfdd.org/story/few-safeguards-place-prevent-vaccine-line-skipping-nc
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on February 26, 2021, 12:10:29 PM
South African woman whips off her THONG and uses it as a make-shift mask after being warned about having no face covering by supermarket staff

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/02/26/1706417306101856057/636x382_MP4_1706417306101856057.mp4 (https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/02/26/1706417306101856057/636x382_MP4_1706417306101856057.mp4)
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 26, 2021, 12:29:21 PM
got jab numero dos  /'/  <-;:  :o  d:b  :Dance
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on February 26, 2021, 12:31:10 PM
in recent news:

Poll: 38% of Americans would give up sex for a year to be able to travel again immediately


in other news:

Poll: 38% of BRFFFers would give up fishing for a year to be able to have sex again
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 01, 2021, 10:23:59 AM
my second shot on Friday at 9:05 am wasn't as bad as the first, slight pain started 6 hrs after injection, and by 10 o'clock I was feeling very tired. Didn't sleep all that well, had some joint pain. I was in a bit of a fog most of the next day, but on Sunday I went for an 7 mile hike

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 01, 2021, 11:53:48 AM
My 2nd shot gave me even less trouble than the first. I was expecting to feel worse.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 01, 2021, 12:20:44 PM
A different look at who is unlikely/not sure to get a vaccination. 35K respondents.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 01, 2021, 13:42:57 PM
From a FB friend-

My dad had polio in the early 50s. My oldest brother was a wee baby and they had recently moved to Morristown from Montreal.  After spending a long time in the havemeyer unit at memorial he was fortunate to get away with a gimpy leg. However, as he got older he suffered post polio syndrome. You'd best believe my mother was at the front of the line to get us vaccinated.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on March 01, 2021, 14:40:43 PM
I recall taking polio vaccine orally on a sugar cube. And even after the vaccine my mom would still not allow me to go under the fire plug in the summer. 🤔
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 01, 2021, 15:23:36 PM
Quote from: troutrus on March 01, 2021, 14:40:43 PMI recall taking polio vaccine orally on a sugar cube. And even after the vaccine my mom would still not allow me to go under the fire plug in the summer. 🤔

One of my grandfathers had a brush with polio as a kid. I think it just made him crankier.
The sugar cube with the pink spot. Ditto.
If I wasn't in school, my mother shooed us outside to get into whatever we could.
It's a miracle I reached puberty.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 01, 2021, 15:48:31 PM
Quote from: troutrus on March 01, 2021, 14:40:43 PMI recall taking polio vaccine orally on a sugar cube. And even after the vaccine my mom would still not allow me to go under the fire plug in the summer. 🤔
I can remember them giving it to us in school.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 01, 2021, 15:50:06 PM
Quote from: troutrus on March 01, 2021, 14:45:02 PM
Quote from: Dougfish on March 01, 2021, 12:20:44 PMA different look at who is unlikely/not sure to get a vaccination. 35K respondents.



Adding White to the GOP label seems somewhat redundant.
Actually, the numbers of black, and especially Latino Republicans is growing steadily. Most of the Hispanic folks I know and quite a few black folks  I work with are very conservative.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Al on March 02, 2021, 08:02:21 AM
Last evening I attended the wake of the 1st close friend I knew who died of Covid. 73 years old and healthy and active. Both he and his wife tested positive. Neither showed symptoms.  Quarantined for 10days and thought they were good to go. He started shots - Got 1st one.  He then came down with pneumonia - waited too long before going to hospital. They immediately admitted him and he died 2 days later. Not sure if the shot triggered it or not.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 02, 2021, 08:12:06 AM
sorry for your loss Al, this thing is such a crap shoot
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutrus on March 02, 2021, 08:35:12 AM
Sorry about your friend Al.  Sad story.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 02, 2021, 08:55:08 AM
Sorry to hear it, Al.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 02, 2021, 10:15:59 AM
Whoa!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: bmadd on March 02, 2021, 12:48:52 PM
Wife and I are set to get second shot next Wednesday. First shot felt pain in my arm for probably 24 hours. Wife had a good case of fatigue the day after hers. Hoping the next round is the same.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on March 02, 2021, 13:50:49 PM
Moderna #2 yesterday at 1:00.  Minor headache.  If I were still working, I wouldn't take a sick day.  Same with my wife.

