Pretentious Snobby Bastard Fly Fishing!

Ive all ways wondered what a rugby game would like like if America entered REAL professionals.

Im thinking a whole team full of pro Fullbacks. Running backs, Linebackers, and Defensive Ends from the NFL

would be interesting

Sorry Benson. Carlin Isles ain't got shit on Bryan Habana. He's rapid, tackles and is a real rugby player. Not a sprinter. Notice Carlin plays in Sevens which is almost touch or as you Yanks say "flag" rugby.
Snag, NFL players would be cheese grated on a rugby field. We don't wear all that fancy padding. It's rough, tough and selfish. Maybe we can organize a game in the DRO parking lot one day. My mum is here for a month soon. She'll be the ref...

Here is what TW speaks of.

http://youtu.be/rUSDd1xYY8A (http://youtu.be/rUSDd1xYY8A)

:o :o :o

Windknot get's it.
Here's that Beastly Saffa:
Bryan Habana - The fastest man in rugby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNFkFlISeRM#)

Dude?

Those are `185lb white guys arm tackling and accidentally running into each other. 

You can see that shit in a third rate high school football game.

No they aren't wearing helmets (well some had those retard helmets on) and pads but its because they dont need them for that daisy shit.

Put a 5 foot 10 260lb running back doing a 4.3 out there or a 6'4" 270lb linebacker and then you will see some nasty shit.

We havent even touched on the subject of  350lb offensive line men who can out run anybody on this board

American Football is a game of freaks of nature with some assistance from modern science.  They would hammer those tater eaters in the dirt.

100% agree with snag. Sorry. Tebow would be the fucking Jordan of rugby. Deangelo? They'd never even put hands on him. Absolute freaks indeed. They'd all knock my ass flat.

For Comparison


http://youtu.be/Zb5qtd725KY (http://youtu.be/Zb5qtd725KY)


Keep in mind that some of that shit was college and high school and very little if any was "illegal."


Different ball game all together.

I'm going to say it. This is pads versus no pads. I think that would be a serious game changer.

Badass video though.

Quote from: wind_knot on August 21, 2013, 20:50:31 PM
I'm going to say it. This is pads versus no pads. I think that would be a serious game changer.

Badass video though.

Thats always the argument.

Anyone who has played even at the HS level knows that pads are not (or at least before all the recent rule changes) for protection...


They (and especially the helment) are (were) weapons.

Watch the vid again with that in mind.

I know exactly what your talking about. But I still think that a lot of those spearing, helmet first, helmet to helmet hits would have never happened if they were in the same situation on a rugby field (even if the rugby players were wearing the retard helmets). 

You can't take away how hard the American football players hit though. If it wasn't a complete knock out, they are at least TKO's.

The football players played rugby they would have to lose weight.  What is there 7 minutes of action in a 3 hour football game?  Most of the time the camera is focused on people catching their breath while walking back to the huddle, the coach screaming or some pedantic face painted retard holding up the letter "D" and a section of picket fence.  If a 60 minute football game took 90 minutes or even 2 hours to play, the size of the football player would decrease and the speed of the brief flurries of action would decrease also. 

Quote from: tomato can on August 22, 2013, 05:57:22 AM
The football players played rugby they would have to lose weight.  What is there 7 minutes of action in a 3 hour football game?  Most of the time the camera is focused on people catching their breath while walking back to the huddle, the coach screaming or some pedantic face painted retard holding up the letter "D" and a section of picket fence.  If a 60 minute football game took 90 minutes or even 2 hours to play, the size of the football player would decrease and the speed of the brief flurries of action would decrease also.

And this is why God invented beer and cheerleaders

Quote from: bullship on August 21, 2013, 20:25:17 PM
Deangelo? They'd never even put hands on him.

Proper.


