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Title: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: JMiller on February 24, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
Citizen Kane can suck it.

Discuss.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13500000/Starship-Troopers-starship-troopers-13578615-1024-768.jpg)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Jfey on February 24, 2015, 12:51:20 PM
I have seen that movie many times and I agree.    It has it all:

terrible acting
Denise Richards
War against giant bugs
The future
giant brain sucking slugs
big ass weapons
spaceships
Neil Patrick Harris
Johnny Rico

and lots of quotable lines:

"if you don't do your job I will shoot you"

http://youtu.be/yhwJHF1Amkg  (http://youtu.be/yhwJHF1Amkg)

Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Jfey on February 24, 2015, 13:17:01 PM
Richards getting naked has little to do with a movie being great.  Its a nice addition to the movie, but Wild Things  is not on the same level as Starship Troopers
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Grannyknot on February 24, 2015, 13:23:27 PM
Road House?
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Dougfish on February 24, 2015, 13:27:56 PM
The Princess Bride?

Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Grannyknot on February 24, 2015, 13:29:09 PM
Quote from: Dougfish on February 24, 2015, 13:27:56 PM
The Princess Bride?

come on doug.  fun movie, but we are talking serious contenders here.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: benben reincarnated on February 24, 2015, 13:50:30 PM
Can't pull over anymore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8LPdTX4Hk0#)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Jfey on February 24, 2015, 13:59:15 PM
I think you are right Ben.  S.T. held the title for many years, but Super Troopers is probably the current title holder.  That moving is amazing.  "All right meow"
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: benben reincarnated on February 24, 2015, 14:03:49 PM
Quote from: Jfey on February 24, 2015, 13:59:15 PM
I think you are right Ben.  S.T. held the title for many years, but Super Troopers is probably the current title holder.  That moving is amazing.  "All right meow"

That opening scene to me is funny as shit.  "Pull over man!  Pull over more!"

The meow scene is another good one, thought about posting it instead.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: JMiller on February 24, 2015, 14:10:23 PM
Lots of great movies out here.
I think it's wrong to  pick a comedy as the greatest movie ever. Not sure why, but the best comedy I've seen is still Dumb and Dumber followed closely by Bad Santa.

Now back to Starship Troopers.
I think that when that movie came out, people weren't as up on satire as they are now, but basically the film is a redux of Full Metal Jacket to make the same case that Team America World Police did a decade later. Lampooning fascism, pointing out the ridiculousness of wartime propaganda, and juxtaposing modern american hawk  culture against the rise of Naziism (to become a citizen). This is somewhat subtle, but notice the stage is set  in Argentina (where the Nazis escaped after the war) and the uniforms are basically SS knockoffs. Yet it's clearly aimed at Americans. I just think it's pretty clever. "God damn bugs whacked us Johnny."

Also, not sure I've ever seen a woman hotter than young Denise Richards. Yeah, she's older now and been Ma-Sheened, but wow was she good looking in her 20s.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: benben reincarnated on February 24, 2015, 14:12:02 PM
X2 on Dumb and Dumber, a classic.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on February 24, 2015, 14:13:07 PM
2 old and 2 newer = the best, the greatest

http://youtu.be/hcaOIRYwsWg (http://youtu.be/hcaOIRYwsWg)

http://youtu.be/3jkNDgel8C0 (http://youtu.be/3jkNDgel8C0)

http://youtu.be/m44NQUIOaiQ (http://youtu.be/m44NQUIOaiQ)

http://youtu.be/R0jhpgMXZug (http://youtu.be/R0jhpgMXZug)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: bmadd on February 24, 2015, 14:24:10 PM
While I love Super Troupers, I'll make a case for the American history lesson that is Forrest Gump.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Dougfish on February 24, 2015, 14:24:28 PM
Quote from: Grannyknot on February 24, 2015, 13:29:09 PM
Quote from: Dougfish on February 24, 2015, 13:27:56 PM
The Princess Bride?

come on doug.  fun movie, but we are talking serious contenders here.

The two most quotable movies I know are TPB and Blazing Saddles.
And come on, you've got:

"Andre the Giant was the greatest human being on earth
At 7'4" and 540 pounds, Andre knew he was scary. (The first time Chris Sarandon's daughters saw him, they ran screaming.) To help people relax, Andre called everyone "Boss," and when Robin Wright got the shivers between takes, he would warm her by resting a huge hand on her head, like a hat. One day, Andre casually mentioned that Waiting for Godot playwright Samuel Beckett used to drive him to school in rural France, after he grew too tall for the school bus. Beckett, who had hired Andre's father as a handyman, owned a convertible and took the top down to chauffeur Andre to class. Elwes asked what on earth the wrestler and the Nobel Prize winner talked about. Said Andre, "Mostly cricket."

