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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2006, 08:51:26 AM »
Welcome back!

I'm headed ot that way the 3rd week in September. Any tips and tricks to make the learnig curve shorter would be appreciated.

Flying into Bozeman and staying at the Super 8 motel in West Yellowstone for the week. I'm planning day trips to the various rivers inside and outside of the park.

Thanks in advance! ;D

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2006, 09:50:46 AM »
Norm,
Rule #1- Be sure to carry your wading staff!! The water flows are deceptive, and I scared myself a couple times wading out to cast to a trout then realizing I was in a "situation" and alone. Knee deep to thigh deep water was as strong as I could stand in one spot in most often.

Unless you're going into deep back country, don't worry about bear spray. The guide I hired for a day (and we rode right past a fresh bear bed spot in the willows next to ripe huckleberries) said it's mostly a marketing ploy- not only do they make some nice $$ at $50 each, but the tourists get a charge from the thought of danger.

A four weight is fine for most fishing, as long as you're able to cast into the stiff breeze with it. You'll have more weather in Sept.
Use a five or six weight for the evening hatch on the Madison.

If you have some 5x leaders, you'll catch fish the others miss. Bluebird days still need light leaders.
But you'll use 3x & 4x most often.

Read the water!! Don't follow what the others are doing or saying- be open-minded and read the situation. I hooked my biggest fish on the Madison by fishing the opposite of everybody else!

The rivers are about four to five times as large as those I usually fish, except the Tuck, and intimidating at first- till you realize that instead of one current seam, you're just looking at three or four staggered ones. Fish IN the stiff current. Trout there tend to hang in the current where it's almost whitecapping, NOT the quiet spots behind rocks, etc. Cast to those soft spots and watch your fly drift into the seams. A take will often look like a current splash- set the hook to be sure, and you'll often be surprised.

Fish downstream. Yep- much easier to see your fly in the heavy current- but harder to set the hook!

Fish at night (bring a hat light!) for BIG fish. And you'll have the water to yourself.

Never forget the bug spray and heavy duty sun block. Esp. use the block on the mountain lakes.

You're staying in the best of the best- and I did LOTS of exploring. Spend some time on the Gallatin in Big Sky- my favorite- and if you can, make a side trip to Ennis to fish the evening hatch on the Madison.
Better yet....lemme go with ya and I'll show you!!

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2006, 10:29:25 AM »
Beg, borrow or steal Fly Fishing Yellowstone Hatches DVD from Craig Mathews at Blue Ribbon Flies in West Yellowstone. In fact, get to that shop and pick their brains and pick up some flies. Simply the best!
Consider renting a cabin at Roosevelt Lodge in Yellowstone Park for a night or two. It'll prevent a long drive to get to the Lamarr Valley which, trust me, you MUST fish.
If you like brookies, don't be shy about pulling over at any little creek you see in the park. Seems to me the locals and tourists ain't there for small fish. That makes it all the better for brookie lovers (right Landlocked?)
Head up 287 for easy access to Raynalds Pass, 3 Dollar Bridge and more on the Madison.
If you're a glutton for punishment and/or think the fish on the South Holston are easy, hit the Henry's Fork around Wood Road or the Ralroad Ranch. Big fish who show face often but are VERY particular about what they eat and how it is presented.

You're a lucky dawg!  ;D
« Last Edit: August 01, 2006, 10:30:56 AM by Peddler »
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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2006, 12:20:50 PM »
I have that DVD on order from Blue Ribbon Flies but havent received it yet. Gonna send them an email today asking them where it is!