Oh, and I've said for a long time now, there is no better specimen with both large size and amazing athleticism than NBA basketball players.  I hate the NBA, I don't find it the least bit entertaining as a competitive sport, but I still can't deny the fact that they have guys who are 6'8" 255-lbs with quickness, agility, body control and brute strength that is as good as a combination of a gymnast and a body builder.  NFL is catching up with modern day WRs and TEs that are 6'5" 240-lbs who can run 4.3s and cut, jump, catch, and block as good as anybody on the field.  But the NBA is still tops there.  Freaks - no other way to say it.

Quote from: bullship on August 21, 2013, 20:25:17 PM
100% agree with snag. Sorry. Tebow would be the fucking Jordan of rugby. Deangelo? They'd never even put hands on him. Absolute freaks indeed. They'd all knock my ass flat.

Football, NBA, rugby players – doesn't matter!  Yes, most are fine athletes and face obvious perils from their sport.  But there is no athlete that faces more hazards than the bowler - core threats from their game - the drink, the eats, and the smoke.  Yes, bowlers are real men, true competitors.  And bowlers are also absolute freaks and no one dares to lay a hand on them.

http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/Kingpin/Great_Film_Moments/ (http://www.starpulse.com/Movies/Kingpin/Great_Film_Moments/)

You know, NOBODY has mentioned a SINGLE baseball player!! I am quite appalled actually that they have not been brought up!! They have beer guts, people on the DL for hurt pinkies, have to run a dozen feet once or twice a game and can walk around with a mouth full of chew or seeds THE ENTIRE GAME!!! How is THIS not a rugby quality??? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Trannys silence in all of this can only mean that his head has exploded from the inexplicable and all encompassing rage that most Americans reserve for the road.  We'll miss you buddy

Quote from: bullship on August 22, 2013, 08:23:41 AM
Trannys silence in all of this can only mean that his head has exploded from the inexplicable and all encompassing rage that most Americans reserve for the road.  We'll miss you buddy

He'll probably come in and try to divert the topic to big wave surfing.

Quote from: benben on August 22, 2013, 08:42:20 AM

He'll probably come in and try to divert the topic to big wave surfing.

:laugh:

Ha, just saw this now. Snag, you have lost your mind, mate. There is no running back in the league right now who is 5'10 and260lbs
Fuck, Im 5'10 and in my prime I was 224lbs and built like a brick shit house and certainly didn't have the speed of someone like a, Chris Johnson or La Vonn Bell.
This from Sport Science: "For most NFL running backs, 260 pounds would be grotesquely overweight ... Anyone that is 6'4″ and weighs more than 260lbs is overweight."
Snag, we can still play rugby in the DRO parking lot. I'll show you a few maneuvers that may help you understand the fundamentals.
Here's proof that New Zealanders are truly warriors. Jonah Lomu is was and always will be the greatest wing the rugby field has ever seen. 6'5' 265lbs. If he was a yank? I could see him being grotesquely overweight coz the food here is fucked. Steroids, hormones? C'mon, I spend hundreds of dollars at Whole Foods or Trader Joes because I like my new 190lbs my ass in in coz I decided to quit being an unhealthy dick, doesn't hurt to do crossfit and take part in running.
The Best of Jonah Lomu MUST SEE!! Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXTa7UCGlk#)
Don't get me wrong, I love NFL, or specifically, I enjoy watching running backs because like an inside center, they create explosive plays and get smashed from close range. WR's are just asking for trouble being spread so far downfield to take super charged up shots and I cannot get that image of Anquan Boldin being fuckered up in the end zone against the Jets a few years ago.

I suck as an NFL fan because I like specific players and not teams, this dude is a bad ass muthafucker and I hope to gawd he helps earn me $1000 in my fantasy league this season. Fuck Tom Brady, he is a cunt
|| Arian Foster || Highlights || HD || (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHdQ0SAL02c#ws)
That is all...no, actually fuck ALL of you :-*

Screw Arian Foster.
At UT he was mr. fumblerooski.
Now all of a sudden he is a great RB.