But, boy, could Andre the Giant drink.
In one night, Andre could polish off three bottles of cognac and 12 bottles of wine and feel only a little tipsy. He kept a flask of cognac in his costume, but his favorite drink was a monstrosity called "the American," a 40-ounce beer pitcher filled with whatever booze he felt like that day: merlot, brandy, beer, vodka, whatever. The first time Andre the Giant and Robin Wright went out for dinner, he ordered four appetizers, five entrees and a case of wine. While bar-hopping with Elwes in New York, the two were politely tracked by an off-duty cop who was hired to keep an eye on Andre in case he fell over and hurt someone — again. (Andre generously bought the officer several drinks.) And the night of The Princess Bride's first script read-through, Andre got so drunk at the hotel bar that he passed out in the middle of the lobby. The hotel employees couldn't move him, so they put velvet ropes around his snoring corpse and told the maids not to vacuum until he woke up. "
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: JMiller on February 24, 2015, 14:36:04 PM
I think Princess Bride is a fair choice. It makes me happy that Fred Savage is a Bears fan in the movie and that Columbo is his grandad.


Forrest Gump? Good movie. Great movie. Too much 'Bama though. Like freaking Bama fans needed that ego boost. Why couldn't he have played for Vandy?  Only way it could've been worse is if he went on to play for the Packers.

One way to tell if a movie is great is if it gets copied, like I mentioned before with Full Metal Jacket.
Big Fish is essentially a Forrest Gump knockoff.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Aka on February 24, 2015, 15:29:38 PM
Tough call. Got to be either Point Break

http://youtu.be/78s7DO5eehQ (http://youtu.be/78s7DO5eehQ)

or Tropic Thunder

http://youtu.be/utPTtw0sNbA (http://youtu.be/utPTtw0sNbA)

Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Grannyknot on February 24, 2015, 15:49:05 PM
tf, you just like point break because they talk like tranny the whole movie.
admit it. bruh
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: benben reincarnated on February 24, 2015, 15:54:50 PM
Fuck, I forgot about Tropic Thunder.

"You just went full retard."

Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: RiverbumCO on February 24, 2015, 16:06:17 PM
Goodfellas is my favorite.

and Ric flair claims hes seen Andre down over a hundred beers in a sitting multiple times.  Said his roadie could drink over 50.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Big J on February 24, 2015, 16:20:58 PM
Did someone say Ric Flair?

http://youtu.be/ct7IWkiiWgA (http://youtu.be/ct7IWkiiWgA)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Big J on February 24, 2015, 16:27:48 PM
Quote from: steelrain202 on February 24, 2015, 16:22:01 PM
my brother put flair in a head lock one time many years ago. it was hilarious

Very jealous. 
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: benben reincarnated on February 24, 2015, 18:05:39 PM
It does buck the trend, but I'm gonna X2 Last of the Mohicans.  Great movie, great soundtrack, all filmed around Asheville too.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: JMiller on February 24, 2015, 18:33:50 PM
I like all of the "Last of the ____ " movies.

Last of the Mohicans
Last of the Dog Men
Last Samurai
Last Starfighter

In each, the last of the ____ inevitably ends up being a white guy who is better at being a ____ then all the native born _____ who trained him.

But seriously, Last of the Mohicans is a great flick.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: ruttness on February 24, 2015, 19:10:17 PM
Reservoir Dogs
Goodfellas
Pulp fiction
Ben-Hur
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: NCsporksman on February 24, 2015, 20:02:27 PM
C'mon guys...no love for Apocolypse now? A little heart of Darkness, I kno ya'll love creepin up sketchy ass rivers... amirite?

Also a fan of what Terry Gilliam did with "Fear and Loathing in LV" but maybe need to go back and watch it sobrerer

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kqFwVuQ-Hg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kqFwVuQ-Hg#ws)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Onslow on February 24, 2015, 20:06:56 PM
For those who like em a little creepy, this is a winner.   This should not be mistaken for the lame assed murican version.

http://youtu.be/MpGNPkdknvc (http://youtu.be/MpGNPkdknvc)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Onslow on February 24, 2015, 20:10:46 PM
This the grand pubah of hink and zany.

http://youtu.be/SRdxZxZGJqI (http://youtu.be/SRdxZxZGJqI)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Dougfish on February 24, 2015, 20:13:28 PM
Quote from: ruttness on February 24, 2015, 19:10:17 PM
Reservoir Dogs
Goodfellas
Pulp fiction
Ben-Hur

'c;
I knew you were a fellow sick fucker.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Beetle on February 24, 2015, 21:00:53 PM
Come on 'scro..... IDIOCRACY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYpfHBicjQk

Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: RiverbumCO on February 24, 2015, 21:17:59 PM
Idiocrqcy is great.

How bout First Blood or Predator? 

Home Alone?

Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: bmadd on February 24, 2015, 21:20:55 PM
Home Alone and Christmas Vacation are on top of my greatest holiday movie list. Cometo think of it, they are the list.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: RiverbumCO on February 24, 2015, 21:43:31 PM
Respek


http://youtu.be/O7fsM9q27sc (http://youtu.be/O7fsM9q27sc)

Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Rhody on February 24, 2015, 22:01:05 PM
http://youtu.be/nN23cFLHE7s
Second Hand Lions-Duvall is my favorite and this is one of my favorites
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Onslow on February 25, 2015, 05:10:42 AM
QuoteSecond Hand Lions-Duvall is my favorite and this is one of my favorites

Definitely two thumbs up for this one.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: troutboy_II on February 25, 2015, 16:10:29 PM
Hmmm...

Since I did not see but parts of Starship Trooper, I passed this thread until today.  I admit I like what is usually described as "chick flicks", but I also like most of the films mentioned in the thread that clearly don't qualify in that regard (Apocalypse Now for example - great, great flick!).

So I think Princess Bride is one of the best, but I was surprised the Love Actually didn't make the thread.  As a film project, this is, IMHO, a perfect film.  That being said, either you loved it or you hated it.

Discuss...

TB
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: bmadd on February 25, 2015, 16:15:30 PM
Quote from: troutboy_II on February 25, 2015, 16:10:29 PM
Hmmm...

Since I did not see but parts of Starship Trooper, I passed this thread until today.  I admit I like what is usually described as "chick flicks", but I also like most of the films mentioned in the thread that clearly don't qualify in that regard (Apocalypse Now for example - great, great flick!).

So I think Princess Bride is one of the best, but I was surprised the Love Actually didn't make the thread.  As a film project, this is, IMHO, a perfect film.  That being said, either you loved it or you hated it.

Discuss...

TB
GTFO. Discussed
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: NCsporksman on February 25, 2015, 18:15:28 PM
I told Rody and Woolly I liked the princess bride, we were drinkin by the Soho.....I was ridiculed mercilessly... didn't cry #winning  d:b
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Dougfish on February 25, 2015, 18:34:00 PM
One more reason I like you, Spork.  'c;
Title: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: bullship on February 25, 2015, 19:25:36 PM
I am some guy on the Internet. You killed my father. Prepare to be berated with lunacy and unreasonable political ideology.

I liked Andre the giant.

I'm a fan of comedies.

And porn

That's about it

Bruce Willis can eat a dick

Spaceballs ftmfw
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Rhody on February 25, 2015, 20:03:32 PM
#stillridiculingyoumericlessspork, #gohangwithtb2andkarl for punishment


we needa go fish soon spork and get wooooolly out
Title: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: benben reincarnated on February 25, 2015, 20:07:24 PM
I've learned something new.  Rhody loves good beer, fishing from a bote, and the new thing, movies.  Carry on bitches.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: NCsporksman on February 25, 2015, 20:09:17 PM
#whothafuckiskarl #iwannafishinafancyboatandgetwoollyhighasakitedude
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: bullship on February 25, 2015, 20:10:37 PM
Quote from: NCsporksman on February 25, 2015, 20:09:17 PM
#whothafuckiskarl #iwannafishinafancyboatandgetwoollyhighasakitedude

x2
Title: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Rhody on February 25, 2015, 21:04:29 PM
damn woolly where's tp when we need him?

#sporkneedstoupdate

#revisittheoldtroutphiservstroutboyposts


oletimers rule!
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: gillman on February 25, 2015, 22:02:57 PM
Paint Your Wagon. "I was born under a wandering star." Lee Marvin, Clint Eastwood, Jean Seberg, Ouch.  Have you seen it?
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on February 26, 2015, 07:44:11 AM
Quote from: gillman on February 25, 2015, 22:02:57 PM
Paint Your Wagon. "I was born under a wandering star." Lee Marvin, Clint Eastwood, Jean Seberg, Ouch.  Have you seen it?

Yes, a very enjoyable movie.  Lee Marvin was a cool dude!

I am surprised no one has mentioned Pitch Perfect, one of my favorites.

http://youtu.be/cNSx1RdPl04 (http://youtu.be/cNSx1RdPl04)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: Mudwall Gatewood 3.0 on February 26, 2015, 09:19:04 AM
Others appreciated:     

http://youtu.be/qiSAbAuLhqs (http://youtu.be/qiSAbAuLhqs)

http://youtu.be/L-9jd3K4SpI (http://youtu.be/L-9jd3K4SpI)
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: JMiller on February 28, 2015, 21:04:32 PM
Sorry, sorry, drinking.
Title: Re: Contention: Starship Troopers is the greatest movie of all time
Post by: JMiller on April 28, 2015, 09:14:56 AM
Apparently they're remaking Starship Troopers?

Terrible Idea.

Anyway, good article on the film here:

http://www.popmatters.com/feature/191583-the-only-good-bug-is-a-dead-bug-starship-troopers-and-the-politics-o/ (http://www.popmatters.com/feature/191583-the-only-good-bug-is-a-dead-bug-starship-troopers-and-the-politics-o/)