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Title: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: badankles on January 27, 2006, 14:15:21 PM
got my first breathable waders and was wondering what y'all suggest as liners for cold water wading?  i was thinking about using sweats.

saw these on orvis http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=70KCws&feature_i d=&dir_id=1137&group_id=1157&cat_id=5224&subcat_id=6193&shop_id= (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=70KCws&feature_i%20d=&dir_id=1137&group_id=1157&cat_id=5224&subcat_id=6193&shop_id=)

thanks.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: FT on January 27, 2006, 14:37:12 PM
I use these
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ever since my wife found a pair in the back of my Explorer. 

But those liners would probably do a better job of keeping you warm..
Seriously, though, I wear Doufold long johns and/or fleece sweatpants.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: flyman on January 27, 2006, 15:00:38 PM
That stuff looks fine, good price. I just wear polypro underwear bottoms or fleece sweatpants in cool weather. Try to avoid garments that don't wick moisture aways from the skin.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: walt on January 27, 2006, 15:31:40 PM
ba... congrats on the b'ables..... you will love them as long as you don't wear sweats!... or jeans, or any cotton non-wicking clothing.... that sucks... you will actually think that your waders are leaking because of sweat buildup.

any of the following, differing weights for climate, will serve you well:

good ole fleece pants.
patagonia capilene
simms waderwick
simms rivertek

i like to layer, depending on the season...

1) silk or lightweight capilene or waderwick, as the base.

2) midweight or heavyweight over that.

3) or just a good ole fleece pant.... i like the simms polartec but i've used the columbia high brass this season and love them... especially the built-in foot-keeper that keeps the pants from riding up.

4) the simms rivertek midweight top is great.... use it as a base layer with fleece over that and as the day warms up strip off the fleece outer layer and enjoy...

5) during the summer months a good pair of lightweight pants (i like the columbia convertibles or the sage guides), again, non-cotton, or just the silk or lw capilene is great.... course when ya pull yer waders off back at the truck all yer fishin' buddies will be whistlin' at how cute ya are out thar in the wilds..... as long as thar ain't no b'jo music, you'll be fine.

any good fly shop carries all of the above.... it's worth the investment.... i'm a firm believer in comfort astream.

walt
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: badankles on January 27, 2006, 21:28:10 PM
thanks walt.  you saved me from having to try what FT suggested.   ;)

oh, man, not a good image... :P
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: Grumpy on January 27, 2006, 22:35:22 PM
FT
I have problems with the garter's popping loose, do you wear them or are those the self supporting type? ::)

Grumpy
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: ridgeliner on January 29, 2006, 12:43:54 PM
I agree on the fleece. I have a light weight and a heavy weight set (top & bottoms). One of these days I need to get a mid weight set. I also use silk underwear. Stay away from sweats or any other cotton.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: phg on January 29, 2006, 16:52:20 PM
OK, I'm no expert, but, if it's cold I wear a pair of thermals under normal khakis.  If the temperatures are normal (50's or higher) I'll just wear the khakis.  Is moisture a problem?  Not really.  A few beads of sweat will form, and, in cold water, you will feel an occasional pinpoint of cold on your legs from time to time (as in 1 every 30 minutes), but once you realize what it is, it's not a problem.  When I take my waders off, I do not have wet spots on my legs, and I have been comfortable all day.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: Woolly Bugger on January 30, 2006, 09:02:17 AM
Depending on the temp.

just a piar of kakies or

just fleece

or polypro longjohns under the fleece....

Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: B Loy on January 30, 2006, 19:24:24 PM
Quote from: walt on January 27, 2006, 15:31:40 PM
ba... congrats on the b'ables..... you will love them as long as you don't wear sweats!... or jeans, or any cotton non-wicking clothing.... that sucks... you will actually think that your waders are leaking because of sweat buildup.

Walt is right on target! I thought jeans would be just fine, by the end of the day I thought my new breathables were leaking! don't wear just jeans. In cold water I have been comfortable with long johns under my jeans. I also wear a pair of those real thick/heavy socks over my normal socks. My feet have never been cold yet. I have even looked at some of the GoodWill stores for a pair of fleece pants,  haven't found any yet.
Barry
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: shanktrout on January 30, 2006, 23:14:22 PM
This may help..... third paragraph

http://www.flyfishinginnh.com/story.php?id=2

All my fishing up here lately has been sub freezing!
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: badankles on January 31, 2006, 10:45:40 AM
thanks guys (and gals?)  you saved me from a cold and sweaty fishing day.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: Rod Champion on February 01, 2006, 08:21:20 AM
Wateerworks Under Wader Wear- It is the Best!
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: badankles on February 01, 2006, 21:24:37 PM
just wanted to let you know i went out to grab the suggested base layers along with fleece top and bottom today.  i feel much more comfortable and ready for the weather come next week.  heading up to the shenandoah area for a ski week with the family and these layers should be good for that, too.

thanks again, y'all.

i got some good tips from the folks up there, so hopefully i can bring back a good report to share.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: Stuart R. on February 02, 2006, 22:29:54 PM
I am not spending a bunch of $ on wader pants. I wear a pair of khakis or sometimes jeans. I do this from about 15 to 70 degrees after that I may break out a pair of shorts if I am feeling frisky. I do have a little wet spot right around the cuff where I tuck my pants legs into my socks but that is it. I really don't have a problem with my legs getting cold but if it is an issue got o wal-mart they have good poly pro undies with there hunting stuff in the fall/winter. I just think $ could be spent better than a pair of underoos with the Simms label on them.

STU
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: badankles on February 03, 2006, 09:54:33 AM
nah, i headed over to marshal's and got lucky they still had stuff in my size.  if i get too warm on the water, then i'll know next time.  figured i'd be safe than sorry with my first time out.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: shanktrout on February 03, 2006, 23:34:26 PM
QuoteI do this from about 15 to 70 degrees after that I may break out a pair of shorts if I am feeling frisky

15 degrees.... ;)  ::) ::)  :-*

QuoteThe temperature drops to 10° or 12° F about once during an average winter over central North Carolina,

http://www.nc-climate.ncsu.edu/climate/index.html
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: Stuart R. on February 10, 2006, 10:36:03 AM
Yep shanktrout, I gto outta the blazer at the Holston parking lot one day in Jan. the thermometer said 13 degrees. Cold is a mental thing, that means you have to be crazy to be out in it! ;D But no really I do like a good pair of wool socks my feet get cold faster than anywhere well them and my hands.

STU
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: fjnardo on March 29, 2006, 00:22:31 AM
I've always used fleece and never gotten cold, but the Simms Waderwick looks good.
Title: Re: What's Under Those Waders?
Post by: jamisjockey on November 14, 2006, 14:35:51 PM
This one's kind of old but I just saw it for the first time.

I wear either long johns or fleece tights, or a combo of both.
The long johns are polypro
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=19296&memberId=12500226
the fleece tights I got at a ski shop, they're much like the ones sold in a fly fishing shop but were under $20.  like these
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=24793333&memberId=12500226