Here's a good Arian Foster Highlight.

http://youtu.be/7IFkfVjXtEk (http://youtu.be/7IFkfVjXtEk)

Here is the height and weight of the rookie Running Backs at the NFL combine this year.  Kind of strange that 3rd measurement is handsize.

Football vs rugby... while rugby is def badass, the size, strength and athleticism on NFL players would change the way rugby is played.  Most likely resulting in a rule change requiring helmets and pads.   Also, Tebow would dominate rugby as Bullly indicated.  Might be a good career move.


Player School Height Weight Hand Size

C.J. Anderson California 5-8 224 9.08
Montee Ball Wisconsin 5-11 214 9.08
Kenjon Barner Oregon 5-9 196 9.18
Le'Veon Bell Michigan State 6-1 230 9.58
Giovani Bernard North Carolina 5-8 202 9.38
Tommy Bohanon Wake Forest 6-1 246 10.08
Zach Boren Ohio State 5-11 238 10.08
Rex Burkhead Nebraska 5-10 214 9.68
Knile Davis Arkansas 5-10 227 8.58
Andre Ellington Clemson 5-9 199 9.38
Michael Ford LSU 5-9 210 9.08
Johnathan Franklin UCLA 5-10 205 9.38
Mike Gillislee Florida 5-11 208 9.38
Ray Graham Pittsburgh 5-9 199 9.58
D.J. Harper Boise State 5-9 211 10.28
Montel Harris Temple 5-8 208 9.38
Mike James Miami 5-10 223 9.68
Jawan Jamison Rutgers 5-7 203 8.38
Stefphon Jefferson Nevada 5-10 213 9.18
Eddie Lacy Alabama 5-11 231 9.48
Marcus Lattimore South Carolina 5-11 221 9.78
Zach Line SMU 6-0 232 8.68
Miguel Maysonet Stony Brook 5-9 209 8.48
Onterio Mccalebb Auburn 5-10 168 9.08
Christine Michael Texas A&M 5-10 220 9.38
Lonnie Pryor Florida State 5-11 227 8.38
Joseph Randle Oklahoma State 6-0 204 8.68
Theo Riddick Notre Dame 5-10 201 8.68
Robbie Rouse Fresno State 5-6 190 9.28
Zac Stacy Vanderbilt 5-8 216 8.58
Stepfan Taylor Stanford 5-9 214 8.58
Chris Thompson Florida State 5-7 192 9.28
Matthew Tucker Texas Christian 6-0 221 9.28
Spencer Ware LSU 5-10 228 9.58
Kerwynn Williams Utah State 5-8 195 9.18
Braden Wilson Kansas State 6-3 251 10.08
George Winn Cincinnati 5-10 218 9.78
Cierre Wood Notre Dame 5-11 213 8.58

Football players are a bunch of overweight out of shape slobs who need 3 + hours to play 60 minutes. 

Quote from: Transylwader on August 22, 2013, 08:56:00 AM
There is no running back in the league right now who is 5'10 and260lbs

Ok there is a 6 foot 4 one who was trying to get down to 260 from 285

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/30/brandon-jacobs-trying-to-slim-down-to-260-pounds/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/30/brandon-jacobs-trying-to-slim-down-to-260-pounds/)

Doesnt change my argument in fact I think it strengthens it.

We could play rugby in the DRO parking lot but lets do something slightly less gay and go fly fishing instead.

Quote from: snagaluffaguss on August 22, 2013, 22:08:02 PM
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We could play rugby in the DRO parking lot but lets do something slightly less gay and go fly fishing instead.

Now there is a true sport comprised of the greatest specimen of athletic prowess human kind has witnessed.

Quote from: AK Aaron on August 23, 2013, 09:04:14 AM

Quote from: snagaluffaguss on August 22, 2013, 22:08:02 PM
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We could play rugby in the DRO parking lot but lets do something slightly less gay and go fly fishing instead.

Now there is a true sport art comprised of the greatest gayest specimen of athletic creative prowess ineptitude human kind has witnessed.

Bullpucky!  There is no sport less gay than fly angling!  Wait a darned minute, I thought most of you consider fly angling an art and not a sport.   