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2006, 13:11:53 PM »
Wow. What a trip!
A very brief summary of the Great Western Fishing Expedition:

1657 miles and one dent in the used to be brand-new rental car (Thank you FT for insisting on the insurance!!)
I left a tip under the floormat for the guy who's gonna have to detail it...
 From landing in Great Falls, MT to the Tetons through Yellowstone, I fished:

Lake Agnes (Bless you Dave & Jyl, what a way to start off the trip!)- Grayling
Lamarche Creek- Brook trout
Snake River- a fine 20" Snake River Finespot Cutthroat
Unknown Trib of the Snake- SN Finespots
Yellowstone River- Cutts
Madison River- have I got a story for you....! Rainbows & Brown
Gallatin River- Nantahala on steroids- Rainbows
Firehole- Yellowstone Cutt? or Cuttbow??
Hoback Canyon- unknown type of cutt-
Teton creek whose name escapes me (notes @ home)- cutts & whitefish
Jerome Rocks Lakes- Westslope Cutts

For a possible.....ohpleaseGod.....Cutt Slam.

I'm exhausted, beat up, scratched, banged up, limping, saddlesore (calm down FatAl),cactus-stabbed,
sleep-deprived and not sure what town I'm in....
and could not have had a better trip!
Thank you for all the input & info & warm thoughts while I was gone.
Soon as I figger out how to post pics, I'll sort one or two out of the 735 I took....!
(Filled a 1G memory card)


now that you've set the stage...ooh, the suspense...
when's a newbie no longer a newbie...

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2006, 15:07:37 PM »
Oops-
Forgot to add:
Gros Ventre River, WY
Cottonwood Creek, WY
Arizona Creek, WY
Nez Perce Creek, MT/Yellowstone

and the Lewis & Clark Motel moat/pond in Three Forks, MT.... >:D

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2006, 22:01:59 PM »
oh, now your really rubbing it in....   ;)
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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2006, 05:44:59 AM »
peddler,

got the dvd in the mail yesterday and its all that you said it is! excellent production and great fishing knowledge from some of the best in the business.

That Soda Butte creek sure does look inviting!

Thanks Damselfly for all of your help!

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2006, 07:46:56 AM »
Oops-
Forgot to add:
Gros Ventre River, WY
Cottonwood Creek, WY
Arizona Creek, WY
Nez Perce Creek, MT/Yellowstone

and the Lewis & Clark Motel moat/pond in Three Forks, MT.... >:D


here i sit in my weakened condition... and... and... dis jus aihnt rite....  :'( :'( :'(

bite me lauri  ;D

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2006, 08:50:27 AM »
Flytire,
If you are planning to fish Soda Butte and the Lamar River(good choice for the time you are going to be there), listen to Peddler and stay closer to that area.
Staying in West Yellowstone and fishing the Lamar Valley area is a killer. It's a long drive and traffic can come to a standstill as the buffalo will be migrating and blocking traffic.

Keep an eye on the reports and look at reports from same time last year.

http://www.blueribbonflies.com/index.shtml


I'm considering modifying my motel plans @ the Super 8 and to reserve a night or two at the Roosevelt Lodge Peddler suggested.

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2006, 09:35:49 AM »
Do it Norm- I stayed at the Super 8 in W.Yellowstone, and it's decent enough- not cheap
in tourist season!-, but lucked out and spent a night in a Canyon Village cabin
inside the Park and loved it! Not only was it the cheapest night of the trip @ $85, it was the nicest
and closest to critters and fishin spots.
Sept will be awesome!

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2006, 10:39:45 AM »
Do it Norm- I stayed at the Super 8 in W.Yellowstone, and it's decent enough- not cheap
in tourist season!-, but lucked out and spent a night in a Canyon Village cabin
inside the Park and loved it! Not only was it the cheapest night of the trip @ $85, it was the nicest
and closest to critters and fishin spots.
Sept will be awesome!

I get the AARP rate of $56/nite @ Super 8 and Lake Lodge cabins are about $61/nite. Being over the hill sometimes has its priviledges! :D ;D 8)
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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2006, 18:00:47 PM »
Welcome back.  Glad you had a great trip and looking forwrd for pictures and a details of exactly where you fished so I can go next year. HAHAHAHA  0--0 ;)

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Re: Wild, Wild West......I'm back!
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2006, 22:43:46 PM »
Welcome back. Sounds like a great time.

Can't wait to see the pictures.

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