In a few weeks, I may get my first haircut in a year.
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Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 02, 2021, 14:19:08 PM
Quote from: Big J on November 12, 2020, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on November 11, 2020, 21:07:37 PMPositive thinking ! LOL.
Small ball here. Local fam we have constant contact with, only. Only getting a half bushel of oysters.
Be smart, folks.

Oysters? Am I local fam? You can throw the oysters 6 ft to me and I can wear a mask.

I am local fam!



Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on March 02, 2021, 16:39:49 PM
Quote from: jwgnc on March 02, 2021, 13:50:49 PMModerna #2 yesterday at 1:00.  Minor headache.  If I were still working, I wouldn't take a sick day.  Same with my wife.
Well, I may have gone in, but I'd have left early to take a nap. Our arms are sore, and we're tired.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 02, 2021, 17:08:43 PM
I hope everyone can get their shot(s), and those already who received theirs will fare well. 

Screw an oyster!   I ain't eating a filter-feeder and I ain't eating any critter's liver!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 02, 2021, 17:34:44 PM
I took my 88-yo mom to get her second dose of the Moderna last week. She had no issues at all with it.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 02, 2021, 17:35:45 PM
Quote from: Big J on March 02, 2021, 14:19:08 PM
Quote from: Big J on November 12, 2020, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on November 11, 2020, 21:07:37 PMPositive thinking ! LOL.
Small ball here. Local fam we have constant contact with, only. Only getting a half bushel of oysters.
Be smart, folks.

Oysters? Am I local fam? You can throw the oysters 6 ft to me and I can wear a mask.

I am local fam!




Oh yeah! I love oysters any and all ways.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 02, 2021, 18:35:11 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 02, 2021, 17:35:45 PMOh yeah! I love oysters any and all ways.

Except for Big J and his cohort, oysters ain't going to help any of us!  He and his young-aged, still-firing army will one day discover they can use that thing for its foremost purpose --- urination! 

https://morningsteel.com/oysters-and-erections/


Obligatory Virus tidbit:

"I never thought the comment "I wouldn't touch them with a six-foot pole" would become a national policy, but here we are!"
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 02, 2021, 21:36:52 PM
Not sure how the bivalves rolled into this thread, but hey!?
A bushel in December, a bushel this weekend. I have downed about half of them myself.
Jacob, my wife and I had 5 dozen for lunch to finish off this bushel of meaty York River oysters.
Mignonette and remoulade sauces, ftw.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 03, 2021, 00:22:59 AM
Quote from: Big J on March 02, 2021, 14:19:08 PM
Quote from: Big J on November 12, 2020, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: Dougfish on November 11, 2020, 21:07:37 PMPositive thinking ! LOL.
Small ball here. Local fam we have constant contact with, only. Only getting a half bushel of oysters.
Be smart, folks.

Oysters? Am I local fam? You can throw the oysters 6 ft to me and I can wear a mask.

I am local fam!





Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2021, 11:51:34 AM
J&J vaccine is being administered in Forsyth County— one and done jab is accelerating vaccinations in NC  d:b
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: driver on March 05, 2021, 17:40:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2021, 11:51:34 AMJ&J vaccine is being administered in Forsyth County— one and done jab is accelerating vaccinations in NC  d:b

I just got the J&J vax. That bitch hurt.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2021, 17:42:09 PM
Quote from: driver on March 05, 2021, 17:40:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2021, 11:51:34 AMJ&J vaccine is being administered in Forsyth County— one and done jab is accelerating vaccinations in NC  d:b

I just got the J&J vax. That bitch hurt.

Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: driver on March 05, 2021, 20:21:31 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2021, 17:42:09 PM
Quote from: driver on March 05, 2021, 17:40:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 05, 2021, 11:51:34 AMJ&J vaccine is being administered in Forsyth County— one and done jab is accelerating vaccinations in NC  d:b

I just got the J&J vax. That bitch hurt.



"You don't hear anymore"?
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on March 15, 2021, 16:32:07 PM
Got first shot yesterday.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 16, 2021, 17:20:15 PM
I'm hearing 11.8% of US is fully vaccinated against covid-19.
Our immediate neighbors and us are about 90% fully vaccinated.
We have started to normally socialize.
Maybe some of you need to move here.   :laugh:
Feeling very fortunate.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 16, 2021, 17:26:49 PM
Quote from: troutrus on March 16, 2021, 11:08:28 AMMy son got his first shot last week and received a button indicating he had been vaccinated.
I have a couple questions regarding the buttons:
- where the hell is mine?
- will the government ever stop wasting $$$$ ?

grumpy old man...

Quote from: Dougfish on March 16, 2021, 17:20:15 PMI'm hearing 11.8% of US is fully vaccinated against covid-19.
Our immediate neighbors and us are about 90% fully vaccinated.
We have started to normally socialize.
Maybe some of you need to move here.   :laugh:
Feeling very fortunate.


good fer you  /'/  V:;  :cheers


Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Phil on March 16, 2021, 18:46:26 PM
My wife is only in her 50s but has an underlying medical condition. She will be eligible starting later this week, I think. We're making calls tomorrow to try and get her an appt.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 16, 2021, 20:49:36 PM
My daughter got an appt 3/18
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Big J on March 26, 2021, 14:12:23 PM
Doug with a fresh shipment so round 2!



Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 27, 2021, 09:01:01 AM
Got my first microchip embedded a couple weeks ago, taking my wife this afternoon to get her first one.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 27, 2021, 10:21:14 AM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 27, 2021, 09:01:01 AMGot my first microchip embedded a couple weeks ago, taking my wife this afternoon to get her first one.  :laugh:

I questioned the accuracy, range, and functionality of the microchips previously implanted under the vaccine façade, so I visited the government site, fed.gov.locate-an-asshole.com, to check the precision of their tracking of my recent activity.  I only confirmed my travel over the last few days.  The government stalking was correct, except they did miss my recent stop on the way to the doctor at a McDonalds for a McRib.

Yaller, I examined your recent travel now that you've been "embedded".    It appears over the last 48 hours you've visited 4 gun shops, an Ace Hardware, and a Piggly Wiggly in Sanford, NC where you purchased 3 original Slim Jims, a lottery ticket, and a 24-ounce Colt 45 malt liquor.  I trust your chip is operating properly.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: rbphoto on March 27, 2021, 11:22:11 AM
Opening vaccine sites to age 16 & up in SC next Wednesday.  This experimental vaccine is going to change medicine, hopefully for the better. 

We shall see.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 27, 2021, 16:08:04 PM
Quote from: rbphoto on March 27, 2021, 11:22:11 AMOpening vaccine sites to age 16 & up in SC next Wednesday.  This experimental vaccine is going to change medicine, hopefully for the better. 

We shall see.
Or, kill every damn one of us in five years.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 27, 2021, 16:08:36 PM
Quote from: Big J on March 26, 2021, 14:12:23 PMDoug with a fresh shipment so round 2!




Want. Bigly.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Dougfish on March 28, 2021, 07:13:50 AM
My boi and I put away 6+ dozen.
Burp.



Gotta fatten him up for the beach.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Onslow on March 29, 2021, 09:24:04 AM
I work for a company of about 370 employees.  Said company lost its first to Covid today.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: hcrum87hc on March 29, 2021, 09:42:23 AM
Dad tested positive on Friday.  He'd been feeling fatigued and flush since Tuesday night, but no fever or respiratory symptoms and retained smell and taste.  He also had some pain in his groin and what felt like could be a swollen lymph node in that vicinity.  My sister, who's a nurse, suggested it sounded like prostatitis and that he should go to one of the local urgent care places on his way home from work on Wednesday. 