Quote from: Mudwall Gatewood on August 23, 2013, 11:03:24 AM

Quote from: AK Aaron on August 23, 2013, 09:04:14 AM

Quote from: snagaluffaguss on August 22, 2013, 22:08:02 PM
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We could play rugby in the DRO parking lot but lets do something slightly less gay and go fly fishing instead.

Now there is a true sport art comprised of the greatest gayest specimen of athletic creative prowess ineptitude human kind has witnessed.

Bullpucky!  There is no sport less gay than fly angling!  Wait a darned minute, I thought most of you consider fly angling an art and not a sport.   

The lines are kind of faded of where sport (hunting an animal), and art (presentation of casting and creation of flies and rods) crosses. -0- -0- -0-

Quote from: snagaluffaguss on August 22, 2013, 22:08:02 PM
We could play rugby in the DRO parking lot but lets do something slightly less gay and go fly fishing instead.

Keen, but no pellyheads :-*

Quote from: Transylwader on August 26, 2013, 08:37:59 AM

Quote from: snagaluffaguss on August 22, 2013, 22:08:02 PM
We could play rugby in the DRO parking lot but lets do something slightly less gay and go fly fishing instead.

Keen, but no pellyheads :-*

:laugh:

You like hanging out at the office on your day off?

Well,

me neither.

Quote from: snagaluffaguss on August 26, 2013, 17:45:35 PM
:laugh:

You like hanging out at the office on your day off?

Well,

me neither.

Brevard needs a good strip joint.

Quote from: The Dude on August 26, 2013, 17:52:20 PM

Brevard needs a good strip joint.

Thats what I tell folks I do when they ask what I do for a regular/real job.

For those who haven't played rugby on a province/territory or national scale, and not talking the ghey rugby league crap, your comparisons with the NFL don't hold water.  Different game from gridiron all together with strategy and scrimmage rules more akin to hockey.  Played both, and BTW, personally played rugby matches against Jack Lambert while he was at Kent State - I can vouch that he altered his tackling technique when not adorned in body armor.  Unless one really knows the subject and has been bloodied, opinions are best stuffed in the creels. 

Do not subscribe to the video which started this thread - Isles is/was(?) an experiment to infuse some pace in a US 7s squad attempting to bolster its bid for an Olympic berth, and I have to agree with Transy that Habana (former Stormer/Bokke turned Froggie) is nearly as fast (speedwise) and far more skilled.  After winning gold medals the last time rugby was contested in the Olympics (Paris 1924), the US fell off the grid as professional sports took over in early 1900s.  As recently as late 1970s, rugby union retained amateur status even with national teams (team sponsors only).  When queried while a "footie" coach in Botswana and South Africa the last few years as to why the United States didn't field a competitive product, the answer was money.  Any NFL or MLB benchwarmer (and even some minor leaguers) make more cash than Brian Habana, Richie McCaw, Will Genia, Dan Carter, or any European participant.

For Transy - "Only women and American gridiron players wear pads."     

Quote from: SixBees52 on August 27, 2013, 00:13:41 AM
For those who haven't played rugby on a province/territory or national scale, and not talking the ghey rugby league crap, your comparisons with the NFL don't hold water.  Different game from gridiron all together with strategy and scrimmage rules more akin to hockey.  Played both....

When you said both, were you saying both national scale and ghey rugby league crap?  Or national scale rugby and NFL?

Quote from: The Dude on August 27, 2013, 06:00:45 AM

Quote from: SixBees52 on August 27, 2013, 00:13:41 AM
For those who haven't played rugby on a province/territory or national scale, and not talking the ghey rugby league crap, your comparisons with the NFL don't hold water.  Different game from gridiron all together with strategy and scrimmage rules more akin to hockey.  Played both....

When you said both, were you saying both national scale and ghey rugby league crap?  Or national scale rugby and NFL?

I think he meant the ghey! ;D

Sixbees is correct. That statement is Gods truth...

