O.k., O.k., i admit it i once used a crappie jig on a fly rod when i was 12, i am sorry to all, my shame has haunted me till i can no longer live with myself, if you all wish i will break all my fly rods in repent to the fly gods for committing such blasphemy, Marty, if you want you can meet with me and start maybe a support group for fisherman who disobey the fly rod Gods. By the way has anyone ever trolled for walleye on Philpott lake, oh shit there i go again, i apologize once again, can you troll with a fly rod. Does anyone else besides me see how stupid all this has become. Flyinhigh some of these people on here can really help you as a fly fisherman, and improve the sport for you, so maybe in the future you can respect what another puts on here and use it, i mean this with utmost respect.