The NP he saw there said it sounded like a strained muscle in his groin and that she couldn't see anything else wrong with him. He asked about the flush feeling in his face, and she asked if he's had the Rona or the vaccine.  He has not, so they tested him and suggested he stay home until he got the results. 

Wednesday night he woke up in the middle of the night with a low grade fever and popped some Advil, which knocked it down.  He felt pretty fatigued all day Thursday, but nothing every really escalated, and his fever never returned.  Friday, he got his positive result.  Saturday he sent me pictures of some bass he caught behind the house, so I guess he's not feeling too bad.  Today he said he's getting better each day, so thankfully it seems his case has been mild.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 30, 2021, 18:18:01 PM
Quote from: troutrus on March 29, 2021, 07:18:43 AMIgnorance and conspiracy theories abound. Though I hadn't heard of the microchip theory, someone was telling me recently that the vaccine is only effective if you suffer through a significant reaction from the shots. 😳
They're there. Bill Gates is putting microchips in the shots. Or it's the Mark Of The Beast, take your pick. People are stupid.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on March 30, 2021, 20:56:25 PM
I had someone say the shot is how they track you. I have lived in same Area 51 years. Worked same job 30 and drive a big yellow box truck ar work. I told them I'm not too damn hard to find as it is. Get my second shot in about a week and a half. Stay well everyone.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: troutboy_II on March 31, 2021, 09:32:30 AM
You live in Area 51 :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on March 31, 2021, 18:48:06 PM
Quote from: greg on March 30, 2021, 20:56:25 PMI had someone say the shot is how they track you. I have lived in same Area 51 years. Worked same job 30 and drive a big yellow box truck ar work. I told them I'm not too damn hard to find as it is. Get my second shot in about a week and a half. Stay well everyone.
We all carry a tracking device in our pocket now, willingly.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 31, 2021, 19:07:30 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 31, 2021, 18:48:06 PM
Quote from: greg on March 30, 2021, 20:56:25 PMI had someone say the shot is how they track you. I have lived in same Area 51 years. Worked same job 30 and drive a big yellow box truck ar work. I told them I'm not too damn hard to find as it is. Get my second shot in about a week and a half. Stay well everyone.
We all carry a tracking device in our pocket now, willingly.

You mean cell phones?

What is the tracking prognosis on my 10+ year old flip phone, with no apps and no internet/GPS activation that I am aware of?  I never carry it while in my home area because I have no service.  I only carry it and turn it on when I trek into civilization across Back Creek mountain.  Even when I travel west to Pocahontas Co WV I never carry it because it never works supposedly from the block from the Greenbank WV Observatory.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2021, 19:30:25 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 31, 2021, 19:07:30 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 31, 2021, 18:48:06 PM
Quote from: greg on March 30, 2021, 20:56:25 PMI had someone say the shot is how they track you. I have lived in same Area 51 years. Worked same job 30 and drive a big yellow box truck ar work. I told them I'm not too damn hard to find as it is. Get my second shot in about a week and a half. Stay well everyone.
We all carry a tracking device in our pocket now, willingly.

You mean cell phones?

What is the tracking prognosis on my 10+ year old flip phone, with no apps and no internet/GPS activation that I am aware of?  I never carry it while in my home area because I have no service.  I only carry it and turn it on when I trek into civilization across Back Creek mountain.  Even when I travel west to Pocahontas Co WV I never carry it because it never works supposedly from the block from the Greenbank WV Observatory.

I'll the you the story of how the army can find your cell phone the moment you turn it on!
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 31, 2021, 19:56:01 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2021, 19:30:25 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 31, 2021, 19:07:30 PM
Quote from: Yallerhammer on March 31, 2021, 18:48:06 PM
Quote from: greg on March 30, 2021, 20:56:25 PMI had someone say the shot is how they track you. I have lived in same Area 51 years. Worked same job 30 and drive a big yellow box truck ar work. I told them I'm not too damn hard to find as it is. Get my second shot in about a week and a half. Stay well everyone.
We all carry a tracking device in our pocket now, willingly.