Okay - clarification for y'all.  League rugby (ref. greatest rugby hits on page 1 of thread) is a simplification of the Union Rules (15 aside) and is popular in northern England, Northern Ireland, and Australia.  It's more like a pad-less version of gridiron rules and lacks the continuous flow and wide-open unpredictability of "Union."  When one examines history of League, it's a possibility the NFL and modern college gridiron games evolved directly from League Rules (set number of downs, yardage to be covered, 13 aside versus 15, last down punts, and professional compensation).  These were also the rules (sans compensation - supposedly) which governed the initial Harvard-McGill and Harvard-Princeton games credited with "first" American football competition.

As to Dude's question, a ghey inference was aimed at "League" rugby and closing pad comments incorporated for Transy's enjoyment.  Would be crazy to be "inclusive" while living in SEC country even if I have no personal interest in their DI scout program for the NFL with an exception for half-hearted, sentimental root for UM-Ann Arbor at end of November.  ;D 

Union rugby generally chooses its participants/alternates through a series of trials (similar to NFL work-outs) for a couple of weeks each to determine territorial/regional (local area union) and national representation.  Individual player compensation was adopted as a norm for upper eschelon clubs and respective leagues by the International Rugby Board in 1995.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/boise-state-turns-local-rugby-team-tips-safe-160909776.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/boise-state-turns-local-rugby-team-tips-safe-160909776.html)

With that, smite away.  Je praat nou k*k.

Quote from: SixBees52 on August 27, 2013, 10:37:59 AM
with an exception for half-hearted, sentimental root for UM-Ann Arbor at end of November.  ;D 

This guy seems okay to me.  That half a sentence validates everything he says for me  ;D

Quote from: SixBees52 on August 27, 2013, 10:37:59 AM
Jy praat nou k*k.

Lekker. 'n man dat Afrikaans bliksem straal vreeslike dom donner verstaan, die res van hulle is 'n klomp tjank gatte. Vok hulle!
For those who don't understand rock spider? And you were stupid enough to use google translate? here ya go...
"Epic.  a man (Sixbees) who understands the wrath of bullshit hit by lightning Afrikaans dumb son of a bitch language. The rest of you are a bunch of cry babies. Fuck you..."

It aint FOOTBaLL unless it is SEC!!!  Go DAWGS!  Sic em.  WOOF WOOF!

Quote from: AwesomeBillFrmDawsonville on August 27, 2013, 14:13:52 PM
It aint FOOTBaLL unless it is SEC!!!  Go DAWGS!  Sic em.  WOOF WOOF!

Now you must remove the "Awesome" from your name.   b';

Quote from: Clemsontygerfan on August 27, 2013, 14:44:45 PM

Quote from: AwesomeBillFrmDawsonville on August 27, 2013, 14:13:52 PM
It aint FOOTBaLL unless it is SEC!!!  Go DAWGS!  Sic em.  WOOF WOOF!

Now you must remove the "Awesome" from your name.   b';

Yup!!!


Oh, and BBBBBB, thank you for the little intro to the differences in Rugby. Know, if you can get me thunder stand the rules, you'll be onto something.

(Only a little bit of smiteage since you defined the differences)

Quote from: wind_knot on August 27, 2013, 20:10:40 PM

Oh, and BBBBBB, thank you for the little intro to the differences in Rugby. Know, if you can get me thunder stand the rules, you'll be onto something.

(Only a little bit of smiteage since you defined the differences)

Bloody Hell - gimme an hour and a sixer of Founder's Dirty Bastards and this cigar-chompin' curmudgeon will have you prowlin' pitch sidelines sounding like a Blue Bulls scout at Craven Week.  ;D ;D

BTW, Dankie for the laugh, Transy. 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1877459-former-rugby-player-daniel-adongo-set-to-suit-up-for-colts-this-sunday?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_c3 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1877459-former-rugby-player-daniel-adongo-set-to-suit-up-for-colts-this-sunday?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_c3)