You mean cell phones?

What is the tracking prognosis on my 10+ year old flip phone, with no apps and no internet/GPS activation that I am aware of?  I never carry it while in my home area because I have no service.  I only carry it and turn it on when I trek into civilization across Back Creek mountain.  Even when I travel west to Pocahontas Co WV I never carry it because it never works supposedly from the block from the Greenbank WV Observatory.

I'll the you the story of how the army can find your cell phone the moment you turn it on!


Tell us the story.

I never worried about someone finding or tracking me, but this may prove to be yet another reason to get rid of the damned thing.  I was never fond of cell phones, and I don't see that sentiment changing.

I don't remember having a landline until I was high school age, and that freaking thing got me into more trouble than I earned (girls' parents calling my mom, school calling my parents, ugly girls calling me, game warden tracking my whereabouts, etc.).  Piss on all phones! 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on March 31, 2021, 20:21:21 PM
Quote from: troutboy_II on March 31, 2021, 09:32:30 AMYou live in Area 51 :o  :o  :o
it's kinda freaky.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2021, 21:47:22 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 31, 2021, 19:56:01 PM
Quote from: Woolly Bugger on March 31, 2021, 19:30:25 PM
Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on March 31, 2021, 19:07:30 PM
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Quote from: greg on March 30, 2021, 20:56:25 PMI had someone say the shot is how they track you. I have lived in same Area 51 years. Worked same job 30 and drive a big yellow box truck ar work. I told them I'm not too damn hard to find as it is. Get my second shot in about a week and a half. Stay well everyone.
We all carry a tracking device in our pocket now, willingly.

You mean cell phones?

What is the tracking prognosis on my 10+ year old flip phone, with no apps and no internet/GPS activation that I am aware of?  I never carry it while in my home area because I have no service.  I only carry it and turn it on when I trek into civilization across Back Creek mountain.  Even when I travel west to Pocahontas Co WV I never carry it because it never works supposedly from the block from the Greenbank WV Observatory.

I'll the you the story of how the army can find your cell phone the moment you turn it on!


Tell us the story.

I never worried about someone finding or tracking me, but this may prove to be yet another reason to get rid of the damned thing.  I was never fond of cell phones, and I don't see that sentiment changing.

I don't remember having a landline until I was high school age, and that freaking thing got me into more trouble than I earned (girls' parents calling my mom, school calling my parents, ugly girls calling me, game warden tracking my whereabouts, etc.).  Piss on all phones! 

Correction it was Air Force Search and Rescue..

this is the story...

https://www.brfff.com/forum/index.php/topic,9987.msg74967.html#msg74967
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on April 12, 2021, 11:16:00 AM
Got #2 moderna yesterday and it's rough. Feel like a really bad cold or flu. Woke up with fever. Damn I hope this shot works.
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: jwgnc on April 12, 2021, 12:16:32 PM
Quote from: greg on April 12, 2021, 11:16:00 AMGot #2 moderna yesterday and it's rough. Feel like a really bad cold or flu. Woke up with fever. Damn I hope this shot works.
CDC says that means your body is building protection.  My reaction wasn't that strong, but that's what I'm counting on.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html)
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: Yallerhammer on April 12, 2021, 13:16:52 PM
Quote from: greg on April 12, 2021, 11:16:00 AMGot #2 moderna yesterday and it's rough. Feel like a really bad cold or flu. Woke up with fever. Damn I hope this shot works.
Got my second one Friday, and it threw my ass down and stomped me flat Saturday. I felt fine yesterday, though. 
Title: Re: Corona Virus
Post by: greg on April 12, 2021, 15:42:55 PM
Glad I'm no the only one. I worked part of day today but it has whipped my ass. Surely tomorrow will be better.